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Social Security: Successful Failure (success with citizens who've opted into group subjugation)
American Thinker ^ | 12/19/2010 | Marc H. Rudov

Posted on 12/09/2010 7:52:47 AM PST by SeekAndFind

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To: TruthConquers
If they could eliminate aging, people could work longer and not retire. If they could cure the major diseases, people would be less of a cost burden to the healthcare system.

However...

There would be the overpopulation issue since people would be living a lot longer.

21 posted on 12/09/2010 9:30:36 AM PST by dhs12345
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“If they could eliminate aging, people could work longer and not retire. “

Actually, I think they are planning on eliminating aging, but not by have people live longer.. it’s called a “death panel.”... same result, and don’t have to worry about overpopulation, either. :-(


22 posted on 12/09/2010 9:34:29 AM PST by Aunt Polgara
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To: SeekAndFind

If SS had been kept on a ‘ what you put in is what you get out plus time earnings’ it would have been sustainable even though government bureaucrats had their hands in the pot. What happened is SS became the big pot for all of the intents of the aforementioned government bureaucrats. So it became a realism that what was taken in was not enough for an honest return for contributors because all these other social/socialistic programs were also feeding at the trough. Think of SSI, aid to dependent people and families. If you don’t believe immigrants,legal and illegal, don’t suck up a lot of social funding your world is different than mine. Yes it is true that todays contributors are right in fearing their contributions are in a sink hole. The irony for them is that so many of them believe, push and support others who will take their money and use it for the social justice they themselves advocate.


23 posted on 12/09/2010 9:49:33 AM PST by noinfringers2
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If SS had been kept on a ‘ what you put in is what you get out plus time earnings’ it would have been sustainable even though government bureaucrats had their hands in the pot. What happened is SS became the big pot for all of the intents of the aforementioned government bureaucrats. So it became a realism that what was taken in was not enough for an honest return for contributors because all these other social/socialistic programs were also feeding at the trough. Think of SSI, aid to dependent people and families. If you don’t believe immigrants,legal and illegal, don’t suck up a lot of social funding your world is different than mine. Yes it is true that todays contributors are right in fearing their contributions are in a sink hole. The irony for them is that so many of them believe, push and support others who will take their money and use it for the social justice they themselves advocate.


24 posted on 12/09/2010 9:50:03 AM PST by noinfringers2
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We are not a free people because we are forced by our government to contribute 15.3% of our income to this scheme. Our only choice is to defy the government completely and not pay our income taxes (also supposedly voluntary?)
Not everyone sees the 15.3%, only the self employed and those who Democrats often portray as the “rich”. Others don’t understand that the tax is actually 15.3% of every income to a certain point which seems to rise every year. Their employer voluntarily contributes half of the 15.3% on the employee’s behalf.
15.3% should be a GREAT investment. Full faith and confidence in the US govs ability to help us all, right?

However, you have absolutely NO say on how this money is “invested” on your behalf. Supposedly your 15.3% is in a LOCKBOX and is totally safe and secure and you can live happily ever after knowing this, right? They took the 15.3% and they spent the money., You didn’t know that. YOU were told all is well, right?
But now you discover that you are part of a BABY BOOM and you did not have enough children to replace you, let alone multiply (birth control and abortions) and now you have to face the fact that the “lock box” has been robbed and is empty and YOU have to pay the consequences. Are you angry? Do you want your so called safe investment back?

Are you a socialist because you want your investment back?

I don’t think so, sorry.


25 posted on 12/09/2010 11:19:51 PM PST by tinamina
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