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Upton flips a switch on CFL bulbs--Feeling heat, lawmaker sees light on incandescents
The Washington Times ^ | December 6, 2010 | Stephan Dinan

Posted on 12/06/2010 6:42:56 PM PST by jazusamo

Three years after he led the charge to require consumers to ditch their comfortable old incandescent lights in favor of those twisty CFL bulbs, Rep. Fred Upton now wants to be the man to help undo that law as the next chairman of the House Energy and Commerce Committee.

That about-face is not unique among lawmakers looking to atone for stances they've taken over the past decade as they seek to gain top posts in a decidedly more conservative Republican Congress, but his reversal underscores how intent the GOP is on proving it has broken with past practices.

"We have heard the grass roots loud and clear, and will have a hearing early next Congress," said Mr. Upton, a Michigan Republican who is facing several others in his party in a bid to earn the gavel of the powerful committee. "The last thing we wanted to do was infringe upon personal liberties - and this has been a good lesson that Congress does not always know best."

Indeed, the compact fluorescent lamp, or CFL, has become a symbol of government overreach for many consumers, who wonder what was wrong with the incandescent bulbs that have lighted their kitchens, family rooms and bedrooms for more than a century.

The government says incandescent bulbs have too short a life span and are inefficient, wasting most of their energy on heat rather than on light. CFLs, on the other hand, can last up to 10 times as long and use 75 percent less electricity.

Still, they were slow to catch on, prompting industry, environmentalists and lawmakers to team up and give consumers a push. Mr. Upton joined Rep. Jane Harman, California Democrat, to co-sponsor legislation to phase out incandescent bulbs beginning in 2012. Their bill was incorporated into the 2007 Energy Independence...

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I don't trust Upton, he should not get the chairmanship.
1 posted on 12/06/2010 6:43:00 PM PST by jazusamo
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To: steelyourfaith

Ping!


2 posted on 12/06/2010 6:43:39 PM PST by jazusamo (His [Obama's] political base---the young, the left and the thoughtless: Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo; Whenifhow; TenthAmendmentChampion; Clive; scripter; Darnright; WL-law; bamahead; ...
Thanx jazusamo !

 


Beam me to Planet Gore !

3 posted on 12/06/2010 6:45:02 PM PST by steelyourfaith (ObamaCare Death Panels: a Final Solution to the looming Social Security crisis ?)
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To: jazusamo

Ban Toxic Twisties

Stop the mercury poisoning of poor minority children.


4 posted on 12/06/2010 6:45:31 PM PST by PAR35
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To: jazusamo

These CFLs are a freaking joke! You can’t even throw them in the trash they’re so damn toxic! Who are the MORONS that thought this was a good idea??!??!


5 posted on 12/06/2010 6:46:14 PM PST by surroundedbyblue
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To: surroundedbyblue

Upton coauthored the bill and now has changed his mind being he wants to chair the Energy Committee. Repeal the bill and deny him the seat.


6 posted on 12/06/2010 6:49:09 PM PST by jazusamo (His [Obama's] political base---the young, the left and the thoughtless: Thomas Sowell)
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To: surroundedbyblue

Bureaucrats.


7 posted on 12/06/2010 6:49:16 PM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (Impeachment !)
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To: jazusamo
The quality of light they put out is pure crap.

OK in commercial settings,but who wants the inside of their house to look like a display case in the frozen food section of the supermarket?

They are also not dimmable, unless you spend about $14 dollars a bulb!

8 posted on 12/06/2010 6:49:42 PM PST by Rome2000 (OBAMA IS A COMMUNIST CRYPTO-MUSLIM)
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To: jazusamo
I only use CFLs. I buy good ones, not cheap knock-offs, and have since 1998. I'm happy with them for most uses.

But if I want to use an arc lamp to read by, and can afford the electricity, it's nobody's damn business what I buy/use.

And congress still doesn't have the authority to change that under the Constitution.

/johnny

9 posted on 12/06/2010 6:49:59 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: jazusamo

I don’t mind the curly bulbs, they have their place.

That said, I WANT A CHOICE, NOT A MANDATE


10 posted on 12/06/2010 6:50:10 PM PST by Carley (ISRAEL.......NOT SO ALONE!!!)
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To: jazusamo

“CFL, has become a symbol of government overreach for many consumers”.

####

That and the low volume toilet. In my house, each additional water-wasting flush required to sufficiently clear the bowl, is named for a member of the idiot Gore clan of Green Thieves:

#2 is the AlFlush (remnants of Al still clearly visible in the bowl).

#3 is the TipperFlush.

..and so on.

Each Flush


11 posted on 12/06/2010 6:50:26 PM PST by EyeGuy (')
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To: surroundedbyblue

“Who are the MORONS that thought this was a good idea??!??!”

GE did, GE makes a bunch of them.

So instead of making a light bulb they can sell for 97 cents, they make CFLs which they can sell for $5.99


12 posted on 12/06/2010 6:51:01 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: JRandomFreeper; Carley
it's nobody's damn business what I buy/use.

That said, I WANT A CHOICE, NOT A MANDATE

BUMP!

13 posted on 12/06/2010 6:53:51 PM PST by jazusamo (His [Obama's] political base---the young, the left and the thoughtless: Thomas Sowell)
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To: EyeGuy

The new toilets failed to account for the fact that some men are built such that their needs are neglected.


14 posted on 12/06/2010 6:54:07 PM PST by muawiyah (GIT OUT THE WAY ~ REPUBLICANS COMIN' THROUGH)
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To: EyeGuy

Good one, I’ll remember that.


15 posted on 12/06/2010 6:55:40 PM PST by jazusamo (His [Obama's] political base---the young, the left and the thoughtless: Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo
CONGRESS SHOULD NOT BE WORKING WITH ANYONE(!!!) TO PUSH ANYTHING ON CONSUMERS!!!!

Why is it that Congress and Government just cannot see that THIS is the problem! We do NOT need them to tell us what to do! The jerks.
16 posted on 12/06/2010 6:56:28 PM PST by Danae (Anail nathrach, orth' bhais's bethad, do chel denmha)
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To: driftdiver

Let the market place decide. The government did not have to outlaw the buggy whip.


17 posted on 12/06/2010 6:56:41 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain & proud of it: Truly Supporting the Troops means praying for their Victory!)
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To: jazusamo

someone who can be so wrong should never be listened to


18 posted on 12/06/2010 6:57:07 PM PST by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: jazusamo

I don’t trust Upton, he should not get the chairmanship.

+1 to that! Yank the turd’s stripes and bust him back to PFC


19 posted on 12/06/2010 6:59:48 PM PST by Babu
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To: jazusamo; xzins
The government says incandescent bulbs have too short a life span and are inefficient, wasting most of their energy on heat rather than on light.

9 months out of the year the heat produced by incandescents is not wasted, but contributes to the heating of the home. The money and energy saved is wasted by raising your fuel oil and gas bills.

20 posted on 12/06/2010 7:01:18 PM PST by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: jazusamo
CFLs, on the other hand, can last up to 10 times as long

anybody seen this to be true ? I haven't yet.
21 posted on 12/06/2010 7:01:18 PM PST by stylin19a
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To: jazusamo
"The last thing we wanted to do was infringe upon personal liberties

That is exactly what they were doing and they know it.

22 posted on 12/06/2010 7:02:20 PM PST by HP8753 (Live Free!!!! .............or don't.)
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To: muawiyah

The new toilets failed to account for the fact that some men are built such that their needs are neglected.

__________________________

Smells like discrimination to me.


23 posted on 12/06/2010 7:03:36 PM PST by volunbeer
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To: jazusamo

Agree with you jaz. The guy wants that power of that committee so badly. He wants to be the man, but he’s a RINO, and like all Lefties cannot be trusted at all. He speaketh for his own convenience. He’s a liar.


24 posted on 12/06/2010 7:04:51 PM PST by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will, they ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: jazusamo
OH, NOW he wants to rectify his mistake, now that he is in line for a chairmanship. Nothing wrong with that? RIGHT?????

And hey, let's not mention the jobs his decisions have cost. It's just a pittance, really.

25 posted on 12/06/2010 7:05:39 PM PST by TheThinker (Communists: taking over the world one kooky doomsday scenario at a time.)
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To: P-Marlowe; xzins

That’s true and in the summer months the days are much longer and bulbs aren’t used as much.


26 posted on 12/06/2010 7:06:00 PM PST by jazusamo (His [Obama's] political base---the young, the left and the thoughtless: Thomas Sowell)
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To: surroundedbyblue
These CFLs are a freaking joke! You can’t even throw them in the trash they’re so damn toxic!

Just take notice of who has Pro-Communist/Democrat party lawn signs during election season and deposit the spent CFL's in their yard as you drive by. (just joking, Put away the flamethrowers)

27 posted on 12/06/2010 7:06:21 PM PST by HP8753 (Live Free!!!! .............or don't.)
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To: jazusamo

I’m real happy for his conversion...and in about 20 years, if he continues to vote as a solid conservative, maybe he can apply for a leadership position. Until then...not a chance!


28 posted on 12/06/2010 7:07:33 PM PST by Tex-Con-Man
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To: stylin19a

The ones we tried didn’t even come close but that was about 4 years ago so they may be better now.


29 posted on 12/06/2010 7:07:38 PM PST by jazusamo (His [Obama's] political base---the young, the left and the thoughtless: Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo
"We have heard the grass roots loud and clear, and will have a hearing early next Congress," said Mr. Upton.

I heard this guy on a local radio interview. He completely disowned the legislation. He said "that was Jane Harmon's bill." He hid behind industry testimony at the hearings. I guess when a captain of industry tells you something common sense should go out the window.

He is completely untrustworthy.

30 posted on 12/06/2010 7:07:54 PM PST by Former Proud Canadian (How do I change my screen name now that we have the most conservative government in the world?)
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To: P-Marlowe; jazusamo

I use both, but if I need good lighting I get an incandescent. Outdoor lights that need to stay on a long time, I use the CFLs. Don’t have to change them nearly as often.

Choice. I don’t need the government me that they’re getting rid of adjustable wrenches because sockets are just so much better, getting rid of horses in favor of mules, or books in favor of kindles.

I actually prefer books, to be honest with you. And I like paperbacks over hardcover....much easier to hold in one hand while you drink coffee with the other. :>)


31 posted on 12/06/2010 7:10:40 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain & proud of it: Truly Supporting the Troops means praying for their Victory!)
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To: Tex-Con-Man
I’m real happy for his conversion...and in about 20 years

Amen!

32 posted on 12/06/2010 7:11:15 PM PST by jazusamo (His [Obama's] political base---the young, the left and the thoughtless: Thomas Sowell)
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To: stylin19a

Nope some last most don’t


33 posted on 12/06/2010 7:11:19 PM PST by al baby (Hi Mom REMEMBER FREE REPUBLIC IN YOUR WILL. I DID)
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To: surroundedbyblue

I toss them in my neighbors can


34 posted on 12/06/2010 7:12:04 PM PST by al baby (Hi Mom REMEMBER FREE REPUBLIC IN YOUR WILL. I DID)
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To: jazusamo

It’s a waste of time anyway.

Manufacturers have ditched much of their capacity for the old bulbs as they were complicit in lobbying for the new more expensive CFLs.

CFLs will become obsolete in the near future anyway as LEDs per the free market will make CFLs go the way of 8-tracks, Beta video recorders, laserdisks, etc.


35 posted on 12/06/2010 7:13:01 PM PST by quantim (Victory is not relative, it is absolute.)
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To: jazusamo; All
Mr. Upton and other lawmakers - including the other three men seeking the chairmanship of the Energy and Commerce Committee - now say they've learned their lesson and want to unshackle consumers and restore their choice in light bulbs.

Too late...!

Light bulb factory closes; End of era for U.S. means more jobs overseas

36 posted on 12/06/2010 7:13:42 PM PST by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin has crossed the Rubicon!)
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To: muawiyah

And some women Hillary has her fitted with a badger 9


37 posted on 12/06/2010 7:14:01 PM PST by al baby (Hi Mom REMEMBER FREE REPUBLIC IN YOUR WILL. I DID)
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To: jazusamo

I swapped every light in the Spodefly World Headquarters and Bunker Compound to CFL. They seemed fine ... got used to it. Didn’t notice any massive swings in electrical bills.

Recently tho, I found a light that someone was discarding. Basically a pole, with a bulb on top and a cone that directs the light up. It has a dimmer built into it. I put my last 60watt incandescent bulb into it, and turned the dimmer to low ... and what beautiful light.

A soft, deep orange glow that is beautiful. Made me hate the greenish, pasty CFLs.

Also, I had a CFL “burn out” not long ago ... very spectacularly. At first it just went out. No fanfare, just stopped making light. About 5 seconds later tho there was a horrible arc welding sound, followed by the stench of frying electronics, which I assumed to be mostly toxic due to the mercury in the CFLs, so I turned on all the fans and opened all teh windows and herded the cats into a different part of the house till it cleared up

And no, I didn’t observe some government enforced disposal ritual ... I threw the son of a bitch in the trash.


38 posted on 12/06/2010 7:14:36 PM PST by spodefly (This is my tag line. There are many like it, but this one is mine.)
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To: jazusamo

*** CFLs, on the other hand, can last up to 10 times as long***

Bunk. None have lasted over a year (6 months average)and one CFL lasted only 30 days.


39 posted on 12/06/2010 7:14:52 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (I visited GEN TOMMY FRANKS Military Museum in HOBART, OKLAHOMA! Well worth it!)
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To: jazusamo

No one is less trustworthy than a politician who has suddenly decided to do the right thing.


40 posted on 12/06/2010 7:15:45 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Islam is the religion of Satan and Mohammed was his minion.)
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To: jazusamo

I am reluctant to use CFLs because of the mercury hazard. I was a chemistry major as an undergraduate and worked as a lab assistant. We were rigorously trained to clean up mercury spills usually resulting from a broken thermometer. Even decades ago the vapor hazard from very small mercury spills was well known. Filling my home with CFLs to me is too much of a risk. I have been stockpiling incandescent bulbs and have been trying LED bulbs hoping that safer technology will become better and cheaper.


41 posted on 12/06/2010 7:19:55 PM PST by The Great RJ (The Bill of Rights: Another bill members of Congress haven't read.)
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To: quantim

I agree, the thing that’s so irking is Upton’s flip flop on this because he wants the chair, he lies.


42 posted on 12/06/2010 7:20:52 PM PST by jazusamo (His [Obama's] political base---the young, the left and the thoughtless: Thomas Sowell)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

Yes, it is too late and Upton knows it!


43 posted on 12/06/2010 7:21:54 PM PST by jazusamo (His [Obama's] political base---the young, the left and the thoughtless: Thomas Sowell)
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To: rockinqsranch

He’s undoubtedly the kind of man the new shallow toilets were built for ~ all of his needs are easily dealt with.


44 posted on 12/06/2010 7:21:59 PM PST by muawiyah (GIT OUT THE WAY ~ REPUBLICANS COMIN' THROUGH)
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To: spodefly
I threw the son of a bitch in the trash.

In a practical world that's what most will do.

45 posted on 12/06/2010 7:24:45 PM PST by jazusamo (His [Obama's] political base---the young, the left and the thoughtless: Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo

I would take the twisty little bastards and flush them down my toilet, but, oh yeh, my toilet won’t flush much of anything. Thanks, Congress. As Marion Barry once famously said about Jesse Jackson: “Jesse wanna run for Presdent — Jesse ain’t nevuh run nofin but his own mouff.”


46 posted on 12/06/2010 7:27:40 PM PST by blau993 (Fight Gerbil Swarming)
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To: stylin19a

Me either, plus they give some people, especially those prone to migraines, headaches. They make my eyes water, and that is a fact. I am stocking up on Incandescents just in case. I use the curly ones in some places but not everywhere and not in my bedroom. I was having a he** of a time trying to figure out why my eyes would start watering and stinging suddenly out of the blue. A little experimenting led to the conclusion it was the CFL bulbs. Why, I don’t know, I just know it is true.


47 posted on 12/06/2010 7:29:22 PM PST by calex59
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To: calex59

PS, the main reason though is that the government should absolutely no say what so ever in what type of light bulbs I use or how much water my toilet uses to flush.


48 posted on 12/06/2010 7:30:42 PM PST by calex59
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To: xzins

The marketplace IS working. If I read correctly, 30% of bulbs sold are the CFL’s. So people ARE buying them. But that’s THEIR choice. I HATE them with a passion. Pike Place Market in Seattle replaced all of their incandescents with CFLs and now instead of looking warm and timeless, it looks like some Soviet era gulag. And they probably threw the perfectly fine incandescents in the trash.


49 posted on 12/06/2010 7:31:25 PM PST by boop ("Let's just say they'll be satisfied with LESS"... Ming the Merciless)
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To: boop

All under the heading “Socialists are idiots.”


50 posted on 12/06/2010 7:34:40 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain & proud of it: Truly Supporting the Troops means praying for their Victory!)
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