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[Miller Update] Over 5000 Votes in Alaska's U.S. Senate Race Not Verified
Red County ^ | 12/7/10 | Thomas Lamb

Posted on 12/08/2010 12:04:36 AM PST by RileyD, nwJ

Last week I spoke with an observer that is with the Miller campaign and after scouring the voter rolls, the observer found over 5000 votes that have not been verified according to Alaska election laws and the ballots cast were not questioned ballots.

In Alaska, the secret ballot and the laws that pertain to how a ballot can be cast with the weak oversight that has been displayed by the Alaska Division of Elections, can lead to voter fraud.

Plain and simple.

The problem with the over 5000 votes cast that were not verified is, there was no indication on who voted and for who.

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TOPICS: Editorial; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Alaska
KEYWORDS: alaska; election; election2010; electionfraud; miller; murkowski; votefraud; voterfraud
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More evidence of fraud and vote tampering in Alaska's U.S. Senate election ... First I have read about 5000 (so far) unverified votes in this election.

The article doesn't tell me, but I have to wonder if the 5000 unverified votes were counted and for whom?

1 posted on 12/08/2010 12:04:40 AM PST by RileyD, nwJ
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To: RileyD, nwJ

Note to RINOs: Do Not ask for my vote if your are unwilling to standup for it to be counted, pure and simple.


2 posted on 12/08/2010 12:16:22 AM PST by J Edgar
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To: RileyD, nwJ

Here is my thoughts, Miller won’t quit, there is a flood of manufactured resentment against trivial stuff identical to how Sarah Palin was attacked now going against Joe, the deranged left think it was a winning strategy to kill the opponent by a thousand cuts.

They are pursuing erased e-mails from his office, looking for dirt, looking for enough smoke to make people cry fire.

However with the democratic left now more apparently eating each other and without any firm leadership they are starting to cave in to the reality that they have lost, they are losing supporters and are lost in direction.

So as I see it up here in Alaska, especially with what Obama just did as far as the tax decisions Lisa Murkowski has been further pushed into a dead end corner politically, even should she some how win she will only be an obsolete voice.

Unfortunately there is a lot of Alaskans that are convinced Joe Miller is damaged property, thanks to the local MSM up here. But Joe is firm about his decision to expose voter fraud here in Alaska and that is more than enough for me to ignore the petty witch hunts against him.


3 posted on 12/08/2010 1:08:31 AM PST by Eye of Unk (If your enemy is quick to anger, seek to irritate him. Sun Tzu, The Art of War.)
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To: Eye of Unk

“there is a flood of manufactured resentment against trivial stuff identical to how Sarah Palin was attacked now going against Joe,”

Mr. Eye,

Please keep us informed of these by citing articles when they appear.

Who are the protagonists? In Sarah’s case it was “The Celtic Diva.” Is the Anchorage Daily News a big factor?

Is Obama’s new COS, what’s his name - Louse, or grouse or something, involved?


4 posted on 12/08/2010 3:01:28 AM PST by eCSMaster
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To: RileyD, nwJ

5,000 seems like an awful lot in these circumstances.


5 posted on 12/08/2010 3:37:30 AM PST by GVnana (I'm a Mama Grizzly)
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To: J Edgar

Let me see if I have this straight.....there were more votes for the democrat and the write-in candidate than the pub candidate...am I missing something here? Or is Alaska now a majority communist state??


6 posted on 12/08/2010 5:16:54 AM PST by joe fonebone (The House has oversight of the Judiciary...why are the rogue judges not being impeached?)
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To: RileyD, nwJ

I’m glad to see Joe pursuing this. IMHO, voter fraud has been institutionalized in MANY states throughout the country, and pursuing it aggressively here, will give We the People insight nationwide as to how the Rincocrat Oligarchs run these scams.


7 posted on 12/08/2010 5:23:39 AM PST by mo
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To: joe fonebone

No. The Dims only garnered 27 percent or so. The battle is between Miller and Princess Lisa, over the write-in ballots. Specifically over mispelled ballots, and as Miller is finding bags of ballots that were improperly cast.

Glad to see Miller continuing to fight.


8 posted on 12/08/2010 7:19:04 AM PST by BenKenobi (Obama's book of the month, Herman Melville's Killin' Whitey)
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To: BenKenobi

I may not have been clear....If 27% voted for the dim, that leaves 73% that did not. If the votes are close to evenly split, that means that 36.5% voted for each. 36.5 plus 27 equals 63.5% that did not vote for miller. A very clear majority of the voters did not want miller. My question is, why? was he a bad candidate? or has alaska gone communist?


9 posted on 12/08/2010 8:04:49 AM PST by joe fonebone (The House has oversight of the Judiciary...why are the rogue judges not being impeached?)
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To: joe fonebone

I’m as mystified as you are that so many didn’t vote for Miller. I don’t understand it either.


10 posted on 12/08/2010 8:09:06 AM PST by BenKenobi (Obama's book of the month, Herman Melville's Killin' Whitey)
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To: Eye of Unk

Go Joe! Stick with it!


11 posted on 12/08/2010 10:12:55 AM PST by HonestConservative (http://www.freedomradiorocks.com)
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To: HonestConservative; BenKenobi; mo; GVnana; Eye of Unk
Asked the author of the article, Thomas Lamb, "Can you provide more info on these 5000 unverified votes please. Also, do you believe this is the final count of unverified votes or do you believe more will be found or discovered."

He replied, "... there are over 5000 votes that were cast that have no indication that the voter's ID was checked. The voter rolls have an area to check on what type of ID was used. This was not done.(boldface added)

By law, the DOE has to check what type of ID was used. This was not the case.

He also added, "There are other problems showing up on voter rolls and that is being looked at the moment.

My guess is Lisa wants to avoid a recount at all costs with the potential for 5000 votes to be invalidated all at once and I will give you three wild guesses for whom the vast majority (if not all) of those votes were cast - and the first two guesses don't count.

Cheers!

12 posted on 12/08/2010 11:23:58 AM PST by RileyD, nwJ (proud husband, father, and grandfather)
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To: RileyD, nwJ

Thanks for the update! I’m still watching this one with great interest, but information has been pretty scarce.


13 posted on 12/08/2010 12:11:37 PM PST by lonevoice (Where the Welfare State is on the march, the Police State is not far behind)
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To: BenKenobi

We have dumb voters in Alaska just as much as anywhere else.

It may be a red state but a large majority are really voting from the middle of the highway so to speak, plus by the nature of few and precious jobs combined with limited seasonal work people will vote for whoever promises more pork, more earmarks, more under the table construction bribes and of course more Federalized social programs.

Was Miller a bad candidate?

No he wasn’t, he is targeted just like Sarah Palin, they tried every trick they could to cast him in a bad image, from staging a security shuffle to now performing a Macarthy style witch hunt for lost e-mails. Digging for dirt and then throwing it up in the air hoping it makes him dirty.

Joe Miller earned all the right credentials, Iraq tanker vet, West Point grad, and a very conservative family Conservative. Basically the image of everything that the left despises. Lisa will back anything for popularity, including the Dream Act.


14 posted on 12/08/2010 12:55:43 PM PST by Eye of Unk (If your enemy is quick to anger, seek to irritate him. Sun Tzu, The Art of War.)
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To: BenKenobi; joe fonebone

Obviously, neither of you have followed this...suggest you go do a search here at FR for Joe Miller and educate yourself...HINT: massive voter fraud by Murky...MASSIVE


15 posted on 12/08/2010 1:03:07 PM PST by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand;but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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To: shield

Well of course, but I guess the question is why didn’t he secure a majority of votes in Alaska. He’s an excellent candidate.

Are you suggesting that Murkowski voter fraud was significant enough to match up to the total electorate in Alaska?


16 posted on 12/08/2010 3:26:52 PM PST by BenKenobi (Obama's book of the month, Herman Melville's Killin' Whitey)
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To: BenKenobi

Most AK voters have voted for liberal candidates in both parties since statehood. Most considered Ted Stevens “conservative.” I don’t know about the economy there, but people vote their pocketbook as they misperceive it.


17 posted on 12/08/2010 3:37:23 PM PST by Theodore R. (Rush was right when he said America may survive Obama but not the Obama supporters.)
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To: BenKenobi

It was massive....we have an average of voter turnout in the lower 48 states...so what happened different to give Alaska their turnout? Massive voter fraud...this is why Joe Miller is fighting this...since you’ve not followed this like I suggested earlier do some research....


18 posted on 12/08/2010 3:38:33 PM PST by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand;but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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To: SeattleBruce

ping


19 posted on 12/08/2010 4:38:03 PM PST by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand;but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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To: Eye of Unk

“even should she some how win she will only be an obsolete voice.”

Right.

“there is a lot of Alaskans that are convinced Joe Miller is damaged property, thanks to the local MSM up here.”

I hate the enemedia.


20 posted on 12/08/2010 5:10:14 PM PST by SeattleBruce (We voted - NOW we fight against vote fraud! Tea Party like it's 1773! Pray 2 Chronicles 7:14!)
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To: joe fonebone

“I may not have been clear....If 27% voted for the dim, that leaves 73% that did not. If the votes are close to evenly split, that means that 36.5% voted for each. 36.5 plus 27 equals 63.5% that did not vote for miller. A very clear majority of the voters did not want miller.”

That’s not quite getting at the nub of it here, imho Joe. If murky hadn’t lied, and had dropped out of the race after she lost in the primary, as she said she would, then a ‘very clear majority of the voters’ would have voted FOR Miller. As it was, murky lied, and there was a 3 way race - almost like a modified primary - with the RAT dragging down the percentages. The primary was similarly close, btw.

I do think, BTW, that AK is not as conservative as some may think - probably not as conservative as say Idaho, or Utah...clearly proves the point that an R after someone’s name does not necessarily equate to true conservative.


21 posted on 12/08/2010 5:32:04 PM PST by SeattleBruce (We voted - NOW we fight against vote fraud! Tea Party like it's 1773! Pray 2 Chronicles 7:14!)
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To: shield

Thanks for the ping on this shield. Wow, this is something! It gets more interesting all the time.


22 posted on 12/08/2010 5:33:17 PM PST by SeattleBruce (We voted - NOW we fight against vote fraud! Tea Party like it's 1773! Pray 2 Chronicles 7:14!)
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To: shield; All
Joe Miller Tells Begich to Get Back to Work
http://joemiller.us/2010/12/joe-miller-tells-begich-to-get-back-to-work/

Fairbanks, Alaska. December 6, 2010 — Recently, Mark Begich issued a statement asking Joe Miller to drop his legal challenge to the election ballot issues. In response, Joe Miller said Begich should “get back to work and stop wasting time in D.C.” Joe Miller explained that Begich fails to understand either the legal issues or the reasons why the challenge has been made. Miller stated, “What is vital is that the people of Alaska can trust the election process. The Miller campaign has stated repeatedly, all we want is for all the votes to be counted in accordance with Alaska Statutes.” Contrary to Begich’s assertion, personal ambition has nothing to do with the legal issues, and such a statement “reflects a serious misunderstanding if not a complete ignorance about the election process and the issues involved. I think Begich would better serve Alaska by working on a budget that does not bankrupt our country instead of fiddling away while Rome burns,” said Miller.

Campaign spokesman Randy DeSoto added, “It should be of great concern that Mark Begich, who is so aligned with President Obama’s failed Big Government policies, feels so anxious to make sure Lisa Murkowski stands by his side in the Senate.”

Pullquote:

'I think Begich would better serve Alaska by working on a budget that does not bankrupt our country instead of fiddling away while Rome burns,” said Miller.'


23 posted on 12/08/2010 5:36:42 PM PST by SeattleBruce (We voted - NOW we fight against vote fraud! Tea Party like it's 1773! Pray 2 Chronicles 7:14!)
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To: SeattleBruce

The threads on Miller are showing less interest by FReepers=fewer comments...I am in a wait and see mode in what will happen with his court case.


24 posted on 12/08/2010 5:43:07 PM PST by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand;but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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To: Eye of Unk

Just caught this thread - does it seem to you that Miller has a chance here?

I sure hope so.

(Hope you’re doing well, too!)


25 posted on 12/08/2010 5:43:46 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point.CSLewis)
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To: SeattleBruce
And I understand the judge should rule by Friday!!!

Murky Backing DADT Repeal ...what a complete RINO...

26 posted on 12/08/2010 5:48:12 PM PST by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand;but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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To: shield

I just haven’t seen any stories lately. I’m keenly interested in getting that RINO/Independent hag out of Congress.


27 posted on 12/08/2010 5:48:32 PM PST by Politicalmom (America-The Land of the Sheep, the Home of the Caved.)
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To: Politicalmom

I have a FReeper that sends me a link to a Miller thread if she sees one.


28 posted on 12/08/2010 5:49:46 PM PST by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand;but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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To: shield

Hmm? I’ve been following it all along. The question is the scope of the voter fraud, not whether it exists.


29 posted on 12/08/2010 6:49:37 PM PST by BenKenobi (Obama's book of the month, Herman Melville's Killin' Whitey)
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To: BenKenobi

>> why didn’t he secure a majority of votes in Alaska.

The low numbers for the Democrat candidate explain that.


30 posted on 12/08/2010 7:37:03 PM PST by Gene Eric (Your Hope has been redistributed. Here's your Change.)
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To: little jeremiah

I think Miller will win.

He can win IF the election laws are followed and not “adjusted” according to the whims of the write-in candidate.

But most importantly is that Miller is what WE need, his voice here in Alaska, and for the rest of the nation. All he is and what he stands firm about is exactly what has been missing in Washington DC.

Should Murkowski manage to get her political “pony” it will only be a continuation of what we have been living under, the politics of the past, the big corporations and federal pork, the directions of her votes have been pro-Obamacare, pro Dream Act and basically anything more democratic and arguably socialistic in its definitions.


31 posted on 12/08/2010 7:41:45 PM PST by Eye of Unk (If your enemy is quick to anger, seek to irritate him. Sun Tzu, The Art of War.)
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To: Politicalmom

On another thread it is posted that the Dream Act passed, and Lisa Murkowski voted FOR it.


32 posted on 12/08/2010 7:47:02 PM PST by Eye of Unk (If your enemy is quick to anger, seek to irritate him. Sun Tzu, The Art of War.)
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To: RileyD, nwJ

So these are 5000 “found” ballots?


33 posted on 12/08/2010 7:50:22 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Islam is the religion of Satan and Mohammed was his minion.)
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To: joe fonebone; BenKenobi

I think that this particular story is about how there are approximately 5,000 ballots cast and no one knows where they came from and who the votes were for, i.e. more ballots than legal votes cast. Whether through sloppy registration at the precincts or ballot box stuffing, no one knows, probably the latter because Miller has an affidavit from a man who says that he was 10th in line as soon as the polls opened and when he went to deposit his ballot, there were “hundreds” of ballots in the box.

Looks like Murkowski got some advice from Chicago on how to properly steal an election.


34 posted on 12/08/2010 8:01:21 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Islam is the religion of Satan and Mohammed was his minion.)
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To: joe fonebone; BenKenobi

I think that this particular story is about how there are approximately 5,000 ballots cast and no one knows where they came from and who the votes were for, i.e. more ballots than legal votes cast. Whether through sloppy registration at the precincts or ballot box stuffing, no one knows, probably the latter because Miller has an affidavit from a man who says that he was 10th in line as soon as the polls opened and when he went to deposit his ballot, there were “hundreds” of ballots in the box. http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/253582/voting-irregularities-alaska-katrina-trinko

Looks like Murkowski got some advice from Chicago on how to properly steal an election.


35 posted on 12/08/2010 8:01:33 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Islam is the religion of Satan and Mohammed was his minion.)
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To: BenKenobi

I think some may have thought she has experience and seniority, why not vote for her? Also, the (minor, IMO) “scandals” that came out late in the campaign did not help him.


36 posted on 12/08/2010 8:05:14 PM PST by PghBaldy (Like the Ft Hood Killer, James Earl Ray was just stressed when he killed MLK Jr.)
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To: PghBaldy

Don’t buy into that bs...


37 posted on 12/08/2010 8:15:00 PM PST by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand;but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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To: Eye of Unk

Thank you - I was SICK that all those people in MN like the governor and the guy who was running against him (can’t remember the R’s name) just kowtowed to Franken who is a nauseating excuse for a human being.


38 posted on 12/08/2010 8:53:11 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point.CSLewis)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
As noted in post 12, the author confirmed "... there are over 5000 votes that were cast that have no indication that the voter's ID was checked. The voter rolls have an area to check on what type of ID was used. This was not done.

Cheers!

39 posted on 12/08/2010 11:35:15 PM PST by RileyD, nwJ (proud husband, father, and grandfather)
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To: Eye of Unk

More and more, in every area of life, whether the rule of law will prevail is the big unanswered “if”. The judges can pretty much do what they want, it seems, which makes the whole democratic process moot. Why did the legislators who wrote and passed the election laws in Alaska even bother to show up to work and get that law passed, if we all have to twiddle our thumbs wondering if it’ll ever be followed anyway?

That’s what the folks like Begich don’t understand. We’re talking about whether we are a country ruled by law, or ruled by men. That’s not trivial; that is the very foundation of civilization.


40 posted on 12/09/2010 4:55:58 AM PST by butterdezillion
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To: AdmSmith; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; bigheadfred; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; Delacon; ...

Thanks RileyD, nwJ.


41 posted on 12/09/2010 5:55:21 AM PST by SunkenCiv (The 2nd Amendment follows right behind the 1st because some people are hard of hearing.)
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To: Eye of Unk

On another thread it is posted that the Dream Act passed, and Lisa Murkowski voted FOR it.


It passed the House but hasn’t been voted on in the Senate. I don’t think Murkowski votes in the House.


42 posted on 12/09/2010 6:11:32 AM PST by deport
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To: All

BTTT


43 posted on 12/09/2010 6:13:23 AM PST by mickie
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To: SeattleBruce
Recently, Mark Begich issued a statement asking Joe Miller to drop his legal challenge to the election ballot issues.

Not your fight, Begich -- yours comes in 2014. So STFU.

44 posted on 12/09/2010 8:07:39 AM PST by ScottinVA (The West needs to act NOW to aggressively treat its metastasizing islaminoma!)
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To: RileyD, nwJ

5,000 unverified ballots, but what’s the current gap between Murk and Miller?


45 posted on 12/09/2010 8:09:34 AM PST by ScottinVA (The West needs to act NOW to aggressively treat its metastasizing islaminoma!)
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To: shield

Just out of curiosity, what would the official count be for the NEW senate if Joe wins? I realize this won’t change the number of Republicans in the Senate already verified but was interested in the official count for repubs, dems and independents. Also, do you know how many RINOS will still be in the Senate if Joe wins? Thanks!! ES


46 posted on 12/09/2010 12:18:56 PM PST by Evil Slayer (Onward, Christian soldiers, marching as to war)
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To: deport

CNN breaking news today said the Dream Act is dead for this year because the Senate will NOT BE VOTING ON IT.


47 posted on 12/09/2010 1:42:43 PM PST by no dems (DeMINT / PALIN 2012)
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To: Eye of Unk
somebody has to carry the water and I don't think Miller is going to play the weakling here...

I don't care if he's "damaged" goods as you say....he's doing the patriotic righteous work that millions of lazy Americans won't do:.....Stand up to the ruling class machine...

48 posted on 12/09/2010 3:13:41 PM PST by cherry
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To: joe fonebone

a clear majority did not want Cow....and a clear majority did not want the rat.....


49 posted on 12/09/2010 3:16:10 PM PST by cherry
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To: no dems

We’ll see whether they can pass a verison or not. We’ll know in a few days or less than a couple of weeks.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/12/09/senate-punts-dream-act-vote-house-passes-different-version/?test=latestnews

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid and Sen. Dick Durbin, the No. 2 Democrat in the upper chamber, said in a joint statement that they will work with House leaders and the administration to ensure that the bill, which would carve out a path to legalization for hundreds of thousands of foreign-born youngsters brought to this country illegally, will be law by the end of the lame-duck session.....

The House passed its version on Wednesday night, prompting Reid to try and shelve a different version of the bill introduced by a fellow lawmaker. But when Republicans refused to let Reid take up the House version, he effectively let the Senate kill the older version, potentially clearing the way for a DREAM Act vote on the House bill next week.

....

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50 posted on 12/09/2010 5:29:11 PM PST by deport
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