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ACLU WARNS SCHOOLS TO SAY "HOLIDAY" VS. "CHRISTMAS"
UC Daily News ^ | December 9, 2010

Posted on 12/09/2010 4:12:22 PM PST by NYer

School superintendents across the state were reminded by the ACLU this week that holiday celebrations focusing primarily on one religious holiday amount to an unconstitutional endorsement of  religion. 

The American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) letter, addressed to 137 public shool leaders across the state, stated that it was responding to a number of complaints from families about school party activites this Christmas season. 

Hedy Weinburg, ACLU executive director in Tennessee, cited several U.S. Supreme Court decisions about the matter.  

But several area citizens, like Jim Brown, think that such admonitions are misguided and potentially dangerous.  Brown commented on the news, saying "We are a Christian nation.  Let's act like it."  and said that he hopes that the teachers and administration will celebrate the Christmas season.  

Said one area teacher (name withheld), "I respect people of different faiths, but that doesn't mean that I'm going to eliminate my own from my work and and my classroom.   I can enjoy Christmas as Christmas without worrying that I'm going to offend someone.   My money still says that I trust in God.   Are they going to stop me from using that, too?" 

The letter was sent from the ACLU to the top administrators across the state.  What those administrators do with the information is yet to be seen. 


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: aclu; christmas; education; holiday
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1 posted on 12/09/2010 4:12:25 PM PST by NYer
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To: wagglebee

Ping!


2 posted on 12/09/2010 4:12:58 PM PST by NYer ("Be kind to every person you meet. For every person is fighting a great battle." St. Ephraim)
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To: NYer

3 posted on 12/09/2010 4:13:52 PM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country! What else needs said?)
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To: NYer

The ACLU is a curse upon our nation.


4 posted on 12/09/2010 4:13:52 PM PST by Faith
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To: NYer

How about we all bombard the ACLU with religious Christmas cards this year like, “Jesus is the reason for the season.”


5 posted on 12/09/2010 4:14:32 PM PST by Pinkbell
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To: NYer

How about we all bombard the ACLU with religious Christmas cards this year like, “Jesus is the reason for the season.”?


6 posted on 12/09/2010 4:14:46 PM PST by Pinkbell
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To: NYer

Schools are not “Congress”.


7 posted on 12/09/2010 4:16:10 PM PST by ROTB (Sans Christian revival, we are government slaves, or nuked by China/Russia when we finally revolt.)
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To: NYer

Christmas Day is a Legal United States Holiday and State Holiday on all USA calendars and public school calendars.


8 posted on 12/09/2010 4:16:19 PM PST by bunkerhill7
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To: Pinkbell

Yep! I send ‘em one every year, just to say Merry CHRISTmas.

Here’s their address, if you want to do the same:

American Civil Liberties Union
125 Broad Street, 18th Floor
New York, NY 10004-2400

Well, that was their address for donations, at least. I’m sure it will work.

PS - I’m adding the American Atheists to my card list this year, too.


9 posted on 12/09/2010 4:16:27 PM PST by Zarro (Hands off Our Junk!)
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To: Faith

All Christians Lets Unite.


10 posted on 12/09/2010 4:16:27 PM PST by JPG (Sarah dedicated her new book to Trig: "I'm glad you're here.")
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To: NYer

I had to go to the site to find out what state this article was talking about. I wish people would include that info.

It’s TN, btw.

I think everyone has had just about enough of this anti Christmas crap & will ignore anything the ACLU has to say.


11 posted on 12/09/2010 4:17:28 PM PST by jazminerose (o)
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Up yours ACLU, and have a very Merry Christmas!


12 posted on 12/09/2010 4:18:01 PM PST by Gene Eric (Your Hope has been redistributed. Here's your Change.)
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To: NYer

Pls ignore prior rant, I didn’t read the posting carefully enough. Sorry. My bad. Long day.


13 posted on 12/09/2010 4:18:51 PM PST by jazminerose (o)
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To: NYer

Why can’t WikiLeaks hit the ACLU and DNC?!


14 posted on 12/09/2010 4:19:48 PM PST by US Navy Vet
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To: Pinkbell

Exactly. There would be no “holiday” if it weren’t for the birth of Christ.


15 posted on 12/09/2010 4:19:48 PM PST by dandiegirl
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To: Faith

I’d love to see all 137 of them tell the ACLU to go p!$$ up a rope.


16 posted on 12/09/2010 4:20:09 PM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (NASA? Muslims? Muslims will want to go to the moon only when Israel sets up shop there.)
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To: Gene Eric

Amen


17 posted on 12/09/2010 4:20:19 PM PST by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is brewing!! Nuke the corrupt commie bastards to HELL!!)
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To: bunkerhill7

Don’t think that they are not working to change that.


18 posted on 12/09/2010 4:21:05 PM PST by Michael.SF. (Current count of friends/family who have abandoned Obama: 11)
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To: NYer
The same ACLU that sees no problem with the TSA's groping of women and children?

I don't see how anyone could bring themselves to contribute to such a farcical organization.

19 posted on 12/09/2010 4:21:05 PM PST by snowsislander (Chicago-style politics at a national level is a national disgrace.)
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To: NYer
I put a sign on my door this year that states:

Warning, political correctness will not be tolerated in this house!

20 posted on 12/09/2010 4:24:00 PM PST by Ben Mugged (Your refusing to accept the facts doesn't change the facts. Matt Dillon)
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To: NYer
Hedy Weinburg, ACLU executive director in Tennessee...

Surely she was raised as, and identifies as Presbyterian.

21 posted on 12/09/2010 4:26:18 PM PST by triumphant values (Never criticize that to your right.)
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To: Pinkbell

I received an email around Thanksgiving urging people to do just that, send the ALCU’s national headquarters a religious Christmas card.


22 posted on 12/09/2010 4:27:02 PM PST by FrdmLvr (Death to tyrants)
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To: NYer

Executive Director: Ramona Ripston. 1313 W. 8th Street Los Angeles CA 90017


23 posted on 12/09/2010 4:28:11 PM PST by Walkingfeather
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To: NYer
ACLU WARNS SCHOOLS TO SAY "HOLIDAY" VS. "CHRISTMAS"

That would be in the name of freedom of speech, right?

24 posted on 12/09/2010 4:30:42 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: NYer
Would that be “holiday” as comes from “holyday”?
25 posted on 12/09/2010 4:31:54 PM PST by pepperdog (Why are Democrats Afraid of a Voter ID Law?)
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To: NYer

Chanuka is over so there is only one other holiday left this month.


26 posted on 12/09/2010 4:33:23 PM PST by ari-freedom
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To: NYer

Another target for Federal budget elimination.


27 posted on 12/09/2010 4:35:02 PM PST by YHAOS (you betcha!)
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To: NYer
Typical drivel from the Anti-Christ Lawyer's Union.
28 posted on 12/09/2010 4:36:29 PM PST by Pablo64 (Political Correctness is a DISEASE. <==> TRUTH is the CURE.)
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To: NYer

I work for an employer that is happy for me to say “Merry Christmas” to our customers and prospects. The people to whom I saw Merry Christmas are really nicely surprised by my greeting and return it with enthusiasm and a smile.


29 posted on 12/09/2010 4:38:07 PM PST by righttackle44 (I may not be much, but I raised a United States Marine.)
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To: NYer

Unless and until they change the name of the LEGAL HOLIDAY they shouldn’t have a legal leg to stand on, should they?


30 posted on 12/09/2010 4:38:56 PM PST by paulycy (Demand Constitutionality. Save America From Bankruptcy.)
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To: NYer

AHA! So not only the NEA but the ACLU is running government schools! Unless public schools are managed by the local boards, there is no hope for the future. On the other hand, Oregon has just made it possible for “religious” clothing to be worn by pupils. This must be good news for the burka crowd.


31 posted on 12/09/2010 4:41:09 PM PST by Paperdoll ( On the cutting edge)
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To: NYer

ACLU on Ramadan and EID? If that was celebrated I bet you wouldn’t hear a peep out of them. How about Kwanzaa?


32 posted on 12/09/2010 4:41:10 PM PST by ReverendJames (Only a lawyer and a painter can change black to white)
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To: triumphant values; NYer
Hedy Weinburg, ACLU executive director in Tennessee...

"Surely she was raised as, and identifies as Presbyterian."

I am Jewish, and every single time I see some JINO speak for the ACLU it makes me cringe.

I have been the recipient of many a "Merry Christmas!" over the years and continuing to literally today, and it never bothered me. To me, it is just someone trying to be friendly and say some kind words to me, and my response is usually something along the lines of, "And the same to you and your family."

We have a diverse culture, but Christians have always been and continue to be the vast majority. I have absolutely zero problem with that, only those very few individuals (Christian or otherwise) who insult me because of my heritage - and I'm not so stupid and/or thin-skinned to attribute their actions and words to others of a similar religious or ethnic background - they are responsible for themselves.

Ironic that the ACLU is warning people NOT to exercise their right to free speech. The world is truly going nuts.

33 posted on 12/09/2010 4:41:52 PM PST by Ancesthntr (Tyrant: "Spartans, lay down your weapons." Free man: "Persian, come and get them!")
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To: Faith

ACLU seems to get in a lather over Christmas every December.

It’s the Anti-Christian Lawyer’s Union.

Just what is it about Christmas that seems to bother them?


34 posted on 12/09/2010 4:44:19 PM PST by ladyjane
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To: NYer

MERRY CHRISTMAS ACLU! The more you tell us we can’t, the MORE I SAY IT EVERTWHERE I GO!!! Maybe you can silence some, but you’ll NEVER silence me.


35 posted on 12/09/2010 4:45:25 PM PST by stilloftyhenight (Don't make me use uppercase.)
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To: NYer

ACLU
A.nti
C.hristian
L.eftist
U.nited


36 posted on 12/09/2010 4:46:10 PM PST by BigCinBigD (Northern flags in South winds flutter...)
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To: NYer
Uhh.. I think the atheist Democrat scumbags at ACLU forgot that "holiday" = "holy day".


37 posted on 12/09/2010 4:49:24 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: FrdmLvr

Roses are reddish
Violets are blueish
If it weren’t for Christmas
We’d all be Jewish


38 posted on 12/09/2010 4:50:58 PM PST by ladyjane
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To: NYer

What was that quote from HR clinton?


39 posted on 12/09/2010 4:51:48 PM PST by Post5203 (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing...Edmund Burke)
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To: Pinkbell

That has been done several times..The ACLU says all they do is laugh and throw them in the trash..I read that last year and the year before.

The bastards do run this nation and it is time we kick their rears out of the country.


40 posted on 12/09/2010 4:58:54 PM PST by PLD
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To: NYer

This is unconstitional and a violation of the First Amendment. It’s time for the DOJ to “man up” and go after the commie atheists in the aCLU and throw them in jail where they belong. They are denying Americans their rights of Freedom of Speech and the Freedom of Religion.


41 posted on 12/09/2010 4:59:46 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Merry Christmas to all of my FReeper FRiends!)
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To: JPG
All Christians Lets Unite.

ACLU = Anti-Christian Litigation Unit.

42 posted on 12/09/2010 4:59:57 PM PST by He Rides A White Horse (unite)
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"If the world hates you, remember it hated me first"

~Jesus Christ
(John 15:18)
43 posted on 12/09/2010 5:01:31 PM PST by Shelayne (He who testifies to these things says, "Yes, I am coming quickly" Amen. Come, Lord Jesus! *Rev 22:20)
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To: Faith
What was once an honorable organization dedicated to the rights guaranteed to us by the Constitution has become a group of people attacking one faith, Christianity. They go after Christmas trees, Manger scenes, Christmas cards, and now even Merry Christmas greetings. They are no longer the noble organization they once were. When was the last time you saw the ACLU go after Mohammed, Islam, Hinduism, Judaism, or any other religion except anything Christian? If they were the least bit even-handed, you could understand. They're not! Why can't you say the word 'Christmas'? This is nonsense. Listen to these clowns if you want. I am done!
44 posted on 12/09/2010 5:02:35 PM PST by maxwellsmart_agent
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To: Faith
What was once an honorable organization dedicated to the rights guaranteed to us by the Constitution has become a group of people attacking one faith, Christianity. They go after Christmas trees, Manger scenes, Christmas cards, and now even Merry Christmas greetings. They are no longer the noble organization they once were. When was the last time you saw the ACLU go after Mohammed, Islam, Hinduism, Judaism, or any other religion except anything Christian? If they were the least bit even-handed, you could understand. They're not! Why can't you say the word 'Christmas'? This is nonsense. Listen to these clowns if you want. I am done!
45 posted on 12/09/2010 5:02:35 PM PST by maxwellsmart_agent
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To: NYer

superintendents across the state were reminded by the ACLU this week that holiday celebrations focusing primarily on one religious holiday amount to an unconstitutional endorsement of religion.

NO it does NOT. If the schools can force the teaching of islam to our children then the word Christmas can be said. The ACLU is an enemy of America AND OUR cONSTITUTION AND WAY OF LIFE..


46 posted on 12/09/2010 5:05:59 PM PST by SECURE AMERICA
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To: NYer

The next “reminder” coming from the ACLU will warn us that wishing someone a “Happy Birthday” constitutes an unconstitutional endorsement of a fetus’ right to life. At that point, nobody will be able to stick one’s head out the door without offending some woman who has already exercised her “right to choose”.


47 posted on 12/09/2010 5:07:02 PM PST by haroldeveryman
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To: Ancesthntr
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

I really do not see where the ACLU has a case.

48 posted on 12/09/2010 5:08:46 PM PST by He Rides A White Horse (unite)
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To: Ancesthntr

I’m cringing too as a Jew to see these no good commie Jews at ACLU and other orgs making war on Christmas. This is so rotten. There are plenty of non-Jews making war on Christmas too. Me, I like Christmas and Christmas time.

Atheism is (usually) a mental disorder


49 posted on 12/09/2010 5:08:56 PM PST by dennisw (- - - -He who does not economize will have to agonize - - - - - Confucius)
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To: NYer
that it was responding to a number of complaints from families about school party activites this Christmas season

Where to start?

Who put the ACLU in charge?

Who really cares if someone complains? Aren't complaints made about all sorts of things every day? Why is there a threat implied simply because a complaint was lodged?

If the activities are taking place because of the CHRISTMAS season, why use the patently fraudulent 'Holiday' label when everyone - both pro and con - know differently?

These are not educational activities. If a parent doesn't wish to allow their child's participation they need only keep the child home where they can revel in their atheism. It's win-win.

50 posted on 12/09/2010 5:12:19 PM PST by relictele
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