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MoveOn.org: "It's Immoral"
my email | 12-2-10 | MoveOn.org

Posted on 12/02/2010 1:46:36 PM PST by FrdmLvr

Dear MoveOn member,

Two million jobless Americans are scheduled to lose their unemployment benefits between now and Christmas, because Republicans and some conservative Democrats say we can't afford to keep funding the program.1

But guess what? Most of those same members of Congress are supporting an extension of the Bush tax cuts for the rich—a $700 billion tax bailout for millionaires.

It's terrible economic policy, and just plain immoral.

That's why we're aiming to raise $200,000 today for a "Millionaire Bailout Accountability Fund"—money we'll set aside for rallies and hard-hitting ads targeted at members of Congress who vote for more millionaire tax breaks while doing nothing to help struggling families.

We want them to know NOW—before they vote—that we have the money to make them pay a steep political price at home. Can you chip in $5? Click here to donate:

*link deleted*

With your help, here's some of what we could do together:

An ad blitz in their home districts: We'll run hard-hitting ads in their districts calling them out by name for putting millionaires ahead of working families. And we'll invest in targeted research to make sure we use the most effective messages out there to really get noticed at home.

A major grassroots push: We'll organize rallies in front of their local offices with people who had their unemployment benefits cut off and other Americans who are hurting because of the economy. We'll also reach out to influential community leaders and get them to speak out against the vote and really turn up the pressure locally.

A coordinated town hall program: We'll work with progressive allies across the movement to get huge crowds of constituents out to town hall meetings to let Congress know directly how we feel. We'll work with progressive partners to make sure that members of Congress hear about this vote everywhere they go. If you chip in $5, that will help give us the resources we need to hold senators and representatives accountable for voting for a millionaire bailout while leaving regular people out in the cold. Click here to donate:

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Thanks for all you do.

–Nita, Michael, Laura, Steven, and the rest of the team

Sources:

1. "If Congress Fails to Act: Fact Sheet on the Cut-off of Federal Unemployment Benefits," National Employment Law Project, November 23, 2010 http://www.moveon.org/r?r=205351&id=25356-10389527-PUzxTgx&t=5

Want to support our work? We're entirely funded by our 5 million members—no corporate contributions, no big checks from CEOs. And our tiny staff ensures that small contributions go a long way. Chip in here.


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1 posted on 12/02/2010 1:46:36 PM PST by FrdmLvr
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To: FrdmLvr
MoveOn.org is always on the side of what is immoral.

It seems to me that if they discover something immoral, they would celebrate it not rail against it.

This is entirely out of character for them!

2 posted on 12/02/2010 1:50:12 PM PST by PATRIOT1876 (The only crimes that are 100% preventable are crimes committed by illegal aliens)
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To: FrdmLvr

If there were one honest moveon member, they would be screaming to eliminate the job killing government entitlements first. The EPA would be my first target.


3 posted on 12/02/2010 1:50:20 PM PST by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: FrdmLvr

AGITPROP==agitation and propaganda. Goes back to the founding of the Soviet Union. Pure commie BS!!!


4 posted on 12/02/2010 1:50:20 PM PST by SC_Pete
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To: FrdmLvr

If they care so much they shouldn’t have wasted a couple of trillion dollars on porkulous


5 posted on 12/02/2010 1:51:15 PM PST by Mr. K ('Profiling' you would be worse than grabbing your balls!)
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To: FrdmLvr

Liberals think cutting taxes for Americans is “immoral” but its kosher to spend billions on SRP’s that haven’t created a single permanent job.

Go figure.


6 posted on 12/02/2010 1:51:15 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: FrdmLvr

BowelMove.org.....now that is Immoral.


7 posted on 12/02/2010 1:52:43 PM PST by Vaquero ("an armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein.)
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To: FrdmLvr
RE: "Most of those same members of Congress are supporting an extension of the Bush tax cuts for the rich"

Note to MoveOn.org: I am not "rich."

If these tax cuts expire in January... believe me, I will feel it ... we'll all feel it.

So stick this in your pipe and smoke it you bleeding heart liberal fools.

8 posted on 12/02/2010 1:53:33 PM PST by Trajan88 (www.bullittclub.com)
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To: PATRIOT1876
Okay, let me get this straight.....

Giving tax dollars to people who aren't working is moral

While letting people with jobs keep their money is immoral?

The logic seems backward.

9 posted on 12/02/2010 1:53:55 PM PST by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards.com <--- My Fiction/ Science Fiction Board)
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To: FrdmLvr

If I were a Republican in congress right now, I’d introduce a bill that maintains ALL tax rates as they are today, PLUS give a 5% ACTUAL CUT to those making less that $250k a year. Then let the ‘Rats try and vote against an actual CUT for those making under $250k.


10 posted on 12/02/2010 1:54:02 PM PST by Keith in Iowa (FR Class of 1998 | TV News is an oxymoron. | MSNBC = Moonbats Spouting Nothing But Crap.)
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To: goldstategop

just lost 40,000 great paying jobs in the Gulf. Open up the Oil Shale and Gas fields in this country instead of unemployment checks. Not interest are you


11 posted on 12/02/2010 1:54:15 PM PST by scooby321
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To: FrdmLvr
tax bailout for millionaires

It's not a bailout, it's their money.
12 posted on 12/02/2010 1:54:55 PM PST by advance_copy (Stand for life or nothing at all)
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To: FrdmLvr

One cannot be a Democrat let alone a member of MoveOn.org without being immoral or willingly ignorant. The first is at least not a hypocrite, the second is impervious to reason and their life only works if they have someone else to blame.


13 posted on 12/02/2010 1:55:28 PM PST by kimoajax (Rack'em & Stack'em)
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To: FrdmLvr
Moveon.org is obviously not in sympathy with EVEN MORE MILLIONS of highschool and college graduates who have found NO JOBS WHATSOEVER for the last couple of years, or if they did find jobs, they were part time, underpaid, and totally unrelated to anything they were qualified to do.

America's unemployed millions are being treated differently depending on their prior employment history ~ and the year in which they were born.

I would imagine the Moveon.org people believe they can mount demonstrations with thousands of unemployed youth ~ but that's only if they pay them.

By now the youth have figured out they don't get unemployment compensation ~ and by living at home in mom's basement, they don't get welfare either!

The Leftwingtards and the Democrats seem incapable of understanding that it's all about jobs.

I predict that if they keep this up they'll be out of power like the Republicans after Hoover!

14 posted on 12/02/2010 1:55:42 PM PST by muawiyah (GIT OUT THE WAY ~ REPUBLICANS COMIN' THROUGH)
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To: SC_Pete
Under their guy's watch, we lend (give away) trillions to Europe, Banks, Huge corporations and , of course, those few select Wall St. firms.

While that's all great with Move On, allowing rich people (Rich = anyone over $250,000 as per their definition) to keep more of their own money, perhaps to create more jobs(?) is immoral.

Keith Olbermann currently makes something around $7 Million a year. Since he is one of the leaders of the Democrat Party, why doesn't he give $6,750,000.00 to the US Treasury each year, in order to set the example. That would still leave him “rich”.

15 posted on 12/02/2010 2:02:07 PM PST by Rational Thought
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To: FrdmLvr

I think the millionaires can out raise ‘em....they’ll simple say, “I call your $200,000 and raise by $200,00.”


16 posted on 12/02/2010 2:03:10 PM PST by illiac (If we don't change directions soon, we'll get where we're going)
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To: muawiyah

To some liberals, taxing the “rich” seems to be a personal vendetta without reason.

I guess I just don’t see how one could feel some sort of accomplishment or their life being made meaningfully whole by virtue of raising taxes on someone else.


17 posted on 12/02/2010 2:06:13 PM PST by digger48
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To: PATRIOT1876

Not all certainly, but, many of these people on unemployment are staying on it as long as possible. I know one of them. He says he gets more unemployment then he would get going back to work. That’s what we are paying for. They need to go back to the 6months with extensions. And as time goes by they need to give them less and less money. If it’s going hungry or working at mcd’s, you can bet many would do the latter.


18 posted on 12/02/2010 2:07:32 PM PST by MsLady (If you died tonight, where would you go? Salvation, don't leave earth without it!)
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To: cripplecreek

EPA, TSA, IRS, Homeland Security, that’s where we need to start. Never like Homeland Security anyway. I knew Bush would not abuse it, but, the potential for some serious abuse is def there.


19 posted on 12/02/2010 2:09:48 PM PST by MsLady (If you died tonight, where would you go? Salvation, don't leave earth without it!)
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To: FrdmLvr

Blocking the unemployment benefits was the wrong battle at the wrong time..
This is why the GOP is called the Stupid party.

People are going to remember that as the first thing the GOP did after the election. And it’s going to hurt us in 2012.


20 posted on 12/02/2010 2:09:59 PM PST by DannyTN
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To: Rational Thought

And if they don’t get their way, they will take it to the streets. These commies foment revolution everyday in every meeting, then accuse us of doing what THEY ARE doing!

I am really fed up with these RAT bastards.


21 posted on 12/02/2010 2:16:52 PM PST by SC_Pete
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To: digger48

The Leftwingtards or predominantly sadistic types. There’s a good chance they are also reincarnated Nazi prison guards.


22 posted on 12/02/2010 2:21:16 PM PST by muawiyah (GIT OUT THE WAY ~ REPUBLICANS COMIN' THROUGH)
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To: GeronL
Giving tax dollars to people who aren't working is moral

While letting people with jobs keep their money is immoral?


Goes even two steps further. MoveOn is FOR extending unemployment benefits, which provide money to 600,000 not 2,000,000. But they are AGAINST extending the tax cuts, which, if allowed to expire, will probably end up causing even more unemployment AND put many more Americans on food stamps.

People are just scraping by as it is with the current economy. You raise rates on those that are just making it by 4% and you will harm many, many Americans!!!
23 posted on 12/02/2010 2:22:53 PM PST by Eagle of Liberty (formally known as Kerretarded....I changed my name)
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To: FrdmLvr

How do people who claim that truth is relative determine if something is immoral?


24 posted on 12/02/2010 2:23:56 PM PST by FourPeas (From the same mouth come blessing and cursing. My brothers, these things ought not to be so. Ja 3:10)
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To: SC_Pete
And if they don’t get their way, they will take it to the streets. These commies foment revolution everyday in every meeting, then accuse us of doing what THEY ARE doing!

They ruin this economy and then completely in sync, they cry out that the GOP is holding America hostage!!!

Nobody out there learned anything after November. I strongly believe that we are being pushed as far as possible to see how much we will take before armed revolution.
25 posted on 12/02/2010 2:24:56 PM PST by Eagle of Liberty (formally known as Kerretarded....I changed my name)
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To: FrdmLvr

I know at least two people who are thrilled to keep collecting unemployment, and are just doing the minimum to pretend like they’re looking for work. 0bama voters, of course.


26 posted on 12/02/2010 2:26:45 PM PST by Joann37
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To: FrdmLvr

GetPastIt.Org ITS NOT YOUR MONEY STFU
No one wants to hear from you and your communist agenda anymore. This is America. PTFO. Bye.


27 posted on 12/02/2010 2:28:45 PM PST by SECURE AMERICA
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To: FrdmLvr
"That's why we're aiming to raise $200,000 today for a "Millionaire Bailout Accountability Fund"—money we'll set aside for rallies and hard-hitting ads targeted at members of Congress who vote for more millionaire tax breaks while doing nothing to help struggling families."

It's my absolute belief that raising taxes on the rich at this stage in the economy will cause a depression, and therefore hurt struggling families far, far worse.

Keeping ALL the Bush tax cuts helps the economy, therefore helping struggling families.

28 posted on 12/02/2010 2:42:23 PM PST by Alas Babylon! (Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must-like men-undergo the fatigue of supporting it)
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To: Eagle of Liberty

We must make it clear to our elected representatives that we are DEAD serious about rolling back the communist policies of this administration. Paul Ryan seems to be one of the very few who get it. We need to SCREAM at these BOZOS until they hear us.


29 posted on 12/02/2010 2:53:49 PM PST by SC_Pete
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To: FrdmLvr

These people would complain if they were hung with a new rope.


30 posted on 12/02/2010 3:37:47 PM PST by Bean Counter (Stout Hearts!!)
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To: MsLady
I think most people need the unemployment checks during a time when the official statistic is 10%.
When I was out of work for 3 or 4 months I really needed it! I would spend about six hours a day looking. It's more exhausting than actually working.

It only received about a third or half of what I was making.
It was really hard to come up with the rent and money for gas to go on interviews.
It was very difficult to find anything.
10% unemployment is VERY high.
So, I sympathize with the unemployed. Many people who never have been think it's easy to get a job. Some people are good workers, but no so skilled in getting a new job.

Add to that the fact that the official state figure of 10% is actually lower than what it really is.
They don't count people who never got unemployment or who it has run out for them.

That being said, certainly there are some that aren't looking. There are scammers everywhere. People on Warfare for their lifetimes proves that. Occasionally I even run onto workers that don't pull their weight.

We could save a lot of money by tossing out the dead weight of illegal aliens receiving ANY kind of assistance.

We would gain a lot of jobs and wages would go up through supply and demand.

10 to 30 million unemployed.
10 to 30 million illegals.

Seems like a win-win to get rid of all the illegal aliens and we'd hardly have to talk about legal Americans getting unemployment at all.

31 posted on 12/02/2010 3:39:27 PM PST by PATRIOT1876 (The only crimes that are 100% preventable are crimes committed by illegal aliens)
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To: PATRIOT1876

Ok, I do sympathize with the unemployed our state is probably 17% unemployment but, 99 weeks and they want to extend that? I was out of work during the Carter years. I got unemployment for 6 months, I think that was it. You might have been able to extend that a couple of months back then, just can’t remember. I didn’t eat half the time. It was truly bad.


32 posted on 12/02/2010 4:18:29 PM PST by MsLady (If you died tonight, where would you go? Salvation, don't leave earth without it!)
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To: SC_Pete

We need to SCREAM at these BOZOS until they hear us.

oh they hear us all right, they just don’t get it. They assume that redistribution of someone elses income to those who are unwilling to go to work and make a living is the right way to go. The unemployment payments have now been extended for almost 2 years....why would I take a job for $500.00 a week when I can get a check for $350.00 per week from unemployment......and I can tend bar for my buddy, off the books, for $300.00 per week????? If you think that all of the “unemployed” are really without work, you are terribly naive. Watch how quickly the unemployment rate goes down once the benefits are ended, it will amaze you.


33 posted on 12/02/2010 4:24:38 PM PST by terycarl (interested and informed)
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To: Alas Babylon!
It's my absolute belief that raising taxes on the rich at this stage in the economy will cause a depression, and therefore hurt struggling families far, far worse.

And from Ms. Pelosi - "Tax cuts for the rich do not create jobs...."

Pelosi Remarks at Press Conference Today on Unemployment Insurance

Pelosi: Unemployment Checks Create Jobs--Tax Cuts To Rich Do Not!
34 posted on 12/03/2010 5:21:15 AM PST by Eagle of Liberty (formally known as Kerretarded....I changed my name)
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To: PATRIOT1876
I think most people need the unemployment checks during a time when the official statistic is 10%.

That's fine. I would "compromise" here and give the unemployment extensions if they would extend ALL of the current tax rates. But Pelosi and her gang do not want that compromise and at some point the unemployed need to ask other questions such as why does the Obama Adm seem hell bent on causing harm to the small business sector of this country.
35 posted on 12/03/2010 5:57:29 AM PST by Eagle of Liberty (formally known as Kerretarded....I changed my name)
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