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Rick Santorum now TRASHES candidates he SUPPORTED in September
RED STATE ^ | December 7, 2010 | Grassroots1773

Posted on 12/07/2010 11:27:00 AM PST by Moseley

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To: Moseley

Again, if you are saying she had no chance of winning because of the establishment, the logical conclusion is that we can’t buck the establishment.

I disagree with you, but because of your personal involvement in the 2008 campaign, I’m not going to debate logic with your emotion.

81 posted on 12/12/2010 12:11:29 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: CharlesWayneCT

I am saying that *NO* candidate has a chance of winning if conservatives take sides with the liberal attacks.

Christine O’Donnell was AHEAD of Chris Coons in the polls in the Summer — until the lies started flying.

*NO* candidate will fare any better if they are lied about and attacked, and we do not know how to respond.

If you listen to the liberal attacks, and JOIN THEM, then you are part of the liberal army fighting against conservatism.

The founder of the Republican party famously reminded us: “No house divided against itself can stand.”

Remember: I WON the primary in 2008. The campaign that I ran was successful.

82 posted on 12/12/2010 3:11:15 PM PST by Moseley (
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To: CharlesWayneCT

o Bill Maher’s show was a *COMEDY* show. Nothing she said on a COMEDY show a decade ago would be baggage if Republicans knew how to run campaigns.

o Fred Davis was an *ESTABLISHMENT* TV ad guru who created the “I’m not a witch ad.”

Fred Davis was the best of the best — the Mozart of our time for TV ads. So if you hire the very best in the business, you expect them to deliver.

Fred Davis is Sen. Inhofe’s nephew.

Hiring the best political TV ad man in the business was a MISTAKE — not “baggage.”

Christine told me personally that if she could do one thing over — only one thing — it would be NOT listening to the top people in politics twisting her arm to hire Fred Davis.

One can only hope that Fred Davis will never work again in politics. Can you imagine the job interview: “What have you done before, Mr. Davis?” “I did the ‘I’m not a witch ad.’ Okay, don’t let the door hit you on the way out.”

But a campaign mistake is not “baggage.” When you have only 6 weeks for the general election from Sept. 15 to Nov. 2, mistakes are inevitable.

o Nearly ALL campaigns end with a debate, Charles. How is that BAGGAGE, Charles? Hillary Clinton ended her campaign with $22 million of debt.


If you think it is significant, surely you must know how much it is, right?

o Can you tell us how much of this campaign debt is becuase of people or vendors WHO NEVER SUBMITTED THE PROPER DOCUMENTATION TO GET PAID?

I can. Can you?

o Why is it baggage that Christine changed her media schedule?

Christine appeared at local Delaware churches and at a Sussex County rally — far more important for winning votes than going on TV.

o Why is it baggage that while running for office she could not also earn a lot of money?

Are you saying that only rich people can run for office?

o Christine said that she tied 2 of 3 counties, which by percentage she did.

However, everyone mis-speaks.

Obama says all kinds of idiotic things. SEE:

Why does a slip of the tongue matter for Christine, but not for Obama?

83 posted on 12/12/2010 3:21:33 PM PST by Moseley (
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To: CharlesWayneCT
I won't assert any of the disputed pieces of baggage are true; I don't know.

That's the whole point, Charles.

If Person A tells the world that you are a child rapist....

o Do you have baggage because someone called you a child rapist? o Or is Person A lying about you? If people LIE about Christine O'Donnell.... o Are those people LIARS o Or does Christine -- the victim -- now have "baggage?"
84 posted on 12/12/2010 3:24:06 PM PST by Moseley (
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To: CharlesWayneCT
I only listed the inctrovertable things, things she didn't deny or where she's recorded.

See, again, you are clueless. Christine has denied all of these things repeatedly. You claim she did not deny it? You simply are not paying attention.
85 posted on 12/12/2010 3:26:15 PM PST by Moseley (
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To: CharlesWayneCT
When Castle was accused of being gay, that became BAGGAGE for Castle. Makes no difference if it's true or not, the question is whether it influences the electorate

No, absolutely false. No one believed that Mike Castle was gay, including because Christine immediately came out and condemned the accusaation, and praised Mike Castle's wife as a fine woman.

Since no one believed it to be true, it had no effect whatsoever.

Your ideas are a guarantee of failure 100% of the time.

ALL candidates can be subject to similar attacks. There is NO candidate who will ever be immune from being lied about. If you want to take power away from liberal elites, they are going to fight back.

ANY candidate can be lied about.

The question is whether you fight back or you fight on the side of the liberals by attacking your own people.
86 posted on 12/12/2010 3:32:09 PM PST by Moseley (
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To: Moseley

Similarly, the porongraphic story about Christine in the Gawker also had no effect on the election because no one believed it was true. It was not baggage. It was garbage.

87 posted on 12/12/2010 3:33:26 PM PST by Moseley (
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To: Moseley

Whew. That is one tough post to make sense out of.

I like Rick Santorum.

88 posted on 12/12/2010 3:37:51 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Lancey Howard

I like him, too. He just needs to stay consistent and not attack other Republicans for cheap shots.

89 posted on 12/12/2010 4:31:27 PM PST by Moseley (
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To: Moseley
Here is an example. Why is it that Obama can get away with this and it doesn't cause him any problems?

Because Democrats close ranks and fight together. They don't allow attacks to go unananswered.

90 posted on 12/12/2010 4:37:39 PM PST by Moseley (
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To: vette6387

Right you are! Nevada and Maryland are RAT states. While I respect both Angle and O’Donnell for their attempts, they were, at the end of the day unelectable for any number of reasons.


You do realize that O’Donnell ran in Delaware, not Maryland, right? I mean, we’re neighbors and all that, but DE can keep her. She would not have won the GOP primary in Maryland.

91 posted on 12/28/2010 1:09:06 PM PST by dmz
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To: dmz

O’Donnell is really a Jersey Girl.

Draw your own conclusions.


92 posted on 12/28/2010 1:11:19 PM PST by Palladin (Stand and fight.)
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