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The WikiLeaks Vindication of George W. Bush
Townhall ^ | 12/09/2010 | Larry Elder

Posted on 12/09/2010 6:38:19 AM PST by safetysign

The WikiLeaks de facto declassification of privileged material makes it case closed: Saddam Hussein possessed weapons of mass destruction -- and intended to restart his program once the heat was off.

President George W. Bush, in the 2003 State of the Union address, uttered the infamous "16 words": "The British government has learned that Saddam Hussein recently sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa."

Former Ambassador Joe Wilson sprang into action and, in an op-ed piece, in effect wrote, "No, the Cheney administration sent me to investigate the allegation -- and I found it without merit."

Put aside that Wilson's CIA-employed wife, not the evil Vice President Dick Cheney -- as Wilson implied -- sent him on the African errand. Put aside that the British still stand by the intelligence on which Bush made the claim. And put aside that the anti-Bush Washington Post, in an editorial, concluded that Wilson had lied about not finding evidence to support the Iraq-in-Africa-for-uranium claim, since he told the CIA the opposite when he reported back from Africa.

Bush claimed that Iraq sought uranium, specifically "yellowcake." What is yellowcake, and why would its presence or attempted acquisition corroborate the nearly unanimous assumption that Saddam possessed WMD?

The Associated Press called yellowcake "the seed material for higher-grade nuclear enrichment" and said that it "also can be enriched for use in reactors and, at higher levels, nuclear weapons using sophisticated equipment."

"Bush and Iraq: Follow the Yellow Cake Road" headlined a euphoric Time magazine July 2003 piece -- written when the Bush administration began backtracking from the Iraq-sought-uranium-from-Africa claim. Time said no yellowcake equals no WMD equals bogus basis for war.

The article led with this ripper: "Is a fib really a fib if the teller is unaware that he is uttering an untruth? That question appears to be the basis of the White House defense, having now admitted a falsehood in President Bush's claim, in his State of the Union address, that Iraq had tried to buy uranium in Africa."

Time hoisted (the now discredited) Joe Wilson on its shoulders as The Man Who Told the Truth to Power: "Just last weekend, the man sent by the CIA to check out the Niger story broke cover and revealed that he had thoroughly debunked the allegation many months before President Bush repeated it." Never mind that the bipartisan Senate Intelligence Committee concluded that Wilson's report "lent more credibility to the original Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) reports on the uranium deal" sought by Iraq in Niger.

Let's recap.

Bush, in building the case for war against Iraq, lied to the nation. He falsely claimed that Iraq was attempting to purchase yellowcake from Africa. Time magazine specifically referred to the yellowcake "lie" in accusing Bush of fabricating the case for war. Therefore, were Iraq to have had yellowcake -- an assertion called a "lie" -- it would have confirmed the presence of WMD, giving credence to Bush's declaration of Iraq as a "grave and gathering threat."

But ... there ... was ... yellowcake. This brings us back to WikiLeaks.

Wired magazine's contributing editor Noah Shachtman -- a nonresident fellow at the liberal Brookings Institution -- researched the 400,000 WikiLeaked documents released in October. Here's what he found: "By late 2003, even the Bush White House's staunchest defenders were starting to give up on the idea that there were weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. But WikiLeaks' newly-released Iraq war documents reveal that for years afterward, U.S. troops continued to find chemical weapons labs, encounter insurgent specialists in toxins and uncover weapons of mass destruction (emphasis added). ... Chemical weapons, especially, did not vanish from the Iraqi battlefield. Remnants of Saddam's toxic arsenal, largely destroyed after the Gulf War, remained. Jihadists, insurgents and foreign (possibly Iranian) agitators turned to these stockpiles during the Iraq conflict -- and may have brewed up their own deadly agents."

In 2008, our military shipped out of Iraq -- on 37 flights in 3,500 barrels -- what even The Associated Press called "the last major remnant of Saddam Hussein's nuclear program": 550 metric tons of the supposedly nonexistent yellowcake. The New York Sun editorialized: "The uranium issue is not a trivial one, because Iraq, sitting on vast oil reserves, has no peaceful need for nuclear power. ... To leave this nuclear material sitting around the Middle East in the hands of Saddam ... would have been too big a risk."

Now the mainscream media no longer deem yellowcake -- the WMD Bush supposedly lied about -- a WMD. It was, well, old. It was degraded. It was not what we think of when we think of WMD. Really? Square that with what former Democratic National Chairman Howard Dean said in April 2004: "There were no weapons of mass destruction." MSNBC's Rachel Maddow goes even further, insisting, against the overwhelming evidence to the contrary, that "Saddam Hussein was not pursuing weapons of mass destruction"!

Bush, hammered by the insidious "Bush Lied, People Died" mantra, endured one of the most vicious smears against any president in history. He is owed an apology.

When Hollywood makes "The Vindication of George W. Bush," maybe Sean Penn can play the lead.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 296; bush; georgewbush; iraq; joewilson; larryelder; nigeria; plamegate; unitedkingdom; wikileaks; wmd; wmds; yellowcake
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1 posted on 12/09/2010 6:38:26 AM PST by safetysign
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To: safetysign

bump


2 posted on 12/09/2010 6:43:24 AM PST by FreeAtlanta (Hey, Barack "Hubris" Obama, what are you hiding? Release your Birth Certificate!)
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To: safetysign

Funny I havent heard this on the news cables? Must be an oversight


3 posted on 12/09/2010 6:44:14 AM PST by GoCards (Why me? Why not me?)
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To: GoCards

Perhaps Keith Olbermann will report this. Right after he recites the Pledge of Allegiance.


4 posted on 12/09/2010 6:47:27 AM PST by safetysign
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To: safetysign
"When Hollywood makes "The Vindication of George W. Bush," maybe Sean Penn can play the lead."

Sean Penn can play the lead? What as, the sniveling, whimpering "face of the MSM", crawling in abject remorse and humiliation, begging the forgiveness of the American people for the MSM lying to us?

5 posted on 12/09/2010 6:49:05 AM PST by BwanaNdege ("a comeuppance is due the arrogant elites" - Charles Krauthammer)
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To: safetysign
U.S. troops continued to find chemical weapons labs, encounter insurgent specialists in toxins and uncover weapons of mass destruction (emphasis added). ... Chemical weapons, especially, did not vanish from the Iraqi battlefield.

Yep, but the various stashes of WMD weren't kept in special buildings with a "Saddam's WMD" sign on the door, so there was no WMD for the New York Times to report.

6 posted on 12/09/2010 6:50:44 AM PST by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: GoCards

Oh, I’m sure they will get to it today.


7 posted on 12/09/2010 6:50:48 AM PST by aberaussie
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To: safetysign

These facts get in the way of the media helping the Dems take down America and jam their agenda down our throats. How dare Town Hall run the truth...


8 posted on 12/09/2010 6:51:25 AM PST by oust the louse (When you subsidize poverty and failure, you get more of both.)
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To: safetysign
I've seen this information before, and it really puzzles me.

I have always believed there were WMD in Iraq. For me, that's a bit of a no-brainer. And during the Bush administration, I heard small bits of news that some WMD were found, but they never seemed to make a big deal out of it.

Well, if it turns out that we actually had lots of hard evidence that Iraq had WMD -- why on Earth didn't the Bush administration go to the NYT and cram that evidence down their throat????

9 posted on 12/09/2010 6:51:32 AM PST by ClearCase_guy
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To: safetysign

“Time said no yellowcake equals no WMD “

The above itself is a lie, which was my biggest issue w/the Bush-lied folks.

Nukes are NOT the only type of WMD. WMD include chemical and biological weapons which Hussein used.

Most of the Bush lied folks I argued w/did not realize that WMD is not necessarily nuclear.

The THREAT of adding nukes to the equation was part of the THREAT picture of Iraq and was PART of the justification for going in.

Were WMD the WHOLE justification, would we not be in North Korea already? They have nukes and support terrorism yes?

In arguments w/same folks, I’d ask “so if they had nukes you’d support an invasion?”

To cover they’re butts on prior ridiculous claims they’d invariably say “yes”.

“So you’d support an invasion of North Korea?” I ask.

“Uhhhh...” they respond.


10 posted on 12/09/2010 6:52:30 AM PST by fruser1
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To: safetysign

Hey WikiLeaks! Where’s the REALLY good stuff?

Rush Limbaugh Wants Julian Assange To Find the Really Good Stuff
Glynnis MacNicol | Dec. 7, 2010, 10:05 AM | 440 |
http://www.businessinsider.com/rush-limbaugh-wants-julian-assange-to-find-obamas-birth-certificate-2010-12

If WikiLeaks TMZ ever becomes a reality maybe Rush could have his own segment. From yesterday’s radio show:

“Where are the WikiLeaks documents to prove 9/11 was inside job by George Bush and Dick Cheney? Let me ask you liberals, where are these cables?

“Where are the documents to prove Bush intentionally lied about weapons of mass destruction in Iraq in order to invade the country?

Where is the WikiLeaks document, the State Department cable, whatever, that [Karl] Rove leaked Valerie Plame’s name to the media?

Where’s all this good stuff? ...

“Where are the WikiLeaks cables proving that the CIA invented AIDS? Where is Obama’s birth certificate? Where’s the real good stuff?

And how about all the hundreds of other left-wing lies we’ve been hearing about for years?

[Is] WikiLeaks covering up for the United States?”

bttt


11 posted on 12/09/2010 6:53:48 AM PST by Matchett-PI ( Sarah Palin / Marco Rubio - a "can't lose" ticket for 2012..)
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To: safetysign
In 2008, our military shipped out of Iraq ... 550 metric tons of the supposedly nonexistent yellowcake.
The lead story on MSNBCCNNABCNBC and cBS tonight! Oh wait ...

P.S. This is the stuff that Iran just announced they're now manufacturing too.
12 posted on 12/09/2010 6:54:34 AM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: safetysign
Oh, man...Paul Greengrass and Matt Damon are going to be so sad, since the movie “The Green Zone” is based on the lie that there were no WMD’s in Iraq and had not been for over 10 years. In the movie, leadership in America and the CIA had fabricated the whole story because the Bush administration wanted to invade Iraq.

Poor Hollywood lefties.

13 posted on 12/09/2010 6:54:38 AM PST by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51. Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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To: ClearCase_guy
That jerky inspector said it best..."If they have them, we'll never find them unless they take us to them."

One of the big things still remained...the duel use items.

14 posted on 12/09/2010 6:55:36 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: safetysign
"W"'s vindication will occur when a full digitally prepared 3-D movie is made ~ and not before.

No live actors, produces, directors or cinematographers can be trusted in the matter.

15 posted on 12/09/2010 6:55:54 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: safetysign
The Only presdients in my time that was there for the people of this country was Ronald Reagan and George Bush.. The total idiots we have now are there for one reason and that is to take down this wonderful country..
16 posted on 12/09/2010 6:57:35 AM PST by PLD
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To: fruser1

Ann Coulter said it best -

libs always want to attack the country we’re currently not at war with


17 posted on 12/09/2010 6:59:43 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a (de)humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: safetysign

“When Hollywood makes “The Vindication of George W. Bush,”

hell will freeze over


18 posted on 12/09/2010 7:00:59 AM PST by vanilla swirl (We are the Patrick Henry we have been waiting for!)
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To: safetysign

ping


19 posted on 12/09/2010 7:01:51 AM PST by ocr1 (really?.. Really?)
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To: safetysign

Well, that we DIDN’T find them is proof enough that they were there.

If we had went over there KNOWING that there were no WMD’s enough would have been ‘planted’ and ‘found’ to justify the actions.

OH BTW
I always though yellow cakes were found in mens rest rooms that don’t get cleaned very often....


20 posted on 12/09/2010 7:02:56 AM PST by xrmusn ((6/98))
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To: Matchett-PI

Assaunge said 9/11 was not a conspiracy that’s when liberals started to hate him. I think he shed light on some things the world should know for instance how the Arabs really feel about Iran.

“I’m constantly annoyed that people are distracted by false conspiracies such as 9/11, when all around we provide evidence of real conspiracies, for war or mass financial fraud,”

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/lifestyle/features/wanted-by-the-cia-wikileaks-founder-julian-assange-14880073.html


21 posted on 12/09/2010 7:02:56 AM PST by FromLori (FromLori)
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To: xrmusn

Haha,

I saw a sign in a restroom in Clovis, NM. “Texans, please don’t eat the urinal wafers!”


22 posted on 12/09/2010 7:24:49 AM PST by MisterArtery
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To: safetysign
When Hollywood makes "The Vindication of George W. Bush," maybe Sean Penn can play the lead.

ROTFLOL

23 posted on 12/09/2010 7:37:30 AM PST by beachn4fun (You are either an American - or not!)
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To: BwanaNdege

Gray up his hair and I think Alec Baldwin could do a pretty credible Dubya.

< snorts >


24 posted on 12/09/2010 7:37:49 AM PST by pillut48 (Israel doesn't have a friend in President Obama...and neither does the USA! (h/t pgkdan))
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To: pillut48
I'd rather Nathan Fillion. He can at least to a credible midwest accent.

Shalom.

25 posted on 12/09/2010 7:42:38 AM PST by Buggman (returnofbenjamin.wordpress.com - Baruch haBa b'Shem ADONAI!)
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To: safetysign
This was reported at the time and was downplayed by all. I never saw it mentioned on tv at all.

http://articles.cnn.com/2008-07-07/us/iraq.uranium_1_yellowcake-uranium-cameco?_s=PM:US

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25546334/'


http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,376747,00.html
26 posted on 12/09/2010 7:48:08 AM PST by texas_mrs
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To: ClearCase_guy
I have always believed there were WMD in Iraq.

Some building on several bases were absolutely off limits to all personnel, because those entering without protective gear got very, very sick very quickly.

And that was all that was ever said about them...

27 posted on 12/09/2010 7:51:36 AM PST by gov_bean_ counter ( I can see 2012 from my cubicle...)
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To: Buggman

I think it would be a better punishment for Alec (who’d also have to lose about a hundred pounds and take up running to get in shape like Dubya!) :-)

But I can see Nathan in the role as well.


28 posted on 12/09/2010 7:52:34 AM PST by pillut48 (Israel doesn't have a friend in President Obama...and neither does the USA! (h/t pgkdan))
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To: safetysign

So . . . it was the MSM that was lying to us about the WMD and not W . . . imagine that . . . who’da ever thunk????


29 posted on 12/09/2010 7:55:53 AM PST by RatRipper (I'll ride a turtle to work every day before I buy anything from Government Motors.)
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To: safetysign
Big Yellow cake bump!

Yaaarrrrgghhhh!

30 posted on 12/09/2010 8:12:03 AM PST by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: safetysign

In Iraq ‘04 - ‘07 Coalition troops recovered numerous chemical weapon artillery rounds and were subject to several chemical weapon IEDs, usually mustard gas. Never-made-the-news. Saddam used WMDs on his own people for cripes sakes so it’s well known he had them.

WTF is wrong with liberals? Oh yeah, they hate freedom.


31 posted on 12/09/2010 8:13:18 AM PST by Justa
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To: Liberty Valance

President Black Bush: I didn't want to say this. The mofo bought yellow cake. All right! From Africa. He went to Africa and bought some yellow cake.
News Reporter: Are you sure?
President Black Bush: Yes! I'm sure, bitch!

32 posted on 12/09/2010 8:16:08 AM PST by dfwgator (Congratulations to Josh Hamilton - AL MVP)
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To: safetysign
In 2008, our military shipped out of Iraq -- on 37 flights in 3,500 barrels -- what even The Associated Press called "the last major remnant of Saddam Hussein's nuclear program": 550 metric tons of the supposedly nonexistent yellowcake.

This has been known, though not trumpeted, for at least two years.

What in the Wikileaks constitutes new information?

33 posted on 12/09/2010 8:17:37 AM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: dfwgator

LOL!


34 posted on 12/09/2010 8:18:46 AM PST by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Probably because this was highly classified military info, a matter of national security, and the Bush administration cared more about this country than about its own reputation.

Bush himself has repeatedly said that history will tell the true tale.


35 posted on 12/09/2010 8:21:48 AM PST by Jedidah
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To: safetysign

I’ve read and heard this info from a variety of sources for days.

I’d like a link to the actual text of these documents, if it exists.


36 posted on 12/09/2010 8:22:58 AM PST by Jedidah
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To: Jedidah
"I’d like a link to the actual text of these documents, if it exists."

Haven't you heard? If you've ever been a govt employee, in military service, ever received a check from the govt or been to a 4th of July parade or voted you're not supposed to want to see any of these documents.

37 posted on 12/09/2010 8:29:50 AM PST by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: All
I highly recommend reading these two books in turn:

My Journey, by Tony Blair, and

Decision Points, by George W. Bush.

Both are valuable for the insight they give into the reasoning of these world leaders and for arguments that can be articulated to counter the pernicious anti-war, immoral hogwash of the Left.

If you happen to be a person who thinks Bush or Blair were failures, I recommend even more highly having an open mind and at least hearing each man out as to his side of the story.

38 posted on 12/09/2010 8:33:27 AM PST by fightinJAG (Americans: the only people in the world protesting AGAINST government "benefits.")
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To: fruser1

Good one!


39 posted on 12/09/2010 8:35:26 AM PST by fightinJAG (Americans: the only people in the world protesting AGAINST government "benefits.")
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To: ClearCase_guy

Tony Blair spends a lot of time in his book, in a couple of especially fascinating chapters, detailing the evidence and the uphill political climate that developed. His conclusion, which he supports with ample, neutral evidence, was that Saddam Hussein was even MORE dangerous than they thought before going into Iraq.

Had Bush and Blair, and our nations’ respective military forces, not hung tough, Saddam would likely be alive and armed — or very nearly armed — with WMD today.


40 posted on 12/09/2010 8:38:49 AM PST by fightinJAG (Americans: the only people in the world protesting AGAINST government "benefits.")
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To: Matchett-PI

Yes, bttt!


41 posted on 12/09/2010 8:39:48 AM PST by fightinJAG (Americans: the only people in the world protesting AGAINST government "benefits.")
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To: vanilla swirl

I am encouraged that over one million people have bought, and probably many more have read, Dubya’s book. It, along with Tony Blair’s book, contains the information and analysis that will form the vindication of history.

As more people reflect on what actually occurred during those years, I believe that reflection will reinforce our resolve to resist the corruption of our own form of government from within and to support the cause of freedom here and abroad.


42 posted on 12/09/2010 8:43:32 AM PST by fightinJAG (Americans: the only people in the world protesting AGAINST government "benefits.")
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To: safetysign
550 metric tons of the supposedly nonexistent yellowcake

Liberals will just say that it was old. They will just say that it was from the time that Iraq was trying to build a nuclear power plant (for peaceful purposes of course, like Iran is doing now). If it's "old" then its ok.

43 posted on 12/09/2010 8:44:37 AM PST by techcor (I hope Obama succeeds... in becoming a one term president.)
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To: pillut48

I’d go for Daniel Baldwin!

O/t, Daniel Baldwin stars in a nice made-for-tv movie now showing on GMC, “Christmas with a Capital C.”


44 posted on 12/09/2010 8:45:41 AM PST by fightinJAG (Americans: the only people in the world protesting AGAINST government "benefits.")
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To: texas_mrs

I seem to remember Hannity going over this same ground, almost day after day, trying to get traction for the story and others on WMD and the WMD program in Iraq. We forget how difficult it was to overcome the “Bush lied, people died” garbage.


45 posted on 12/09/2010 8:47:59 AM PST by fightinJAG (Americans: the only people in the world protesting AGAINST government "benefits.")
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To: RatRipper

The irony is that one of the things that greatly strengthened the ability of the LSM to make their lie stick was Dubya’s general and falling unpopularity — which was based primarily on conservatives deserting him over various issues.

His popularity would never have tanked as much as it did if he had only lost Independents and wayward Rats. It was conservative disapproval that took him into the poll cellar and left him with little political capital.

Same with Blair and the Left abandoning him. The thing about Blair, though, was that his base disagreed with him on the war from the get-go. They just disagreed with him more as time went on.


46 posted on 12/09/2010 8:52:48 AM PST by fightinJAG (Americans: the only people in the world protesting AGAINST government "benefits.")
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To: FromLori

Paging Rosie O’Donnell!


47 posted on 12/09/2010 8:53:38 AM PST by fightinJAG (Americans: the only people in the world protesting AGAINST government "benefits.")
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Lefties still throw this out. “Senate Intelligence Report Claim of No Saddam Al-Qaeda Ties.” http://intelligence.senate.gov/phaseiiaccuracy.pdf
And ignore much. -—> Stephen F. Hayes How Bad Is the Senate Intelligence Report? Very Bad - The Weekly Standard 09/18/06 | (Claim of No Saddam-Al Qaeda Ties is Rubbish)

“According to a report released September 8 by the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence, Saddam Hussein “was resistant to cooperating with al Qaeda or any other Islamist groups.” It’s an odd claim. Saddam Hussein’s regime has a long and well-documented history of cooperating with Islamists, including al Qaeda and its affiliates....”
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1705795/posts


48 posted on 12/09/2010 8:56:22 AM PST by anglian
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To: ClearCase_guy
This just made me crazy! We all saw the videos of the trucks leaving Iraq. We all knew what was in those trucks. Why didn't Bush stand up for himself?

I do hope WikiLeaks screams this info loud enough so it can't be ignored!

49 posted on 12/09/2010 9:07:35 AM PST by CAluvdubya (Palin 2012...YOU BETCHA!.)
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To: MisterArtery

I saw a sign in a restroom in Clovis, NM. “Texans, please don’t eat the urinal wafers!”
= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =


Yes, right next to the one that read

“Please don’t throw butts in the urinal.
They get soggy and are hard to light”.


50 posted on 12/09/2010 9:24:31 AM PST by xrmusn ((6/98))
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