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US Navy Captain Holly A. Graf (Sea HAG) Keeps Rank, To Be Retired As Captain. Good Riddance!
Military Corruption Dot Com ^ | 12-06-2010 | Major Glenn MacDonald US Army (ret.)

Posted on 12/05/2010 7:24:54 PM PST by Tea Party Reveler

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THE "FEMALE CAPTAIN BLIGH" ESCAPES JUSTICE HORRIBLE HOLLY GRAF TO BE RETIRED IN-GRADE GETS GENERAL DISCHARGE BUT NO PUNISHMENT FOR EGREGIOUS CONDUCT - STAYS A CAPTAIN BUT AT LEAST WILL NEVER BE ADMIRAL - BOARD OF INQUIRY SPLIT ON VOTE 2-TO-1. ONE FEMALE ADMIRAL ON THREE-MEMBER PANEL - CREW OF COWPENS CONTACTS MILITARYCORRUPTION.COM CALLS GRAF SLUR "WORST SHIP ON WATERFRONT" A FLAT-OUT LIE - "WE WERE BEST, DESPITE HER."

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The verdict is in, and Horrible Holly Graf has escaped justice. She will be retired in her present grade, despite a laundry list of offenses that would have cost a male captain his stripes months ago. Once again, the "double-standard" of justice has reared it's ugly head.

The "female Captain Bligh" is being retired with a general discharge. Even the PC-hobbled Navy couldn't put lipstick on that pig - to let her go out with a HONORABLE discharge - when she wreaked such havoc and broke so many regulations. If there is any solace in this at all, the most hated woman in the Navy will never be an admiral like "big sister," Robin Graf.

It is obvious that if a male captain had say, grabbed a female subordinate officer by the neck (physical assault, by any definition) and thrown hard objects at crew-members' heads, that person would have been put in a straight-jacket and kicked out of the service.

BOARD FAILS TO SEND MESSAGE GRAF'S CONDUCT SHOULD HAVE RESULTED IN LOSS OF RANK

We had hoped, with a Board of Inquiry consisting of three non-USNA grads, perhaps Graf would lose at least one stripe and the Navy would "send a message" to the Fleet that what she did will not be tolerated. But the BOI copped out. The vote was 2-to-1 that Graf committed misconduct. That means one member of the board incredibly could sit there and witness overwhelming evidence to the contrary and still, apparently, vote her gender.

At least it was a unanimous vote that the shrill screamer "committed conduct unbecoming an officer" for the "maltreatment and cruelty" shown to her crew as commanding officer of the cruiser, USS Cowpens. She was relieved of command of her ship earlier this year.

We have received messages from the COWPENS denouncing Graf's slur that the ship was "worst on the waterfront" and that she had whipped them into shape as "best in the Pacific."

"What she said was a flat-out lie," complained a longtime member of the crew. "We had passed all inspections with flying colors prior to her coming aboard, and still maintained our excellence, despite her reign of terror as captain."

The odd strategy of blaming her ship and crew for Graf's own troubles, paid off for "slash-and-burn" military defense attorney Charles Gittins. He is the biggest winner in all this, as anyone other than Graf would have lost one or two stripes and been kicked out of the Navy. He was able to salvage Graf's pension and retirement in-grade.

The findings come at the end of three days of testimony, in which the best witness for Graf the defense team could muster was the top female Navy chaplain who said Graf was "the most dedicated" officer she had ever seen in Naval service. We think she should have said "cruelest" or "craziest." That would have been more accurate.

Shame on the mainstream media, who avoided covering this embarrassment to feminism and "political correctness" like the plague.

Now, the findings, announced by Adm. Mark Buzby, will be forwarded to Navy Secretary Ray Mabus, who is expected to rubber stamp them without comment.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: captainhollyagraf; captainqueef; usnavy; usscowpens
Different spanks for different ranks, special rules for special people. Lots of male skippers get canned for far less but Holly the Sea Hag is special.
1 posted on 12/05/2010 7:25:00 PM PST by Tea Party Reveler
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To: Tea Party Reveler

Women should stay at home.


2 posted on 12/05/2010 7:29:54 PM PST by Benchim
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To: Tea Party Reveler

If nothing else her sister is an admiral. No doubt that’s part of it.


3 posted on 12/05/2010 7:30:21 PM PST by Christian Engineer Mass
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To: Tea Party Reveler

And then the Navy wonders WHY enlisted MEN HATE Officers.


4 posted on 12/05/2010 7:36:48 PM PST by US Navy Vet
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To: Tea Party Reveler

They should have busted her down a couple of ranks.


5 posted on 12/05/2010 7:43:38 PM PST by smokingfrog ( ><{{{{{(0>)
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To: Tea Party Reveler

Here’s another miscarriage of military justice: among the individuals pardoned by Obama is one Edgar L. Kranz, Jr., of Minot, ND. He received a pardon for his courts-martial conviction (as a member of the Air Force) back in 1994). According to military records, Kranz was found guilty of adultery, cocaine use and passing bad checks while stationed in Hawaii. He was sentenced to a bad conduct discharge, 24 months of home confinement and reduction in grade to airman basic. The BCD was later suspended.

Here’s where this case gets interesting. According to Air Force Times, Kranz retired from the service as a Master Sergeant earlier this year. That’s right, even with a suspended BCD, he was allowed to remain in the service, climb the ranks (again) and spend enough time in uniform to earn his pension.

The time when Kranz was court-martialed came just after the mid-point in my USAF career. In the mid-1990s, the service was over-manned; we were offering 15-year retirement, conducting RIFs and SERBs to get rid of personnel. We eliminated more than 10,000 billets just to keep the F-22 program alive.

Against that backdrop, how do you allow an airman who’s been court-martialed to remain in uniform, and let him re-enlist three or four more times? It simply boggles the mind. And, Obama’s pardon only makes matters worse. Now, Kranz is entitled to a full range of veterans benefits and his right to vote has been restored as well.

Obviously, the President didn’t do a lot of checking before granting the pardon. But the USAF screwed up royally by allowing this character to remain in service, and eventually become an E-7. Getting this type of “second chance” is virtually unprecedented—makes you wonder why Kranz was deserving of such favors.


6 posted on 12/05/2010 7:45:25 PM PST by ExNewsExSpook
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To: Tea Party Reveler
Navy has always had various class and caste systems in place.

Probably why the Marine Corps first mission is to keep the sailers apart!

7 posted on 12/05/2010 7:46:58 PM PST by muawiyah (GIT OUT THE WAY ~ REPUBLICANS COMIN' THROUGH)
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To: Tea Party Reveler

She should have been busted down to E-1 and then maybe permitted to receive her pension. Maybe !

Seeing a picture of her, she definitely looks pretty “sturdy” ! She must play the male part of the relationship !


8 posted on 12/05/2010 7:51:08 PM PST by CORedneck
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To: US Navy Vet

The whole damn clan of Graf’s infest the officers corps?
Her sister is an admiral?
Disgusting.


9 posted on 12/05/2010 7:58:10 PM PST by Frantzie (Imam Ob*m* & Democrats support the VICTORY MOSQUE & TV supports Imam)
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To: Christian Engineer Mass
We had hoped, with a Board of Inquiry consisting of three non-USNA grads,

The reality is that while alumni from USNA are tight, they also know way more about their classmates than other people. More often than not those people take the opportunity to fix a wrong.

10 posted on 12/05/2010 8:00:52 PM PST by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: Tea Party Reveler

Don’t sully the name of Captain Bligh. He was a brilliant seaman who had one bad voyage. After he was booted off the Bounty, he and the men who stayed loyal to him managed to navigate several hundreds of miles over open water to a safe haven.


11 posted on 12/05/2010 8:00:58 PM PST by MuttTheHoople (Democrats- Forgetting 9/11 since 9/12/01)
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To: US Navy Vet

Hoo Ya!

The O class R a buncha O’ pu$$ies excuding team orifice’rs.


12 posted on 12/05/2010 8:06:25 PM PST by kennyboy509 ( Ha! I kill me!!!)
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To: Tea Party Reveler

You take what you can get. I have to admit I’m surprised she even she got this in today’s PC Navy but it’s better than her getting off scot free. And remember, nothing is final until SECNAV signs off on it.


13 posted on 12/05/2010 8:06:29 PM PST by GATOR NAVY ("The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen." -Dennis Prager)
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To: Tea Party Reveler

Captain Queef *ping*...


14 posted on 12/05/2010 8:07:23 PM PST by Bean Counter (Stout Hearts!!)
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To: MuttTheHoople

“After he was booted off the Bounty, he and the men who stayed loyal to him managed to navigate several hundreds of miles over open water to a safe haven.”

You’re right. An open boat, 3600 miles in 45 days, IIRC. That was an incredible story. Bligh was an S.O.B., no doubt, but he was an incredible seaman and one tough dude.


15 posted on 12/05/2010 8:09:14 PM PST by webstersII
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To: Tea Party Reveler

This is what a Navy in a banana republic looks like...


16 posted on 12/05/2010 8:26:43 PM PST by WKUHilltopper (Fix bayonets!)
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To: ExNewsExSpook

Saw the same thing happen to an E-6 in the Army that battered his wife and his German lover (and her pimp) in 1980. He was busted to E-1, sent to the Retraining Brigade at Fort Riley KS. The Army, in its infinite wisdom, returned him to Germany and assigned him to another command just across the Rhein River from where he committed his crimes. The last I saw before DEROS he had made it back to E-5. Probably made it to E-7 and made retirement, too.


17 posted on 12/05/2010 8:45:37 PM PST by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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To: MuttTheHoople

Not hundreds of miles. Thousands!


18 posted on 12/05/2010 8:54:12 PM PST by MayfairFly ("Your total ignorance of that which you profess to teach merits the death penalty.")
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To: ExNewsExSpook

You should tell Major Mac about the Kranz case! It smells of Jill Metzger!


19 posted on 12/05/2010 9:04:10 PM PST by Tea Party Reveler
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To: MuttTheHoople

From what I have read, that navigation by Capt. Bligh in the small boat he was set adrift on, was one of the greatest feats of naval seamanship in all of history.


20 posted on 12/05/2010 10:03:57 PM PST by skimask
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To: Tea Party Reveler

Considering all of the hell she gave everyone on the ships she tyrannized on I’m surprised she just didn’t go missing one morning while out at sea. I guess today’s men are too weak to do anything about problems like this.


21 posted on 12/05/2010 10:04:34 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: MuttTheHoople
Don’t sully the name of Captain Bligh. He was a brilliant seaman who had one bad voyage. After he was booted off the Bounty, he and the men who stayed loyal to him managed to navigate several hundreds of miles over open water to a safe haven.

General Patton also greatly admired General Rommel. But Patton would have blown Rommel's brains out if he had the chance, and Rommel would have understood completely - and exchanged the opportunity himself, if he could.

Sides matter.

22 posted on 12/06/2010 12:46:14 AM PST by Talisker (When you find a turtle on top of a fence post, you can be damn sure it didn't get there on its own.)
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To: muawiyah

Nah, let them fight. When it’s over, the Marines buy the Navy ships for $1 and run it with half a crew(See USS Boxer LPH-4 and USS Princeton LPH-5).


23 posted on 12/06/2010 3:00:18 AM PST by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners)
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To: Tea Party Reveler

One slight slap on the wrist is she is going to get a General discharge although I would have prefered a Dishonorable or Bad Conduct.


24 posted on 12/06/2010 4:31:03 AM PST by bjorn14 (Woe to those who call good evil and evil good. Isaiah 5:20)
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To: USNBandit
Thanks for that reality check. We "ring-knockers" don't defend poor leadership just for the sake of academy graduation.

In Capt Graf's case, there may have been a modicum of preferencial treatment or plum assignments afforded her due to her gender, but I can tell you she earned her command billets. In the "black shoe" world, it's a dog eat dog competitive environment and one does not stand out for being "nice".

We Naval aviators are much more refined.

a6intruder...USNA Class of 1968

25 posted on 12/06/2010 5:37:03 AM PST by a6intruder (downtown with big bombs, 24/7, rain or shine, day or night)
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To: Tea Party Reveler

Thank god nobody has posted her pic in this thread, yet, lets keep it that way. Please?


26 posted on 12/06/2010 6:08:00 AM PST by Lockbar (March toward the sound of the guns.)
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To: Tea Party Reveler

27 posted on 12/06/2010 6:20:42 AM PST by reagan_fanatic (Save the whales. Collect the whole set.)
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To: skimask; MuttTheHoople

Bligh’s original instructions included charting Torres Strait during passage. And despite not having a ship, he did.


28 posted on 12/06/2010 6:52:41 AM PST by Oztrich Boy (History repeats itself, first as tragedy, second as farce - Karl Marx)
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To: a6intruder
What I've seen is that guys that with people issues at Annapolis continue their ways and don't get supported by their peers. It is much more likely that the offender is an accomplished butt shark and their sugar daddy is paving their way.

USNA Class of 1990. Beat Army.

29 posted on 12/06/2010 8:27:13 AM PST by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: CORedneck

FYI, officers cannot be reduced in rank to the enlisted grades.


30 posted on 12/06/2010 5:55:31 PM PST by ops33 (Senior Master Sergeant, USAF (Retired))
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To: ops33

Officers like Graf SHOULD BE REDUCED TO E1. I am an honorably discharged Army Vet. Made E5, and had an unblemished record-No loss of rank and no article 15s. During my time in the service, I saw alot of fine, capable officers, and not so fine and capable officers. When I was serving on the West Coast in the late eighties, the S3 of my battalion was a rather odious, profane character(An o4/Major) who had previously served as a Battery Commander as an o3/Captain. in the same battalion. What I am about to relate transpired before I was assigned to the Bn., and from what I was told this same Officer, while serving as a Battery commander actually kicked one of his soldiers who had fallen asleep while on night duty. And this Officer, from what I heard kicked that soldier more than once. Well, the officer was relieved, and what happened was conveniently swept under the carpet, and the relieved Captain was promoted to field grade rank! He should have been courtmartialed and busted down to his od green drawers. Anyway, sorry for digressing. Graf got off luckly, just like the odious s3 of my battalion.


31 posted on 07/22/2011 12:12:03 AM PDT by BanLibDems
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I beg to differ Annapolis alumnus. Graf received much more than a modicum of preferential treatment. She retained her four stripes and her pension. Considering her horrible treatment of subordinates and inept handling of ships under her command, Graf should have been demoted at least two grades to Lieutenant Commander, or even busted all the way back to Ensign. I dont deny the fact that she earned her command billetts, but her subsequent record clearly indicates that she was A TOTAL FAILURE AS A SKIPPER. You also mentioned the fact that in the “black shoe” world (Surface Navy) it’s a dogeat dog competitive environment where one does not stand out for being nice. True, but Graf’s treatment of her Officers and Enlisted people was absolutely and totally shoddy, degrading, disrespectful and downright horrible! Graf went over the line when she frequently swore at her subordinates and spat and threw coffee mugs at them. Facts that you either ignored or disregarded. I guess Sailors stick together,regardless of the circumstances, eh? Oh, for the record, I served in the Army as an enlisted man. And I was HONORABLY DISCHARGED AS A SERGEANT, so I do know something about how the military operates, even though I was never a Sailor.


32 posted on 07/22/2011 12:22:03 AM PDT by BanLibDems
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To: BanLibDems
It took you from December 6th to today to come up with this??? If you read the entire thread, you will find that I was not commenting on her tour as CO of the cruiser...merely how she got there.

If you a such a seasoned veteran, then you should know that a court martial would have been required to reduce her in rank.

Oh, for the record, I served in the Navy as an officer. And I was HONORABLY RETIRED AS A CAPTAIN, so I DO know something about how the military operates, even if I was never a Soldier.

BTW, no need to shout at me with Caps Lock on.

Freegards and thanks for your service

33 posted on 07/22/2011 6:04:39 AM PDT by a6intruder (downtown with big bombs, 24/7, rain or shine, day or night)
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To: a6intruder; All
"HORRIBLE HOLLY GRAF" GETS LAST LAUGH FEMALE "CAPTAIN BLIGH" ENJOYS SPECIAL TREATMENT - BD. OF INQUIRY RECOMMENDATION OF GENERAL DISCHARGE IGNORED BY JUAN GARCIA (ASST. NAVY SECRETARY FOR MANPOWER AND RESERVE AFFAIRS) - FIERCE FEMALE FOUR-STRIPER RELIEVED OF COMMAND OF USS COWPENS FOR CRUELTY AND MALTREATMENT OF CREW - TWICE PHYSICALLY ASSAULTED SUBORDINATE OFFICERS YET RETIRES IN-GRADE AS 0-6 WITH "HONORABLE" DISCHARGE - TOUGH ATTORNEY CHARLES GITTINS WINS ANOTHER ONE - RETIRED MARINE USNA GRAD

© 2012 MilitaryCorruption.com

The Capslock is from Military Corruption.com I didn't post a new thread but instead added the new information to the old FR Thread that brought up Holly Graf.

Semper Fi,

TS

34 posted on 01/09/2012 5:21:12 PM PST by The Shrew (www.wintersoldier.com; www.tstrs.com; The Truth Shall Set You Free!)
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To: a6intruder

Yes, Graf should have been court martialed. I neglected to mention that. Thought I made myself clear. Obviously I did not. Nobody’s perfect., Captain. Graf’s treatment of her subordinates was disgraceful, pure and simple. She was also an incompetent skipper.


35 posted on 04/12/2013 11:11:13 PM PDT by BanLibDems
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