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Scientists deliver message to NJ Gov. Chris Christie: Climate change is real and it is man-made
northjersey.com ^ | 12.07.10 | MATT FRIEDMAN

Posted on 12/08/2010 3:59:15 PM PST by Coleus

Three Rutgers University scientists came to Trenton Tuesday to give Governor Christie a message: climate change is real, and it's man-made.  The State House forum, sponsored by several environmental groups, was held in response to Christie's recent comments at a Toms River town hall that he is skeptical that global warming results from human activity. "I've heard over 100 different arguments about why we shouldn’t accept global warming. They're all fallacious and I'd be happy to point out the errors in any of them," said Rutgers professor Alan Robock, a meteorologist.

Responding to a question at the town hall last month, Christie -- a rising star in the Republican Party -- said was "skeptical" that climate change is man made and "more science" is needed to prove it. "I wondered whether he was telling the truth or not. Whether he really was confused or if he was saying what the Republican Party wanted him to say," said Robock. The scientists invited Christie to the event and offered to meet with him publicly. Environment New Jersey Executive Director Dena Mottola Jaborska said they did not hear back, but the Christie administration sent two officials -- assistant counsel Robert Marshall and policy advisor Tricia Caliguire -- to report back to the governor.

Paul Falkowski, director of the Rutgers University Energy Institute, said global warming doubts are based on politics and personal beliefs, not science. "There is no honest argument against human climate change. The issues now rely primarily on political dialogue on how we're going to move this country forward," he said. Falkowski said he was encouraged when Christie said he wanted to make New Jersey more energy efficient, but that his policy decisions, such as hiking mass transit fares while refusing to raise the state's 14.5 cent gas tax is "the wrong message to be sending."


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; US: New Jersey
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To: Coleus

The climate changes everyday and has since the beginning of time and will continue to do so regardless of what a bunch of scientists want.


21 posted on 12/08/2010 4:13:35 PM PST by SECURE AMERICA
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To: Michael Barnes

It shouldn’t matter to a governor one way or another. NJ is still broke and needs to fix it’s own problems before it tackles the planet. Same for all the other states..first things first. We may not survive as a country and a free society, long before the ocean is lapping at the state house steps.
I wish the CA governor was of the same mind..the state is spending money and making rules to save the planet while the state is broke..


22 posted on 12/08/2010 4:14:24 PM PST by Oldexpat
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To: Coleus

"Hello. I'm Alan Robock, an Environmental Scientist, and I'm here to tell you that you must not argue with scientists like me. Because we get paid big research grants to lie to our students and skeptics like you.

23 posted on 12/08/2010 4:14:30 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius.)
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To: Coleus

But of course climate change is very real and I think that we can all agree that it’s cold at night and warm during the day in most places.


24 posted on 12/08/2010 4:14:54 PM PST by seawolf101
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To: Coleus

Let’s say these scientists are correct and suspend the dissenting ones.

Can they say that 1,000 years from now; the warming we perpetrated was for the better or worse? Of course not.

Said warming may be forestalling a catastrophic ice age, or it may be forestalling even more severe catastrophic warming. They don’t know and can never know. The system is too complex.

When they can start predicting say rainfall or cloud cover in Central Park in NY, on a given day; a year in advance; I’ll pay attention.


25 posted on 12/08/2010 4:18:09 PM PST by cicero2k
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To: Coleus
Suppose global warming is "real" and that it is "man made". Are these clowns really suggesting that the phenomenon is caused by a 14.5 cent gasoline tax in New Jersey?

Also, is it good or bad? Last I checked, warmth was beneficial to life. People save for years to be in Hawaii or the Caribbean for a week. Siberia and the Yukon? Not so much.
26 posted on 12/08/2010 4:18:50 PM PST by Question Liberal Authority (Worst. Post-Racial. And Post-Partisan. Agent Of Hope And Change. EVER.)
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To: Frantzie

Any “scientists” dumb enough to live in Jersey “can’t” be that smart.

Change “scientists” to “Anybody”


27 posted on 12/08/2010 4:20:51 PM PST by Renegade
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To: Michael Barnes
All the mean CO2 we humans are belching out...

Come to think of it: has there ever been any independently-verified inventory of the total amount of CO2 emitted by human sources, and a demonstration that it accounts for the increase in atmospheric CO2? I've never come across any; all I've ever seen is the assumption that it "had" to have come from human activity. One AGW loon I confronted on this point merely snarled back at me. No factual backup; not even an attempt at factual backup.

Word from the wised-up: "where else could it have come from?" = "I'm not willing to do my job."

(No wonder they try that ploy. Here I am, doing part of a peer-reviewer's job for free.)

28 posted on 12/08/2010 4:23:15 PM PST by danielmryan
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To: Coleus

Thank God Governor Christie has his cabinet-level science liaison Prof. Irwin Corey at his side to help explain this topic’s finer technical points...


29 posted on 12/08/2010 4:24:03 PM PST by doyle
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To: Oldexpat
Oh, AGREED!

I just wish more Governor's would spell it out like you and back it up with how much is not factored into the "debate"

Al Gore can go screw himself, the debate is NOT over.

30 posted on 12/08/2010 4:24:03 PM PST by Michael Barnes (Guilty of being White.)
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To: Renegade

LOL! Great one.


31 posted on 12/08/2010 4:34:12 PM PST by Frantzie (Imam Ob*m* & Democrats support the VICTORY MOSQUE & TV supports Imam)
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To: Renegade

“Any “scientists” dumb enough to live in Jersey “can’t” be that smart.

Change “scientists” to “Anybody””

Double dittos to that... and I lived most of my life there (unfortunately).


32 posted on 12/08/2010 4:36:15 PM PST by Pravious
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To: Coleus

It would be great if Christie invited them to a public hearing and asked them questions.

Questions like, “If all the Human CO2 Emissions that were emitted by modern industrial production and still persisting in the atmosphere as a percentage of the total atmosphere were represented as scoops of sugar you need to remove from one pound sack of sugar, would you be able to remove the same percentage from the sack with standard kitchen measuring devices?”


33 posted on 12/08/2010 4:38:39 PM PST by dila813
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To: Cicero

Yet another “Genius”.

I have about 5 of them as neighbors.


34 posted on 12/08/2010 4:44:23 PM PST by mowowie
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To: Coleus

People tell scientist go suck it, you couldn’t solve it anyway, stay out of my wallet you arrogant basta%$#..


35 posted on 12/08/2010 4:49:05 PM PST by aces
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To: dila813; Coleus; Renegade; Oldexpat

Really ??

You know what would be REALLY great ??

How about if Governor Christie backed his words with ACTIONS....

Like pulling New Jersey out of the Regional Greenhouse Gas Initiative. THAT would be something !!

Until he starts walking the walk, HE is all hot air !

But no, methinks he likes that 60+ million NJ rakes in EACH YEAR.


36 posted on 12/08/2010 4:51:05 PM PST by onona (dbada)
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To: Coleus

Humans causing globulllwarming is like Hussein peeing in the ocean to cause globul flooding!
ITS THE SUN and SUNSPOTS!!!


37 posted on 12/08/2010 4:54:04 PM PST by Leo Carpathian (fffffFRrrreeeeepppeeee-ssed!)
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To: onona

Having the conversation so he can undress them in public would allow him to politically to take that action.

If he does it without this conversation, they just label him anti-science again.


38 posted on 12/08/2010 4:58:17 PM PST by dila813
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To: dila813
Questions like, “If all the Human CO2 Emissions that were emitted by modern industrial production and still persisting in the atmosphere as a percentage of the total atmosphere were represented as scoops of sugar you need to remove from one pound sack of sugar, would you be able to remove the same percentage from the sack with standard kitchen measuring devices?”

I have heard this question before and it was answered kind of. The amount of CO2 emitted by man to the atmosphere in 2006 if we were to think about it in terms of a liquid would be one and half drops out of an eye dropper into an Olympic sized swimming pool. Tell that to your liberal friends, let them tell you how reducing it to 1 drop would change the composition of the pool water. See how silly it is, how insane the line of reasoning is "To do something" just to do something. This whole scheme was cooked up by the European Greens in the early 1990's as another way to package socialism, cause it wasn't selling as naked Socialism. I mean who could be against the earth right? They are in retreat on this and scrambling around for the shriveling grant money as this farce dies. Watch the Jesse Ventura show Conspiracy Theory on this subject, the cast of characters at the top of this fraud, its goals, how they bought up all the liberal science departments and how many good scientists sold their soul to this new religion.

39 posted on 12/08/2010 5:04:00 PM PST by pburgh01
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To: onona

What I want to know is where the hell all the toll road money goes that is collected on the Parkway and Expressway?

AND, I still think Christie is Obama in a white suit !


40 posted on 12/08/2010 5:06:11 PM PST by Renegade
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