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Gun Toting Santa Draws Fire
NBC Bay Area ^ | 12/9/2010

Posted on 12/10/2010 11:40:11 AM PST by nickcarraway

Some would say this is political correctness run amok

A painted plywood cut-out of Santa with a cowboy hat and a gun on his belt is causing quite a stir in the town of Turlock.

The Santa is one of many displays that line a Christmas tree lot. Workers said they have been using the same cowboy Santa display for 20 years and have never had a compliant until now.

A woman named Monica Sliva didn't like the idea of Santa packing heat so she asked them to take it down. ”I tried to get the image out of my head all day long and I could not, because Santa is made for love, bringing families together, not carrying weapons,” Sliva told KCRA.

Sliva confronted the workers at the tree lot telling them it sends the wrong message to children.

“It portrays to the kids that it’s OK for Santa to be carrying a gun and therefore it’s OK for them to be carrying a gun,” Sliva said.

“I think it’s pretty crazy, to tell you the truth,” Bobby Vierra said. “I mean, we're just trying to sell trees out here.”

When commotion over the display caused traffic to back up, workers covered the gun on Santa's belt. The display was then temporarily taken down.

Vierra said he feels the attention is unfair. "It's just a Santa," he said. "You know, it's just a cowboy."

But just before closing time the display was put back up, his gun still covered. The owner said he has done nothing wrong, so Santa is back. --KCRA.com


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: banglist; christmas; guns; santa
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1 posted on 12/10/2010 11:40:17 AM PST by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

Why doesn’t anyone ever tell people to piss off?

Its what I would do and have done before. Busybodies need to piss the F off.


2 posted on 12/10/2010 11:42:18 AM PST by packrat35 (I got your tag line..)
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To: nickcarraway

Monica Silva needs to get herself a life.

What absolute nonsense.


3 posted on 12/10/2010 11:43:53 AM PST by Mears
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To: nickcarraway
Doesn't anyone realize Santa has always carried concealed?

A gunbelt on Santa is just wrong;goes against the public image of Santa of over a hundred years.

4 posted on 12/10/2010 11:44:00 AM PST by hoosierham (Waddaya mean Freedom isn't free ?;will you take a credit card?)
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To: hoosierham

If your not being sarcastic, then piss off!!!


5 posted on 12/10/2010 11:45:39 AM PST by 9422WMR (Illegal is not a race)
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To: Mears

I think she needs to be handed a copy of the Butthurt Report.

Obviously she was traumatized by something she didn’t have to look at in the first place.


6 posted on 12/10/2010 11:46:59 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a (de)humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: nickcarraway
If she doesn't like it then she can buy her tree someplace else.

If she wants to make a scene then have the cops take her away and put her on a 5150 hold. Give her 72 hours to find a good shrink.

Just my opinion of course.

7 posted on 12/10/2010 11:49:04 AM PST by BenLurkin (This post is not a statement of fact. It is merely a personal opinion -- or humor -- or both)
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To: MrB

She can’t get the image out of her mind. So because she’s apparently obsessive/compulsive......


8 posted on 12/10/2010 11:49:44 AM PST by Shimmer1 (Froggie sez water nice and warm)
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To: nickcarraway
Gun Toting Santa Draws Fire


organisation calling for 'Santa Claus-free zones'

9 posted on 12/10/2010 11:49:50 AM PST by Alex Murphy ("Posting news feeds, making eyes bleed, he's hated on seven continents")
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To: nickcarraway
“It portrays to the kids that it’s OK for Santa to be carrying a gun and therefore it’s OK for them to be carrying a gun,” Sliva said.

It IS okay for Santa to carry a gun. After all, how else is he supposed to fend off characters like Heat Miser, the Snow Miser, the ASbominable Snowman and the Winter Warlock?

10 posted on 12/10/2010 11:49:58 AM PST by WayneS (Enlightened statesmen will not always be at the helm. -- James Madison)
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To: hoosierham

If someone is going to be carrying around a lot of valuables late a night, they probably need a gun.


11 posted on 12/10/2010 11:51:36 AM PST by nickcarraway
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To: Shimmer1

Like all aspects of liberalism,

they make normal people have to suffer because of their mental issues.


12 posted on 12/10/2010 11:51:47 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a (de)humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: nickcarraway

If it’s just a santa and not a cowboy like the guy said, why the cowboy hat and gun?


13 posted on 12/10/2010 11:51:51 AM PST by stuartcr (When politicians politicize issues, aren't they just doing their job?)
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To: nickcarraway
Santa has to pack heat in CA, the urban drug addled bangers try to sleighjack him every Christmas in Oakland and East La.
14 posted on 12/10/2010 11:52:06 AM PST by Navy Patriot (Sarah and the Conservatives will rock your world.)
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To: stuartcr

Alos, the bandanna around his neck.


15 posted on 12/10/2010 11:55:33 AM PST by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

Tell them to piss off!


16 posted on 12/10/2010 11:56:24 AM PST by Red in Blue PA (Planning on using 911? Google "Brittany Zimmerman")
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To: 9422WMR
MAKE me.

Open carry invites criticism ,incites the fearful,and is an invitation to attack.The bad guys are likely to target you to take the weapon;and certainly you will be the first shot if the bad guys see you.

On the other hand,if you don't feel the need to show off,then your gun is there in the concealed holster when you need it to defend yourself or others,yet no one need be alarmed by your presence.

First got CCW permit in 1988.I do believe all have the right to carry but I am not yet willing to spend my time ,money, and freedom fighting the well-established laws by myself.

An obviously armed Santa is not something I ever saw in half a century of books,movies,TV,posters, or department stores.

17 posted on 12/10/2010 11:57:31 AM PST by hoosierham (Waddaya mean Freedom isn't free ?;will you take a credit card?)
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To: Mears

Libs offended yet again....in other news, water is wet.


18 posted on 12/10/2010 12:01:08 PM PST by Red in Blue PA (Planning on using 911? Google "Brittany Zimmerman")
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To: Mears

Sounds like Monica Silva is afraid of long, hard things.

What would Freud say?


19 posted on 12/10/2010 12:04:01 PM PST by Red in Blue PA (Planning on using 911? Google "Brittany Zimmerman")
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To: stuartcr
If it’s just a santa and not a cowboy like the guy said, why the cowboy hat and gun?

"Vierra said he feels the attention is unfair. "It's just a Santa," he said. "You know, it's just a cowboy."

He didn't say it wasn't a cowboy.

20 posted on 12/10/2010 12:06:09 PM PST by loboinok (Gun control is hitting what you aim at!)
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To: nickcarraway

Very traditional. If it was blaze orange, he’d look like a few guys in my hunt club.


21 posted on 12/10/2010 12:07:29 PM PST by stuartcr (When politicians politicize issues, aren't they just doing their job?)
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To: nickcarraway

Monica, your whiney, insignificant opinion has been noted. Now, either get a job or a hobby, so you have something productive to occupy your time, and let these people get on about their business. Geez.


22 posted on 12/10/2010 12:07:46 PM PST by Hoffer Rand (There ARE two Americas: "God's children" and the tax payers)
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To: nickcarraway
While that biyatch pi**es and moans about nothing, and while the nation is actually having a serious discussion about letting carpet munchers and pole smokers serve openly in the military, Venezuela is giving the green light to host Iranian missiles, North Korea is shelling South Korea, etc. When the invasion comes, the Chicoms are going to just walk in and take this country without breaking a sweat.

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

23 posted on 12/10/2010 12:09:06 PM PST by wku man (Still holding my breath, but exhaling a bit after Nov. 2...)
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To: loboinok

Read it again, you’re right, my bad. I still think it’s stupid.


24 posted on 12/10/2010 12:10:08 PM PST by stuartcr (When politicians politicize issues, aren't they just doing their job?)
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To: hoosierham

Thank-God the world doesn’t conform to your narrow minded vision.


25 posted on 12/10/2010 12:10:19 PM PST by Rebelbase
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To: Shimmer1
She can’t get the image out of her mind.

She'll probably sue for mental anguish.
26 posted on 12/10/2010 12:10:49 PM PST by stylecouncilor (What Would Jim Thompson Do?)
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To: loboinok

I don’t get why there’s a problem with the FIQ (freeper in question)....

it’s a Santa dressed as a cowboy. No contradiction. A Santa that is embracing the norms of traditional American culture.


27 posted on 12/10/2010 12:11:46 PM PST by MrB (The difference between a (de)humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: Rebelbase

It used to be considered polite to carry openly,
and sinister and dastardly to carry concealed.

But that was before the time when the virtue of “self-reliance” was spat upon.


28 posted on 12/10/2010 12:14:04 PM PST by MrB (The difference between a (de)humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: nickcarraway

This is one jolly old elf who's goin' out the front door!

29 posted on 12/10/2010 12:14:38 PM PST by GreenLanternCorps ("Barack Obama" is Swahili for "Jimmy Carter".)
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To: hoosierham

Read the reply a couple above your initial posting.
I see nothing wrong with a cowboy Santa!
Remember, he’s not real!
OOPs, don’t tell the kids.....BUT WE ARE TALKING SANTA!!!!!(Or at least a cardboard rendition)
RE: open carry, I agree I would never do that. Keep it concealed and dry, ready for use.....


30 posted on 12/10/2010 12:17:58 PM PST by 9422WMR (Illegal is not a race)
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To: nickcarraway

31 posted on 12/10/2010 12:21:22 PM PST by mbarker12474 (If thine enemy offend thee, give his childe a drum.)
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To: nickcarraway

Jesus holding shotgun over Santa:

http://www.dailyvsvidz.com/2009/12/jesus-holding-shotgun-vs-santa.html


32 posted on 12/10/2010 12:24:36 PM PST by mbarker12474 (If thine enemy offend thee, give his childe a drum.)
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To: stuartcr

His trees, land and santa.

I’d say that your opinion probably matters little except that he kept the gun covered in deference to the mush brain.

Merry Christmas!


33 posted on 12/10/2010 12:27:55 PM PST by loboinok (Gun control is hitting what you aim at!)
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To: nickcarraway
“It portrays to the kids that it’s OK for Santa to be carrying a gun and therefore it’s OK for them to be carrying a gun,” Sliva said.

Well, it IS OK for them to be carrying a gun!

34 posted on 12/10/2010 12:31:19 PM PST by meyer (Hey Obama - It's the end of the world as you know it.... ..... and I feel fine!)
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To: nickcarraway

”I tried to get the image out of my head all day long...” Sliva told KCRA.”

Well, try harder wench.


35 posted on 12/10/2010 12:32:36 PM PST by WKUHilltopper (Fix bayonets!)
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To: MrB

I don’t get it either! May be a rigid view of tradition coupled with a warped sense of freedom.

Santa brought me many guns in my youth.

Merry Christmas!


36 posted on 12/10/2010 12:35:54 PM PST by loboinok (Gun control is hitting what you aim at!)
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To: packrat35
let me guess. someones offended
37 posted on 12/10/2010 12:36:24 PM PST by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: nickcarraway

Have you SEEN some of these neighborhoods Santa is asked to go to these days? Sheesh! OF COURSE he’s packing!


38 posted on 12/10/2010 12:42:51 PM PST by bolobaby
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To: meyer

Well, it IS OK for them to be carrying a gun!


HARUMPF HARUMPF HARUMPF


39 posted on 12/10/2010 12:44:47 PM PST by MrB (The difference between a (de)humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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40 posted on 12/10/2010 12:45:16 PM PST by dfwgator (Congratulations to Josh Hamilton - AL MVP)
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To: nickcarraway

”I tried to get the image out of my head all day long and I could not, because Santa is made for love, bringing families together, not carrying weapons,” Sliva told KCRA”

So SHE was offended? The sight of a firearm won’t even keep a movie from getting a “G” rating.


41 posted on 12/10/2010 12:45:31 PM PST by Spok
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To: loboinok
"It's just a cowboy."

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!


42 posted on 12/10/2010 12:46:09 PM PST by bolobaby
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To: packrat35

I love the cowboy Santa. This woman needs to get the heck out of town. Turlock is a farming town. I wouldn’t have covered it. Free speech. When I was a kid, we all played with toy guns, and emulated our heroes Roy Rodgers, Hopalong Cassidy, and John Wayne. We were cowboys/cowgirls, soldiers, and police. There is a picture of me when I was about 5 or 6, dressed in my leather vest complete with sherrif’s star, wearing a six gun on both hips, while showing my Mickey Mouse hand puppet. This image would probably make her head explode.


43 posted on 12/10/2010 12:49:04 PM PST by oneamericanvoice (Support freedom! Support the troops! Surrender is not an option!)
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To: hoosierham
I just re-read the 2nd Amendment. It doesn't say one thing about HOW one’s Arms are to be borne.

In situations where I want to carry concealed, or in situations where concealed carry is required (such as inside the Virginia General Assembly Building), I carry concealed.

In situations where I want to carry openly, and I can do so legally, I open carry.

How I carry my self-defense weapons is none of YOUR business and you have NO business insinuating that I, or anyone else, are ‘show-offs’ simply because we choose to carry our weapons in a manner not personally approved by you.

RE: Open Carry:

1) I don't care about the criticism. A right which one is afraid to exercise due to a fear of criticism might as well not be a right at all.
2) I don't care about the reaction of the ‘fearful’. I am not a criminal, and by open-carrying I am not breaking any laws (at least not where I live).
3) It is a lot easier to quickly bring a weapon to bear when there is no shirt, jacket or pants in the way.
4) On hot days when I am wearing a t-shirt and shorts it is nearly impossible to carry concealed, and is MUCH more comfortable to simply wear a holster on my belt.

It has been my experience that most people do not even notice when I am open carrying — many even mistake the holster for a cell-phone holder.

44 posted on 12/10/2010 12:49:09 PM PST by WayneS (Enlightened statesmen will not always be at the helm. -- James Madison)
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To: bolobaby

Those are sheepherders not cowboys...


45 posted on 12/10/2010 12:50:04 PM PST by GreenLanternCorps ("Barack Obama" is Swahili for "Jimmy Carter".)
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To: nickcarraway

She needs a neighbor like me to tell her to get over it and there are things in life worth a concern and this ain’t one of them.....


46 posted on 12/10/2010 12:50:42 PM PST by Kimmers (Tell a lie often enough it becomes political........)
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To: loboinok

That was thoughtful of him. You’re right of course, none of our opinions really matter. That’s the nice thing about these forums though, we get to get them out to a max number of people, whether they want to hear them or not!...and it usually gives us a wee bit of satisfaction.

Merry Christmas!


47 posted on 12/10/2010 12:51:36 PM PST by stuartcr (When politicians politicize issues, aren't they just doing their job?)
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To: GreenLanternCorps

I bet the woman in this story would be totally OK if that was the type of cowboy Santa represented, though.


48 posted on 12/10/2010 12:56:38 PM PST by bolobaby
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To: bolobaby

LOL... Cowboys, not buttrangers!


49 posted on 12/10/2010 1:32:42 PM PST by loboinok (Gun control is hitting what you aim at!)
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To: loboinok

Yeah, well, since we were on the topic of cowboy images that one cannot get out of one’s head....


50 posted on 12/10/2010 1:38:07 PM PST by bolobaby
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