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Author claims we're in the grip of a mini ice age
The Sunday Sun ^ | Dec 5 2010 | Mike Kelly

Posted on 12/07/2010 10:58:33 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach

AFTER nearly two weeks of snow and sub zero temperatures rivaling those of Siberia, the old joke about global warming being a good thing has had a new lease of life. So what has happened to doom-laden predictions of the world heating up as glaciers melt? Mike Kelly reports.

A satellite image of the UK taken during last year's harsh winter

FIRST the good news. These bitter winters aren’t going to last forever. The bad news is that they will go on for the next 30 years as we have entered a mini ice age.

So says author Gavin Cooke in his book Frozen Britain. He began writing it in 2008 and it was published last year when experts were scratching their heads at the cause of the bitter winter of 2009/10 which brought England to a standstill. Some said it was a one-off event, with experts predicting snowfall becoming increasingly rare.

Now, 12 months on, the current sub zero spell makes last year look just a bit chilly. Just like kids enjoying ‘snow days’ off school, Gavin ought to be delighted with the cold snap. After all, he can justifiably say ‘I told you so’. But he’s as glum as the rest of us.

“I’m getting sick of it myself,” he said.

When Gavin, 48, of Monkseaton, North Tyneside, began writing the book the acclaimed documentary ‘An Inconvenient Truth’ by former US Vice President Al Gore about global warming, was still fresh in the memory.

It detailed how carbon emissions were contributing towards the melting of the polar ice caps causing the world to heat up.


(Excerpt) Read more at sundaysun.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: agw; algore; aninconvenienttruth; carbon; catastrophism; climatechange; fraud; globalcooling; globalwarming; globalwarminghoax; godsgravesglyphs; gorebullwarming; hoax; iceage; miniiceage; scam
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To: Myrddin

Also less rain.


41 posted on 12/07/2010 1:55:25 PM PST by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitur)
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To: LibertarianLiz
What is the best temperature for the Earth to be? Anyone? :

I'll ask your husband the first time I see him >:<(

42 posted on 12/07/2010 1:56:11 PM PST by tubebender (If you can not read, this thread will tell you how to get help)
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To: a fool in paradise
" They cannot predict whether those temperatures are going radically UPWARDS or DOWNWARDS, but which ever way they are going, it “absolutely” is man’s fault. "

Another way of putting it, in the liberal/ecofreaks mind, " The heck with what is causing global warming/cooling, it's man's fault......

43 posted on 12/07/2010 1:58:52 PM PST by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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To: DannyTN
" Rev 16:8 And the fourth angel poured out his vial upon the sun; and power was given unto him to scorch men with fire. Rev 16:9 And men were scorched with great heat, and blasphemed the name of God, which hath power over these plagues: and they repented not to give him glory. "

The fate of the Liberals and Atheist.
44 posted on 12/07/2010 2:03:50 PM PST by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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To: hoosierham
"Maunder Minimum of the geologically recent sunspot cycle was mentioned"

Of which, Maunder II could rapidly re-assert itself in the very short-term, much as Maunder I took a pause before basically wiping the spots from face of the sun for three score and ten...a continuing sum decline off the Mid-20th Century Maximum is a statistical inevitability....

45 posted on 12/07/2010 2:09:56 PM PST by StAnDeliver (\)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

We’ve been in an ice age for 4 million years. Normally there are no glaciers on the earth and the temperature is 6-10 degrees warmer than it is now.

It’s been colder the last few years because the sun has had an unusually long minimum (based on almost 400 years of data).

We went through something similar in the early 1910’s.


46 posted on 12/07/2010 2:17:19 PM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: tubebender; Ernest_at_the_Beach
Suck up...

Occasinally I actually have to do something at work, like work and cannot devote full time to FReeping. I bounced this to Ernest because he's on a roll on this AGW scam. :)

47 posted on 12/07/2010 2:39:02 PM PST by SouthTexas (WE are the Wave)
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To: tubebender
LOL! Hubby, like myself, doesn't believe in any of this stuff. I view the whole thing as the Earth having cycles, short ones and long ones. I also think that the "huge fireball in the sky" (Hugh Hewitt) has a lot to do with how warm or cold we are.

I guess what I meant, was the whole "the earth has a temperature" b.s. that Gore was pushing. So, Al, what is a normal "temperature" for the Earth?

To steal a phrase from another blogger (Glenn Reynolds), "I'll start acting like there is a crisis when the people telling me there is a crisis start acting like there is a crisis."

48 posted on 12/07/2010 6:43:39 PM PST by LibertarianLiz
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Thanks Earnest


49 posted on 12/07/2010 7:03:29 PM PST by Paul Pierett (Paul Pierett)
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To: Paul Pierett
To all

There are Ice Ages of varying severity every 10-20 thousand years. We just left a fairly severe one approximately 10 thousand years ago, a mini-one ended approximately 200 years ago. So clearly we are headed toward another on the question is how far out and how severe. Its possible in 200 years our descendants might wish Global Warming was real!

50 posted on 12/07/2010 7:10:47 PM PST by Reily
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To: Reily

My personal preference is gradual warming over rapid cooling but I have a feeling my wishes are insignificant...


51 posted on 12/07/2010 7:37:02 PM PST by tubebender (If you can not read, this thread will tell you how to get help)
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To: editor-surveyor

But, a “mini” ice age is another matter. He’s talking about conditions similar to that of the little ice age some centuries ago. When Sweden invaded Denmark by marching across the ice:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Ice_Age

It will basically entail winters like we have now and perhaps a bit colder for an extended time period.

Cheers.


52 posted on 12/08/2010 12:37:14 AM PST by Eurotwit
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To: LibertarianLiz

Technically he is right. Always trust spock :-)

We are in an ice age, but in an interglacial period where the poles receed a bit (i.e. where we are currently at).


53 posted on 12/08/2010 12:39:47 AM PST by Eurotwit
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

He got it from a literal reading of the bible.

Besides an “iceage” doesn’t entail the end of the earth anyhow - Just a 100 000 year break for civilization in north America and northern Europe.

Heck, I feel it might be about time to wipe the slate clean anyhow and start over :-P

Cheers.


54 posted on 12/08/2010 12:42:01 AM PST by Eurotwit
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To: StAnDeliver
Some solar scientists predicted a while back that sun spots would be gone totally by 2015 or so. So far their prediction seems right on track. We might be heading into uncharted waters goes as an advanced society...


55 posted on 12/08/2010 12:46:00 AM PST by Eurotwit
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To: 75thOVI; aimhigh; Alice in Wonderland; AndrewC; aragorn; aristotleman; Avoiding_Sulla; BBell; ...

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56 posted on 12/11/2010 8:29:28 PM PST by SunkenCiv (The 2nd Amendment follows right behind the 1st because some people are hard of hearing.)
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57 posted on 12/11/2010 8:31:08 PM PST by SunkenCiv (The 2nd Amendment follows right behind the 1st because some people are hard of hearing.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

After last year, and how this year’s Winter is starting out, I dammed well believe it!

When in the hell is our global WARMING going to finally begin? I wish it were now! I’m beyond sick of freezing my ass off!!!!!!!!


58 posted on 12/11/2010 9:01:21 PM PST by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; All

Global warming, global cooling, climate change, what does it matter. They all mean increased use of energy which is in shorter supply and getting more expensive. I live in the mid-Atlantic area, keep my thermostat at 55, wear a stocking cap to bed and a sweater, and put a heating pad on my feet, have a heat lamp clipped to the headboard so I can read in bed without chilling my shoulders and arms. My Social Security and small Teacher’s pension frozen for 2 years. My tax bill and health insurance go up.

I sympathize with the people described in the link. We all need to conserve energy if we don’t want to spend a fortune for it. I don’t want the government to force us to use CFLs, but except for certain specific reasons, it is foolish and selfish not to use them and a lot of other energy saving measures.


59 posted on 12/11/2010 11:20:26 PM PST by gleeaikin
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