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Breaking: House Passes "Dream Act"

Posted on 12/08/2010 6:22:20 PM PST by Skeez

House passes immigration bill known as "Dream Act" 216 to 198


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 111th; amnesty2; deamact; dreamact; illegals; moredemvoters
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To: Skeez

This is insane!


51 posted on 12/08/2010 6:53:20 PM PST by apocalypto
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To: CAluvdubya

When I was a kid, I had a deadbeat dad. No one gave me ANYTHING. I earned my way through school, attended community college to start. I married a soldier, and we have worked for everything we have. Nothing was EVER guaranteed to me ever in life.

And now these punks whose parents brought them here illegaly will receive free in-state tuition, every aid, and acceptance into our military w/ additional benefits to them and their dependents ...and believe me, they will MILK that as well.

And the benefits of citizenship to those whose foundation in this country was built on breaking the law. And believe this — NONE of them are interested in the rule of law, or in contributing anything to this country. They are here to do what they’ve always done: take, take, take.

They make me sick. And our disgusting representatives in this Congress also make me sick. Such traitors to America this country has EVER known!!!


52 posted on 12/08/2010 6:54:00 PM PST by LibsRJerks
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To: Skeez

Where do things stand in the Senate vote wise for cloture and a possible final vote. When does the lame duck session end?


53 posted on 12/08/2010 6:54:05 PM PST by Comparative Advantage
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To: cripplecreek
Spoken like a true liberal.

I'm about as "liberal" as Attila the Hun. For the past twenty years the federal government and the general population has looked the other way as millions of folks have entered this country for jobs. That's because the employers, and you, needed their services. Now that the worm has turned, suddenly the federal government is building 2500 bed immigration detention facilities and everyone on FR is screaming "deport them all"....in the middle of this mess is a bunch of kids...no different from yours....who came here when they were 2 (or 4, or 6, etc) holding their momma's hand who are now 20 and just want a chance to become a regular person....they want a drivers license and a job. Many would join our military and fight for this country....you would deny them that chance. Back to "liberal"...I would change our immigration laws back to the 1964 version if I were in charge....European based immigration, and keep America a Western Culture....but these kids deserve a chance.

54 posted on 12/08/2010 6:54:43 PM PST by northwinds
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To: Maverick68

I do believe you are correct regarding “northwinds”.


55 posted on 12/08/2010 6:55:06 PM PST by ataDude (Its like 1933, mixed with the Carter 70s, plus the books 1984 and Animal Farm, all at the same time.)
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To: blueyon
You know the Senate will pass it...

I don't know. Reid planned to have the vote today, then decided to let the House vote first, probably because he didn't have the votes. It'll be close, and many commentators have been saying it has no chance, but I've never quite been that confident. There are six or eight Dims who are up in 2012 who won't be as reliable to Reid and Obama as during the past two years.

56 posted on 12/08/2010 6:55:24 PM PST by Will88
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To: Skeez
"Republicans" who voted YEA:

Cao
Castle
Diaz-Balart, L.
Diaz-Balart, M.
Djou
Ehlers
Inglis
Ros-Lehtinen

Mike Castle was one of only 3 gringos to vote for this monstrosity

57 posted on 12/08/2010 6:55:50 PM PST by montag813 (http://www.facebook.com/StandWithArizona)
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To: Americanexpat

The DREAM act appears to have a pretty minimal set of requirments.


58 posted on 12/08/2010 6:55:52 PM PST by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: northwinds
Huh? Didn't you post the following?

Sunday, November 14, 2010 5:48:22 PM · 100 of 198 northwinds to La Enchiladita

Reminds me of last week in the grocery store line.....a young hispanic couple in front of me had two carts loaded with groceries and were paying for it with food stamps. They were laughing, speaking in Spanish, and grabbing on each other the whole time as the clerk had to negotiate the food stamp voucher process. Not to mention that the guy had on a “Mexico” t-shirt. Their last item was dog food...which they had to pay for with cash. When it was my turn, I looked at the cashier and said “I guess I paid for those groceries and mine tonight”....her response was “you got that right”. And because this is played out over and over in America I will not get my money back from social security when I turn 62 after working and contributing for forty years...and I’m not supposed to be angry about that?

First you bitch and NOW you want to make their children citizens? You're not impressing anyone here. You're full of it.

sw

59 posted on 12/08/2010 6:56:22 PM PST by spectre (Spectre's wife)
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To: Skeez

How long before the 1st shots of CWII? It ought to be a capital offense to vote for this piece of crap.


60 posted on 12/08/2010 6:56:34 PM PST by backwoods-engineer (And what happened to my tagline? Erased?)
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To: ak267
The Communists had to pass Amnesty and Hellcare otherwise they would cease to exist as a party.

Mexico, a third world poverty crime-ridden sh!t hole of a country......COME ON DOWN!!!

We don't have enough of you illiterate criminal scumbag wetback beaners here to destroy America.....we need more.


61 posted on 12/08/2010 6:57:09 PM PST by Electric Graffiti (I'm armed and Amish.)
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To: northwinds

I’m not impressed with your “moderation”


62 posted on 12/08/2010 6:57:38 PM PST by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: ataDude

It is our politicians, not our country, that we should be ashamed of. Stay strong.


63 posted on 12/08/2010 6:57:49 PM PST by maxter (Sarah 2012.... just for the halibut.)
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To: darkwing104
Nothing like giving them more rights than most American kids...This is about votes, not compassion and guess who they are going to vote for

I guess you missed the fact that it was the Hispanic Cubans in Dade County, Florida that won the election for 'W'....LMAO.

64 posted on 12/08/2010 6:58:21 PM PST by northwinds
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To: montag813

“Republicans” who voted YEA:
Cao
Castle
Diaz-Balart, L.
Diaz-Balart, M.
Djou
Ehlers
Inglis
Ros-Lehtinen

I don’t know Ehlers or much about Djou, but the rest are no surprise...actually expected. Why is Inglis so liberal on illegal immigration?


65 posted on 12/08/2010 6:58:43 PM PST by Comparative Advantage
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To: northwinds

We’re not talking about “kids”...apparently you haven’t been paying attention


66 posted on 12/08/2010 6:59:16 PM PST by Maverick68
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To: northwinds

Not the point. They’re ILLEGAL! What part of that don’t you understand? The 14th. Amendment dealt with Black slaves having kids in the free states. Nothing to do with illegals having kids in the US to become automatic citizens.


67 posted on 12/08/2010 6:59:21 PM PST by ReverendJames (Only a lawyer and a painter can change black to white)
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To: northwinds
I guess you missed the fact that it was the Hispanic Cubans in Dade County, Florida that won the election for 'W'....LMAO.

The same ones who vated for Obama?


68 posted on 12/08/2010 7:00:07 PM PST by darkwing104 (Lets get dangerous)
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To: northwinds
That's because the employers, and you, needed their services.

bs... how arrogant of you to lump everybody into this... no i have not needed their services...

69 posted on 12/08/2010 7:00:24 PM PST by latina4dubya ( self-proclaimed tequila snob)
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To: northwinds
we have bigger problems....like China and the deficit...but that’s a little more complicated than hating on the Hispanic kids isn’t it?

I'm calling you out as a liberal infiltrator to this site. You said on another thread about the DREAM Act, that "the House did the right thing..."

You obviously don't understand the true gravity of this vote, or how the DREAM Act will open the door to millions upon millions of illegals being amnestied in the near future.

70 posted on 12/08/2010 7:00:28 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: northwinds
Geez....worrying about a bunch of kids who came here when they were 2 (or 5, or 7, or 9)....

Read what the bill REALLY PROVIDES, not the pablum put out by the media! Do you believe in Santa Claus as well??? Hopefully the Senate will bury this monstrosity!

71 posted on 12/08/2010 7:00:53 PM PST by ExSES (the "bottom-line")
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To: Skeez

http://www.speaker.gov/blog/?p=3227

DREAM Act Passes 216-198

December 8th, 2010 by Karina

“Tonight, the House passed the DREAM Act by a vote of 216-198”:


72 posted on 12/08/2010 7:01:09 PM PST by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one.)
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To: latina4dubya

Same here. I mow my own lawn.


73 posted on 12/08/2010 7:01:37 PM PST by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: panthermom
You can claim your amnesty up until the age of 30 and you only have to be here for 5 yrs. so you are eligible if you came here when you were 25. Also all you have to do is enroll for 1 class!!!

Not only that, dear panthermom...all they have to do is CLAIM to have been here for five years, CLAIM to have enrolled in one class, CLAIM to have come here before age 16, or whatever. Who's going to check up on them? Who's going to prove whether they're lying or telling the truth? No one. That would be "insensitive" and "racist." They'll just be taken at their word! There will be a run for the border now as millions more try to get in on the gravy train!

74 posted on 12/08/2010 7:02:04 PM PST by Nea Wood (Silly liberal . . . paychecks are for workers!)
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To: montag813

Ros-Lehtinen

Now that’s surprising and disappointing.
She’s such an anti-Castro, pro Cuban
blockade advocate, I wouldn’t have
thought she’d do this.

Guess it’s in the blood .. dang.


75 posted on 12/08/2010 7:03:24 PM PST by STARWISE (The overlords are in place .. we are a nation under siege .. pray, go Galt & hunker down)
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To: spectre
First you bitch and NOW you want to make their children citizens? You're not impressing anyone here. You're full of it..

I am not anymore happy when I see a deadbeat black or white family using food stamps....that doesn't mean I want their children's lives to be destroyed....if these "Dream Act" kids are bad apples then deport their arses...if not give them a chance...that's the American way.

76 posted on 12/08/2010 7:03:27 PM PST by northwinds
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To: Nosterrex
It has to go before the Senate, and it will be dead on arrival.

Please help the rest of us to understand why you feel so confident that this will not pass the Senate. A lot of us need a bit of reassurance at the moment.

77 posted on 12/08/2010 7:03:51 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: northwinds
if these "Dream Act" kids are bad apples then deport their arses...if not give them a chance...that's the American way.

THEN THEY CAN GET IN BACK OF THE LINE FOR LEGAL IMMIGRATION! We have enough problems without MORE mouths to feed!

78 posted on 12/08/2010 7:04:56 PM PST by backwoods-engineer (And what happened to my tagline? Erased?)
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To: ought-six

Your objection is why of cloture passes, the next thing the Senate GOP has to do is offer a floor amendment forbidding consideration of DREAM Act beneficiaries in the application of family-reunification immigration laws or regulations.

It might not work, but if such an amendment passes and makes it into the final bill, it renders it far less objectionable both legally and morally: a DREAM Act with a cut-off to prevent chain migration/legalization of its beneficiaries would really be about not visiting the crimes of parents on their children. As it is, it’s a stealth general amnesty. If it can’t be stopped by a filibuster in the Senate, at least we need to make the ‘Rats and RINOs go on record as wanting it to be a stealth general amnesty, by giving an alternative that does what they purport to want from the act without being a stealth general amnesty.

Such an amendment passing in the Senate might also scuttle the whole thing in conference.


79 posted on 12/08/2010 7:06:35 PM PST by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
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To: darkwing104
The same ones who vated for Obama?

If you don't understand that the Cubans in Dade County, Florida put 'W' into the White House then you are not a student of history....or even have a clue as to politics

80 posted on 12/08/2010 7:07:13 PM PST by northwinds
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To: northwinds
.who came here when they were 2 (or 4, or 6, etc) holding their momma's hand who are now 20 and just want a chance to become a regular person..

They can be a regular person in Meh-Hee-Co, maybe they could even help to improve the standard of living in that God-Forsaken country, with the education they obtained here.

81 posted on 12/08/2010 7:08:36 PM PST by dfwgator (Congratulations to Josh Hamilton - AL MVP)
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To: Comparative Advantage
I don’t know Ehlers or much about Djou

Ehlers is a retiring 'moderate'. Djou was beaten in Nov but trying to keep his electoral future alive in Hawai'i.

Why is Inglis so liberal on illegal immigration?

Inglis stated that since his return to Congress he's been voting what he believes, thus moderate to liberal. Ever since he got crushed in the primary this year he's been hell-bent on embracing his inner socialist. He'll probably head up Republicans for Obama in 2012.

82 posted on 12/08/2010 7:09:07 PM PST by Crichton
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To: northwinds
I guess you missed the fact that it was the Hispanic Cubans in Dade County, Florida that won the election for 'W'....LMAO.

I guess you agree with Bush when he wanted to create "a new America"? How is what Bush wanted to do any different than what Obama, Reid and Pelosi are trying to do?

We are now one of the largest Spanish-speaking nations in the world. We're a major source of Latin music, journalism and culture.

Just go to Miami, or San Antonio, Los Angeles, Chicago or West New York, New Jersey ... and close your eyes and listen. You could just as easily be in Santo Domingo or Santiago, or San Miguel de Allende.

For years our nation has debated this change -- some have praised it and others have resented it. By nominating me, my party has made a choice to welcome the new America.

Our future cannot be separated from the future of Latin America.

As I speak, we are celebrating the success of democracy in Mexico.

George Bush from a campaign speech in Miami, August 2000.

You can read the speech here.

Here is an excerpt of a good critique of that speech:

In equating our intimate historic bonds to our mother country and to Canada with our ties to Mexico, W. shows a staggering ignorance of the civilizational facts of life. The reason we are so close to Britain and Canada is that we share with them a common historical culture, language, literature, and legal system, as well as similar standards of behavior, expectations of public officials, and so on. My Bush Epiphany By Lawrence Auster

83 posted on 12/08/2010 7:09:54 PM PST by raybbr (Someone who invades another country is NOT an immigrant - illegal or otherwise.)
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To: northwinds
You really like the abuse, don't you?

Because you CANNOT be serious with the cliched garbage you're posting.

10 % unemployment, a deficit in the trillions, a welfare state out of control, an exploding ethnic voting block that goes 60% democrat. I know - lets legalize 5 or 6 million more illegal mouths to feed. And their parents.

Really, I thought we ran all the open border ninnies & lawbreaking employers off this site.

84 posted on 12/08/2010 7:10:57 PM PST by skeeter
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To: Skeez
FINAL VOTE RESULTS FOR ROLL CALL 625
(Democrats in roman; Republicans in italic; Independents underlined)

H R 5281 YEA-AND-NAY 8-Dec-2010 9:01 PM
QUESTION: On Motion to Concur in Senate Amendments #1 and #2, and in #3 With Amendment
BILL TITLE: To amend title 28, United States Code, to clarify and improve certain provisions relating to the removal of litigation against Federal officers or agencies to Federal courts, and for other purposes

Yeas Nays PRES NV
Democratic 208 38 9
Republican 8 160 11
Independent
TOTALS 216 198 20


---- YEAS 216 ---

Ackerman
Adler (NJ)
Andrews
Baca
Baldwin
Bean
Becerra
Berkley
Berman
Bishop (GA)
Bishop (NY)
Blumenauer
Boswell
Boyd
Brady (PA)
Braley (IA)
Brown, Corrine
Butterfield
Cao
Capps
Capuano
Cardoza
Carnahan
Carson (IN)
Castle
Castor (FL)
Chu
Clarke
Clay
Cleaver
Clyburn
Connolly (VA)
Conyers
Cooper
Costa
Courtney
Crowley
Cuellar
Cummings
Davis (AL)
Davis (CA)
Davis (IL)
Davis (TN)
DeFazio
DeGette
DeLauro
Deutch
Diaz-Balart, L.
Diaz-Balart, M.
Dicks
Dingell
Djou
Doggett
Doyle
Driehaus
Edwards (MD)
Edwards (TX)
Ehlers
Ellison
Engel
Eshoo
Etheridge
Farr
Fattah
Filner
Foster
Frank (MA)
Fudge
Garamendi
Giffords
Gonzalez
Gordon (TN)
Grayson
Green, Al
Green, Gene
Grijalva
Gutierrez
Hall (NY)
Halvorson
Hare
Harman
Hastings (FL)
Heinrich
Herseth Sandlin
Hill
Himes
Hinchey
Hinojosa
Hirono
Hodes
Holt
Honda
Hoyer
Inglis
Inslee
Israel
Jackson (IL)
Jackson Lee (TX)
Johnson (GA)
Johnson, E. B.
Kagen
Kennedy
Kildee
Kilroy
Kind
Klein (FL)
Kosmas
Kucinich
Langevin
Larsen (WA)
Larson (CT)
Lee (CA)
Levin
Lewis (GA)
Loebsack
Lofgren, Zoe
Lowey
Luján
Lynch
Maffei
Maloney
Markey (CO)
Markey (MA)
Matsui
McCarthy (NY)
McCollum
McDermott
McGovern
McMahon
McNerney
Meek (FL)
Meeks (NY)
Melancon
Michaud
Miller (NC)
Miller, George
Minnick
Mitchell
Moore (KS)
Moore (WI)
Moran (VA)
Murphy (CT)
Murphy (NY)
Nadler (NY)
Napolitano
Neal (MA)
Oberstar
Obey
Olver
Ortiz
Pallone
Pascrell
Pastor (AZ)
Payne
Pelosi
Perlmutter
Perriello
Peters
Pingree (ME)
Polis (CO)
Pomeroy
Price (NC)
Quigley
Rangel
Reyes
Richardson
Rodriguez
Ros-Lehtinen
Rothman (NJ)
Roybal-Allard
Ruppersberger
Rush
Ryan (OH)
Salazar
Sánchez, Linda T.
Sanchez, Loretta
Sarbanes
Schakowsky
Schauer
Schwartz
Scott (GA)
Scott (VA)
Serrano
Sestak
Shea-Porter
Sherman
Sires
Skelton
Slaughter
Smith (WA)
Snyder
Speier
Spratt
Stark
Sutton
Tanner
Teague
Thompson (CA)
Thompson (MS)
Tierney
Titus
Tonko
Towns
Tsongas
Van Hollen
Velázquez
Walz
Wasserman Schultz
Waters
Watson
Watt
Waxman
Weiner
Welch
Woolsey
Yarmuth

---- NAYS 198 ---

Aderholt
Akin
Alexander
Altmire
Arcuri
Austria
Bachmann
Bachus
Baird
Barrett (SC)
Barrow
Bartlett
Barton (TX)
Biggert
Bilirakis
Bishop (UT)
Blackburn
Boccieri
Boehner
Bonner
Bono Mack
Boozman
Boren
Boucher
Boustany
Brady (TX)
Bright
Broun (GA)
Brown (SC)
Brown-Waite, Ginny
Buchanan
Burgess
Burton (IN)
Calvert
Camp
Campbell
Cantor
Capito
Carney
Carter
Cassidy
Chaffetz
Chandler
Childers
Coble
Coffman (CO)
Cole
Conaway
Costello
Crenshaw
Critz
Culberson
Dahlkemper
Davis (KY)
Dent
Donnelly (IN)
Dreier
Duncan
Ellsworth
Emerson
Flake
Fleming
Forbes
Fortenberry
Foxx
Franks (AZ)
Frelinghuysen
Gallegly
Garrett (NJ)
Gerlach
Gohmert
Goodlatte
Graves (GA)
Graves (MO)
Guthrie
Hall (TX)
Harper
Hastings (WA)
Heller
Hensarling
Herger
Higgins
Hoekstra
Holden
Hunter
Issa
Jenkins
Johnson (IL)
Johnson, Sam
Jones
Jordan (OH)
Kanjorski
Kaptur
King (IA)
King (NY)
Kingston
Kissell
Kline (MN)
Kratovil
Lamborn
Lance
Latham
LaTourette
Latta
Lee (NY)
Lewis (CA)
Linder
Lipinski
LoBiondo
Lucas
Luetkemeyer
Lummis
Lungren, Daniel E.
Mack
Manzullo
Matheson
McCarthy (CA)
McCaul
McClintock
McCotter
McHenry
McIntyre
McKeon
Mica
Miller (FL)
Miller (MI)
Miller, Gary
Moran (KS)
Murphy, Patrick
Murphy, Tim
Myrick
Neugebauer
Nunes
Nye
Olson
Owens
Paul
Paulsen
Pence
Peterson
Petri
Pitts
Platts
Poe (TX)
Posey
Price (GA)
Putnam
Rahall
Reed
Rehberg
Reichert
Roe (TN)
Rogers (AL)
Rogers (KY)
Rogers (MI)
Rohrabacher
Rooney
Roskam
Ross
Royce
Ryan (WI)
Scalise
Schmidt
Schock
Schrader
Sensenbrenner
Sessions
Shadegg
Shimkus
Shuler
Shuster
Simpson
Smith (NE)
Smith (NJ)
Smith (TX)
Space
Stearns
Stupak
Sullivan
Taylor
Terry
Thompson (PA)
Thornberry
Tiahrt
Tiberi
Turner
Upton
Visclosky
Walden
Wamp
Westmoreland
Whitfield
Wilson (OH)
Wilson (SC)
Wittman
Wolf
Young (AK)
Young (FL)

---- NOT VOTING 20 ---

Berry
Bilbray
Blunt
Buyer
Cohen
Delahunt
Fallin
Gingrey (GA)
Granger
Griffith
Kilpatrick (MI)
Kirkpatrick (AZ)
Marchant
Marshall
McMorris Rodgers
Mollohan
Radanovich
Schiff
Stutzman
Wu



85 posted on 12/08/2010 7:12:58 PM PST by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one.)
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To: raybbr

I agree with you totally...so why don’t you just come out and say that you believe that the U.S. should be a White, Western Civilzation country and we will not have any more black, hispanic, or asian immigratiion....but don’t punish the kids that we let in when we needed Daddy’s labor.


86 posted on 12/08/2010 7:13:38 PM PST by northwinds
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To: STARWISE

Ros-Lehtinen probably rates an “F” on immigration issues from a conservative perspective.


87 posted on 12/08/2010 7:15:20 PM PST by Comparative Advantage
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To: northwinds; raybbr

You are disgusting for pulling the race card. It has nothing to do with race and everything to do with “ILlegal”. Not legal. Breaking rules. And everything that follows after that. Illegals are allowed in because of leftist, globalist agendas.

It is ruinous and you are a cheerleader for this hateful crap.


88 posted on 12/08/2010 7:16:09 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point.CSLewis)
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To: northwinds; Liz; AuntB; SwinneySwitch; B4Ranch; hedgetrimmer; Tennessee Nana
I agree with you totally...so why don’t you just come out and say that you believe that the U.S. should be a White, Western Civilzation country and we will not have any more black, hispanic, or asian immigratiion....but don’t punish the kids that we let in when we needed Daddy’s labor.

"Dane" is back....

89 posted on 12/08/2010 7:16:34 PM PST by raybbr (Someone who invades another country is NOT an immigrant - illegal or otherwise.)
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To: skeeter
Really, I thought we ran all the open border ninnies & lawbreaking employers off this site.

its so sad to think that you really believe, deep down in your heart, that you never received any "services" or assistance from any of these kid's parents over the last twenty years.....that's funny, I don't care where you're from....LMAO.

90 posted on 12/08/2010 7:16:53 PM PST by northwinds
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To: raybbr
"Dane" is back....

Who the frick is "Dane" and what does he have to do with this discussion?

91 posted on 12/08/2010 7:19:49 PM PST by northwinds
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To: northwinds; Jim Robinson

If I owned this site... you would be removed from the membership.

LLS


92 posted on 12/08/2010 7:20:20 PM PST by LibLieSlayer (WOLVERINES!)
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To: northwinds

You keep using the word “kids” in your defense of this legislation.
This means you are either stupid or a liar as any reading of the Bill will tell you it’s not about “kids”.
But I know you’re just playing a silly little game because your messiah obama is getting bloodied every day...have your fun.


93 posted on 12/08/2010 7:20:43 PM PST by Maverick68
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To: northwinds
we have bigger problems....like China and the deficit...but that’s a little more complicated than hating on the Hispanic kids isn’t it?

Oooh, nice one:

So according to you, anyone who opposes the Dream Act hates Hispanic children.

Why don't you just cut to the chase and say conservatives are racist and hate children?

94 posted on 12/08/2010 7:21:52 PM PST by Crichton
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To: northwinds
but don’t punish the kids that we let in when we needed Daddy’s labor.

Speak for yourself boy. We didn't need daddy. When I was baling hay and picking rocks, none of my coworkers were illegals.
95 posted on 12/08/2010 7:22:58 PM PST by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: northwinds
Dave Gibson:

DREAM Act has no limits on chain-migration...would mean citizenship for untold millions

November 22nd, 2010 2:29 am ET

Their DREAM Act...our nightmare

Under federal law, U.S. citizens as well as legal permanent residents can petition to bring their “immediate relatives” to this country. As such, those amnestied under the proposed DREAM Act will be able to lawfully bring family members to the U.S., with no limits as to the number of relatives who can then, legally enter this nation.

If and when this bill becomes law, the government estimates that 2.1 million illegal aliens will qualify for and receive green cards, at that point, their spouse and children (without age limit) can and will receive them as well.

Based on the federal government’s low estimate of those illegal aliens who will qualify for amnesty, and assuming each of those illegal aliens has at least four family members they either want to bring here from another nation, or to assist in legalizing those living in the U.S. illegally—the DREAM Act would translate into 10.5 million “new Americans.”

Remember, that is only based upon the government’s very conservative estimate, the truth is, no one knows exactly how many illegal aliens will qualify for amnesty under the proposed bill, although it is safe to assume that the actual number will be a great deal higher than what we are being told.

It should also be noted that while the DREAM Act is supposed to apply only to those who were brought to the U.S. illegally, as children--the legislation also allows for the White House to issue waivers for any and all regulations and qualifications, as the president sees fit.

In other words…under the DREAM Act, Obama can grant a so-called “pathway to citizenship” to every illegal alien in this country.

You're either a liberal infiltrator or ignorant as hell. We're not in the mood for games, northwinds. They will love you over at the DU. Slide on over there..

sw

96 posted on 12/08/2010 7:22:58 PM PST by spectre (Spectre's wife)
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To: northwinds
What right whatever you say. Keep clicking your heels you reach Kansas eventually...


97 posted on 12/08/2010 7:23:21 PM PST by darkwing104 (Lets get dangerous)
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To: northwinds

As a “hispanic kid” of Cuban origin, I came here legally with my parents.

I resent your comments. You and your liberal brethren can maintain all these illegal moochers, I will not.

Let them all go home and apply legally to re-enter the country. I want them all out of here. Back to where they “illegally” came from.


98 posted on 12/08/2010 7:23:25 PM PST by rep-always
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To: northwinds
Lessee - 90% republicans vote against this, nearly all democrats vote for it - liberals LOVE it because they know it'll lock them in electorally for the next several generations so they can continue raping wwhats left of the country - and you're laughing your ass off.

That makes you

a) a moron
b) a liberal minded ethnic tribalist
or c) a greedbag lawbreaking employer of illegal aliens.

I'm going with c).

99 posted on 12/08/2010 7:23:47 PM PST by skeeter
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To: raybbr
"Dane" is back....

I would have to agree, raybbr.
This is a 'Dane' moment.

100 posted on 12/08/2010 7:25:16 PM PST by no-to-illegals (Please God, Bless and Protect Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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