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What to do when the shells hit Seoul
JoonAng Daily ^ | December 10, 2010 | Cho Kang-su, Choi Joon-ho

Posted on 12/09/2010 5:02:24 PM PST by Pan_Yan

Like most Seoulites, Hong Jin-ah, a 27-year-old graduate student, had never given a second thought to a North Korean invasion. Despite the rogue country’s close proximity to Seoul, most people here have grown deaf to the threat it poses.

But after Pyongyang leveled Yeonpyeong Island on Nov. 23 with dozens of artillery blasts, many here are now making contingency plans.

Hong was stumped when she considered where she would go if a war broke out. She turned to her smartphone for an answer. Her search for bomb shelters in Hapjeong-dong, western Seoul, turned up nothing. Next she checked a blog called “Find a Bomb Shelter in Your Town,” which also yielded little help.

Hong then took her search to the Dasan 120 Seoul Call Center, a citywide information hotline. “I live in Hapjeong-dong. Where should I evacuate to if there is a war?” Hong asked the receptionist. The answer she received was what most people already know: Head to the nearest subway station or basement.

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There are 25,000 emergency evacuation facilities in South Korea and 3,919 in Seoul. There are no public air-raid shelters in the capital.

“Unlike on Yeonpyeong Island, there is no need to build extra air-raid shelters in Seoul, since subway stations and basements under large buildings can act as evacuation shelters,” said Kim Hye-kyung, the Seoul civil defense attache. “In the case of air raids by North Koreans, those shelters [in Seoul] are good for two to 10 hours.”

According to the National Emergency Management Agency, there is enough space in Seoul’s underground facilities (subway stations, basements, etc.) for 2.7 times the city’s population. The agency came to the conclusion by calculating that each person would need 0.825 square meters (8.9 square feet).

“To prepare for war, the Park Chung Hee regime encouraged construction companies to build basements when putting up new buildings,” said Yoon Myung-o, professor in the University of Seoul’s Department of Architectural Engineering. “Since then, most buildings were made with basements. Now, Seoul has more underground space than any other city [in Korea].”

Seoul’s 4,000 shelters are scored on a 1-4 grading system (with 1 being the most protective shelters), which is determined by landlords and local government offices. In Seoul, there are 1,481 “grade 2” evacuation shelters - which are largely tunnels, subway stations and basements of buildings. There are 2,246 “grade 3” shelters, which are basements of commercial buildings and underground roads. There are 192 “grade 4” shelters under smaller buildings. There are no public “grade 1” shelters that can withstand a chemical, biological or nuclear attack in the capital.

According to guidelines from the National Emergency Management Agency, shelters considered “grade 1” must be equipped with enough food and water for at least two weeks, generators, and communications equipment.

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A go-bag is an easy-to-carry kit that’s been prepared in advance consisting of essential living items. It is common to have a go-bag for those who live in areas prone to natural disasters such as tsunamis.

It is also not a bad idea to pack a go-bag if your neighboring country is run by a tyrannical dictator who routinely threatens to turn the streets of your capital into “rivers of blood.”

So, what to pack?

Start with the essentials: Food, shelter, communication.

Pack a mylar blanket. It’s light-weight, inexpensive and can fold to fit into your pocket. Also consider a radio, whistle, pocket knife, U.S. dollars, maps, a compass, water, food, personal hygiene products, prescription medication, extra keys to your vehicle or apartment, and your ID and passport.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: korea; nkorea; seoul
I selectively excerpted it since the article is very long. I think the South Koreans have lived with this threat for so long that they ren't as prepared as they probably should be, but it's distubing to think how much more prepared they are than the average American city, even after 9-11.
1 posted on 12/09/2010 5:02:29 PM PST by Pan_Yan
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To: Pan_Yan

This thread is useless without pics...

If she can cook bulgogi and KalBi ribs she’s welcome at my house for the duration of the conflict.

If she’s cute then X2...


2 posted on 12/09/2010 5:06:31 PM PST by Tailback
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To: Pan_Yan

If you compared Washington, DC to Seoul with its government buildings, the North Korean border would be at Dulles airport.


3 posted on 12/09/2010 5:07:38 PM PST by U S Army EOD
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To: Pan_Yan

I’ve been in some of the underground shelters. Immense underground shopping malls during normal times.

NK is almost certainly going to use chem and bio weapons. Plus the burning buildings will cause significant problems.


4 posted on 12/09/2010 5:10:17 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Tailback

I’ve met her. She is about 5’4”, is slim, has brown slanted eyes, sort of small brested, nice hips and legs, has black hair on top of her head (that is about all the hair) and her breath sort of smells like Kimchi.


5 posted on 12/09/2010 5:10:37 PM PST by U S Army EOD
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To: Pan_Yan

Surely this is a fluff piece, right? Nobody in SK can be that oblivious to a NK attack? Sure, there’s moonbats everywhere, but there? Twenty-seven and doesn’t know to head for the nearest subway? No, honey, just stand out in the middle of the street and stare straight up.


6 posted on 12/09/2010 5:11:27 PM PST by bgill (K Parliament- how could a young man born in Kenya who is not even a native American become the POTUS)
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To: Tailback

If it is this young lady, she is a screen writer. I can’t read Korean so who knows?

http://image.search.naver.com/search.naver?where=image&query=%C8%AB%C1%F8%BE%C6+%C0%DB%B0%A1&merge=0&res_fr=0&res_to=0&sort=0&sm=tab_opt&viewtype=0&site=&face=1&color=0&mcs=0&a_q=&n_q=&o_q=&sm=tab_txc


7 posted on 12/09/2010 5:14:20 PM PST by dynachrome ("Our forefathers didn't bury their guns. They buried those that tried to take them.")
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To: U S Army EOD
I’ve met her. She is about 5’4”, is slim, has brown slanted eyes, sort of small brested, nice hips and legs, has black hair on top of her head (that is about all the hair) and her breath sort of smells like Kimchi

Wow, sounds exactly like the chick that worked at the PX at Ft. Lewis! Heck yea, I'll shack her up at my place for a few months, she's gotta do the cooking though.
8 posted on 12/09/2010 5:15:18 PM PST by Tailback
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To: U S Army EOD

You had me interested ‘til you got to the kimchi breath (such a turn-off).


9 posted on 12/09/2010 5:21:27 PM PST by Repeal The 17th
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To: U S Army EOD

I know that girl!


10 posted on 12/09/2010 5:23:46 PM PST by Lazamataz (Lowering Kristinn's IQ since May 21, 1999)
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To: Pan_Yan
but it's distubing to think how much more prepared they are than the average American city, even after 9-11.

Excellent point. Americans forget far too easily.

It reminds me of the war weary European countries after WWI, not having the stomach to stop facism after the years of brutal trench warfare.

11 posted on 12/09/2010 5:36:54 PM PST by He Rides A White Horse (unite)
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To: U S Army EOD

She sounds like one of the Ko sisters,
Suziko,Tomiko,Hatchiko...


12 posted on 12/09/2010 5:45:34 PM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: U S Army EOD
Can be taller. Get over the Kimchi strong garlic and you are good to go. No one get mad Korean women are something else. Let's not get into Texas, Italian and Scandidavia.
13 posted on 12/09/2010 5:51:39 PM PST by nomorelurker
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To: bgill
“No, honey, just stand out in the middle of the street and stare straight up.”

You might be surprised just how stupid some people are.

During hurricane Ike, my neighbor at the time, almost had a 40’ diameter oak tree fall on him because he was standing out in his yard under the trees.

14 posted on 12/09/2010 5:58:07 PM PST by IMR 4350
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To: Repeal The 17th
You had me interested ‘til you got to the kimchi breath (such a turn-off).

It's kind of like smoking, it you both do it you don't care.
(and I like kimchi)

15 posted on 12/09/2010 5:58:41 PM PST by CrazyIvan (What's "My Struggle" in Kenyan?)
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To: IMR 4350
During hurricane Ike, my neighbor at the time, almost had a 40’ diameter oak tree fall on him because he was standing out in his yard under the trees.

Yah. A 40 foot diameter oak is nothing to mess with!

16 posted on 12/09/2010 6:17:29 PM PST by sionnsar (IranAzadi|5yst3m 0wn3d-it's N0t Y0ur5:SONY|Why are TSA exempt from their own searches?)
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To: sionnsar; IMR 4350
Yah. A 40 foot diameter oak is nothing to mess with!

Great Googly Moogly!

17 posted on 12/09/2010 6:20:05 PM PST by Hoodat (Don't touch my junk, Bro !)
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To: U S Army EOD
She is about 5’4”, is slim, has brown slanted eyes, sort of small brested, nice hips and legs, has black hair on top of her head (that is about all the hair) and her breath sort of smells like Kimchi.

That's 98% of the women in South Korean. The other 2% are 5'5".

18 posted on 12/09/2010 6:21:42 PM PST by Traveler59 (Truth is a journey, not a destination.)
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To: bgill
Nobody in SK can be that oblivious to a NK attack?

Complacency is international. Their neighbor has been threatening for 50 years to turn Seoul into a 'sea of fire'. At some point I think most people have tuned it out.

19 posted on 12/09/2010 6:22:51 PM PST by Pan_Yan
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To: U S Army EOD

If it’s not shrimp kimchi I’m in.


20 posted on 12/09/2010 6:37:10 PM PST by Neidermeyer
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To: sionnsar; Hoodat

40 foot?

When I screw up I don’t do it half ass do I?

40 inch oak


21 posted on 12/09/2010 6:37:32 PM PST by IMR 4350
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To: Tailback

22 posted on 12/09/2010 6:50:17 PM PST by sushiman
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To: bgill

As mentioned: the threat has been so loud and in-your-face for so long many don’t perceive it.
I used to date a South Korean for a while. Whenever I asked about the latest scary NK threat, she’d just roll her eyes and ask why I bothered paying any attention to their nonsense.


23 posted on 12/09/2010 6:57:51 PM PST by ctdonath2 (+)
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To: driftdiver

The thing is, crack NK commandoes will lob Sarin and VX gas mercilessly into the Seoul subway stations, once they are full. They know every station, and have trained for it...I am certain they are already on SK soil, assleepers, as we speak.


24 posted on 12/09/2010 7:56:14 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo (**George W Bush** bears as much responsibility as CARTER, CLINTON and OBAMA over N. Korean nukes)
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To: Repeal The 17th
You had me interested ‘til you got to the kimchi breath (such a turn-off).

It certainly is. When I was in Korea (1961-62) and living in the standard building there, a quonset hut, one of the guys could come back from eating kimchi, and--this is a bit of an exaggeration, but not much--you could be at the other end of the quonset hut and smell the kimchi.

For those unfamiliar with it, kimchi (at least the stuff that I came across) was made basically of cabbage, with a few other vegetables, such as red peppers, mixed in). It was usually placed underground until it fermented to a certain "flavor." The smell of it on someone's breath was breathtaking.

25 posted on 12/09/2010 8:21:32 PM PST by OldPossum
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To: OldPossum

Oh, I forgot to note that onions were also a primary ingredient.

I had an extremely cute Korean girlfriend when I was there and she was always careful to not eat kimchi on those days when she went out with me.


26 posted on 12/09/2010 8:30:38 PM PST by OldPossum
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To: OldPossum
"I had an extremely cute Korean girlfriend when I was there and she was always careful to not eat kimchi on those days when she went out with me.

When I was there, I just ate kimchi myself and there was no problem with the Korean girl's breath.
27 posted on 12/09/2010 9:11:39 PM PST by Right_Wing_Madman
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To: Lazamataz
Of course you do, Laz ......................... FRegards
28 posted on 12/10/2010 12:10:29 AM PST by gonzo ( Buy more ammo, dammit! You should already have the firearms .................. FRegards)
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To: sushiman

Nobody at our local Korean restaurant looks that good. :-(


29 posted on 12/10/2010 10:48:43 AM PST by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves)
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To: Pan_Yan; All

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30 posted on 12/10/2010 11:19:44 AM PST by GOYAKLA (Flush Congress in 2010 & 2012)
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