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Was Clovis wrestler's legal move an illegal act?
Fresno Bee ^ | 12-9-10 | Pablo Lopez

Posted on 12/09/2010 5:30:36 AM PST by Mikey_1962

Edited on 12/09/2010 5:32:37 AM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

In a crowded gym during practice in front of parents and coaches, the Buchanan High School wrestler tackled a teammate and executed a move his coaches taught him.

He inserted his fingers between the boy's buttocks.


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To: Mikey_1962

Nothing gay about wrestling...


2 posted on 12/09/2010 5:33:20 AM PST by secret garden (Why procrastinate when you can perendinate?)
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To: Mikey_1962

Guess it depends on if he liked it or not......


3 posted on 12/09/2010 5:33:58 AM PST by BuzzKillington
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To: secret garden

San Francisco high school or sports on Glee!


5 posted on 12/09/2010 5:35:10 AM PST by Dr. Ursus
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To: Mikey_1962

Assange isn’t the only one who engages in “sex by surprise”.


6 posted on 12/09/2010 5:35:51 AM PST by ClearCase_guy
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To: secret garden

Nothing gay about wrestling...

or rugby.


7 posted on 12/09/2010 5:36:16 AM PST by flowerplough (Pennsylvania today - New New Jersey meets North West Virginia. Or maybe we're North Alabama.)
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To: Mikey_1962

Ewww...


8 posted on 12/09/2010 5:37:20 AM PST by ladyvet
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To: Mikey_1962

> The move is widely used at matches around the country and
> has been around for decades.

Speaks volumes about the moral degradation that prevails in this country.

This “move” should be regarded as an assault no matter where it’s used. If practiced by a male homosexual, it should be considered a sexual assault.

You know, God’s not going to put up with this much longer. We become more like Sodom every day. When we cross the final threshold, judgement will come.


9 posted on 12/09/2010 5:37:49 AM PST by Westbrook (Having children does not divide your love, it multiplies it.)
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To: Mikey_1962

What’s it called?
The “Stink Finger” move?.................


10 posted on 12/09/2010 5:38:09 AM PST by Red Badger (The House finally fell on Nancy Pelosi..........)
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To: secret garden
I believe this is a standard - tho difficult - wrestling move in certain gyms and high schools.

It's properly called the "Half Chrissy (as opposed to the "Full Chrissy") Supository Insertion"

11 posted on 12/09/2010 5:38:27 AM PST by Logic n' Reason (You can roll a turd in powered sugar; that don't make it a jelly donut)
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To: secret garden

I would love to hear Bobby Heenan do the play-by-play on that match.


12 posted on 12/09/2010 5:39:30 AM PST by GreenHornet
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To: Mikey_1962

Well, now I know why it’s called Greco-Roman wrestling!
Learn sumpin’ new today!


13 posted on 12/09/2010 5:40:12 AM PST by ozark hilljilly (Had enough, yet?)
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To: secret garden

I’d say the kid has a bright future as a TSA screener.


14 posted on 12/09/2010 5:44:00 AM PST by Arm_Bears (I'll have what the gentleman on the floor is drinking.)
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To: TSgt
This guy was the wrestler:


16 posted on 12/09/2010 5:51:02 AM PST by decimon
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To: TSgt

That move /hold as described would constitute grabbing the opponent’s uniform which is a technical violation and 1 point awarded to opponent.


17 posted on 12/09/2010 5:51:47 AM PST by Don@VB (Power Corrupts)
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To: secret garden

Obviously, this guy is MILITARY material (in the minds of Progressives).


18 posted on 12/09/2010 5:52:43 AM PST by traditional1 ("Don't gotsta worry 'bout no mo'gage, don't gotsta worry 'bout no gas; Obama gonna take care o' me!)
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To: secret garden
It's called the "butt drag,"...

And then there's the "nad grab," used as a take-down, a compliance move or a social cue.

19 posted on 12/09/2010 5:53:49 AM PST by decimon
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To: Don@VB
That move /hold as described would constitute grabbing the opponent’s uniform

You're assuming they were wearing uniforms....

20 posted on 12/09/2010 5:56:12 AM PST by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: decimon

Here’s video of the move being used in several matches. Yeah, it is perfectly within the rules of the sport and has been forever. Can’t believe anyone got into wrestling without knowing that.


21 posted on 12/09/2010 6:02:11 AM PST by GrootheWanderer
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To: GrootheWanderer

Don’t know what happened. Here’s the video of the move:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWnVO33AK1w


22 posted on 12/09/2010 6:09:24 AM PST by GrootheWanderer
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To: GrootheWanderer
Can’t believe anyone got into wrestling without knowing that.

I'm not sure what you are talking about. When I was wrestling in HS in PA over a quarter century ago, I never had a coach teach or saw anyone try this move. Of course, I haven't kept up with the sport since then.

23 posted on 12/09/2010 6:12:33 AM PST by kosciusko51
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To: secret garden

Meanwhile, during the after school team parties, old gladiator movies starring Steve Reeves were the hit of the evening....


24 posted on 12/09/2010 6:14:54 AM PST by Waverunner (I'd like to welcome our new overlords, say hello to my little friend)
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To: secret garden

The mods are relentless on this thread!

My post wasn’t bad at all!

Geesh!


25 posted on 12/09/2010 6:21:27 AM PST by TSgt (Colonel Allen West & Michele Bachman - 2012 POTUS Dream Team Ticket!)
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I thought this was a Joke until I googled the story! It is unbelievable anything like this is taught as a legitimate wrestling move.


26 posted on 12/09/2010 6:22:21 AM PST by Anti-Bubba182
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To: kosciusko51

If you can find footage of college or AAU or Olympic wrestling from that era, you’ll see it was being used even then, and earlier than that.

It may not have been as common at the high school level then, though I was in high school a bit earlier than that and was taught it, because most high school wrestling coaches then, and to some degree even now, really don’t know a lot about the sport.

Again, it’s within the rules of the sport, and if his opponent was wearing a singlet and jock, I really doubt his finger went into his anus.


27 posted on 12/09/2010 6:26:06 AM PST by GrootheWanderer
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To: kosciusko51
When I was wrestling in HS in PA over a quarter century ago, I never had a coach teach or saw anyone try this move

Welcome to the Youtube era. Now that the videos are out, It wouldn't surprise me if this becomes a top ten "move" in the next few months.

At least in Massachusetts and the California Bay Area . . . .

28 posted on 12/09/2010 6:29:12 AM PST by behzinlea
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To: GrootheWanderer; kosciusko51

I’ve got to agree with kosciusko51, when I wrestled in HS and college (only intramural, not team) in the 1980s I never saw this move. If someone had tried this on me it would have turned into a hockey match very soon, ha ha ha.


29 posted on 12/09/2010 6:32:50 AM PST by Gothmog (I fight for Xev)
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To: All
The move is widely used at matches around the country and has been around for decade.

I wrestled for 13 years in Ohio and never EVER heard of such a move.
30 posted on 12/09/2010 6:35:09 AM PST by mmichaels1970
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To: GrootheWanderer
Can’t believe anyone got into wrestling without knowing that.

I was 5 when I got into wrestling.
31 posted on 12/09/2010 6:37:14 AM PST by mmichaels1970
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To: mmichaels1970

Myself and all my brothers wrestled for years and I’ve never heard of it either.


32 posted on 12/09/2010 6:37:36 AM PST by Paco
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To: secret garden
...executed a move his coaches taught him.

How did this coach teach him this move? To say it would be inappropriate contact would be an understatement.

33 posted on 12/09/2010 6:38:07 AM PST by Never on my watch (This is a revolution d@mmit, we're going to have to offend SOMEbody! (Adams character - 1776))
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I think this move was made legal by the Don’t Ask, Don’t Smell act in 1999.


34 posted on 12/09/2010 6:41:04 AM PST by GreenAccord (Bakon Akbar!)
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To: GrootheWanderer
Again, it’s within the rules of the sport, and if his opponent was wearing a singlet and jock, I really doubt his finger went into his anus.

Reading the story there appears to have been some conflict before between the two boys and the seventeen year old took 'revenge' on the 14 year old in practice and went beyond the normal bounds. I can't say what happened but I can easily understand that it would and could happen particulary if there was a differnce in skill and strength between the two.

35 posted on 12/09/2010 6:42:37 AM PST by SeeSac
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To: GreenAccord
I think this move was made legal by the Don’t Ask, Don’t Smell act in 1999.

Well done!
36 posted on 12/09/2010 6:42:56 AM PST by mmichaels1970
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To: mmichaels1970

Some coaches call it “skinning.” It may have other names that I’m not aware of. It doesn’t involve putting your fingers in anyone’s anus. It does involve grabbing your opponent’s butt cheek to turn him.

The boy who has been charged says he did a butt drag, a legal but painful move.

The boy who filed charges said he out his fingers in his anus, an illegal and painful move.


37 posted on 12/09/2010 6:46:24 AM PST by GrootheWanderer
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To: SeeSac

Yeah, that could well be the case. Unfortunately, hazing is too common in high school sports, and it often has a sexual element.

Or maybe the younger boy is just exaggerating what happened to him. I don’t know. I wasn’t there.

But if the older boy is telling the truth, he did a move that has been legal in the sport forever.


38 posted on 12/09/2010 6:50:23 AM PST by GrootheWanderer
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To: GrootheWanderer

It was unheard of when I wrestled. Are we sure this isn’t from the Onion?


39 posted on 12/09/2010 6:52:13 AM PST by achilles2000 ("I'll agree to save the whales as long as we can deport the liberals")
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To: secret garden

Hmmmm.... occasionally I read about girls being allowed to participate in boys wrestling. Doesn’t this type of move put them at a disadvantage? Just asking.


40 posted on 12/09/2010 7:06:18 AM PST by super7man
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To: secret garden

Time to change the rules.


41 posted on 12/09/2010 7:18:32 AM PST by Hacklehead (Liberalism is the art of taking what works, breaking it, and then blaming conservatives.)
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To: GreenHornet

I would love to hear Bobby Heenan do the play-by-play on that match.
= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
Or “Mean Gene” doing the post match interview getting ‘Hulk Hogan’ to explain exactly what he was trying to do to ‘Sgt Slaughter’ ......
Of course, ‘Rick Flair’ would probably have absolutely no problem with the move.... <:


42 posted on 12/09/2010 7:30:07 AM PST by xrmusn ((6/98))
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To: GrootheWanderer
My son wrestled for 11 years, and I video taped every match of his HS varsity team for 4 years. I have seen guys grab the butt or nads to fend off an attack on the legs, but never stick their fingers in like that. I don't think it is a common occurrence.
43 posted on 12/09/2010 7:30:47 AM PST by laker_dad
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To: secret garden
Was Clovis wrestler's legal move an illegal act?

If it's not, it should be.

44 posted on 12/09/2010 7:34:08 AM PST by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: secret garden
How in the world would an opponent get his fingers in someone's anus with those uniforms they wear? Besides that, what kind of damage could be done to one's body if one's anus was used for leverage?

This may have been around a long time, but that doesn't make it a good thing.

45 posted on 12/09/2010 7:38:50 AM PST by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: Gothmog

****** “I’ve got to agree with kosciusko51, when I wrestled in HS and college (only intramural, not team) in the 1980s I never saw this move. If someone had tried this on me it would have turned into a hockey match very soon, ha ha ha.” ******

Everything you said except I would have went UFC on him and no Ref could have stopped me till he was choked out and bloody.

TT


46 posted on 12/09/2010 7:41:38 AM PST by TexasTransplant (I don't mind liberals... I hate liars...there just tends to be a high degree of overlap)
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To: mmichaels1970

Ever hear of an oil check?


47 posted on 12/09/2010 7:44:04 AM PST by Rammer
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To: secret garden

Wrestling is only gay if you make eye contact.


48 posted on 12/09/2010 8:02:14 AM PST by Bullpine
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To: Bullpine

I have to photograph wrestling several times a year. Often, i feel I have to wash my hands afterwards.

I know most of them are not “gay.” But the positions they get themselves into just make me wince.

And “wrestling people” are amongst the most intense folks you will ever meet.


49 posted on 12/09/2010 8:17:04 AM PST by Vermont Lt (Don't taze my junk bro.)
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To: GrootheWanderer

If you can insert your finger in your opponent’s anus, why can’t you simply grab ‘em by the scrotum or penis ?

If this IS legal, it sure as anything SHOULDN’T BE.


50 posted on 12/09/2010 8:31:12 AM PST by jimt
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