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DREAM ACT IS A NIGHTMARE
boblonsberry.com ^ | 12/09/10 | Bob Lonsberry

Posted on 12/09/2010 5:14:56 AM PST by shortstop

The Dream Act is a nightmare.

It's one more attack on what is good and right in this country.

You've heard of it, right? It's a plan from the Democrats and the light-in-the-loafer Republicans that would give illegal aliens who came here as minors a green card if they go to college or enlist in the military.

Of course, with the green card they could apply for citizenship and when they got that they would be authorized by law to give their parents, siblings, children and spouses green cards, too.

So sneak your kid across the border, sign him up at the community college to study remedial 8th-grade math, start the paperwork, and get the whole famn damly citizenship.

Thank you, Senor Obama.

It's a bad idea. And it's offensive to our military.

Don't get me wrong. If an illegal alien qualifies to enlist in our military, and serves honorably, in my opinion, that person has earned citizenship. I have no problem with that whatsoever. I would gladly welcome such a person. That person has shown us what they're made of, and they have offered a true service to our Republic. That person is going to make a good American.

I support that part of this, and my understanding is that that part of this, at least in part, already exists.

But to equate going to college with going in the military is an insult to anyone who has ever graduated from Basic Training. They two experiences are polar opposites, and their relationship to society are likewise polar opposites.A soldier is serving society, a student is living off society.

In college, they read books and drink beer and sleep with odd people. They often are on public assistance and the taxpayer either pays or subsidizes their tuition. They don't carry the burden of society, they are the burden of society.

No offense intended, and I've got kids in college myself, but to think that going to college should earn the right of either residency or citizenship is insane. And to equate it to being in the military, by rewarding it in the same fashion, spits in the face of those who've worn the uniform.

It also belies the fact that, for many, "going to college" is just conditioning for the welfare economy. For some, it is an arena of subsidy and dependency. It is 13th grade and it can be taken over and over again, and all of it is at taxpayer expense. Even for students at public schools who pay their tuition in whole, it is the taxpayer who pays most of the cost of their education.

Further, as social programs and education meld into the same thing, the nurture and encouragement and support end up breeding softness, not strength. Many find their way into community college by way of government programs and GED classes. Yes, they are students, but the real impact of this instruction in their lives, on average, might be pretty hard to find.

So what this Dream Act does, essentially, is make a community college program the Home Free square in our game of illegal immigration. That might be a good thing for the care, feeding and recruitment of future Democrat voters, but it's not a good idea from the standpoint of either the college or the community.

Further, this amnesty -- like all amnesties -- does great injustice to legal immigration. Those who obey immigration law have virtually no ability to immigrate. Those who ignore immigration law have virtually no obstacle to immigration. We punish obedience to law and reward disobedience to law.

Which is pretty messed up.

In the ongoing murder of America, as the government and those who control it do everything they can to destroy us, this is just one more step. It is the problem ignored, and then responded to with policies that take us from the frying pan into the fire.

It is also a ploy, a bad policy pushed forward by a political party -- the Democrats -- for the sole purpose of currying favor with a portion of the electorate -- Latinos. It is prostitution, and what's being prostituted is our country.

Immigration is fine, but we are a nation of laws, and laws must be obeyed and enforced. We cannot reward lawbreakers and long expect to be a civilized society.

This dream is a nightmare.

And it needs to fail.


TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; dreamact; immigration; obama; obobo; obozo; partyofdeath
Here's an idea. Let's ship back all illegal aliens. Then, don't extend any unemployment benefits beyond the current levels. Only then will we find out which jobs Americans really won't do.
1 posted on 12/09/2010 5:15:03 AM PST by shortstop
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To: shortstop

Looks like the dims are just lining up their new voters for 2012. If the illegals traditionally voted republican, the dims would put the military on the border to repel the invaders.


2 posted on 12/09/2010 5:17:38 AM PST by Texas resident (Hunkered Down)
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To: shortstop

Dream Act = Legislative appeasement


3 posted on 12/09/2010 5:21:04 AM PST by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: shortstop

“It’s only FAIR...” Let’s see, we can have FAIR or we can have FREE. Can’t have both.


4 posted on 12/09/2010 5:26:50 AM PST by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: shortstop

You: “Here’s an idea. Let’s ship back all illegal aliens. Then, don’t extend any unemployment benefits beyond the current levels. Only then will we find out which jobs Americans really won’t do.”

Me: Only then will we find out which jobs Americans really won’t do and how much the pay needs to be increased so that Americans will do those jobs.


5 posted on 12/09/2010 5:29:02 AM PST by This I Wonder32460
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To: shortstop

Any Repub who votes for this will be gone in their next election. They will hold firm on this one, it would be suicide.

Merry Christmas


6 posted on 12/09/2010 5:34:00 AM PST by bray (Sarah Palin will destroy the Repub Party, hopfully!)
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To: shortstop
... an illegal alien qualifies to enlist ..., that person has earned citizenship. I have no problem with that ... I support that part of this...

No, no, and NO. It is fine for a LEGAL alien, but not at all for an illegal. Facilitates enemies of the US to just jump across a river into boot camp.

Now, here is an idea for a Dream act... IF an illegal alien then illegally votes, and can prove he/she illegally voted republican, THEN they fast-track to citizenship. Seems to me if 'rats want DREAM, this would be the partisan equivalent.

7 posted on 12/09/2010 5:35:04 AM PST by C210N (0bama, Making the US safe for Global Marxism)
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To: shortstop

dreAMNESTY


8 posted on 12/09/2010 5:36:22 AM PST by crosshairs (The word for actor in Greek is hypocrite (its true).)
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To: This I Wonder32460

I disagree. If an American will not work for 8-10 an hour to start off, then no benefits of any kind. Let those who refuse to work live in the cold or heat.


9 posted on 12/09/2010 5:36:41 AM PST by Lumper20
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To: crosshairs

Motor voter in spanish.


10 posted on 12/09/2010 5:37:25 AM PST by Texas resident (Hunkered Down)
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To: shortstop

Republicans Slam DREAM Act for Including Immigrants With Criminal Records

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/12/08/republicans-slam-dream-act-allowing-immigrants-criminal-records/#ixzz17cXz903b


11 posted on 12/09/2010 5:41:33 AM PST by Doogle ((USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: shortstop

To say I’m fed up with this socialist, God-less central government would be an understatement.

If this evil regime doesn’t miraculously disappear soon, then since we’re reduced to banana republic status, perhaps a benevolent dictator like Francisco Franco will appear.


12 posted on 12/09/2010 5:42:59 AM PST by IbJensen (The Marine Corps - When It Absolutely, Positively Has To Be Destroyed Overnight.)
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To: shortstop

“We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security. “


13 posted on 12/09/2010 5:58:23 AM PST by Bean Counter (Stout Hearts...)
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To: shortstop

We don’t have to ship them back. All we have to do is turn off the spigot (welfare, jobs, education, everything) and they will leave willingly.


14 posted on 12/09/2010 6:21:03 AM PST by MizSterious ("Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." -JFK)
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To: shortstop

What is the plan for the college tuition? Are we expected to pay for it?


15 posted on 12/09/2010 6:29:44 AM PST by coon2000 (Give me Liberty or give me death!)
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To: Texas resident
Even without the Dream Act, we are importing Dem voters every year through our immigration policies. The U.S. adds one international migrant (net) every 36 seconds. Immigrants account for one in 8 U.S. residents, the highest level in more than 80 years. In 1970 it was one in 21; in 1980 it was one in 16; and in 1990 it was one in 13. In a decade, it will be one in 7, the highest level in our history. And by 2050, one in 5 residents of the U.S. will be foreign-born.

Currently, 1.6 million legal and illegal immigrants settle in the country each year; 350,000 immigrants leave each year, resulting in net immigration of 1.25 million. Since 1970, the U.S. population has increased from 203 million to 310 million, i.e., over 100 million. In the next 40 years, the population will increase by 130 million. Three-quarters of the increase in our population since 1970 and the projected increase will be the result of immigration. The U.S., the world’s third most populous nation, has the highest annual rate of population growth of any developed country in the world, i.e., 0.977% (2010 estimate), principally due to immigration.

87% of the 1.2 million legal immigrants are minorities as defined by the USG. Minorities and immigrants vote Dem.

16 posted on 12/09/2010 6:46:25 AM PST by kabar
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To: 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; 7.62 x 51mm; ..

Ping!

Call your Senators to stop this!


17 posted on 12/09/2010 7:07:28 AM PST by HiJinx (I can see Mexico from the back porch...)
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To: shortstop

Here’s yet one more example of our elected officials NOT listening to American (legal) citizens.


18 posted on 12/09/2010 7:14:30 AM PST by beachn4fun (You are either an American - or not!)
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To: HiJinx

Call your Senators to stop this!

Yeah right! I have lousenberg and menandez here in NJ. Who do you suggest I call first?


19 posted on 12/09/2010 7:16:07 AM PST by hdbc (1/20/13 End of an Error.)
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To: shortstop

I see crap like this and all the responses and I just have to laugh.


20 posted on 12/09/2010 7:24:59 AM PST by Dead Corpse (III, Alarm and Muster)
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To: beachn4fun

These traitors have taken tyranny to another level, and so the time may be coming where it will have to be escalated a notch in response to their reckless and seditious activities against our beloved Republic they are truly trying to put to death...without any respect towards the consent of the governed.


21 posted on 12/09/2010 7:26:48 AM PST by AmericanInTokyo (**George W Bush** bears as much responsibility as CARTER, CLINTON and OBAMA over N. Korean nukes)
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To: hdbc

You think you have it bad?
I’m stuck with Jaun McPain...


22 posted on 12/09/2010 9:07:35 AM PST by HiJinx (I can see Mexico from the back porch...)
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To: Dead Corpse
"I see crap like this and all the responses and I just have to laugh."

What crap and what do you find so funny?

23 posted on 12/09/2010 10:39:16 AM PST by shortstop (Marco Rubio in 2010/Chris Christie in 2012.)
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To: shortstop

What can’t they work and attend classes at nights ?


24 posted on 12/09/2010 11:27:08 AM PST by moonshinner_09
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To: shortstop
Crap like this bill and our response to it.

We should be stringing these idiots from every lamp post in DC, and yet here we sit on our keyboards whining.

If you don't laugh, you don't understand how truly screwed we are.

25 posted on 12/09/2010 11:58:31 AM PST by Dead Corpse (III, Alarm and Muster)
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