Skip to comments.Granny's $100 ticket - for throwing out newspaper
Posted on 12/08/2010 12:13:27 PM PST by Nachum
What a bunch of garbage! An elderly Manhattan woman living on Social Security was slapped with a $100 ticket -- just for throwing away a newspaper in a city trash can. Delia Gluckin, 80, tossed the paper in a bin right outside her Inwood apartment building Saturday morning, only to be ambushed by an overzealous Department of Sanitation agent wielding a handheld computertized ticket book. "I was walking to take the subway downtown and dropped it in a trash can, and this lady in a blue uniform ran up to me," Gluckin told The Post.
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The article never really explains. What is “improper refuse”.
What’s the point of having city litter baskets, if you can’t put garbage in them?
I would have ran off.
I don’t think the 80 year old lady would have gotten far...
Next time she should just throw it on the street. After all New York is already a garbage dump, one more piece won’t hurt.
“I would have ran off.”
She is 80 years old
I’m with DannyTn on this one.
How far do you have to be from your residence before you can throw something away and not have it considered personal?
This is one stupid cop using an ill defined ordinance to harrass an elderly woman.
This cop reminds me of all the ignorant TSA agents who love throwing their weight around in the name of following policy.
Wait til the mail man brings her new SS statement for 2011...she will have even LESS money.
The ‘trash cop’ would have needed surgery to remove the ‘little ticket printer’ from their anal cavity.
"Do you think that we want those laws to be observed? We want them broken. Theres no way to rule innocent men. The only power the government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there arent enough criminals one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws." --Ayn Rand, "Atlas Shrugged"
What is the fine for just tossing it into the street?
I think that if everyone just followed these simple rules we’d all be a lot better off:
Recycle so its just another opportunity to ticket a person. She literally had to find the appropriate bin or take it home and put it out with the recycling. If you walk between subway cars,som type have locked doors,others don’t,you can be ticketed. Theres a sign says no walking between cars but it doesn’t say its illegal. It could be a safety suggestion. NYC has a million way to ticket a person for revenues.
Time to get the burden off the landlords.
So we have the terms “litter”, “garbage” and “refuse” being used here. What is the legal definition of each?
I just read the article. It’s actually pretty comical.
For starters, since I am not driving, if they INSIST on writing a ticket, I just give a false name and address, while looking really sheepish and intimidated.
Second, even if I did give my correct name, it is up to them to prove what I threw away was household trash.
I thought this HAD to be the onion when I first read it.
>>Whats the point of having city litter baskets, if you cant put garbage in them?<<
Apparently their function is to increase city revenue.
The only ticket my wife had ever gotten in her life was when she was in Chicago a few decades ago. A cop had put a “no right turn” a-frame on the sidewalk at a business area intersection that she (and a lot of people) used to turn right on their way home from work, shopping, etc.
It was late at night and the sign was in shadow. She turns and, around the corner is a cop that flags her down and gives her a ticket for the turn. And then he gets the next car, and the next.
It was like a fisherman casting a net.
NO! The Sanitation cop did the right thing and should be rewarded. She finally ticketed the correct party instead of landlords who have to pay fines for what their tenants do.
Change the item. Your dog poops on the sidewalk. You leave it there. Landlord gets fined for the poop. Is this correct? Same rule applies to granny. Since she lives in NYC, is a tenant, she knows the rules.
>>This is one stupid cop using an ill defined ordinance to harrass an elderly woman.<<
You aughta see some of the traffic enforcement officers at Ohare airport. My daughter in law was slowing down behind a rental car van, trying to find a place to pick up my wife after a flight. The cop chased her down and handed her a parking ticket, even though SHE NEVER CAME TO A COMPLETE STOP.
Bloomie’s trying to collect every dime he can.
It appears that refers to someone who takes their household trash out to the curbside bins.
The officer was certainly out of line in this case. Hope the old lady beats it.
First thing to say when an officer tries to ticket you for throwing away non-toxic trash...
“Meester, you aren’t writing me up for being in this country illegally are you?”
Problem will never be reported.
They ticket the landlords?
Has a homeless person ever been fined for not picking up his poop off the sidewalk?
There was as big stink in Seattle a couple of years ago where the city was being accused of instructing the meter maids to enforce parking to the letter of the law as much as possible. They denied it, of course, but they had a hard time explaining the guy that got a ticket for leaving his lights on when he parked. :)
The really funny part was that the Rita had a hard time finding just the right thing to actually charge him with. That is because, as it played out, the city admitted that it is not illegal to park with your lights on.
I’ve said, since about 2006, that as cities get cash strapped, one effective way to increase “taxes” is to start “iron fist” enforcement of laws - speeding tickets for going one mile over, stuff like that. I’m actually surprised that it hasn’t increased all that much, or if at all, frankly.
So everyone who throws trash in the trash bins in NY streets should be fined? I don't think so.
All this lady did was throw away a newspaper. She wasn't throwing out her household trash.
Maybe you should read the article next time.
A litter is a batch of new kittens.
Garbage is what the New York Times produces daily.
Refuse is how I listen to the lies told on The Obama Show.
My Oldsmobile turns the headlights on when I use the wireless remote to open the door.
The headlights automatically come on when it is determined to be "dark" out.
The headlights remain lit for about 5 seconds after the engine has been turned off.
These trash police should open up shop on the southern border... maybe help stop the influx of illegals.
Actually, she threw out the newspaper that was inside a plastic bag. Apparently there is a problem with residents carrying their garbage out to the city litter containers. It would look like that if someone saw here carrying a bag out to the litter container.
Maybe you should read the whole article next time.
Maybe she should have thrown it in the street, thenit would be litter, then she could pick it up and place it in the litter basket.
Give ten cents worth of authority to a two cent brain and this is what you get.
I don't know about the homeless, but I do know a landlord is fined for the poop.
If the paper was a NY Times, that would qualify as trash.
Yes they do. The landlord finds the ticket in the building's vestibule and a copy through the mail. They then either choose to fight the ticket or pay for it. Depending on what's more important, wasted time or wasted money.
Imagine the fine she’d have gotten if she’d littered by dropping it on the ground. Can’t win.
Newspapers are a recyclable item. Everyone knows this.
She should’ve brought it onto the subway and left it on the seat for the next person to read. I haven’t bought a paper in years.
Next time, Granny, just quietly leave the paper on the subway.
And if she doesn't pay it in a month they send the SWAT to he door at 3 AM with flash bangs and riot guns.
She should have refused to give the woman her name, and not shown ID. I don’t believe a person walking down the street is required to carry ID or show it.
"Too many apartment dwellers use the corner litter basket as their personal household dumping site."Once again, a nice, innocent american citizen is punished because we have a law passed because TOO MANY people here behave like uncivilized anarchists.
A free society cannot last without the common decency of it's members. And we've lost that. Too many people living to get away with stuff, to cheat on their taxes, to lie, to take handouts if they are given whether they need them or not, and to just be crappy to other people.
I make many trips into Manhattan every month.
They have harsh laws that mandate all kinds of recycling be done.
Yet, while city public trash cans are ubiquitous, and the city does have public, sidewalk, paper-recycling bins, but those bins are rarely found.
The woman should counter-sue the city for not placing their own paper, public recycling bins on her block.
True, but the article doesn't say anything about her being ticketed because the item she threw away was recycleable. It implies that she was ticketed because she was throwing her household trash into the curbside bin (which she wasn't).
Are you saying you are in favor of ticketing someone if they throw away something in a curbside bin that is recycleable?
Perfect answer for why only a moron would still live in NYC.
I did. A newspaper inside a plastic bag would not look like household trash to anyone with half a brain.