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Who's the ding dong now, Avon? (Avon & Canada Oil sands)
Calgary Herald ^ | 12/3/2010 | Calgary Herald

Posted on 12/05/2010 5:39:37 AM PST by listenhillary

Looking good is what Avon is all about, so it's not surprising that a cosmetics giant with annual revenues of $10 billion is concerned about its image. That, after all, is the motive behind Avon's boycott of fuel derived from Alberta's oil sands -- looking good. Never mind that oil banned from Alberta -- the most regulated and transparently sourced oil on the planet -- will have to be replaced by oil from some despotic regime but, hey, maybe you can put lipstick on a pig.

"Avon recognizes its responsibility to the environment and the world's forests," said Tod Abreast, Avon's vice-president of sustainability and corporate responsibility. Gosh, you'd think that Avon CEO Andrea Jung is sitting around in her high heels, jumbo pearls and scarlet lipstick singing Kumbaya as she pulls down her $9 million pay package,

Avon, along with retailer LUSH and Canadian trucking company Concord Transportation, are the latest to join San Francisco-based Forest Ethics' misguided boycott of oilsandsderived fuel. "Canada's tarsands are an unethical source of fuel for shipping LUSH products," explained Shama Alexander, LUSH's environmental officer. If Alexander really wants to talk ethics, we recommend the book Ethical Oil -- the Case for Canada's Oilsands, by Ezra Levant.

Big Beauty taking on Big Oil is a delicious thing to watch. Avon, one of several companies accused of "pinkwashing" by Stacy Malkan in her book Not Just a Pretty Face: The Ugly Side of the Beauty Industry, has more than 5.5 million independent sales representatives driving around ( "Ding, dong. Avon calling!").

We wonder how they feel about the counter-boycott of Avon Products being urged by the Alberta Enterprise Group, just in time for Christmas.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Canada; Culture/Society; Extended News
KEYWORDS: alberta; avon; drilling; energy; energyindependence; oil; oilsands; skincare
My mother is in Avon. Wonder if she knows they are doing this?
1 posted on 12/05/2010 5:39:38 AM PST by listenhillary
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To: listenhillary

This is what happens when you give liberals power.


2 posted on 12/05/2010 5:44:37 AM PST by Brilliant
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To: Brilliant

How many liberals use make up vs conservative women?


3 posted on 12/05/2010 5:46:32 AM PST by listenhillary (A very simple fix to our dilemma - We need to reward the makers instead of the takers)
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To: listenhillary
"Avon recognizes its responsibility to the environment and the world's forests," said Tod Abreast, Avon's vice-president of sustainability and corporate responsibility.

Based on his name, Tod has probably been riding side-saddle since he came of age.

4 posted on 12/05/2010 5:52:52 AM PST by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

I saw that and laughed.


5 posted on 12/05/2010 5:54:14 AM PST by listenhillary (A very simple fix to our dilemma - We need to reward the makers instead of the takers)
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

If they cared about the worlds forests, maybe they would like to know that forest growth would be reduced by 20% if we cut CO2 to preindustrial levels.


6 posted on 12/05/2010 5:56:18 AM PST by listenhillary (A very simple fix to our dilemma - We need to reward the makers instead of the takers)
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To: listenhillary

On a veil of transparent fabrications, feeble rationalizations, omissions and even outright lies, lots of different personal care products companies, including Avon, have been selling unhealthy, even dangerous substances have for skin care, including these:

MINERAL OIL — What is it? Nothing more than filtered 10-weight motor oil, it’s the most commonly-used base for skin care and cosmetics.* A heavy hydrocarbon derived from petroleum, it cannot be absorbed by the body. Said to “seal” the skin (as if that were a benefit!), it’s actually “comedogenic” (it clogs pores, attracts dirt, and causes blackheads and eruptions). It constipates the skin’s elimination process, hinders its healing, and hastens its aging. It hardens the outer keratin layer and repels water, making exfoliation difficult and real moisturization impossible. It may also choke sebum gland pro-duction, causing an ever-worsening dry skin condition in some areas. This sets up the vicious cycle where the user thinks more and more greasy oils are needed. Motor oil belongs in cars, not skin.
*The manufacturers pay 99¢ a quart for this and have you pay as much as $540.00 a quart ! .

PETROLATUM — Axle Grease. This is another comedogenic filler that suffocates the skin and strangles its numerous functions, including controlling temperature. Skin needs to breathe, not fry.

PARAFFIN — Petroleum wax. Used in many creams and cosmetics, it is yet another non-absorbed skin-clogger that impedes health and accelerates aging. Wax belongs on floors, not skin.


7 posted on 12/05/2010 6:04:13 AM PST by FreeKeys ("Here we are in this lame duck session quacking around..." John McLame to Greta van Susteren 12-1-10)
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To: FreeKeys

BUT...........the oil they use it’s is good oil from Nigeria!


8 posted on 12/05/2010 6:07:34 AM PST by Recon Dad ( "Don't forget, incoming fire has the right of way")
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To: Brilliant
This is what happens when you give liberals power.

It's putting miseducated people without character or the ability to think independently in charge of making economic decisions and making them largely immune to the consequences of their actions.

9 posted on 12/05/2010 6:08:37 AM PST by Tribune7 (The Democrat Party is not a political organization but a religious cult.)
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To: FreeKeys

I used to have a boss who wore a lot of makeup. It was hard to look away from all of the goo being pushed up out of her pores on her nose. Little tiny leaning towers of goo.


10 posted on 12/05/2010 6:10:07 AM PST by listenhillary (A very simple fix to our dilemma - We need to reward the makers instead of the takers)
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To: listenhillary
Little tiny leaning towers of goo.

Eeeeuuuwww!

11 posted on 12/05/2010 6:13:18 AM PST by FreeKeys ("It certainly takes a lot of brass to keep repeating fallacies that were refuted long ago." -TSowell)
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To: listenhillary

Almost forgot —

ISOPROPYL ALCOHOL — Although a few alcohols are safe and mild, the isopropyl is one of the penetrating and poisonous ones often used in attempts to dissolve some of the “grayish waxy buildup” of petroleum in the skin. Anything harsh enough for that also dissolves the skin’s natural moisturizers, destroys its pH balance, and leaves it vulnerable to infection. It often stimulates some sebum oil glands to overproduce, resulting in chronic oily skin in those areas, and setting up yet another vicious cycle where the user thinks more and more isopropyl or other harsh astringents are needed. Isopropyl alcohol is derived from petroleum. It is used in antifreeze and shellac.


12 posted on 12/05/2010 6:39:35 AM PST by FreeKeys (Wealth "spreading" control freaks are STUPID! Their policies CAUSE shrinking economies!)
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To: listenhillary

Tell her about Mary Kay - it’s based in Texas.


13 posted on 12/05/2010 6:53:36 AM PST by PAR35
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To: listenhillary
If they cared about the worlds forests, maybe they would like to know that forest growth would be reduced by 20% if we cut CO2 to preindustrial levels.

Precisely. I thought everyone knew that it's CO2 that plants use to make food, not only for themselves, but all the animal species in the world as well. But the idiots are constrained to show their environmental bona fides, even if it's at the expense of looking and behaving like fools.

14 posted on 12/05/2010 6:54:47 AM PST by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: listenhillary

Once refined into gasoline, the stuff is essentially fungible and I am not sure it is even possible to boycott to know the ultimate source of the crude from which that gallon came. Or even if there is a single source, identifiable or not.

This sounds like a typical liberal brain fart.


15 posted on 12/05/2010 6:55:37 AM PST by John Valentine
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To: listenhillary

Tell her conservatives are organizing a boycott of Avon, and she ought to see if she can sign up with May Kay.

I think it is fair to point out that it will be much easier to organize a boycott of Avon than to organize a boycott of a product that you can’t even tell where it came from.


16 posted on 12/05/2010 6:58:20 AM PST by John Valentine
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To: listenhillary
Never mind that oil banned from Alberta -- the most regulated and transparently sourced oil on the planet -- will have to be replaced by oil from some despotic regime but, hey, maybe you can put lipstick on a pig.

Fungible

17 posted on 12/05/2010 6:58:55 AM PST by SunTzuWu
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To: listenhillary
Looking good is what Avon is all about...cosmetics giant with annual revenues of $10 billion...

You mean people, REAL people actually use that crap?

I thought it was something that homeless drunkards strained through their socks and drank for a cheap high.

With the overwhelming alcohol smell of the crap, I would think that it was based on a product from a distillery, rather than an oil refinery.

Really nasty stuff, in my opinion.

Of course, I may have a slight bias, based upon several of my aged aunts and other dowager-type relatives that bought the stuff by the gallon and poured it on for any occasion.

Whew!

18 posted on 12/05/2010 7:10:42 AM PST by OldSmaj (I am an avowed enemy of islam and Obama is a damned fool and traitor. Questions?)
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To: listenhillary

This idiot at Avon clearly doesn’t understand that if all the commodities, oil is one of the most fungible.


19 posted on 12/05/2010 7:20:44 AM PST by FreedomPoster (No Representation without Taxation!)
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To: John Valentine; listenhillary
Tell her conservatives are organizing a boycott of Avon, and she ought to see if she can sign up with May Kay.

NO! DON'T do that. Mary Kay uses even more mineral oil and isopropyl than Avon, if that's even possible! And beeswax too, which is EVEN WORSE!! Tell her to sign up with NuSkin (which gave us the great conservative congressman Jason Chaffetz), the only direct sales company that pays attention to what ingredients are good for you.

20 posted on 12/05/2010 7:21:26 AM PST by FreeKeys (WHO wants to invest where their profits are likely to be taken away?)
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To: FreeKeys

Isopropyl alcohol is used as rubbing alcohol.


21 posted on 12/05/2010 7:34:57 AM PST by Ben Ficklin
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To: listenhillary

My wife is also in Avon. We live in Calgary, so this would affect her business if people boycott.

I don’t know what’s true but I do know she got an email from Avon saying that there’s no boycott against the oil sands and saying it was the media who had spun it that way or some such thing.

With my complete lack of trust in the media, and having skimmed the email from Avon, I’m willing to cut the company some slack until I learn more. After all, it isn’t as if the media would lie, is it? (Do I need a sarc tag?)

cheers
Jim


22 posted on 12/05/2010 7:44:02 AM PST by gymbeau (Free Tibet! (Limit two per customer))
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To: gymbeau

http://forestethics.org/major-companies-act-to-clean-up-their-transportation-footprints

Walgreens1 has clearly decided to eliminate Canada’s Tar Sands from its transportation footprint.
Whole Foods2 has committed to the elimination where possible of its use of fuels produced by refineries that use feedstock from Canada’s Tar Sands.

Actions by Gap Inc.3, Levi Strauss & Co.4, Timberland5 and FedEx6 are not specifically focused on Canada’s Tar Sands, but they are relevant because fuels from Tar Sands are higher in carbon and other environmental and social impacts than conventional fuels. And each of these companies has said, in its own way, that it wants to reduce the environmental and social impacts of transporting products.
Bed Bath & Beyond7 asked all transportation providers to avoid fuels that would counter Bed Bath & Beyond’s goal of reducing its carbon emissions.

Avon has asked its transportation providers to avoid high impact fuels such as those from the Tar Sands.

LUSH Fresh Handmade Cosmetics8 has required its transportation providers to avoid fuel from US refineries connected to Canada’s Tar Sands.9
The City of Bellingham10 (one of two US gateway cities for Canada’s Tar Sands) also has a goal of reducing environmental and social impacts – including carbon emissions – so it adopted new guidelines that require minimizing its fuel purchasing from refineries taking feed stock from Canada’s Tar Sands.

We look forward to speaking with more companies and cities about their consumption of high impact fuels such as those from Canada’s Tar Sands. We are confident that more big buyers of transporation services and fuel – in their own way – will follow the leadership examples of Walgreens, Whole Foods, Gap Inc., Levi Strauss & Co., Timberland, Bed Bath & Beyond, FedEx, Avon, LUSH Fresh Handmade Cosmetics, and the City of Bellingham


23 posted on 12/05/2010 8:40:58 AM PST by listenhillary (A very simple fix to our dilemma - We need to reward the makers instead of the takers)
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To: listenhillary

Thanks for that.
Just goes to show it can be hard to believe any source these days, especially those with a vested interest. (I always thought a vested interest was someone who owned shares in a men’s wear company!)
Wish I had that Avon email to my wife handy so I could post it and add further to the confusion.
cheers
Jim


24 posted on 12/05/2010 9:26:56 AM PST by gymbeau (Free Tibet! (Limit two per customer))
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To: listenhillary
To the Avon pinheads, RE: oil. look up the word "fungible".

CC

25 posted on 12/05/2010 10:43:55 AM PST by Celtic Conservative (Good heavens Miss Takamoto, You're beautiful!)
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To: Celtic Conservative
To the Avon pinheads, RE: oil. look up the word "fungible".

They are worse pinheads than one would suppose. The end product of petroleum refining is coke; a marketable product with many uses. Petroleum coke is 99% pure carbon! So the 'higher levels of carbon' in the Alberta tar sands produces more coke; so what! It is cheaper than and generally safer than coal!

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Petroleum coke and the coal industry:

Petroleum coke has made significant inroads into the steam coal industry over the last few years and will continue to do so for a variety of reasons. Chief among them is that petcoke can serve as an excellent, inexpensive product to blend with coal in traditional coal fired boilers, and, in some newer boilers, can even replace coal entirely .

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Petroleum Coke Glossary

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Interesting article about a PETCOKE fired 600MW generating plant.

"...The key design strategy for Madison Unit 3 was fuel flexibility; the plant was not to be forever dependent on a single fuel, as with past plant designs. A fuel sourcing study found that petroleum coke, a solid residue by-product of the crude oil refining processes, is abundant and readily available in the Gulf Coast region, so it became the chosen fuel because of its quality, relative inexpensiveness, and plentiful supply.

Petcoke may be literally the “the bottom of the barrel” of the refining process, but it is a residue that is high in carbon content and low in hydrogen. Also, petcoke is almost free of ash—a definite advantage over western coals and lignite, which can contain more than 12% ash...."

Cleco’s Madison Unit 3 Uses CFB Technology to Burn Petcoke and Balance the Fleet’s Fuel Portfolio

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So these morons are wringing their hands and whining about NOTHING! The carbon is removed during the refining process and put to other uses. Duh!

26 posted on 12/05/2010 1:28:45 PM PST by Islander7 (If you want to anger conservatives, lie to them. If you want to anger liberals, tell them the truth.)
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