Skip to comments.Oh my: Scott Brown and Susan Collins to vote yes on repealing DADT (With this, we have 60)
Posted on 12/03/2010 5:27:47 PM PST by SeekAndFind
That makes 60 votes for cloture, assuming Reid can keep the entire Democratic caucus in line. I’m not aware of any defectors yet but Tester, McCaskill, Ben Nelson and a few other red-state Dems who are up in 2012 will be thinking awfully hard about this vote, needless to say.
Two big qualifiers, though. Collins, at least, is sticking by the GOP’s plan to vote no on everything until a deal is reached on the Bush tax cuts. Brown’s statement doesn’t address the subject, but since he also signed the Republican pledge to make the tax cuts top priority, presumably he’s on the same page. Until something happens on taxes, then, this is all meaningless. Which brings us to the second qualifier: Will there be any time left in the lame duck to address DADT even after a deal on taxes is reached? Durbin announced just within the past hour or so that he expects they’ll bring the DREAM Act to the floor next week. (Gird your loins.) GOP opposition to the START treaty has been softening too, so no doubt Reid’s going to try to take advantage by adding that to the calendar. Between tax cuts, DREAM, and START, will there be any time to take up DADT? If not, and given the fact that DREAM has much less of a chance of passing than the DADT repeal does, doesn’t that mean that Democrats will have completely sold out their last, best chance at achieving a key goal of their gay base for nothing more than a token gesture to Latinos? Rush should talk that up next week. Operation Chaos II!
In the interest of equal time after last night’s post, here’s vid of Marine Corps Commandant Gen. James Amos politely disagreeing with Gates and Mullen about repealing DADT right now. Emphasis on “right now”: He accepts repeal as a fait accompli, he just wants it on hold until the services aren’t under the strain of combat. (See Levin’s response to that.) The heads of the Army and Air Force agree with him, in fact; the only service branch head who favors immediate repeal of DADT is, er, the Navy’s. Exit question: Isn’t the real debate here whether DADT will be lifted by Congress or the courts, not whether it’ll be lifted at all? The Pentagon sure seems to think so.
>I cant wait to hear another so-called conservative remind me to ignore social issues, because fiscal matters are the only ones that matter.<
Looks like Scott forgot this lesson...
Mass. Republican Party Chairman says party will no longer oppose same-sex “marriage”, abortion, other “social issues”
Mass. Republicans lose ALL statewide & Congressional races
I hope you didn’t unpack yet,RINO!
We really had no conservative alternative.
If you are voting in a primary within a liberal stronghold, you support the conservative. When the RINO wins the primary, you consider supporting the RINO.
Remember: The only reason we supported Scott Brown was that he did oppose 0bamaCare. Expecting anything more from a Republican from Mass. is unreasonable.
David fought many battles following God’s lead. What does God want us to do for our military? How do we fight for them in Washington while they fight for us in other countries? Do we call the Senate? Will they listen?
Not to mention the fact that the left for decades has deliberately intertwined fiscal spending with social issues so that you can’t attack one without attacking the other. “It’s for the children” is just one example of the intertwining. “Social justice” is another.
Any spending you want to attack has a social aspect to it. They designed it that way.
And the truck you rode in on.
Send an invoice.
So little time on the Hill and so out of touch already.
Brown served his purpose. He gave us hope and that hope turned into hard work which turned into many victories.
No matter what he does he will be defeated in 2012. We are still much better off for his victory, but his state is hopelessly liberal and that is that.
“God and the soldier,All men adore, In time of trouble,Then-no more. For when the fighting is over. and all things are righted. GOD is forgotten. and the soldier is slighted.”
I didn’t write it but find it as true and as relevant today
with this corrupt and evil Congress and enemy in the white house.
Some one in the USAF crunched the numbers and a low SWAG suggests it will cost anywhere from 40-to 50 Million to
begin to “change” our Military to protect the gays.That sounds like it could buy a lot of beans and bullets-a better project
for these fiscal conservatives who want us to ignore the moral
I still send Senators Udall, and Bennett of Colorado daily updates proving how evil and harmful it will be if America tolerates the repeal of DADT proving Congress in Lame Duck
democratic Party control REFUSES to listen to the men and women in uniform-including Gen.Amos of the USMC— and the
sometimes squishy Mr. Casey of the US Army.(Casey does need to have his spine stiffed sometimes.)
They will not listen— but that in no way affects the command
to speak for those who cannot.
Well, here is a start (how can you contact a senator when you are not in their district?):
FULL COMMITTEE MEMBERS (Armed Services Committee)
John McCain (Arizona)
James M. Inhofe (Oklahoma)
Jeff Sessions (Alabama)
Saxby Chambliss (Georgia)
Lindsey Graham (South Carolina)
John Thune (South Dakota)
Roger F. Wicker (Mississippi)
George S. LeMieux (Florida)
Scott Brown (Massachusetts)
Richard Burr (North Carolina)
David Vitter (Louisiana)
Susan M. Collins (Maine)
Carl Levin (Michigan)
Joseph I. Lieberman (Connecticut)
Jack Reed (Rhode Island)
Daniel K. Akaka (Hawaii)
Bill Nelson (Florida)
Ben Nelson (Nebraska)
Evan Bayh (Indiana)
Jim Webb (Virginia)
Claire McCaskill (Missouri)
Mark Udall (Colorado)
Kay R. Hagan (North Carolina)
Mark Begich (Alaska)
Jeff Bingaman (New Mexico)
Joe Manchin III (West Virginia)
Christopher A. Coons (Delaware)
We are admonished, huldah1776, to pray for those in authority over us, for who knows, the Lord might yet draw the wicked into a saving knowledge of the Lord Jesus Christ. Surround our military with the hedge of protection in Psalm 91; take heart in Psalm 37 that the wicked will be vanquished; live in Proverbs 3:5-6 ~ “Trust in the Lord with all your heart, and lean not to your own understanding; in all your ways acknowledge him, and he will direct your paths.”
2 PETER 3
8 But do not forget this one thing, dear friends: With the Lord a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day. 9 The Lord is not slow in keeping his promise, as some understand slowness. He is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance.
1 TIMOTHY 2:1-7
1 I urge, then, first of all, that requests, prayers, intercession and thanksgiving be made for everyone 2 for kings and all those in authority, that we may live peaceful and quiet lives in all godliness and holiness. 3 This is good, and pleases God our Savior, 4 who wants all men to be saved and to come to a knowledge of the truth. 5 For there is one God and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus, 6 who gave himself as a ransom for all menthe testimony given in its proper time. 7 And for this purpose I was appointed a herald and an apostleI am telling the truth, I am not lyingand a teacher of the true faith to the Gentiles.
27 All the ends of the earth
will remember and turn to the LORD,
and all the families of the nations
will bow down before him,
28 for dominion belongs to the LORD
and he rules over the nations.
2 CHRONICLES 7
14 If my people, who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then will I hear from heaven and will forgive their sin and will heal their land. Amen ...
Remember when multiple Freepers wanted this creep to run for President after being elected last year?