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Sanders Hints He’ll Filibuster Tax Cuts Compromise
Roll Call ^ | 12/6/2010 | John Stanton

Posted on 12/06/2010 10:34:17 PM PST by Qbert

Sen. Bernie Sanders on Monday all but promised to filibuster President Barack Obama’s controversial agreement with Republicans to extend all of the Bush-era tax cuts for two years.

Appearing on "The Ed Schultz Show" on MSNBC, the Vermont Independent lambasted the agreement, which also includes a 13-month extension of unemployment insurance, a two-year exemption from the estate tax for estates worth up to $5 million and a host of provisions from last year’s stimulus bill.

“I think it is an absolute disaster and an insult to the vast majority of the American people,” Sanders told Schultz, adding that Democrats opposed to the deal “are right. We're talking about social justice. They're talking about more tax breaks for billionaires who don't need it.”

While Sanders did not explicitly say he would filibuster the bill, he made his intention clear, saying, “I've got to tell you, I will do whatever I can to see that 60 votes are not acquired to pass this piece of legislation.”

Whether Sanders can be persuaded to not try to block the bill remains unclear: Vice President Joseph Biden is scheduled to attend Senate Democrats’ luncheon Tuesday to defend the agreement, which Obama cut in secret talks with the GOP.

Senior Democratic aides said that while the deal — particularly the estate tax provisions — would be a bitter pill for the caucus to swallow, the agreement included enough pieces of the stimulus bill to make it worthwhile.

But Sanders, for one, said Monday that he believes Democrats should stand up to the GOP and the White House in the tax debate. “I think we've got to hold tough on this, hold firm on this, and not concede to Republicans, who, as you indicated, have absolutely no inclination to compromise,” he told Schultz.

Other Democrats, while not going so far as Sanders in threatening a potential filibuster, were unwilling to immediately throw their weight behind the bill.

“I need to look at it. I’m very unhappy about it,” said Sen. Sherrod Brown (D-Ohio) when asked on CNN whether he would vote for the deal. When pressed if he would stand on principle and vote "no," Brown said, “if I think this deal is as serious as a problem as it looks at this point, I’m likely to do that.”


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events; US: Vermont
KEYWORDS: estatetax; sanders; taxes
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1 posted on 12/06/2010 10:34:21 PM PST by Qbert
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To: Qbert

The days when one lunatic could hold up Senate business are long gone.


2 posted on 12/06/2010 10:37:29 PM PST by BenLurkin (This post is not a statement of fact. It is merely a personal opinion -- or humor -- or both)
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To: Qbert

3 posted on 12/06/2010 10:39:47 PM PST by Bratch
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To: Qbert

Bernie Sanders is a moron who is a legend in his own mind....if Democrats had a clue, they’d understand that deficits crowd-out private investment, BUT so too do high taxes on income for people who do most investing and on investment income —which is the reason WHY people invest. Only Democrats would think that tanking money from people most likely to invest it AND not letting people reap rewards from wise and uselful investment in private sector “progress” would be good for the economy!

Nancy Pelosi claims that we get back two dollars in tax revenue for every one dollar we spend on unemployment benefits...and Charlie Schumer claims that paying out unemployment insurance is good stimulus! Why isn’t the press all over these people.

If Sanders really cared about deficits, he’d be calling for an increase is less harmful consumption taxes or else calling for raising all tax rates across the board EXCEPT the top one!


4 posted on 12/06/2010 10:41:03 PM PST by Beowulf9
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To: BenLurkin

Please do this Bernie! Kill everything until the next session in January (along with the Dream Act and the homosexualization of the military). There are well over 60 members of congress and several defeated senators who have no business casting votes at this time.


5 posted on 12/06/2010 10:43:06 PM PST by MSF BU (YR'S Please Support our troops: JOIN THEM!)
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To: Qbert

Sanders is chicken.


6 posted on 12/06/2010 10:43:26 PM PST by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: Qbert

Go Bernie! I hope he succeeds so we can delay this deal for a week or two, and thus crowd out the DREAM amnesty, DADT repeal and START.


7 posted on 12/06/2010 10:47:14 PM PST by montag813 (http://www.facebook,com/StandWithArizona)
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To: Qbert
We were called crazy because we had figured out how to connect the dots together before they did.

The guy is so crazy about screwing the rich that he is willing to let millions of peasants starve with no unemployment check. Just like Lenin. What is a few million peasants when you can bring down a Czar?

8 posted on 12/06/2010 10:51:39 PM PST by April Lexington (Study the Constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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To: BenLurkin

“The days when one lunatic could hold up Senate business are long gone.”

You could be right. But my sense is that Nancy & Co. in the House are going to have a cow over this, especially the estate tax exclusion proposal. I could be wrong, but I don’t think they will go for this; don’t know how the numbers will pan out on their side, though.


9 posted on 12/06/2010 10:52:29 PM PST by Qbert
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To: Qbert

When did is become tax breaks for billionaires? Wasn’t it millionaires just a few weeks ago.


10 posted on 12/06/2010 10:53:43 PM PST by matt04
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To: Qbert

So we can only conclude that Sanders does not care about unemployed Americans or their Christmas. Or at least ala the Dims, we can claim to believe that Sanders does not care about the unemployed.


11 posted on 12/06/2010 10:54:43 PM PST by JLS (Democrats: People who won't even let you enjoy an unseasonably warm winter day.)
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To: Qbert

Begs the question, has he read the legislation he intends to vote against?


12 posted on 12/06/2010 10:55:02 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper (In 2012: The Rookie and The Wookie get booted from the White House.)
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To: JLS
So we can only conclude that Sanders does not care about unemployed Americans or their Christmas. Or at least ala the Dims, we can claim to believe that Sanders does not care about the unemployed.

I think he believes Obama has wimped out and this is his way of getting back at Obama.

13 posted on 12/06/2010 10:56:09 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper (In 2012: The Rookie and The Wookie get booted from the White House.)
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To: matt04

“When did is become tax breaks for billionaires? Wasn’t it millionaires just a few weeks ago.”

I think it’s New Math: $250,000 = 1 Billion


14 posted on 12/06/2010 11:03:40 PM PST by Qbert
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To: Qbert

Bernie Sanders is a reminder what happens when you put nitwits in a room to vote


15 posted on 12/06/2010 11:07:44 PM PST by chuckee
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To: BenLurkin
The days when one lunatic could hold up Senate business are long gone.

You underestimate the power of an old commie-hippie-politician hittin' The Bong.

16 posted on 12/06/2010 11:10:32 PM PST by Conservative Tsunami
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To: matt04
When did is become tax breaks for billionaires? Wasn’t it millionaires just a few weeks ago.

Give it another week - it'll be tax breaks only for gazillionaires and Tea Party people.

17 posted on 12/06/2010 11:12:25 PM PST by Conservative Tsunami
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To: April Lexington
I like what Rush said... institute a wealth tax... watch the vast amount of billionaire dimrats and liberal Wall Street fat cats scream... watch the millionaires in the Senate scream... you want to tax the rich? Take half of everything that people have that own more than say... let's be generous... 20 million dollars. We don't need all of the money we “ordinary Americans” have... according to obama and the evilcrats... so these mega rich don't need all of their wealth... we take half of it on a one time basis... for now... let those that steal from us, see how it feels when the shoe is on the other foot. They scream about the wealthy... lets see some of the truly wealthy really scream!

LLS

18 posted on 12/06/2010 11:17:38 PM PST by LibLieSlayer (WOLVERINES!)
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To: BigSkyFreeper
There is a “framework” only... no bill written... it will be laden with all manner of evil and pork... and lots of tax increases camouflaged as cuts... you watch what an abortion of a bill this will become... I predict 8000 pages plus or minus.

LLS

19 posted on 12/06/2010 11:20:05 PM PST by LibLieSlayer (WOLVERINES!)
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To: LibLieSlayer

“There is a “framework” only... no bill written... it will be laden with all manner of evil and pork... and lots of tax increases camouflaged as cuts...”

Yep.


20 posted on 12/06/2010 11:24:59 PM PST by Qbert
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To: LibLieSlayer

Right, I know. So nothing is set in stone at this point in time.


21 posted on 12/06/2010 11:27:25 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper (In 2012: The Rookie and The Wookie get booted from the White House.)
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To: LibLieSlayer

What The Rookie has done tonight is basically voiced his opinion (however nonsensical it is) and kicked a can down the road for the next president and left it up to Congress to squabble over. Meanwhile the tax rate increase deadline looms on the horizon while he’s basically washed his hands of the problem.


22 posted on 12/06/2010 11:31:15 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper (In 2012: The Rookie and The Wookie get booted from the White House.)
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To: Qbert
Bernie. You will become an irrelevant Commie now. You don't have the numbers to pull this crap any more and a lot of your friends are in bad shape for '12 so they will be AWOL.

Even Ted Baxter has your number.


23 posted on 12/06/2010 11:32:16 PM PST by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: BigSkyFreeper

“What The Rookie has done tonight is basically voiced his opinion (however nonsensical it is) and kicked a can down the road for the next president and left it up to Congress to squabble over. Meanwhile the tax rate increase deadline looms on the horizon while he’s basically washed his hands of the problem.”

I think he wants to run his 2012 campaign on his same tired 2008 theme: “GOP presidential candidate ______ wants to keep the temporary tax cuts for the wealthy for 2013 and beyond, and I want to give tax breaks for 95% of Americans and the middle-class, blah, blah...”. That’s why the deal was for two years only.


24 posted on 12/06/2010 11:43:27 PM PST by Qbert
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To: LibLieSlayer

Didn’t hear that. Right on. The truly rich have not suffered since the Civil War when the slaveowners lost all their capital in forced labor and in confederate bonds.


25 posted on 12/06/2010 11:50:41 PM PST by RobbyS (Pray with the suffering souls.)
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To: BigSkyFreeper

Exactly.

LLS


26 posted on 12/07/2010 12:29:10 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (WOLVERINES!)
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To: BigSkyFreeper
He was a disgusting turd tonight... that is what he is... but he was just oozing hate and venom... hussein... an America hating president... not my president... but a president.

LLS

27 posted on 12/07/2010 12:30:50 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (WOLVERINES!)
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To: Qbert

I predict his approval will slowly fall to the high twenties... like johnson before him... he “has lost America”.

LLS


28 posted on 12/07/2010 12:32:19 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (WOLVERINES!)
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To: RobbyS
Rush was making the point that those “rich” screaming the loudest would be the evilcrat dim socialist millionaires and billionaires. What sweet music that would be!

LLS

29 posted on 12/07/2010 12:34:09 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (WOLVERINES!)
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To: Qbert

He can always run for re-election, but right now the odds of him being elected much less nominated are slim. The people that elected him in 2008 are abandoning him in droves. Those on the far left think he’s wimped out and those on the center right believe he’s too liberal. He lied to get elected and most people don’t like being lied to twice. Barely two years into his presidency and he’s a lame duck president and he has himself to blame.


30 posted on 12/07/2010 12:36:47 AM PST by BigSkyFreeper (In 2012: The Rookie and The Wookie get booted from the White House.)
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To: LibLieSlayer

Yes, Rush was brilliant. Let’s hear the very rich Wall Street fat cats and Hollyweirdos scream, since they’re often libtard-democrats....LOL.


31 posted on 12/07/2010 12:44:32 AM PST by onyx (If you truly support Sarah Palin and want on her busy ping list, let me know!)
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To: LibLieSlayer
There is a “framework” only... no bill written... it will be laden with all manner of evil and pork... and lots of tax increases camouflaged as cuts... you watch what an abortion of a bill this will become... I predict 8000 pages plus or minus.

Lord have mercy. 8,000 pages! How many days (and nights) do they have?

Filibuster, Bernie! Go for it.

32 posted on 12/07/2010 12:47:57 AM PST by onyx (If you truly support Sarah Palin and want on her busy ping list, let me know!)
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To: MSF BU

Extending unemployment benefits 13 months
with no means to finance through cuts in other
spending is insane. Leaving tax rates at current
rates is better than the sharp increases on Jan 1st,
but still no great boon. Moving the expiration 2
years is still enough to kill job creation as many
businesses would barely be achieving any ROI on
the startup investment made in the current time
frame. Why take the risk? Just kicking the socialist
can down the road. Move the expiration to 2020
and cut corporate taxes. That would bring a stable
horizon and incentive to bring business back to the
U.S.


33 posted on 12/07/2010 12:48:41 AM PST by Myrddin
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To: April Lexington
The guy is so crazy about screwing the rich that he is willing to let millions of peasants starve with no unemployment check. Just like Lenin. What is a few million peasants when you can bring down a Czar?

Precisely! That's class warfare for ya.

34 posted on 12/07/2010 12:49:50 AM PST by onyx (If you truly support Sarah Palin and want on her busy ping list, let me know!)
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To: onyx
I like your suggestion to bernie! Did you see obamao on TV tonight? Mad as a hornet he was... all hating on republicans and such. It was all about me, me, me, me, me and I, I, I, I.

LLS

35 posted on 12/07/2010 1:01:40 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (WOLVERINES!)
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To: matt04
No Tax Breaks for Gazzillionaires and Super Duper Multi Gazzillionaires!

My work is done here, bedtime...

36 posted on 12/07/2010 1:01:47 AM PST by Kickass Conservative (Obama, Pelosi and Reid, the Axis of Fascism.)
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To: Qbert

Its the GOP who should be filibustering this deal!


37 posted on 12/07/2010 1:02:33 AM PST by TeachableMoment
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To: LibLieSlayer

Oh yes, I suffered through his petulant community agitator rant. Man, he couldn’t have been more political while he was reading the words “Washington has to stop playing politics”...LOL.

He’s a national disgrace. You’re so right - he must have said “I” 100 times.


38 posted on 12/07/2010 1:05:25 AM PST by onyx (If you truly support Sarah Palin and want on her busy ping list, let me know!)
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To: LibLieSlayer

Red Eye is almost over, so that’s my door card out of here.
I want to say that I’m sure you’re right about the pork laden bill and 8000 pages, which means the House Republicans will have to shred the bill and wait for the new congress. They will have hell to pay, if they pass a porker. Seriously.


39 posted on 12/07/2010 1:09:49 AM PST by onyx (If you truly support Sarah Palin and want on her busy ping list, let me know!)
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To: Qbert
Sen. Bernie Sanders on Monday all but promised to filibuster President Barack Obama’s controversial agreement with Republicans to extend all of the Bush-era tax cuts for two years.

Bring it on Bernie!

My cynical side says however he wants some pork for Vermont or simply a bigger office.

40 posted on 12/07/2010 1:59:48 AM PST by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: Qbert
"the Vermont Independent"

In the parlance today of the State-Run-Media, he's a "moderate".

In common sense FACT; he's a Socialist/Communist.

A wealth-redistribution advocate of the first magnitude.....

41 posted on 12/07/2010 2:25:14 AM PST by traditional1 ("Don't gotsta worry 'bout no mo'gage, don't gotsta worry 'bout no gas; Obama gonna take care o' me!)
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To: Qbert
I honestly don't mind if some commie lunatic shuts down the rest of the liberals congress. The tax debate will become a tight political noose the longer it drags out and the rest of Obama's agenda for the lame duck session will die off.
42 posted on 12/07/2010 4:22:39 AM PST by Caipirabob ( Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: onyx
I agree completely. Have a good sleep and a great day tomorrow. See you in battle against evil FRiend!

LLS

43 posted on 12/07/2010 4:23:27 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (WOLVERINES!)
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To: Qbert
Appearing on "The Ed Schultz Show" on MSNBC...

Otherwise known as teh "Mr. Ed" Show. :)

44 posted on 12/07/2010 5:00:06 AM PST by NRG1973
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To: LibLieSlayer

Wealth = Net Worth
Income = Net Work


45 posted on 12/07/2010 5:16:45 AM PST by stocksthatgoup (Wealth = Net Worth ...........Income = Net Work!)
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To: Beowulf9

Nancy Pelosi claims that we get back two dollars in tax revenue for every one dollar we spend on unemployment benefits...and Charlie Schumer claims that paying out unemployment insurance is good stimulus! Why isn’t the press all over these people.


Because the dollar that’s spent from unemployment dollars enslave the spender to the rats whereas the dollars spent from the Bush tax cuts free the people. Can’t have that now can we?


46 posted on 12/07/2010 5:32:31 AM PST by New Jersey Realist (Congress doesn't care a damn about "we the people")
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To: Qbert

Don’t they need to pass it first to see what’s in it?


47 posted on 12/07/2010 5:35:59 AM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: Qbert

Out, out, brief candle!
Life’s but a walking shadow, a poor player
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage
And then is heard no more: it is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.”


48 posted on 12/07/2010 5:47:31 AM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. N.C. D.E. +12 .....( History is a process, not an event ))
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To: Qbert

This is all just political theater.
The acting president comes out sounding like a conservative, but will not agree to ammend the tax laws.
His stock and trade is class warfare.
The dims are still in the majority until January AFTER the Bush tax rates reset back to clintoon era rates.
And none of them are talking about the obamacare taxes that will kick in on Jan 1.

Cap gains rate doubles
Dividend rates top rate goes up to 40%
Child tax credit goes from $1,000 to $500 per kid
The AMT has not been patched
The 2011 budget was due out last June. Not a peep about that and it’s December. Who knows what is in that beast.

The current crop of dimrats want to inflict as much financial pain as possible. Given all that, this story of obarqy agreeing to patch the Bush tax rate laws is just silly. Clinton campaigned on cutting taxes for the middle class and renegged on the deal. And his media gave him a pass. The current media is so much more invested in obama that he will never be critisized for backing out of the deal. He and his media have a history.


49 posted on 12/07/2010 5:48:44 AM PST by Texas resident (Hunkered Down)
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To: Beowulf9
Nancy Pelosi claims that we get back two dollars in tax revenue for every one dollar we spend on unemployment benefits...and Charlie Schumer claims that paying out unemployment insurance is good stimulus!

This is insane. People who are legitimately on unemployment are paying the rent or mortgage and trying to put food on the table. I don't see that it cover much else.

50 posted on 12/07/2010 5:52:10 AM PST by jersey117
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