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Granny's $100 ticket - for throwing out newspaper
New York Post ^ | 12/8/10 | Jessica Simeone

Posted on 12/08/2010 12:13:27 PM PST by Nachum

What a bunch of garbage! An elderly Manhattan woman living on Social Security was slapped with a $100 ticket -- just for throwing away a newspaper in a city trash can. Delia Gluckin, 80, tossed the paper in a bin right outside her Inwood apartment building Saturday morning, only to be ambushed by an overzealous Department of Sanitation agent wielding a handheld computertized ticket book. "I was walking to take the subway downtown and dropped it in a trash can, and this lady in a blue uniform ran up to me," Gluckin told The Post.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: donutwatch; grannys; greenieweenies; greenpolice; newspaper; policestate; revenuetickets; throwing; ticket
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Gotta meet their ticket quotas
1 posted on 12/08/2010 12:13:35 PM PST by Nachum
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To: Nachum
New York new york, what a wunnerful town.
2 posted on 12/08/2010 12:15:34 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: Nachum

The article never really explains. What is “improper refuse”.

What’s the point of having city litter baskets, if you can’t put garbage in them?


3 posted on 12/08/2010 12:17:01 PM PST by DannyTN
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To: Nachum

I would have ran off.


4 posted on 12/08/2010 12:20:19 PM PST by microgood
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To: microgood

I don’t think the 80 year old lady would have gotten far...


5 posted on 12/08/2010 12:21:55 PM PST by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Nachum
Maybe the lady should have voted harder 'cuz that's how you change things.

6 posted on 12/08/2010 12:22:04 PM PST by I see my hands (How's that ballot box working out for you?)
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To: Nachum

Next time she should just throw it on the street. After all New York is already a garbage dump, one more piece won’t hurt.


7 posted on 12/08/2010 12:22:46 PM PST by John O (God Save America (Please))
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To: microgood

“I would have ran off.”

She is 80 years old


8 posted on 12/08/2010 12:22:53 PM PST by bk1000 (A clear conscience is a sure sign of a poor memory)
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To: DannyTN

I’m with DannyTn on this one.

How far do you have to be from your residence before you can throw something away and not have it considered personal?

This is one stupid cop using an ill defined ordinance to harrass an elderly woman.

This cop reminds me of all the ignorant TSA agents who love throwing their weight around in the name of following policy.


9 posted on 12/08/2010 12:22:58 PM PST by RWGinger
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To: Nachum

Wait til the mail man brings her new SS statement for 2011...she will have even LESS money.


10 posted on 12/08/2010 12:24:29 PM PST by GailA (NO JESUS, NO CHRISTmas!)
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To: Nachum

The ‘trash cop’ would have needed surgery to remove the ‘little ticket printer’ from their anal cavity.


11 posted on 12/08/2010 12:25:39 PM PST by snarkbait (<<For Rent>>)
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To: Nachum
Pass enough laws, and everybody is a criminal.

"Do you think that we want those laws to be observed? We want them broken. There’s no way to rule innocent men. The only power the government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren’t enough criminals one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws." --Ayn Rand, "Atlas Shrugged"

12 posted on 12/08/2010 12:26:15 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (DEFCON I ALERT: The federal cancer has metastasized. All personnel report to their battle stations.)
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To: Nachum

What is the fine for just tossing it into the street?


13 posted on 12/08/2010 12:28:09 PM PST by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: Nachum

I think that if everyone just followed these simple rules we’d all be a lot better off:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SC3CZBDz7Wg


14 posted on 12/08/2010 12:28:27 PM PST by RobRoy (The US Today: Revelation 18:4)
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To: DannyTN

Recycle so its just another opportunity to ticket a person. She literally had to find the appropriate bin or take it home and put it out with the recycling. If you walk between subway cars,som type have locked doors,others don’t,you can be ticketed. Theres a sign says no walking between cars but it doesn’t say its illegal. It could be a safety suggestion. NYC has a million way to ticket a person for revenues.


15 posted on 12/08/2010 12:29:42 PM PST by wiggen (The teacher card. When the racism card just won't work.)
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To: Nachum
The old granny should have known better where to throw her garbage. I'm glad she got ticketed. I hope from now on all pedestrians will get fined. They should pay for what they asked for.

Time to get the burden off the landlords.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2639318/posts?page=33

16 posted on 12/08/2010 12:31:16 PM PST by 1_Rain_Drop
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To: Nachum

So we have the terms “litter”, “garbage” and “refuse” being used here. What is the legal definition of each?


17 posted on 12/08/2010 12:32:59 PM PST by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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To: DannyTN

I just read the article. It’s actually pretty comical.

For starters, since I am not driving, if they INSIST on writing a ticket, I just give a false name and address, while looking really sheepish and intimidated.

Second, even if I did give my correct name, it is up to them to prove what I threw away was household trash.

I thought this HAD to be the onion when I first read it.


18 posted on 12/08/2010 12:33:00 PM PST by RobRoy (The US Today: Revelation 18:4)
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To: DannyTN

>>What’s the point of having city litter baskets, if you can’t put garbage in them?<<

Apparently their function is to increase city revenue.

The only ticket my wife had ever gotten in her life was when she was in Chicago a few decades ago. A cop had put a “no right turn” a-frame on the sidewalk at a business area intersection that she (and a lot of people) used to turn right on their way home from work, shopping, etc.

It was late at night and the sign was in shadow. She turns and, around the corner is a cop that flags her down and gives her a ticket for the turn. And then he gets the next car, and the next.

It was like a fisherman casting a net.


19 posted on 12/08/2010 12:37:19 PM PST by RobRoy (The US Today: Revelation 18:4)
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To: snarkbait
"The ‘trash cop’ would have needed surgery to remove the ‘little ticket printer’ from their anal cavity."

NO! The Sanitation cop did the right thing and should be rewarded. She finally ticketed the correct party instead of landlords who have to pay fines for what their tenants do.

Change the item. Your dog poops on the sidewalk. You leave it there. Landlord gets fined for the poop. Is this correct? Same rule applies to granny. Since she lives in NYC, is a tenant, she knows the rules.

20 posted on 12/08/2010 12:37:25 PM PST by 1_Rain_Drop
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To: RWGinger

>>This is one stupid cop using an ill defined ordinance to harrass an elderly woman.<<

You aughta see some of the traffic enforcement officers at Ohare airport. My daughter in law was slowing down behind a rental car van, trying to find a place to pick up my wife after a flight. The cop chased her down and handed her a parking ticket, even though SHE NEVER CAME TO A COMPLETE STOP.


21 posted on 12/08/2010 12:39:23 PM PST by RobRoy (The US Today: Revelation 18:4)
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To: Nachum

Bloomie’s trying to collect every dime he can.


22 posted on 12/08/2010 12:43:11 PM PST by samtheman
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To: DannyTN
What is “improper refuse”.

It appears that refers to someone who takes their household trash out to the curbside bins.

The officer was certainly out of line in this case. Hope the old lady beats it.

23 posted on 12/08/2010 12:44:16 PM PST by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: Nachum; The Comedian

First thing to say when an officer tries to ticket you for throwing away non-toxic trash...

“Meester, you aren’t writing me up for being in this country illegally are you?”

Problem will never be reported.


24 posted on 12/08/2010 12:44:39 PM PST by a fool in paradise (The establishment clause isn't just against my OWN government establishing state religion in America)
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To: 1_Rain_Drop

They ticket the landlords?


25 posted on 12/08/2010 12:45:41 PM PST by rwfromkansas ("Carve your name on hearts, not marble." - C.H. Spurgeon)
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To: 1_Rain_Drop
Change the item. Your dog poops on the sidewalk. You leave it there. Landlord gets fined for the poop. Is this correct?

Has a homeless person ever been fined for not picking up his poop off the sidewalk?

26 posted on 12/08/2010 12:46:07 PM PST by a fool in paradise (The establishment clause isn't just against my OWN government establishing state religion in America)
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To: samtheman

There was as big stink in Seattle a couple of years ago where the city was being accused of instructing the meter maids to enforce parking to the letter of the law as much as possible. They denied it, of course, but they had a hard time explaining the guy that got a ticket for leaving his lights on when he parked. :)

The really funny part was that the Rita had a hard time finding just the right thing to actually charge him with. That is because, as it played out, the city admitted that it is not illegal to park with your lights on.

I’ve said, since about 2006, that as cities get cash strapped, one effective way to increase “taxes” is to start “iron fist” enforcement of laws - speeding tickets for going one mile over, stuff like that. I’m actually surprised that it hasn’t increased all that much, or if at all, frankly.


27 posted on 12/08/2010 12:47:18 PM PST by RobRoy (The US Today: Revelation 18:4)
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To: 1_Rain_Drop
NO! The Sanitation cop did the right thing and should be rewarded. She finally ticketed the correct party instead of landlords who have to pay fines for what their tenants do.

So everyone who throws trash in the trash bins in NY streets should be fined? I don't think so.

All this lady did was throw away a newspaper. She wasn't throwing out her household trash.

Maybe you should read the article next time.

28 posted on 12/08/2010 12:48:21 PM PST by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius
So we have the terms “litter”, “garbage” and “refuse” being used here. What is the legal definition of each?

A litter is a batch of new kittens.

Garbage is what the New York Times produces daily.

Refuse is how I listen to the lies told on The Obama Show.

29 posted on 12/08/2010 12:48:38 PM PST by a fool in paradise (The establishment clause isn't just against my OWN government establishing state religion in America)
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To: RobRoy
That is because, as it played out, the city admitted that it is not illegal to park with your lights on.

My Oldsmobile turns the headlights on when I use the wireless remote to open the door.

The headlights automatically come on when it is determined to be "dark" out.

The headlights remain lit for about 5 seconds after the engine has been turned off.

30 posted on 12/08/2010 12:50:42 PM PST by a fool in paradise (The establishment clause isn't just against my OWN government establishing state religion in America)
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To: DannyTN
What’s the point of having city litter baskets, if you can’t put garbage in them?
From the article:I can understand the city wanting to stop that.
On the other hand, the "meter maid" should have allowed her to remove the paper. No harm, no foul.
31 posted on 12/08/2010 12:52:04 PM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: Nachum
NYC... where no job is too small.

These trash police should open up shop on the southern border... maybe help stop the influx of illegals.

32 posted on 12/08/2010 12:53:29 PM PST by Trajan88 (www.bullittclub.com)
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To: MEGoody
All this lady did was throw away a newspaper. She wasn't throwing out her household trash. Maybe you should read the article next time.

Actually, she threw out the newspaper that was inside a plastic bag. Apparently there is a problem with residents carrying their garbage out to the city litter containers. It would look like that if someone saw here carrying a bag out to the litter container.

Maybe you should read the whole article next time.

33 posted on 12/08/2010 12:54:03 PM PST by SeeSac
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius

Maybe she should have thrown it in the street, thenit would be litter, then she could pick it up and place it in the litter basket.

Give ten cents worth of authority to a two cent brain and this is what you get.


34 posted on 12/08/2010 12:54:37 PM PST by Venturer
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To: a fool in paradise
"Has a homeless person ever been fined for not picking up his poop off the sidewalk?"

I don't know about the homeless, but I do know a landlord is fined for the poop.

35 posted on 12/08/2010 12:55:09 PM PST by 1_Rain_Drop
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To: Nachum

If the paper was a NY Times, that would qualify as trash.


36 posted on 12/08/2010 12:57:53 PM PST by Mark (Don't argue with my posts. I typed while under sniper fire..)
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To: rwfromkansas
"They ticket the landlords?"

Yes they do. The landlord finds the ticket in the building's vestibule and a copy through the mail. They then either choose to fight the ticket or pay for it. Depending on what's more important, wasted time or wasted money.

37 posted on 12/08/2010 12:58:36 PM PST by 1_Rain_Drop
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To: Nachum

Imagine the fine she’d have gotten if she’d littered by dropping it on the ground. Can’t win.


38 posted on 12/08/2010 12:59:20 PM PST by bgill (K Parliament- how could a young man born in Kenya who is not even a native American become the POTUS)
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To: MEGoody
"All this lady did was throw away a newspaper. She wasn't throwing out her household trash."

Newspapers are a recyclable item. Everyone knows this.

39 posted on 12/08/2010 1:00:50 PM PST by 1_Rain_Drop
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To: Nachum

She should’ve brought it onto the subway and left it on the seat for the next person to read. I haven’t bought a paper in years.


40 posted on 12/08/2010 1:06:06 PM PST by Oratam
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To: Nachum

Next time, Granny, just quietly leave the paper on the subway.


41 posted on 12/08/2010 1:09:00 PM PST by Arthur McGowan (In Edward Kennedy's America, federal funding of brothels is a right, not a privilege.)
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And if I don't pay in 10 days, they up it to $300."

And if she doesn't pay it in a month they send the SWAT to he door at 3 AM with flash bangs and riot guns.

42 posted on 12/08/2010 1:18:35 PM PST by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's "Economics In One Lesson.")
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To: microgood

Run.


43 posted on 12/08/2010 1:19:10 PM PST by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's "Economics In One Lesson.")
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To: Nachum

She should have refused to give the woman her name, and not shown ID. I don’t believe a person walking down the street is required to carry ID or show it.


44 posted on 12/08/2010 1:30:43 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Nachum
"Too many apartment dwellers use the corner litter basket as their personal household dumping site."
Once again, a nice, innocent american citizen is punished because we have a law passed because TOO MANY people here behave like uncivilized anarchists.

A free society cannot last without the common decency of it's members. And we've lost that. Too many people living to get away with stuff, to cheat on their taxes, to lie, to take handouts if they are given whether they need them or not, and to just be crappy to other people.

45 posted on 12/08/2010 1:34:44 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Nachum

I make many trips into Manhattan every month.

They have harsh laws that mandate all kinds of recycling be done.

Yet, while city public trash cans are ubiquitous, and the city does have public, sidewalk, paper-recycling bins, but those bins are rarely found.

The woman should counter-sue the city for not placing their own paper, public recycling bins on her block.


46 posted on 12/08/2010 1:39:25 PM PST by Wuli
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To: arthurus
Run.

You are right. My bad.
47 posted on 12/08/2010 1:44:02 PM PST by microgood
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To: 1_Rain_Drop
Newspapers are a recyclable item. Everyone knows this.

True, but the article doesn't say anything about her being ticketed because the item she threw away was recycleable. It implies that she was ticketed because she was throwing her household trash into the curbside bin (which she wasn't).

Are you saying you are in favor of ticketing someone if they throw away something in a curbside bin that is recycleable?

48 posted on 12/08/2010 1:51:27 PM PST by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: 1_Rain_Drop

Perfect answer for why only a moron would still live in NYC.


49 posted on 12/08/2010 1:51:43 PM PST by snarkbait (<<For Rent>>)
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To: SeeSac
Maybe you should read the whole article next time.

I did. A newspaper inside a plastic bag would not look like household trash to anyone with half a brain.

50 posted on 12/08/2010 1:52:59 PM PST by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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