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Kayaker killed by crocodile
The Washington Times ^ | 12/10/2010 | Jenny gross

Posted on 12/10/2010 9:44:12 AM PST by drew

Kayaker presumed dead after Congo crocodile attack By Jenny Gross - JOHANNESBURG | An acclaimed South African outdoorsman who was leading a kayaking expedition from the source of the White Nile into Congo was dragged from his craft by a crocodile as two Americans watched, horrified. The guide is presumed dead. The two Americans paddled to safety after the Tuesday morning attack on the Lukuga River in Congo. The International Rescue Committee helped evacuate the Americans to a nearby town after Tuesday's attack, said Ciaran Donnelly, the organization's regional director in the Central African country. The body of 35-year-old Hendrik Coetzee, who was living in Uganda, has not been recovered.

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TOPICS: Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: africa; animalattack; crocodile; dontgothere; frankbuck; southafrica; tourism; uganda

1 posted on 12/10/2010 9:44:14 AM PST by drew
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To: drew

That bites.


2 posted on 12/10/2010 9:45:46 AM PST by DannyTN
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To: drew

Wild animals hunt, kill and eat things. Talk about putting yourself in harm’s way - for no real reason except excitement and money.

Colonel, USAFR


3 posted on 12/10/2010 9:46:05 AM PST by jagusafr ("We hold these truths to be self-evident...")
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To: drew

Yeah - don’t go anywhere near crocs unless you are a big Hippo with an attitide. One reason why I like Hippos. They just want to be left alone but if people mess with them or their children then look out.


4 posted on 12/10/2010 9:47:17 AM PST by Frantzie
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To: drew

5 posted on 12/10/2010 9:48:18 AM PST by paul in cape
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To: drew

To be the main course for dinner, what a crock!


6 posted on 12/10/2010 9:49:35 AM PST by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: drew

“two Americans paddled to safety”

Read: Two screaming maniacs set a world speed record kayaking in the Congo.....


7 posted on 12/10/2010 9:50:29 AM PST by onona (dbada)
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To: drew

They were probably trying to get even after watching episodes of Swamp People.


8 posted on 12/10/2010 9:51:08 AM PST by UB355 (Slower traffic keep right)
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To: drew

He should have had a bigger boat.


9 posted on 12/10/2010 9:51:08 AM PST by Rebelbase
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To: onona

Yep. That’s a visual right there. :)


10 posted on 12/10/2010 9:56:47 AM PST by RedMDer
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To: onona

Yeah, I bet their heart rates were off the charts.


11 posted on 12/10/2010 9:57:57 AM PST by TheThinker (Communists: taking over the world one kooky doomsday scenario at a time.)
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To: drew

Kayaking in crocodile infested waters... I think that qualifies for the Darwin Award.


12 posted on 12/10/2010 9:58:39 AM PST by LibWhacker
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To: drew

People don’t realize that, in some parts of the world, when you leave the safety of your home or auto you then become a part of the food chain, and not the top!


13 posted on 12/10/2010 9:59:00 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (I visited GEN TOMMY FRANKS Military Museum in HOBART, OKLAHOMA! Well worth it!)
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To: drew

"Funny, there weren't any crocodiles in the brochure."


14 posted on 12/10/2010 9:59:08 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (Socialists are to economics what circle squarers are to math; undaunted by reason or derision.)
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To: drew

I spent about a month in Northern Australia bush and almost a year in Zim and RSA. The outcome was just about 100% predictable. If the crocs had not gotten him first the hippos would have at some point. Or the locals would have eaten them. Plus, they will have their guts rot out from all the parasites. Too bad for the family.


15 posted on 12/10/2010 9:59:55 AM PST by TxDas (This above all, to thine ownself be true.)
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To: drew

Darwin Award for people seeking thrills.


16 posted on 12/10/2010 10:03:08 AM PST by Carley (ISRAEL.......NOT SO ALONE!!!)
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To: TxDas

“Africa wins again!”


17 posted on 12/10/2010 10:03:41 AM PST by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is essential to examine principles,)
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To: drew

So, where’s Tarzan when you need him?


18 posted on 12/10/2010 10:09:22 AM PST by Rum Tum Tugger
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To: drew


An acclaimed South African outdoorsman who was leading a kayaking expedition
from the source of the White Nile into Congo was dragged from his craft
by a crocodile as two Americans watched, horrified. The guide is presumed dead.

And nobody in the expedition had a .454 or .500 revolver on hand for such
an encounter?
Anyone that enters a place with crocodiles, alligators, grizzlies,
brown bears, etc. without serious firepower-—
they assume the risk.

Teddy Roosevelt, would have killed the crocodile
and given the “bittee” a chance of survival.
By “busting a cap in the @$$” of the crok!!!

I guess these folks have never watched “I Shouldn’t Be Alive”
on Discovery or Animal Channel.


19 posted on 12/10/2010 10:09:51 AM PST by VOA
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To: drew

Do they also offer bicycle tours in lion country?


20 posted on 12/10/2010 10:10:57 AM PST by 3niner (When Obama succeeds, America fails.)
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To: drew

Never bring a kayak to a crocodile fight.....


21 posted on 12/10/2010 10:11:44 AM PST by GQuagmire (Hey now!)
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To: drew

Some people just no longer have the survival gene, IMO.

They insist on finding more & more stupid ‘vacations’ to entertain themselves.

Sorta like Crack Cocaine: Whatever Fred & Martha did last year has to be topped by something wilder & stupider this year.

Their life insurance should be cancelled.


22 posted on 12/10/2010 10:18:25 AM PST by ridesthemiles
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To: onona

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23 posted on 12/10/2010 10:24:51 AM PST by seton89 (No taxpayers were harmed in the making of Fords)
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To: drew
Kayaker presumed dead after Congo crocodile attack By Jenny Gross

Appropriate byline for such a story.

Awful way to die, though, RIP...

24 posted on 12/10/2010 10:25:24 AM PST by Zeppo ("Happy Pony is on - and I'm NOT missing Happy Pony")
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To: drew
"The body of 35-year-old Hendrik Coetzee, who was living in Uganda, has not been recovered."

Sounds like a load of crap to me!

25 posted on 12/10/2010 10:27:18 AM PST by Mich Patriot (Today we did what we had to do. They counted on America to be passive. They counted wrong. RReagan)
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To: drew

Obama’s due for another vacation soon.


26 posted on 12/10/2010 10:29:14 AM PST by Mich Patriot (Today we did what we had to do. They counted on America to be passive. They counted wrong. RReagan)
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To: Frantzie
Yeah - don’t go anywhere near crocs unless you are a big Hippo with an attitide. One reason why I like Hippos. They just want to be left alone but if people mess with them or their children then look out.

Texans share those attributes.

"Don't Mess With Texas!"

27 posted on 12/10/2010 10:36:44 AM PST by Night Hides Not (If Dick Cheney = Darth Vader, then Joe Biden = Dark Helmet)
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To: drew

28 posted on 12/10/2010 10:39:08 AM PST by Iron Munro (This is our culture; fight for it. This is our flag; pick it up. This is our country; take it back.)
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To: drew

Is it up on Youtube yet?


29 posted on 12/10/2010 10:42:41 AM PST by bray (Sarah Palin will destroy the Repub Party, hopfully!)
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To: Night Hides Not

Well Texans need to get rid of stinking open border RINOs like Kay Bailey, Cornyn and Rick Perry. Florida’s GOP has the same problem.


30 posted on 12/10/2010 10:45:46 AM PST by Frantzie
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To: ridesthemiles; The Comedian

As you are being drowned and chewed up by the croc which do you think would be foremost in your mind? Or are you wishing for the inevitable to hurry up?


31 posted on 12/10/2010 10:46:41 AM PST by B4Ranch (Do NOT remain seated until this ride comes to a full and complete stop! We're going the wrong way!)
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To: drew; B4Ranch; ridesthemiles
Nature red in tooth and claw.

Earth *will* eat you if you aren't the smartest, strongest thing in the vicinity.

It's why there are no unicorns or functional socialists anywhere on Earth.

And note to everyone: We really need to stop saving the socialists from the multi-faceted crocodiles that constantly offer to take them off our hands at no cost.


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

32 posted on 12/10/2010 11:04:55 AM PST by The Comedian (Government: Saving people from freedom since time immemorial.)
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To: The Comedian

I don’t think so ,but, I am in the minority.


33 posted on 12/10/2010 11:07:27 AM PST by sport
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To: 3niner

It’s all Lion country!


34 posted on 12/10/2010 11:24:49 AM PST by Calamari (Pass enough laws and everyone is guilty of something.)
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To: The Comedian

Socialists should be encouraged to consume suicide inducing drugs at every opportunity.


35 posted on 12/10/2010 11:25:13 AM PST by B4Ranch (Do NOT remain seated until this ride comes to a full and complete stop! We're going the wrong way!)
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To: TxDas

I used to have to do deployment reports on local parasitic diseases for obscure places. Hours in a medical library looking at gross pictures. Quite a few easily gotten parasitic infections are untreatable, or the treatment has significant mortality rates itself.

Fugehdaboutit.


36 posted on 12/10/2010 11:29:11 AM PST by Leisler (They always lie, and have for so much and for so long, that they no longer know what about.)
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To: B4Ranch
Socialists should be encouraged to consume suicide inducing drugs at every opportunity.

Or be consumed by liberalcide-inducing crocs, either way.


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

37 posted on 12/10/2010 11:29:55 AM PST by The Comedian (Government: Saving people from freedom since time immemorial.)
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To: ridesthemiles

Hey, some of us take risks...calculated risks because life is just not meant to be all about safety. Take going to Ranger School for instance. It is dangerous but I’m glad some choose to go (not me). Others do the tough stuff to prepare themselves, see what there is to see, or learn something.

The catch-22 is that Life if too valuable and fragile to take risks but Life is too short not to...

If I get killed by a rattlesnake on one of my deep woods hikes, or killed on my motorcycle negotiating traffic, or freeze to death on one of my mountain trips, well I’m afraid you Dawinists will be sad to learn that my genes have already been passed on and I have five children that are just as stubborn as me.


38 posted on 12/10/2010 11:32:35 AM PST by Monterrosa-24 (...even more American than a French bikini and a Russian AK-47.)
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To: onona
Two screaming maniacs set a world speed record kayaking in the Congo.....

I think I probably could get one of those things up on a plane if I really needed to... :-)

39 posted on 12/10/2010 11:39:46 AM PST by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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To: drew

40 posted on 12/10/2010 11:47:20 AM PST by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: drew

Crocidiles 1

Idiots 0


41 posted on 12/10/2010 1:44:46 PM PST by sport
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To: Leisler
Quite a few easily gotten parasitic infections are untreatable,

I met a fellow in 1975 who had picked up some sort of foot infection in Korea during the war that he'd never been able to get rid of.

The best he could do was to keep it at bay by soaking his feet in a tray of Clorox about once a month.

42 posted on 12/11/2010 5:39:54 AM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Monterrosa-24

Dear Monterrosa what you are talking about is calculated risk. Most activities your talking about are low risk. Do you realize how many crocodiles live in African and Australian Rivers? They estimate the population to be between 250,000 and 500,000 crocodiles in those African Rivers. That’s not counting Australia. It is almost suicide to go swimming and extremely dangerous to go Kayaking. This is not calculated risk this is suicide. Rivers are small and oceans are huge. So you can’t compare this crocodile tragedy even to swimming in the ocean. Now take in the fact that humans are nearly defenseless in the water, not our environment, and you can see why death for this poor soul was a forgone conclusion once the Crocodile focused on him as prey. I would sky dive, swim in the ocean, camp in Grizzly Bear country, mountain climb, and rescue people from a burning building all in the same year but I would never swim or boat, in anything smaller than a yacht, in Crocodile country. It’s suicide. One final word. You can’t compare any land based risk to water risk. You would have much better chance in Grizzly Bear country with no weapons than you would in Crocodile infested waters with a machine gun. Good Day, Mike.


43 posted on 12/23/2010 4:46:27 AM PST by scooby67
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To: drew

——The body .... has not been recovered.——

There is no body Jenny. The man was eaten alive.


44 posted on 12/23/2010 4:52:46 AM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. N.C. D.E. +12 .....( History is a process, not an event ))
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To: drew
The guide is presumed dead.

Ya think?

45 posted on 12/23/2010 4:55:35 AM PST by Allegra (I painted red and green stripes on my biceps.)
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To: scooby67

“...I would sky dive, swim in the ocean, camp in Grizzly Bear country, mountain climb, and rescue people from a burning building all in the same year but I would never swim or boat, in anything smaller than a yacht, in Crocodile country...”

Point taken!

But when adventurers overstep the bounds of good sense in their underwater cave diving, croc petting, base jumping, salmon sharing with bears, etc. I believe we should still feel a bit of empathy for them and not just laugh off their passing as some on FR like to do.


46 posted on 12/23/2010 6:08:39 AM PST by Monterrosa-24 (...even more American than a French bikini and a Russian AK-47.)
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To: Monterrosa-24
Also on that same note you can't compare kayaking in a crocodile infested river to going to Ranger School. Although you may think your dying, and maybe you even want to die, your not. The Army gains nothing by your death. Crocodiles, particularly, the large species are very aggresive and humans are regularly on it's food chain in Africa. By contrast there's a good chance a shark won't even attack you if it's right beside you. Similarly to a Grizzly. In most situations if a Grizzly Bear hears you it runs away. Crocodiles don't run from nothing, except maybe hippos. No matter how anyone on here tries to justify this kayaking trip it was an ill advised trip, it was reckless, and this is not healthy risk taking. You can not equate this with the weekend sky diving trip, camping in bear country, swimming in the ocean, or mountain climbing. You certainly can't equate this with Ranger School. In the normal scheme of things sky diving is not all that risky because 99.5 percent of the time the parachute will open, 99.5% of the time camping in bear country or swimming in the ocean will lead to nothing more than perhaps a sun burn and 99.5% of the time you won't die in Ranger Training. I bet you that if you kayak in crocodile country as much as you do any of these other activities your death risk goes up exponentially. You can sky dive, camp, or swim all your life and never encounter a malfunctioning parachute, a shark, or a Bear. Now kayak the Congo at that same rate and I bet you that your in a world of hurt. People seem to be so easy to write this incident off to chance or bad luck. No this was foolish people doing foolish things. I don't know exactly what it would be equivalent to but lets start with drinking and driving. You may do it once and get away with it or you may kill some one the first time but one thing is for sure if you keep doing it some one is going to get hurt. Some how that example seems to not be enough but it's all I can think of. In closing this was not risk taking it was foolish arrogant behavior by folks who's thrill seeking past made them think they were invincible. When you think your invincible it's funny how mother nature reminds us that were not. It's horribly sad for that poor victim's family. It's a shame he did not have more regard for them. Good Day.
47 posted on 12/23/2010 8:50:10 AM PST by scooby67
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To: scooby67

I agree with your points but don’t go too light on Ranger School. Here is what an instructor posted on a Mil site...

“...in the mid-90’s four men in one patrol died on the same night in Florida(Swamp) Phase, student deaths are tragic and are certainly not deliberate and this is not a point of pride among the cadre by any means but training deaths do occur in Ranger School and they occur in Reg also.
The training is not only tough and realistic but it is also hazardous.
In my experience alone as an RI, I know of at least a dozen tragic deaths in Ranger School alone...”

Of course Ranger School’s risk is measured against the necessary risk of the job that Rangers may be asked to do on real life missions. Paddling dangerous rivers is more difficult to justify.


48 posted on 12/23/2010 9:22:04 AM PST by Monterrosa-24 (...even more American than a French bikini and a Russian AK-47.)
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To: Monterrosa-24

To those who responded to my response. I do have empathy for the poor soul who died. I have empathy and sympathy both to be honest. I feel bad for him his family and everyone involved but my frustration is with folks who tried to justify his suicidal behavior by equating it to adventure. No one seems to respect how dangerous crocodiles are. Risk are suppose to be calculated. There is a reason people don’t regularly paddle in kayaks on rivers like the congo. The locals are taken all the time off their wooden fishing boats. Unfortunately the locals have not choice they have to fish and make a living but they do so under great hazard and stress. Africa, Australia and other places may be beuatiful but underneath their deadly. You have to respect those places immensely. You don’t just go up to a body of water in those places and say: “ Wow looks like a nice place to swim or hey lest go kayaking”. Foolish. The poor people on this kayaking trip were not taking rational risk. You can’t compare this even with going to the moon on thousands of pound of rocket fuel. The outcome was very predictable yet these adventurers thought they were invincible and now a man has lost his life. To all of you who try to justify foolish behavior STOP!!!!!!!! It was foolish and reckless to do what these three folks did and it’s a tragedy that need not happen. Good Day!!


49 posted on 12/24/2010 12:48:48 PM PST by scooby67
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