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Montana honor student faces expulsion over gun in trunk
KTVQ.com ^ | December 8, 2010 | Andrea Lutz

Posted on 12/09/2010 3:31:03 PM PST by Fiji Hill

Montana honor student faces expulsion over gun in trunk

Posted: Dec 8, 2010 7:24 AM by Andrea Lutz - Montana's News Station
Updated: Dec 8, 2010 8:00 AM

COLUMBIA FALLS, MT - Demarie DeReu, a 16-year-old honor student at Columbia Falls High School, is facing expulsion after leaving her hunting rifle in her vehicle on school grounds.

DeReu, who is also a member of the Student Council and a varsity cheerleader, told Montana's News Station that she had no intention of breaking any rules or laws, or harming anyone.

She went hunting over the Thanksgiving holiday with her family and forgot to unpack the rifle; it remained unloaded in a case in the trunk of her car.

Upon hearing that a "contraband dog" was to be working the school parking lot, DeRue remembered her unloaded hunting rifle in the trunk of her car and promptly informed school officials.

A meeting is now set for Monday, December 13, at 6 p.m. where DeRue will face an expulsion hearing before the local school board.

The district has a "zero tolerance" policy about guns in schools.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: Montana
KEYWORDS: schools; zerotolerance
Yet another "zero tolerance" outrage. Do a "zero tolerance" keyword search on this site and you will find hundreds of similar incidents from every part of the country.

Why is there such a lack of common sense among those who run our schools?

1 posted on 12/09/2010 3:31:06 PM PST by Fiji Hill
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To: Fiji Hill

I suggest everyone in Montana, get out as fast as possible.


2 posted on 12/09/2010 3:34:54 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit.)
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To: Fiji Hill

she should let the idiots kick her out....the school loses a great student.....hopefully there is a private HS she can finish up in or start college early....


3 posted on 12/09/2010 3:35:20 PM PST by cherry
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To: cherry

Public government schools are for losers.


4 posted on 12/09/2010 3:36:00 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit.)
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To: Fiji Hill
Why is there such a lack of common sense among those who run our schools?

Lack of common sense is the only subject taught in government schools.

This young woman has learned the only lesson that public school can teach her, that she should have been home-schooled or privately schooled.

5 posted on 12/09/2010 3:40:05 PM PST by Navy Patriot (Sarah and the Conservatives will rock your world.)
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To: dragnet2
I suggest everyone in Montana, get out as fast as possible.

One would expect such an outrage in Berkeley, West Hollywood, or Greenwich Village, not Montana. However, such incidents are occurring in urban as well as rural schools, and in "red" as well as "blue" states.

6 posted on 12/09/2010 3:40:46 PM PST by Fiji Hill
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To: Fiji Hill

COLUMBIA FALLS, MT ....

Population ~5000

Size 912.4 acres.

And they have a gun problem?

7 posted on 12/09/2010 3:41:10 PM PST by SeeSac
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To: Fiji Hill

>>DeRue remembered her unloaded hunting rifle in the trunk of her car and promptly informed school officials. <<

There is the problem. She trusted them. They keep proving to be the enemy. It is amazing how people just don’t get it. You NEVER cooperate with the cops beyond what you are required.

If they come to your door, even if you KNOW you are innocent of anything, and politely ask to look around, ALWAYS require a search warrant. Politely, of course.

People do not grasp that the job of the cops is LITERALLY to gain any evidence against you, whoever you are. Their job is to root out and prosecute crime. If this girl had not said anything and the dog found the gun, her position would be no worse than it is now, and she fell for the ol’ “just cooperate and everything will be ok here. Shucks, we’re all just regular folks here” line the police give.

The police are not bad people. They are just the front line to a bad system. It is not personal to them, no matter how they make it sound that way. Don’t let it be personal to you. They mean business. That is why they wear guns.


8 posted on 12/09/2010 3:44:34 PM PST by RobRoy (The US Today: Revelation 18:4)
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To: dragnet2

>>Public government schools are for losers.<<

This.


9 posted on 12/09/2010 3:45:59 PM PST by RobRoy (The US Today: Revelation 18:4)
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To: Fiji Hill
We had a rifle team in high school..............

Sheesh!

10 posted on 12/09/2010 3:46:30 PM PST by blackdog
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To: Fiji Hill

Yeah, I read this and said to myself, Et tu, Montana?


11 posted on 12/09/2010 3:47:08 PM PST by RobRoy (The US Today: Revelation 18:4)
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To: RobRoy

Amen, brother.


12 posted on 12/09/2010 3:48:41 PM PST by Repeal The 17th
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To: Navy Patriot

Back when dinosaurs were roaming the earth, I taught high school in a small Wyoming town. Well over half of the student’s vehicles (always Ford pick ups) had gun racks mounted to the rear window with rifles in them. Way of life in the West........sadly, it’s passing.


13 posted on 12/09/2010 3:48:45 PM PST by Rushmore Rocks
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To: blackdog
We had a rifle team in high school........

And we had a gun club at my high school in Southern California.

14 posted on 12/09/2010 3:52:29 PM PST by Fiji Hill
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To: RobRoy
Since when is it the police's job to root out and prosecute crime? That is not at all their job. They pull that crap all the time at our schools. Our didtrict has a lady officer who every monday, tries to buddy-buddy chat it up with the girls to find out who was playing grab-ass with who over the weekend?

She then files sexual assault charges against anyone who played hands in the pants. That's a felony and they have to register as sex offenders. She bags about a dozen during any school year. She charges at least 50. The wealthier families pay their way out, some as much as $30,000 in attorney fees.

15 posted on 12/09/2010 3:53:08 PM PST by blackdog
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To: dragnet2

Government school is institutionalized child abuse. Her parents should homeschool her. She wouldn’t be a “cheerleader”, but she would get a much better education.


16 posted on 12/09/2010 3:53:59 PM PST by achilles2000 ("I'll agree to save the whales as long as we can deport the liberals")
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To: Rushmore Rocks

>>Back when dinosaurs were roaming the earth, I taught high school in a small Wyoming town. Well over half of the student’s vehicles (always Ford pick ups) had gun racks mounted to the rear window with rifles in them. Way of life in the West........sadly, it’s passing.<<

I firmly believe it is coming back, with a vengeance, very soon. No, I’m not joking.

As more and more of this gets exposed for the lunacy it is, people start acting out. Look at all the open carry stuff going on around the country. I am a bit concerned that this country is in a cultural war that has ramped up to the point that it may get hot. And if it does, we all know which side will “win”. I use quotes, because in reality, nobody will win.


17 posted on 12/09/2010 3:54:09 PM PST by RobRoy (The US Today: Revelation 18:4)
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To: blackdog

Nobody has burned her house down or her car out? What a bunch of sheep. If someone came after my son as you just described, it would be, literally, me against them, badge or no badge. It is pure self defense.


18 posted on 12/09/2010 3:57:05 PM PST by RobRoy (The US Today: Revelation 18:4)
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To: Fiji Hill

Montana has been overrun with pussies and idiots. Where did these fools migrate from originally? Surely these decisions are not from the stock that settled the cattle areas of Montana?


19 posted on 12/09/2010 4:07:16 PM PST by vetvetdoug
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To: RobRoy

It has happened. It has not worked out very well for the parents.


20 posted on 12/09/2010 4:08:17 PM PST by blackdog
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To: blackdog

Well, the idea is to not get caught, but be willing to take the consequences if you are. And the goal is to make sure they lose all power, whether you get caught or not.


21 posted on 12/09/2010 4:11:35 PM PST by RobRoy (The US Today: Revelation 18:4)
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To: Fiji Hill

Zero Tolerance is just code for Gun Control Nazis.


22 posted on 12/09/2010 4:12:37 PM PST by UCFRoadWarrior (DREAM Act giving America nightmares)
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To: UCFRoadWarrior

>>Zero Tolerance is just code for Gun Control Nazis.<<

That is pretty much how I see it as well. I do see the modern US public school as poison to children and families. Little good comes of them.


23 posted on 12/09/2010 4:13:52 PM PST by RobRoy (The US Today: Revelation 18:4)
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To: RobRoy
It is the law. How people let such laws get passed, I'm sick over. But having spoken with attorneys who are familiar with this, it is the law. She can arrest a kid for sexual assault because some former girlfriend says he touched her on twenty five occasions. The kid gets 25 charges of sexual assault. Didn't happen on school property, nor during school, but in private homes. It usually takes place when girl is upset because another girl is sucking face with her old boyfriend.

Another one they do, is to arrest you while at home, on the couch watching TV for drunk driving because two hours ago someone at the golf clubhouse saw you drink and then drive home. I'm talking 50 year old men and women, not kids on this part.

24 posted on 12/09/2010 4:16:15 PM PST by blackdog
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To: Fiji Hill

Well, that expulsion will certainly deter the next Columbine from happening...

What’s the point? Either it’s an honest mistake and that’s the end of it—or she intended to kill fellow students. If it’s the latter, what does the threat of expulsion prevent?


25 posted on 12/09/2010 4:17:02 PM PST by mikey_hates_everything
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To: Fiji Hill
She ought not to have informed the "authorities";let the incompetent a**holes find stuff on their own.

I despise all these unwarranted (in all meanings of the word) searches being conducted against Americans at school and work.

26 posted on 12/09/2010 4:17:12 PM PST by hoosierham (Waddaya mean Freedom isn't free ?;will you take a credit card?)
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To: Fiji Hill
"Zero tolerance" = "Zero intelligence"

We used to have gun racks with rifles in them in our HS parking lot and nobody ever got shot or even threatened. I had a beautiful Old Timer knife with a nearly 4-inch locking blade that I wore in a leather case on my belt every day to school. Teachers would even borrow it sometimes.

We have failed to raise several generations correctly.

27 posted on 12/09/2010 4:23:09 PM PST by Pablo64 (Political Correctness is a DISEASE. <==> TRUTH is the CURE.)
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To: Rushmore Rocks
I saw much the similar in California up till 1960, in the scattered suburbs, agricultural and rural areas, and all areas had proud ROTC student units. Coastal towns had Sea Scouts that were aiming for Coast Guard careers.

Things were so normal for ordinary proud American kids.

28 posted on 12/09/2010 4:27:41 PM PST by Navy Patriot (Sarah and the Conservatives will rock your world.)
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To: blackdog
...We had a rifle team in high school...

My high school (Alabama) JROTC rifle range was in the basement under the girls gym.

29 posted on 12/09/2010 4:37:08 PM PST by FReepaholic (Yoiks...and away!!)
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To: vetvetdoug

Sounds like Montana has been overrun by Minnestoopidans. Yes, I live in Minnestoopid.
Hitting a shoe on the ground to knock off the mud is considered out of control violence here. Full scale wussification has been completed. And now we have the psycho for gooberner.


30 posted on 12/09/2010 4:37:54 PM PST by Fred Hayek (FUBO! I salute you with the soles of my shoes.)
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To: hoosierham
She ought not to have informed the "authorities";let the incompetent a**holes find stuff on their own.

That's a life lesson that she will likely learn. No matter how this comes out, she will probably go through the rest of her life with a healthy dose of cynicism and contempt for "authorities."

31 posted on 12/09/2010 4:50:25 PM PST by Fiji Hill
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To: Fiji Hill
Why is there such a lack of common sense among those who run our schools?

Just take a look at who's running the schools...

32 posted on 12/09/2010 4:53:13 PM PST by sionnsar (IranAzadi|5yst3m 0wn3d-it's N0t Y0ur5:SONY|Why are TSA exempt from their own searches?)
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To: Fiji Hill

More liberal insanity!


33 posted on 12/09/2010 4:53:25 PM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, A Matter Of Fact, Not A Matter Of Opinion)
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To: Navy Patriot
I saw much the similar in California up till 1960, in the scattered suburbs, agricultural and rural areas, and all areas had proud ROTC student units. Coastal towns had Sea Scouts that were aiming for Coast Guard careers.

Things were so normal for ordinary proud American kids.

Where I grew up, less than two dozen miles from the Los Angeles city hall, we had a target range in town that even some of my classmates in grade school used.

34 posted on 12/09/2010 4:55:40 PM PST by Fiji Hill
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To: Fiji Hill

I think you’ll find that healthy cynicism and contempt for corrupt,incompetent authorities pretty well defined the American revolutionaries.


35 posted on 12/09/2010 4:58:59 PM PST by hoosierham (Waddaya mean Freedom isn't free ?;will you take a credit card?)
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To: Fiji Hill

The words ‘Zero Tolerance’ tells you exactly who these people are. No more expanation is needed.


36 posted on 12/09/2010 5:17:22 PM PST by maxwellsmart_agent
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To: Fiji Hill
Educrats are the bastard children of the liberal intelligentsia who can do nothing else.
"Zero Tolerance" is another name for "I don't want to make any decisions"!

This is the punishment of the innocent on the alter of "Political Correctness". Shades of Kafka in the inexorable punishment of the guiltless by the workings of the bureaucracy.

37 posted on 12/09/2010 5:19:45 PM PST by SES1066 (Thank you for your vote in November, now let us get to work!)
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To: Fiji Hill

Its time for parents to have zero tolerance for this PC bullshit.
They are our children your salaries are paid by us you school buildings are built with our money. You work for us.
Stop this nonsense or we will take steps to git rid of you.


38 posted on 12/09/2010 5:20:33 PM PST by SECURE AMERICA
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To: SECURE AMERICA
Its time for parents to have zero tolerance for this PC bullshit. They are our children your salaries are paid by us you school buildings are built with our money. You work for us. Stop this nonsense or we will take steps to git rid of you.

The Tea Party movement ought to start getting involved in government at the local level and address problems such as this.

39 posted on 12/09/2010 5:37:14 PM PST by Fiji Hill
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To: dragnet2

The students should all walk out in protest. Someone needs to force commonsense on those imbeciles.


40 posted on 12/09/2010 5:47:58 PM PST by upsdriver (to undo the damage the "intellectual elites" have done. . . . . Sarah Palin for President!)
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To: Fred Hayek

I went to the State Museum back in 1993 there in St. Paul. The sign in roster had a page for every state for visitors to sign, except for Mississippi....I asked the docent why there was no Mississippi page and she said it was because we were racist and backward. Arrogance and liberalism knows no boundaries. This was July 1993. Since then I haven’t had a very good impression of Minnesota..


41 posted on 12/09/2010 6:12:39 PM PST by vetvetdoug
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To: vetvetdoug

Bet she was shocked you were wearing shoes....


42 posted on 12/09/2010 6:14:26 PM PST by susannah59
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To: Fiji Hill

“That’s a life lesson that she will likely learn. No matter how this comes out, she will probably go through the rest of her life with a healthy dose of cynicism and contempt for “authorities”

It does make me wonder where her parents were. Any self-respecting parent would tell their kid to NEVER volunteer information to people who get their rocks off by wrecking the lives of others.

...and we thought only inner-city parents would louses.


43 posted on 12/09/2010 7:09:00 PM PST by BobL
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