Skip to comments.The Real Lesson of Pearl Harbor
Posted on 12/07/2010 7:32:38 AM PST by fruser1
On the anniversary of the Pearl Harbor attacks, Flags of Our Fathers author James Bradley explains how the U.S. under Teddy Roosevelt first meddled in Asian affairsand why were playing a dangerous game in doing so again.
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This is copied in Yahoo news too.
“The Real Lesson of Pearl Harbor” don’t EVER elect “Progressives(whether they be Rep or Dem)” to any public office.
Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?
All you need to read for judgment - major asshat!
FDR went to War against Germany and Italy - did they attack the USA? Were they threatening us with WMD?
China presents no military threat to the U.S.
Such stupidity can come only from someone who has absolutely no education whatsover.
No it was aircraft from the USS Enterprise and USS Lexington. Just last night I saw the film of Dauntless divebombers peeling over on their dive and the USS Arizona blowing up....photo proof that it was a US attack by that Devil F D Roooosvelt and not the innocent Japanese.
Pearl Harbor truther bump.
Germany and Italy declared war on us before we declared war on them.
If you fart around for a decade, never naming the enemy or taking the war to his homeland, you would be better off never to have gone to war in the first place.
Ask the Russians.
True, but FDR had given the US Navy the order to aggressively attack German U-boats in the Western & Mid-Atlantic so that the overstretched Royal Navy escorts only had to cover half the convoy routes. That was an undeclared naval war. Probably illegal. And guaranteed to draw the US into the European war had not Pearl Harbor happened and Hitler saved him the trouble.
Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?
Whoopi goldberg says the Japenese never bombed us at Pearl Harbor.
Wonder who she thinks did that bombing?
Indeed, with the world's largest economy and most potent military, the US is the preferred ally of almost every nation and the guarantor of peace and freedom for every developed nation. Even when we are criticized, it is because we are essential to the world's peace and orderly progress.
Contrary to common belief, we are likely to remain the world's only superpower for decades to come. China will soon suffer economic, demographic, and political dislocations that will dramatically limit her aspirations. Even the Muslim insurgency is likely to begin to fade within five to ten years as Islam adapts to modernity. Iran is already ripe for a pro-Western, pro-US revolution.
Of course, with the wrong national leadership and the wrong decisions, we could suffer a precipitous fall. But who would truly wish that except our enemies?
The real lesson of Pearl Harbor is to never let your guard down, especially when your pulling raw materials from other countries.
Here’s a lesson the Japs learned.... DONT FLY PLANES INTO OUR SH!T. Others didnt seem to learn from this did they....
Funny how the isolationists said the same about Germany and Japan.
In 1853, U.S. Navy warships entered the North Pacific with the largest show of naval power the area had ever seen. ~~~Which shows incredible prescience by the USN. (in 1853 they didn't yet operate aircraft)
The Navy’s goal in 1853 was to make Japan into what a Japanese prime minister later called “America’s unsinkable aircraft carrier in the Pacific”
Got a link to such a video?
Jeremiah Wright said something similar. Could Pearl Harbor have been an inside job?
The lesson is that we should make ourselves weaker, meaning presumably that Japan attacked us because they thought we were too strong to beat?
The lesson of Pearl Harbor is this: if you declare war, you have to fight with everything you’ve got and achieve total victory over the enemy’s ideology.
Amen, and when congress shirks it’s responsibility and lets the executive branch diddle around with war powers, what we see is what we get. It is their job to make the decision.
We have been diddling since the end of the big one in 1945.
Does it really say that at the Daily Beast? (I can't follow the link at my current venue.) Not only did the navy anticipate the invention of aircraft, they followed the premise through to the development of the aircraft carrier. True genius!
It’s a movie reference. Classic John Belushi line in Animal House.
Just watch the Pearl Harbor shows on History & Military Channel’s today and you’ll see it. My other “movie closeup error” is showing a P-47’s left side with 4 x 50 cal firing and then either a US fighter or bomber exploding that closeup usually follows a distance shot of a Bf-109 or FW-190.
Yes, yes it does.
Klingons via time warp.
Of course I know that, I was just expecting somebody to respond with "Forget it, he's rolling."
She said the Japanese military bombed us at Pearl Harbor.
Actually, to be just slightly accurate....
Germany and Italy declared war on us. Dumbest thing Hitler ever did.
We didn’t nuke the Japs then....
You’re gonna have to do better than that in support of your outlandish claim. I’ve heard the Pearl Harbor conspiracy theories for many years, but this is the first I’ve read of anyone claiming we bombed our own ships.
On the anniversary of the Pearl Harbor attacks, Flags of Our Fathers author James Bradley explains how the U.S. under Teddy Roosevelt first meddled in Asian affairs—and why we’re playing a dangerous game in doing so again.Pretty much "peaceful chinee threatened by American Imperialism"
I always assumed that my father—John Bradley—had raised two American flags on the island of Iwo Jima because of the Japanese attack at Pearl Harbor 65 years ago today. But unbeknownst to my dad, 88 years before Pearl Harbor, the U.S. Navy had eyed Iwo Jima as a potential staging area for naval operations aimed at China.
In 1853, U.S. Navy warships entered the North Pacific with the largest show of naval power the area had ever seen. The three neighboring countries—Japan, Korea, and China—had been at peace with one another for centuries.
The Navy’s goal in 1853 was to make Japan into what a Japanese prime minister later called “America’s unsinkable aircraft carrier in the Pacific” in order to compete for influence in nearby China. The pretext given to the American public was that the Navy was on a humanitarian mission to halt mistreatment of American whalers shipwrecked on Japanese shores.
Twenty years later, in 1873, Japan launched its first modern overseas military foray—an invasion of Taiwan. The rationale was to threaten China, thus allowing Japan to wrest the island of Okinawa from China’s orbit, an idea cooked up by the Japanese foreign ministry’s first foreign employee—a retired American Civil War general. The excuse was that the Taiwanese had abused Okinawan civilians. The Japanese invaders sailed on American-made ships with U.S. Navy advisers. In 1894, Americans applauded as a newly militarized Japan attacked China to promote “peace and stability” on the Korean Peninsula.
Then in 1905, President Theodore Roosevelt secretly urged Japanese leaders to develop a “Japanese Monroe Doctrine for Asia.” Roosevelt encouraged the Japanese navy to seize “a paramount interest in what surrounds the Yellow Sea, just as the United States has a paramount interest in what surrounds the Caribbean.” Unknown to Congress and his own State Department, Theodore Roosevelt agreed to a secret, unconstitutional treaty with Tokyo allowing the Japanese military to seize Korea and initiate their Japanese Monroe Doctrine for Asia.
When the United States and Japan later quarreled over who would control China, war broke out. President Franklin Delano Roosevelt condemned that day of infamy, not realizing that the Japanese navy had modeled their Pearl Harbor attack after a similar surprise naval operation in Korean and Chinese harbors 37 years earlier. In 1904, when word of Japan’s first infamous sneak attack reached him, President Theodore Roosevelt wrote secretly, “I was thoroughly well pleased with the Japanese victory, for Japan is playing our game.”
U.S. Marines raise the American flag atop Mt. Suribachi, Iwo Jima, on this Feb. 23, 1945. (Photo: Joe Rosenthal / AP Photo) The U.S. Navy is continuing Theodore Roosevelt’s game in Asia. In June, North Koreans fired on and killed three Chinese civilians on their northern border and Washington viewed it as a minor incident. In November, when North Korea tragically killed four South Koreans, President Barack Obama led the China-bashing and dispatched thousands of warships, tens of thousands of troops, and billions of dollars of high-tech weapons to the coast of China.
Simpler explanation for the Perry expedition (which is also the explanation for most historical events): Trade
Let me guess. You are a product of the Public School System? Right?
Hitler believed in return the Japanese would attack the Soviets in the Far East, and ease Hitler's burden in Russia.
The Japanese weren't stupid.
Nevermind. Going back an re-reading your post(s), it does appear that you’re being rather sarcastic. My bad.
Don't let Michael Bay make anymore movies.
I kinda like the Transformer movies though.
You got it, long live scarcasm!!!
Being such a proponent of it, I shoulda recognized it when I saw it.
Crow tastes icky.
Speaking of mistakes in entertainment, I used to work for Origin Systems back in their hey-day. The game Pacific Strike was rushed out the door with mistakes aplenty including the ability to fly a Japanese plane complete with US Navy insignia. Oops.
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