Skip to comments.The War on Cameras It has never been easier—or more dangerous—to record the police.
Posted on 12/10/2010 6:45:40 AM PST by marktwain
Michael Allison, a 41-year-old backyard mechanic from southeastern Illinois, faces up to 75 years in prison for an act most people dont realize is a crime: recording public officials.
Allison lives in Bridgeport, Illinois, and often spends time at his mothers house in Robinson, one county to the north. Both towns have abandoned property (or eyesore) ordinances prohibiting the parking of inoperable or unregistered vehicles on private property except in enclosed garages. These rules place a substantial burden on hobbyists like Allison; to obey the law he must either build a garagewhich he says isnt an option, given his property and his incomeor register, plate, and pay insurance on every car he fixes up, even though he never drives them on public roads. So Allison kept working on his cars, and the city of Bridgeport kept impounding them: in 2001, 2003, and 2005.
In 2007 Allison filed a lawsuit against the city, alleging the law was a violation of his civil rights and a scheme to collect revenue through impound fees. He then resumed tinkering with unregistered vehicles in his mothers driveway in Robinson. By Allisons account, police officers in Robinson began harassing him with threats of fines or arrest for violating that towns ordinance, though Allison alleges the harassment was personalretaliation for his lawsuit back in Bridgeport. Thats when he began recording his conversations with cops.
In late 2008, Allison went to the Robinson police station, tape recorder in hand, and asked the chief to tell his officers either to name the law he was violating and issue him a citation or leave him alone. Not long after, two Robinson police officers showed up at his mothers property and, while he was working on his mothers car in her driveway, wrote Allison a citation for violating the eyesore ordinance.
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With these kind of rules, the guy who recorded those cops beating the snot out of Rodney King would have been thrown in jail.
Private citizens should have the right to record everything anybody ever says to them.
And public officials should have the fear that everything they say to anyone is being recorded.
Seems the most bedwetting liberal states are the ones that have laws that do not allow citizens to record.
People need to rise up and get their rights back to record public officials.
Just one more example of how totally our lives are being taken over by The Man. Every aspect of our day to day activities are subject to a myriad of often conflicting, frequently hardly known, rules and regulations.
Our system for oversight of the powers-that-be is in desperate need of overhaul. The average Joe Citizen does not stand a snowball's chance in hell of successfully challenging a law or rule or regulation that we feel is not constitutional or oversteps the bounds of the agency. Government, at every level, has become way too powerful, willing and able to devote huge amounts of resources to coming down on a common citizen who feels they've been mistreated. Their first response is to make it so onerous to question their authority that you will not even consider it. I would certainly be willing to contribute to a fund set up for the purpose of helping this man get his day in court.
This is one of those rare occasions where I agree with the ACLU.
People need to be able to protect themselves, at least with electronic recording devices.
This would put everybody on notice that what you do may be recorded, so be nice.
For the police, it means do only what you must.
This is who the ACLU is:
"I am for socialism, disarmament, and ultimately, for abolishing the state itself... I seek social ownership of property, the abolition of the properties class, and sole control of those who produce wealth. Communism is the goal. I don't regret being part of the communist tactic. I knew what I was doing. I was not an innocent liberal. I wanted what the communists wanted, and I traveled the United Front road to get it.
Roger Baldwin (a co-founder of the ACLU)
Public officials should be REQUIRED to have a recording made and archived of everything they do every minute of every day they are “on the clock” or enjoying some special privilege that peons don’t enjoy (like carrying a gun where we can’t).
This especially includes cops and school teachers.
This article is annoyingly overlong, but very informative. I generally always back the blue, but I think the civil servants, be they local, state or fed, are starting to get a siege mentality, because they know the economy is bad and that usually brings more budget scrutiny.
Too bad. If your an unelected civil servant nursing at the taxpayer teat, then you better be D#$N glad you got a job
period and walk the VERY straight and narrow.
Same here. When even small town police are outfitted not unlike a Seal Assualt Team I have become alarmed.
I think you’re right. If it can be seen or heard using the normal senses, then it should be recordable. If it happens in a public area, then it should be recordable. If it’s something a public official is doing in the line of their duties, then it should be recordable.
In the Land of the Free, how can a person not have the right to record what they experience using their normal senses? Do sounds belong to the speaker even after they impact someone’s hearing? Do people own the photons that reflect their appearance?
“I grew up in rural America in the early 1950s and at that time the police were your friend”
Yes, I agree. If you ask them today, why they became an officer, you always get the - “well... I wanted to help people” song and dance. In reality, it’s really just a paycheck for most of them and a pathway to a pension. In
some places a GREAT pension. That pension is what they REALLY care about. If you are an elected official, you touch that police and fire pension with extreme caution.
And the SAD part is if you find a bad cop and fire him, they will usually just pop up somewhere else soon. The
bad cops can wander like vagrants from one force to another for a LOOONG time.
For exactly the reason you state, I cannot believe this is a law. It seems it may only be legal to record a policeman beating a minority (Rodney King) due to political correctness.
Besides, if we witness a crime we must draw upon our imperfect memory to testify to what we saw. Which can lead to a miscarriage of justice. Recording a crime, particularly that of a public figure, would reduce the likely hood of such injustice.
Great article - a keeper.
There is no legitimate reason to prohibit recording public exchanges involving ANY public official, and the only rational I see exhibited against it is when public officials try to weasel their way out of misdoings.
Therefore, expect to see more stringent rules applied against our fellow subjects in the future.
After all, we gotta keep the sheeple in line, right?
“Illinois wiretapping law, which makes it a Class 1 felony to record someone without his consent.”
A judge in a courtroom has no expectation of a “right to privacy”!
The travesty here is the double standard. Cops on duty can and do record you at any time within the public realm, including traffic stops. Not to mention cities that have cameras on the public streets. They do that because in their legal determination it’s a public place. The courts have supported that.
Except for officials and police officers. What’s public for you at the same time, same place, is private for them. It violates multiples areas of the Constitution. Hopefully the courts will continue to smack their bags on this one.
A whole lot of judges are gonna need impeachin’ before we restore this country to anything close to constitutional governance! That’s a fact!
Rather like a PC version of the old “An Armed Society is a Polite Society” model...
It’s well past time for the elitists to understand that they work for us...all of ‘em.
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