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House, Senate on Collision Course After Dems Reject Tax Cut Bill
Fox ^ | December 09, 2010

Posted on 12/09/2010 12:57:57 PM PST by Red Steel

The House and Senate appear to be on a collision course over President Obama's controversial tax plan, after House Democrats voted to block the package from coming to the floor in its current form.

Though the vote was not binding, the House Democratic caucus on Thursday approved a measure by Rep. Peter DeFazio, D-Ore., effectively rejecting the GOP-negotiated deal unless and until a majority of Democrats support it. One Democratic leadership aide said the vote "shows how much the White House screwed this up."

Senate Republican Leader Mitch McConnell, meanwhile, told Fox News he expects the Senate to take up the bill anyway without any substantive changes Thursday afternoon. He predicted the measure would pass, a belief echoed by a number of Senate Democratic aides interviewed by Fox News. But that would send the bill straight to the House, where some members are mounting a rebellion.

"If it's take it or leave it, we'll leave it," said Rep. Lloyd Doggett, D-Texas, after the caucus vote Thursday, adding that he thinks House Speaker Nancy Pelosi will take her cue from the caucus. ...

Rep. Jim McDermott, D-Wash., said "it's a pretty clear message. We don't like the bill."

(Excerpt) Read more at foxnews.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Front Page News; Government
KEYWORDS: bushtaxcuts; lameduck; tax

1 posted on 12/09/2010 12:58:01 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel

Headline should read “House Democrats throw middle and low income taxpayers under the bus.”


2 posted on 12/09/2010 1:00:43 PM PST by VRWCmember
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To: Red Steel

This is so sweet seeing these traitors sweat.


3 posted on 12/09/2010 1:01:17 PM PST by SonofReagan
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To: SonofReagan
I love it. this will kill all other bills.

GOP comes in and makes it retroactive and a better bill.

4 posted on 12/09/2010 1:04:31 PM PST by scooby321
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To: Red Steel
opportunity for the gop to push for a better deal. no ties to ei.
5 posted on 12/09/2010 1:06:59 PM PST by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: scooby321

One thing all Americans understand is how much money they bring home each paycheck.


6 posted on 12/09/2010 1:08:47 PM PST by maxter (Sarah 2012.... just for the halibut.)
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To: Red Steel

Fine...let this compromise bill die, and then come back in January with a bill that the new conservatives in the GOP will craft. Bill Clinton made his tax hikes retroactive to the beginning of the tax year in which it was passed, so
Republicans can make the current tax rate retroactive to Jan. 1, and they can make them PERMANENT. It’s a beautiful thing.


7 posted on 12/09/2010 1:09:42 PM PST by kittymyrib
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To: Red Steel

Heh, remember how much of a ruckus they raised about Republicans sending stuff back?


8 posted on 12/09/2010 1:11:18 PM PST by RWB Patriot ("My ability is a value that must be purchased and I don't recognize anyone's need as a claim on me.")
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To: RWB Patriot

Democrats: The party of no. Where are these headlines media douches?


9 posted on 12/09/2010 1:14:42 PM PST by trappedincanuckistan (livefreeordietryin)
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To: Red Steel

Its not a TAX CUT. It’s keeping the status quo. We still need Tax Cuts, lower taxes more, that is the only thing that will bring back the economy.


10 posted on 12/09/2010 1:14:52 PM PST by agincourt1415 (Republicans please don't mess up this chance! Elect REAL Conservatives 2010! PERFECT STORM!)
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To: Red Steel
House, Senate on Collision Course After Dems Reject Tax Cut Bill

What tax cut, did I miss something?

11 posted on 12/09/2010 1:18:26 PM PST by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: VRWCmember

/bingo


12 posted on 12/09/2010 1:19:23 PM PST by SunkenCiv (The 2nd Amendment follows right behind the 1st because some people are hard of hearing.)
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To: STARWISE; ForGod'sSake; AdmSmith; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; bigheadfred; ColdOne; ...
on a collision course over President Obama's controversial tax plan
Gotta love that -- "President Obama's controversial tax plan". Chew on that, ya chain-smokin' Kenyan Moslem moron! Thanks Red Steel.
13 posted on 12/09/2010 1:21:24 PM PST by SunkenCiv (The 2nd Amendment follows right behind the 1st because some people are hard of hearing.)
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To: Red Steel

I guess the 2011 Congress will just have to pass t retroactively. Pelosi just wants to remind everyone why so many Rats lost their seats in November and fired her as Speaker of the House.


14 posted on 12/09/2010 1:24:58 PM PST by KansasGirl
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To: agincourt1415

You are correct, a less biases headline would read, House Democrats fight for Tax Increases!


15 posted on 12/09/2010 1:26:29 PM PST by KansasGirl
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To: paul51
opportunity for the gop to push for a better deal. no ties to ei.

Amen, as well as a SSI tax cut for both employer and employee. And a real Income TAX CUT, not the status quo BUSH stuff.

16 posted on 12/09/2010 1:28:21 PM PST by frogjerk (I believe in unicorns, fairies and pro-life Democrats.)
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To: KansasGirl
why so many Rats lost their seats in November and fired her as Speaker of the House.

Hmmm...that raises a question for me: she was selected Minority Leader by what amounts to the prior Democratic caucus, at least 63 members of whom will be seeking alternative employment in three weeks.

Is it conceivable that the coming caucus might not force a vote and elect someone else, once her voting bloc is gone?

17 posted on 12/09/2010 1:30:29 PM PST by BelegStrongbow (St. Joseph, patron of fathers, pray for us!)
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To: KansasGirl
“House Democrats fight for Tax Increases!”

If they get their way, the lowest tax bracket (10%) will get hit the worst with a 50% increase (to 15%).

Yep, your Democratic party at work - bend over and hold your ankles America!

18 posted on 12/09/2010 1:32:15 PM PST by Gabrial (The Whitehouse Nightmare will continue as long as the Nightmare is in the Whitehouse)
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To: Red Steel

I would pay to see the fallout if the Dems go ahead and cancel all tax cuts. Maybe late-minute negotiation about canning the unemployment checks would drive them over the edge.


19 posted on 12/09/2010 1:32:43 PM PST by LurkedLongEnough
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To: VRWCmember
Headline should read “House Democrats throw middle and low income taxpayers under the bus.”

No conservative could vote for this bill....increases in spending and increases in the deficit....they still don't get it. Passage of the bill would be a victory for Obama and RINOs.

20 posted on 12/09/2010 1:37:04 PM PST by Prokopton
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To: Red Steel

The GOP shouldn’t like it either. It’s a RINO bill.


21 posted on 12/09/2010 1:46:36 PM PST by GeronL (#7 top poster at CC, friend to all, nicest guy ever, +96/-14, ignored by 1 sockpuppet.. oh & BANNED)
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To: Prokopton

Dont forget all those log term unemployed too!

They let them fall by the wayside too.


22 posted on 12/09/2010 1:54:24 PM PST by CPT Clay (Pick up your weapon and follow me.)
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To: Red Steel

I love it when “adults” are in charge. Hee-hee!


23 posted on 12/09/2010 2:07:53 PM PST by truthkeeper ( God is great, beer is good, and people are crazy.)
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To: VRWCmember
It should really be "House Democrats throw taxpayers under the bus."

This is not a knock against you, VRWCmember. I have a really stick up my you know what about using the term 'low income taxpayers'. Yes, while a few at the very top of that bracket pay some taxes, the vast majority pay absolutely zero. I also don't like using the terms lower, middle, and upper because it's often used to breed class warfare and class racism.

24 posted on 12/09/2010 2:08:46 PM PST by LoneStarGI (Vegetarian: Old Indian word for "BAD HUNTER.")
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To: kittymyrib
Republicans can make the current tax rate retroactive to Jan. 1, and they can make them PERMANENT. It’s a beautiful thing.

Yes, that is a beautiful thing, but what are the chances it would also pass the Senate AND be signed by Obama? One thing I can not imagine him doing is making these low rates permanent. No way. I think the two-year extension is the best we're going to get from this administration.
25 posted on 12/09/2010 2:14:20 PM PST by Deo volente (God willing, America will survive this Obamination.)
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To: Red Steel

The stupid Dimbo caucus vote is non-binding...meaningless...just putting on a show for their boss Soros..


26 posted on 12/09/2010 2:23:04 PM PST by Fred (Suspend All Immigration Until Unemployment is Reduced to 5%)
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To: All

Maybe I don’t know the logistics on this, but I think a GOP House that gets a tax cut extension or permanence bill thru the Senate would then face an Obama “signing statement”.

It’s not unheard of for signatures to reinterpret text.


27 posted on 12/09/2010 2:37:49 PM PST by Owen
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To: Fred

The Republicans should just walk out!

They negotiate a deal in ‘good faith’ with Zero, and the demonic-rats vote it down.

If they walk out, the demonic-rats will have to pass the Bush tax rates without a single Republican vote; or be responsible for tax increases on the poor and no extension of jobless benefits.

They would howl for being forced to admit they idiots.


28 posted on 12/09/2010 3:06:30 PM PST by CoastWatcher
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To: kittymyrib

I thought I read that the GOP House leadership already chose committee leaders and no new Tea Party Pubbies where selected?


29 posted on 12/09/2010 3:36:06 PM PST by John 3_19-21 (The Tea Party will be heard Mr. Speaker!)
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To: kittymyrib
Republicans can make the current tax rate retroactive to Jan. 1, and they can make them PERMANENT. It’s a beautiful thing.

That would be great.

But...to make them permanent, they not only have to pass the GOP House (a given), they also need 60 votes in the Democrat Senate (improbable, but not impossible) and avoid a veto by Obama (at this stage, I've no idea what he might do...but I'm not very hopeful).

Don't count your chickens...

30 posted on 12/09/2010 3:41:18 PM PST by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance on Parade)
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To: John 3_19-21
I thought I read that the GOP House leadership already chose committee leaders and no new Tea Party Pubbies where selected?

You wouldn't expect any freshmen Congressman to Chair a Committee. For good reasons.

31 posted on 12/09/2010 3:42:55 PM PST by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance on Parade)
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To: okie01

Perhaps, however a 64 member swing brings with it a sizable mandate one would think.


32 posted on 12/09/2010 3:53:16 PM PST by John 3_19-21 (The Tea Party will be heard Mr. Speaker!)
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To: LoneStarGI
I have a really stick up my you know what about using the term 'low income taxpayers'.

My point is that in their determined zeal to punish the evil upper income (those with household income > $250K) the house democrats are throwing all the rest of the taxpayers (i.e. those with income <$250K) under the bus.

33 posted on 12/09/2010 3:55:56 PM PST by VRWCmember
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To: John 3_19-21
Perhaps, however a 64 member swing brings with it a sizable mandate one would think.

However, you see how much ice that is cutting the Dem caucus right now.

Problem is, we're dealing with a bunch of irrational socialists and a committed anti-American ideologue.

34 posted on 12/09/2010 3:57:34 PM PST by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance on Parade)
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To: BelegStrongbow
Is it conceivable that the coming caucus might not force a vote and elect someone else, once her voting bloc is gone?

It's unlikely. After all, the 63 DEmocrat Congressmen who will be MIA come January were mostly of the moderate/"blue dog" stripe.

On balance, the election results tended to make the Democrat caucus in the House even more radical than it was.

Recall that, when she announced her intention not to step down, Pelosi remarked that she believed her calling was "to keep the President from giving it all away".

Consequently, expect the Democrat caucus to continue to act like a bunch of malignant spoiled children for the next two years.

35 posted on 12/09/2010 4:09:31 PM PST by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance on Parade)
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To: Red Steel

If the House Rats don’t vote for this before Congress adjourns, taxes will increase by the highest amount in U.S. history on ALL taxpayers, and in two years the Rats will lose another 63 seats in the House!


36 posted on 12/09/2010 5:29:47 PM PST by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Made from The Right Stuff!)
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To: catnipman

That would be really good,...might be worth the price.


37 posted on 12/09/2010 5:47:34 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I predict horrible violence like we have not seen since the war against states rights.


38 posted on 12/09/2010 6:48:03 PM PST by Benchim
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To: Benchim

Yes, there may be violense. But, until 150 million leftists are killed by their own governments there is no social justice.


39 posted on 12/09/2010 7:10:18 PM PST by MtnClimber (Osama and Obama both hate freedom and have friends that bombed the Pentagon)
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To: Benchim

Yes, there may be violense. But, until 150 million leftists are killed by their own governments there is no social justice.


40 posted on 12/09/2010 7:11:57 PM PST by MtnClimber (Osama and Obama both hate freedom and have friends that bombed the Pentagon)
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To: Red Steel

Great.
Let’s just pass a better bill in January.


41 posted on 12/09/2010 9:15:51 PM PST by devere
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To: okie01

Send them to Gitmo.


42 posted on 12/10/2010 1:31:11 AM PST by screaminsunshine (Americanism vs Communism)
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To: okie01

Gotcha. Not a good prospect for us at all.


43 posted on 12/10/2010 3:19:39 AM PST by BelegStrongbow (St. Joseph, patron of fathers, pray for us!)
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To: KansasGirl

“I guess the 2011 Congress will just have to pass t retroactively. Pelosi just wants to remind everyone why so many Rats lost their seats in November and fired her as Speaker of the House.”

The federal govt should just confiscate all of the wealth from San Francisco. That should do it.


44 posted on 12/12/2010 2:04:09 PM PST by Constitutional Patriot (Socialism is the cancer of humanity.)
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