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Madoff son found dead in NYC in apparent suicide
AP/yahoo ^ | December 11th 2010 | AP/COLLEEN LONG

Posted on 12/11/2010 10:09:12 AM PST by ColdOne

NEW YORK – The eldest son of disgraced financier Bernard Madoff hanged himself by a dog leash in his apartment Saturday after two years of "unrelenting pressure

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1 posted on 12/11/2010 10:09:17 AM PST by ColdOne
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To: ColdOne

What did his son have to do with it?


2 posted on 12/11/2010 10:11:34 AM PST by Earthdweller (Harvard won the election again...so what's the problem.......? Embrace a ruler today.)
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To: ColdOne

Hope the dog didn’t get loose..hate to see an innocent dog run over or something.


3 posted on 12/11/2010 10:11:52 AM PST by Oldexpat
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To: ColdOne

He should have moved away.


4 posted on 12/11/2010 10:12:38 AM PST by Cheetahcat ( November 4 2008 ,A date which will live in Infamy.)
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To: ColdOne

Yikes, that’s to bad. Wouldn’t wish it on anybody.


5 posted on 12/11/2010 10:13:24 AM PST by MsLady (If you died tonight, where would you go? Salvation, don't leave earth without it!)
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To: ColdOne

Couldn’t live with the sins of his father? How sad for his family.


6 posted on 12/11/2010 10:17:07 AM PST by animal172 (Where are you America?)
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To: Earthdweller

As far as I can tell nothing. But, the pressure must have gotten to him. It’s to bad, what the old man did has effected in a terrible way 1000’s of people. Was it worth it all Madoff??? Look what your steeling has done. This really makes me sick to my stomach.


7 posted on 12/11/2010 10:17:13 AM PST by MsLady (If you died tonight, where would you go? Salvation, don't leave earth without it!)
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To: ColdOne
Sad. The story says that he reported his father to the authorities the day after he confessed to his two sons.

I would imagine he just couldn't take any more pressure. Authorities threatening to arrest him because he should have known about the scam earlier. Tort lawyers suing him in hopes of getting in on the action. Friends who were his father's victims lamenting the loss of their life savings.

Still, suicide is not the answer.

His 2-year-old son was sleeping in the next bedroom, the officials said.

8 posted on 12/11/2010 10:17:16 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius.)
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To: ColdOne

“His two year old son was sleeping in the next room”


9 posted on 12/11/2010 10:17:39 AM PST by optiguy (Government does not solve problems; it subsidizes them.----- Ronald Reagan)
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To: ColdOne

The problem with hanging is you have a few minutes to reconsider your decision while you strangle.


10 posted on 12/11/2010 10:17:55 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (DEFCON I ALERT: The federal cancer has metastasized. All personnel report to their battle stations.)
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To: Earthdweller

The article indicates some level of involvement/knowledge/benefit from the Ponzi scheme that brought down Daddy. He was likely “helping” Daddy.


11 posted on 12/11/2010 10:18:11 AM PST by SERKIT (We need more of Barry's "Wet Diaper" news conferences. He gets smaller and smaller each time.....)
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To: ColdOne

That’s sad.


12 posted on 12/11/2010 10:18:18 AM PST by native texan (Texas seafood is great)
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To: MsLady
Well victims can be irrational and likely went after anyone close to the crime. Too bad even some here think a man's son should pay for the parents crime..it's really bizarre and twisted thinking IMO.
13 posted on 12/11/2010 10:21:03 AM PST by Earthdweller (Harvard won the election again...so what's the problem.......? Embrace a ruler today.)
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To: SERKIT

He turned him in....


14 posted on 12/11/2010 10:22:01 AM PST by Earthdweller (Harvard won the election again...so what's the problem.......? Embrace a ruler today.)
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To: Earthdweller

He was in business with his father and in legal trouble too - being sued.
Don’t know if we’ll ever know how much he really knew and for how long long before he supposedly blew the whistle.

(gotta wonder about the symbolism using a dog leash)


15 posted on 12/11/2010 10:22:09 AM PST by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: ColdOne

Just wow——imagine all that weight on Bernie himself and now his son off’s himself. Bernie gets what he deserves but he is still human and I can’t imagine he has much will to live at this point and after this personal family tragedy.
Lord have mercy on them all and the victims most especially.


16 posted on 12/11/2010 11:08:45 AM PST by tflabo
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To: Earthdweller

I agree. Possibly the grief of a son, thinking his father was the greatest person in the world. To only find out the old man had ruined countless number of peoples lives. The guilt, even though he himself had done nothing wrong, you always have those thoughts of, I should have known. And the grief, I can’t imagine.


17 posted on 12/11/2010 11:25:23 AM PST by MsLady (If you died tonight, where would you go? Salvation, don't leave earth without it!)
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To: Earthdweller

My friend, a midwest kid right out of school, went to work as an accountant for a big name sports financial manager in San Diego. This guy was doing similar things that Madoff did and basically stole the life savings of many sports stars (some of whom you know). People like that are very careful and very smart, making sure accounts are secret and apart from the legal business, etc. When my friend caught wind that something wasn’t right, he turned his boss in and the ensuing fallout was horrible. Big news in San Diego in the mid 1990’s.

Well, for years my friend was battling lawsuits against him accusing him somehow of being involved. What usually happens is that the employees benefit from the largesse of the employer. Big bonuses, trips, etc. The victims want to believe the employees knew, but a lot of times they don’t. Naive? Perhaps. But instead of being treated as a hero, which he was, his life was ruined for several years. He had nothing.

I’m happy to report that his life is good, married, different line of work and happy.


18 posted on 12/11/2010 11:27:28 AM PST by Hildy
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To: ColdOne
Suicide???

Really???

19 posted on 12/11/2010 11:46:08 AM PST by evad (Every time a conservative votes, a liberal cries)
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To: nuconvert

“Don’t know if we’ll ever know how much he really knew ...”

It may have been he knew TOO MUCH and that is why he was suicided. Would you leave yourself for your children to find?


20 posted on 12/11/2010 11:52:02 AM PST by TruthConquers (Delendae sunt publicae scholae)
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To: nuconvert

The son’s worked for the market making side or legit side of the family business. This is where Madoff started. They probably could have just stayed in that business and made a decent living.

The son’s had to have been sophisticated enough to realize that Bernie’s claimed large and consistent returns in the separate “money management” business were essetially impossible.

Sad for the children. Many of the investors and feeders in Madoff’s scam were unpleasant people. Irving Piccard, the trustee, is going after Sonja Kohn in Austria hard. She was his major connection in Europe.

Bernie hurt a lot of people. His feeders like Sonja Kohn, Shapiro, Jaffee and the Noel family in CT need for hurtin.

2 feeders are dead including Picower who may have been whacked.


21 posted on 12/11/2010 12:02:09 PM PST by Frantzie
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To: nuconvert
(gotta wonder about the symbolism using a dog leash)

Like he couldn't afford a rope, or a gentle bottle of pills and a private spot to go to, or a hot air balloon, rather than hang himself where his young child could see him?

22 posted on 12/11/2010 12:03:59 PM PST by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (Grammar police off-duty. But I saw what you did.)
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To: ColdOne
In February, Mark Madoff's wife petitioned a court to change her last name and the last names of their two children, saying her family had gotten threats...

But he hanged himself with a dog leash in a loft apartment, when he could have fallen out a window....

23 posted on 12/11/2010 12:16:36 PM PST by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (Grammar police off-duty. But I saw what you did.)
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To: ColdOne

I’m sad for the little boy who lost his Daddy.

The worst thing in the world is to outlive your child, and this worst feeling in the world is being felt this second in prison by a Bernie Madoff. Even worse is that he knows he caused his son’s death. Kinda makes me smile.


24 posted on 12/11/2010 12:20:16 PM PST by Yaelle
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To: Yaelle
The worst thing in the world is to outlive your child, and this worst feeling in the world is being felt this second in prison by a Bernie Madoff.

I dunno, I'd pictured Bernie Madoff as having a George Soros type of conscience.

25 posted on 12/11/2010 12:31:01 PM PST by COBOL2Java (Obama is the least qualified guy in whatever room he walks into.)
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To: ColdOne
...two years of unrelenting pressure from false accusations and innuendo."

Life is a real killer isn't it?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhlWddAXSRA

26 posted on 12/11/2010 12:32:37 PM PST by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: MsLady

” Look what your steeling has done.”

I did not know he was a steel man!;)


27 posted on 12/11/2010 12:33:26 PM PST by Frank_2001
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To: optiguy

Oh my God, that is so soad. that poor child..prayers out to him and the mother...just so sad.


28 posted on 12/11/2010 12:48:50 PM PST by Recovering Ex-hippie
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To: Joe 6-pack
hanged himself by a dog leash in his apartment ping
29 posted on 12/11/2010 12:51:28 PM PST by ColdOne
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To: Frank_2001

Haha, very funny.


30 posted on 12/11/2010 12:53:18 PM PST by MsLady (If you died tonight, where would you go? Salvation, don't leave earth without it!)
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To: ColdOne

Perhaps this was an assisted suicide.


31 posted on 12/11/2010 1:19:13 PM PST by ponygirl
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To: Yaelle
"The worst thing in the world is to outlive your child"

I don't recommend it. But someone has to hang around and celebrate all that they were and remember ...

32 posted on 12/11/2010 1:29:02 PM PST by USMCPOP (Father of LCpl. Karl Linn, KIA 1/26/2005 Al Haqlaniyah, Iraq)
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To: 668 - Neighbor of the Beast

His child was in bed, and just before he offed himself he sent a text to his wife telling her to check on the boy, she was in Florida I believe. She immediately called her father who went over and found him dead, the little boy was sleeping in his bedroom and didn’t know what happened.


33 posted on 12/11/2010 1:35:14 PM PST by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: Abathar
"His child was in bed, and just before he offed himself he sent a text to his wife telling her to check on the boy, she was in Florida I believe."

Or, more accurately, a text from his phone to his wife's phone said to check on the boy.

How easily we assume...

34 posted on 12/11/2010 1:41:45 PM PST by GourmetDan (Eccl 10:2 - The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.)
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To: GourmetDan

I like a good conspiracy theory myself, but this one just feels like a guy who hoped that the Hindus, Buddhists or Sikhs are right and he gets another chance.


35 posted on 12/11/2010 1:50:17 PM PST by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: Abathar

Just commenting on how easily we assume certain things that we really don’t know.

I believe he was a Jew.

I don’t remember ‘another chance’ being part of their culture.


36 posted on 12/11/2010 1:52:32 PM PST by GourmetDan (Eccl 10:2 - The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.)
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To: GourmetDan

Nope, that’s why I used the word hoped, he knew he was committing a mortal sin doing it otherwise.


37 posted on 12/11/2010 2:05:28 PM PST by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: Abathar

That might mean only that the hit man doesn’t do two for the price of one...and the client didn’t want a 2-yr-old done.

As for the email, “write it or I’ll have to wake the baby.”


38 posted on 12/11/2010 2:11:53 PM PST by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (Grammar police off-duty. But I saw what you did.)
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To: GourmetDan

Most folks know the reference here is to phone texting, not a textbook. Another spin-off of our tech society.


39 posted on 12/11/2010 2:22:44 PM PST by Rennes Templar (Figures don't lie, but liars can figure.)
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To: ColdOne

Dear God this family has been though Hell. Yes he was criminal and ruined many lives but to lose a child before you pass away is the WORST.


40 posted on 12/11/2010 2:27:02 PM PST by napscoordinator
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To: ColdOne
Madoff son found dead in NYC in apparent suicide.

Bet the Police want to know WHO killed him.

41 posted on 12/11/2010 2:27:08 PM PST by jaz.357 (What if the "Hokey-Pokey" is REALY what it's all about?)
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To: ColdOne
How is what Madoff did any worse than what our government does?

FREE BERNIE MADOFF!

42 posted on 12/11/2010 2:33:39 PM PST by nonliberal (Graduate: Curtis E. LeMay School of International Relations)
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To: evad

If your fathers activities cause you too kill yourself you may have had mental problems to begin with. He obviously was no youngster.


43 posted on 12/11/2010 2:43:55 PM PST by X-FID
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To: ponygirl

..scenario, pop sends his henchmen to have a chat with Maddoff jr. is forced to write a confession and the family doggies choke chain ends up around his neck


44 posted on 12/11/2010 3:13:03 PM PST by KTM rider ( patriot turned rebel)
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To: Abathar

First you must assume that the suicide claim is accurate,

Then you must assume that he sent the text himself rather than someone else sending it from his phone (a common scam w/ lost phones),

Then you must assume that he put his eternal destiny is the ‘hope’ of something completely contrary to his culture.

Seems like a lot of assumptions needed to support the initial belief.

It seems more likely that the Madoff’s stole money from the wrong people and they sent a message to Bernie.


45 posted on 12/11/2010 3:14:24 PM PST by GourmetDan (Eccl 10:2 - The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.)
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To: Rennes Templar
"Most folks know the reference here is to phone texting, not a textbook. Another spin-off of our tech society."

My apologies if anyone inferred anything different.

46 posted on 12/11/2010 3:18:29 PM PST by GourmetDan (Eccl 10:2 - The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.)
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To: Cicero

Yet his bitch mother is stll fighting for assets. What a scum of a family and all those whose names have not been released yet.

One man doesn’t bilk these many people. It takes multiple connections along with banks.


47 posted on 12/11/2010 3:41:20 PM PST by mmanager
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
The problem with hanging is you have a few minutes to reconsider your decision while you strangle.

Yeah, that's gotta be a rough way to go. It would seem to me that the old pistol down the throat is a better way. Quick.

48 posted on 12/11/2010 3:50:32 PM PST by OldPossum
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To: Frank_2001
I did not know he was a steel man!;)

What are you driving at, John Henry?

49 posted on 12/11/2010 4:00:37 PM PST by sthguard (The DNC theme song: "All You Need is Guv")
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To: nonliberal
"How is what Madoff did any worse than what our government does? FREE BERNIE MADOFF! "

What Bernie Madoff did is EXACTLY what our congress does.

IMPRISON CONGRESS!

50 posted on 12/11/2010 4:20:57 PM PST by evad (Every time a conservative votes, a liberal cries)
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