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The world's largest army? America's hunters
Redding.com ^ | December 6, 2010

Posted on 12/06/2010 5:09:18 PM PST by SJackson

I don't spend my fall weekends tramping around the woods in pursuit of a buck, but a lot of my friends and neighbors do.

This blogger adds up all the hunters in just a handful of states, and comes to a striking conclusion:

The state of Wisconsin has gone an entire deer hunting season without someone getting killed. That's great. There were over 600,000 hunters.

Allow me to restate that number. Over the last two months, the eighth largest army in the world - more men under arms than Iran; more than France and Germany combined - deployed to the woods of a single American state to help keep the deer menace at bay.

But that pales in comparison to the 750,000 who are in the woods of Pennsylvania this week. Michigan's 700,000 hunters have now returned home. Toss in a quarter million hunters in West Virginia, and it is literally the case that the hunters of those four states alone would comprise the largest army in the world.

His point? America will forever be safe from foreign invasion with that kind of home-grown firepower.

Hunting -- it's not just a way to fill the freezer. It's a matter of national security.


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1 posted on 12/06/2010 5:09:22 PM PST by SJackson
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To: SJackson
700,000 hunters have now returned home.

Many of those went home to grab their muzzleloaders.
2 posted on 12/06/2010 5:11:11 PM PST by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: All; SJackson

Closely related thread:

What Good Can a Handgun Do Against An Army?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-backroom/2312894/posts


3 posted on 12/06/2010 5:11:32 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (Re: Gov. Sarah Palin: Even the lion has to defend himself against flies. ~German Proverb)
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To: Iowa Granny; Ladysmith; Diana in Wisconsin; JLO; sergeantdave; damncat; phantomworker; joesnuffy; ..

If you’d like to be on or off this Upper Midwest/outdoors/rural list please FR mail me. And ping me is you see articles of interest.


4 posted on 12/06/2010 5:12:27 PM PST by SJackson (In wine there is wisdom, In beer there is freedom, In water there is bacteria.)
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To: SJackson
"At what point shall we expect the approach of danger? By what means shall we fortify against it? Shall we expect some transatlantic military giant, to step the Ocean, and crush us at a blow? Never! All the armies of Europe, Asia and Africa combined, with all the treasure of the earth (our own excepted) in their military chest; with a Buonaparte for a commander, could not by force, take a drink from the Ohio, or make a track on the Blue Ridge, in a trial of a thousand years. At what point, then, is the approach of danger to be expected? I answer, if it ever reach us it must spring up amongst us. It cannot come from abroad. If destruction be our lot, we must ourselves be its author and finisher. As a nation of freemen, we must live through all time, or die by suicide." ~Abraham Lincoln, Address Before the Young Men's Lyceum of Springfield, Illinois (January 27, 1838)
5 posted on 12/06/2010 5:13:27 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (Re: Gov. Sarah Palin: Even the lion has to defend himself against flies. ~German Proverb)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Send them to clean out Washington, DC. Free ammo and no bag limit.


6 posted on 12/06/2010 5:14:46 PM PST by MasterGunner01 (To err is human; to forgive is not our policy. -- SEAL Team SIX)
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To: SJackson

If this were the 19th and early 20th century this would be a valid point. One hunter or a million with a 7mm against satellite guided missiles operated from thousands of miles away is not much of a defense.


7 posted on 12/06/2010 5:15:14 PM PST by loreldan (I'm shocked)
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To: cripplecreek
God bless America's hunters.

"But know this, that in the last days perilous times will come: for men will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, unloving, unforgiving, slanderers, without self-control, brutal, despisers of good, traitors, headstrong, haughty, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, having a form of godliness but denying its power. And from such people turn away, for his name is Obama."

8 posted on 12/06/2010 5:16:34 PM PST by Viking2002 (2012 - NO PRISONERS! NO QUARTER!)
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To: SJackson

You could also easily add on those of us that own guns, but don’t hunt. If I had to guess, I’d say we are 25% of the overall total, if not higher.

There’s a reason why all of us combined are the most powerful ‘interest group’ in the country.


9 posted on 12/06/2010 5:19:03 PM PST by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: loreldan

Winning territory with those missiles is one thing. But then the invader has to put his boots on our ground, and that’s where it goes very, very badly for him.


10 posted on 12/06/2010 5:19:45 PM PST by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: loreldan
We have bigger problems with the communists that are running the demonRATs and congress than with the possibility of a foreign invasion.

Invaders would never come until their allies in congress changes the Second Amendment and they try to take our guns.

11 posted on 12/06/2010 5:20:16 PM PST by USS Alaska
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To: loreldan

Bovine Scat! If 1 man with a rifle and the will to use it is obsolete, why aren’t we home from Iraq, Afghanistan and the Southern Philippines? How were two home-grown Moslems (one a juvenile!) able to terrorize Washington for so long?
Unless Mr. Obama has a death ray that we don’t know about, he has no way of overcoming such a force, short of thermonuclear weapons.


12 posted on 12/06/2010 5:21:14 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (Re: Gov. Sarah Palin: Even the lion has to defend himself against flies. ~German Proverb)
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To: loreldan

Not true. Those weapons are expensive, and you still need boots on the ground to hold land. We’ve sadly learned that against much smaller, similarly armed, and much less educated forces in the Middle East.

Any foreign invader would be shredded here. That is, if we as a people recognized it as such and acted...


13 posted on 12/06/2010 5:21:24 PM PST by piytar (0's idea of power: the capacity to inflict unlimited pain and suffering on another human being. 1984)
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To: KoRn
You could also easily add on those of us that own guns, but don’t hunt. If I had to guess, I’d say we are 25% of the overall total, if not higher.

Probably triple that.

14 posted on 12/06/2010 5:22:39 PM PST by SJackson (In wine there is wisdom, In beer there is freedom, In water there is bacteria.)
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To: SJackson

Too bad about 5000 can’t go to DC and hunt some communists, there are scads of them all over the place.


15 posted on 12/06/2010 5:23:08 PM PST by Rome2000 (OBAMA IS A COMMUNIST CRYPTO-MUSLIM)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Yep...and those goat humpers are nowhere near the marksmen American hunters are. Not even close.


16 posted on 12/06/2010 5:24:15 PM PST by Vigilantcitizen
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To: KoRn
You could also easily add on those of us that own guns, but don’t hunt.

I was thinking about that myself. In my case I don't hunt anymore and don't own a weapon but can get and use one on short notice.

The number in Michigan would surpass a million pretty quickly.
17 posted on 12/06/2010 5:25:46 PM PST by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Bovine Scat! If 1 man with a rifle and the will to use it is obsolete, why aren’t we home from Iraq, Afghanistan and the Southern Philippines?

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One man with a rifle? Is that what you think the enemy in these places is? How about thousands with mortars, heavy machine guns, RPGs by the thousands, IEDs and suicide bombers.

18 posted on 12/06/2010 5:25:48 PM PST by wtc911 ("How you gonna get down that hill?")
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To: SJackson

If the ability of a nation to drop buckets full of sunshine anywhere in the world doesn’t deter a foreign invader, I seriously doubt a few hundred thousand hunters with old-fashioned guns would....


19 posted on 12/06/2010 5:26:03 PM PST by sinsofsolarempirefan
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To: SJackson

I have often said that North Dakota could take France.


20 posted on 12/06/2010 5:27:38 PM PST by Uncle Miltie (0bama thought he'd find "common ground" on 0bamaCare because of ROMNEYCARE!)
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To: SJackson

Happiness is a steaming gut pile.....deer, antelope, elk, or a....(insert you choice here).


21 posted on 12/06/2010 5:29:49 PM PST by MountainDad (Support your local Militia)
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To: wtc911

You make my point, actually. Do you truly believe that the majority of the military, reserves and law enforcement would side with the Left? If not, do you think they’d leave their garrisons and station houses empty handed? How do you think the enemy in Iraq came upon the makings for the IEDs, and the other military equipment you mentioned? The Montgomery Ward catalogue? Sure, Iran is aiding them now, but in the early part of the conflict they were using provisions from the former Iraqi military, weren’t they?


22 posted on 12/06/2010 5:32:48 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (Re: Gov. Sarah Palin: Even the lion has to defend himself against flies. ~German Proverb)
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To: SJackson

Yup. All we gotta do is make sure the enemy is unarmed, hungry or horny and not nearly as smart as us.


23 posted on 12/06/2010 5:35:05 PM PST by BenLurkin (This post is not a statement of fact. It is merely a personal opinion -- or humor -- or both)
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To: Vigilantcitizen
Yep...and those goat humpers humpees are nowhere near the marksmen American hunters are. Not even close.

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24 posted on 12/06/2010 5:36:50 PM PST by IYellAtMyTV (Workday Forecast--Increasing pressure towards afternoon. Rum likely by evening.)
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To: buccaneer81

Missiles are very expensive, they dont have nearly enough.


25 posted on 12/06/2010 5:36:50 PM PST by Husker24
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

When it comes to police, I look at the way they dress when doing crowd control at a leftist event vs a tea party.

At leftist rallies they wear riot gear. At tea parties they wear shorts. They have neighbors too and I’m sure they would feel safest leaving their family alone with conservative neighbors.


26 posted on 12/06/2010 5:37:34 PM PST by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: SJackson

Yup. And such was Yamamoto’s assessment of the basic impossibility of any assault on the American west coast. That America was bristling with rifles “behind every blade of grass”.


27 posted on 12/06/2010 5:40:09 PM PST by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If my post proved your point then you mis-stated your point to begin with...it happens.


28 posted on 12/06/2010 5:40:34 PM PST by wtc911 ("How you gonna get down that hill?")
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To: loreldan
One hunter or a million with a 7mm against satellite guided missiles operated from thousands of miles away is not much of a defense.

Imagine you're in control of a battery of satellite controlled missiles. You have to eliminate 1 million hunters, at a distance of 1,000 miles. The hunters are deployed at a density of about 4-5 per square mile. Each of your missiles has a blast radius of a few hundred feet. Do the math.

29 posted on 12/06/2010 5:41:48 PM PST by tacticalogic
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To: Ramius
Terrain needs to be taken into account as well. Those of us who live where we were raised are very familiar with it.

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Start taking out bridges and Michigan becomes nearly impassable by vehicle and the dense Michigan underbrush doesn't make it any easier on foot.
30 posted on 12/06/2010 5:55:06 PM PST by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: cripplecreek

Agreed. It would be “the mother of all insurgencies”. :-)

Which... is why it is unlikely to ever happen. Our problems will always be more likely to come from a fifth column, more than an outside force.


31 posted on 12/06/2010 5:59:14 PM PST by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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To: MasterGunner01
Send them to clean out Washington, DC. Free ammo and no bag limit.

We already had one enemy that never considered that option because of that.

I'd be interested in some 'Bubba' numbers, hunters or not.

I have not hunted in years.

Prior to Nov '08 I owned one gun.

Currently, eight out of eleven are semi-auto's.

I can forsee doing battle with Obama's Civilian force, just not enough SWAT teams to go around, ya know?

I remember watching a video out of CA, the EPA nazi goons were all dressed in black, like 10 of them, all in line, carrying their auto's, marching up to this dudes house front door to take care of some violation or something. At a residential house? Reminded me of the Ellian Gonzalez affair.

My first thought?

Need Claymores. Lots of Claymores.

Then I woke up.

Damn, it was just getting good.

32 posted on 12/06/2010 5:59:21 PM PST by LasVegasMac (What's up with the towel on the head? - 'Ima Target')
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To: piytar

For the record, we wives may not be hunting, but many of us know how to defend our homes and would do so. Our men won’t have to fight alone.


33 posted on 12/06/2010 6:05:21 PM PST by trimom
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To: trimom

My last girlfriend was a competitive archer.


34 posted on 12/06/2010 6:07:47 PM PST by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: SJackson; LibreOuMort
Hunting -- it's not just a way to fill the freezer. It's a matter of national security.
35 posted on 12/06/2010 6:11:30 PM PST by sionnsar (IranAzadi|5yst3m 0wn3d-it's N0t Y0ur5:SONY|Why are TSA exempt from their own searches?)
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To: cripplecreek

So. Are the deer returning fire now? :)


36 posted on 12/06/2010 6:12:43 PM PST by Clint Williams ( America -- a great idea, didn't last.)
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To: MasterGunner01
Send them to clean out Washington, DC. Free ammo and no bag limit.

Too quick. Send them with ropes.

America -- a great idea, didn't last.

37 posted on 12/06/2010 6:13:44 PM PST by Clint Williams ( America -- a great idea, didn't last.)
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To: Clint Williams

Not yet but they will kick your ass in hand to hand combat.


38 posted on 12/06/2010 6:14:04 PM PST by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: IYellAtMyTV
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39 posted on 12/06/2010 6:32:09 PM PST by Cobra64
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To: loreldan

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/unified-quest-2011-pentagon-war-games-u-s-economic-meltdown/

Saw this on GB today. You never know who the enemy might be.


40 posted on 12/06/2010 6:34:28 PM PST by sportutegrl
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To: Uncle Miltie

“I have often said that North Dakota could take France”

Actually, can’t everywhere pretty much take France?


41 posted on 12/06/2010 6:47:05 PM PST by momtothree
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To: cripplecreek
Terrain needs to be taken into account as well. Those of us who live where we were raised are very familiar with it.

I know EXACTLY what you are saying:

Try digging somebody outta here sometime...

42 posted on 12/06/2010 6:50:24 PM PST by roamer_1 (Globalism is just Socialism in a business suit)
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To: cripplecreek

Nice pic.

I can envision myself there with a hammock, a fishing rod and a cooler, awaiting “rescue”.


43 posted on 12/06/2010 6:55:50 PM PST by SnuffaBolshevik
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To: loreldan; SJackson

Not so.

During WW2 the Germans took over Yugoslavia. Josip Broz, also known as Tito, was the most powerful resistance leader. He was interviewed early in the war, and asked the following question:

“How can your men, armed largely with old rifles, possibly hope to defeat the Wehrmacht and its new Panzers?”

Tito’s answer displayed both his tactical and strategic genius:

“When the Germans come out of their new tanks to take a piss, my men will shoot them with their old rifles.”

It is all about choosing the time and place of battle and, for an inferior force, avoiding the enemy’s strength. We have and are actively using the same weapons you speak of right NOW, yet the ill-educated, cave-dwelling, worshippers of a murderous pedophile are still fighting us-and it is WE who will leave soon, as did the Russians and British before us. Your “analysis” takes no account of strategy, tactics or willpower, a mistake made by many.


44 posted on 12/06/2010 7:03:56 PM PST by Ancesthntr (Tyrant: "Spartans, lay down your weapons." Free man: "Persian, come and get them!")
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To: loreldan
Had the citizens of Europe been well-armed in 1939, Hitler's Blitzkrieg would have been stopped in its tracks in Poland. Hitler's conquests were made possible only because the citizens of Europe were for the most part unarmed.

Here in America, the high-crime areas are the areas that have the most onerous gun control laws. This is because criminals feel secure operating in an environment where law-abiding citizens are unarmed.

This article has much merit. Millions of well-armed Americans bode well for our security. Let's hope the gun-grabbers never achieve their goals.

45 posted on 12/06/2010 7:36:43 PM PST by SamAdams76 (I am 223 days away from outliving Wendy O Williams (Plasmatics))
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To: loreldan

Losses are expected in all battles. Just how many missiles do you think exist and how long would it be before the World’s Largest Army tyook control of the assembly plant?


46 posted on 12/06/2010 8:02:09 PM PST by B4Ranch (Do NOT remain seated until this ride comes to a full and complete stop! We're going the wrong way!)
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To: sinsofsolarempirefan
sinsofsolarempirefan wrote: If the ability of a nation to drop buckets full of sunshine anywhere in the world doesn’t deter a foreign invader, I seriously doubt a few hundred thousand hunters with old-fashioned guns would....

Ol' fashioned ???

47 posted on 12/06/2010 8:03:33 PM PST by Spitzensparkin1 (Arrest and deport all illegal aliens. Illegal is not a race - it is a crime. WhooRaah! Arizona!)
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To: MountainDad

muslums


48 posted on 12/06/2010 8:07:42 PM PST by B4Ranch (Do NOT remain seated until this ride comes to a full and complete stop! We're going the wrong way!)
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To: cripplecreek

if you need verification, ask my brother...


49 posted on 12/06/2010 8:20:55 PM PST by stefanbatory (Insert witty tagline here)
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To: wtc911

They can’t be everywhere at once and while they’re getting a bite, the rest of us will get a mouthful.


50 posted on 12/06/2010 9:02:14 PM PST by bog trotter
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