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Kissinger: Gassing Jews would not be a US problem
jpost.com ^ | 12/11/10

Posted on 12/11/2010 6:43:12 PM PST by Nachum

‘If they put Jews into gas chambers in the Soviet Union, it is not an American concern.’ secretary of state heard telling Nixon on 1973 tape.

WASHINGTON – Henry Kissinger is heard saying the genocide of Soviet Jews would not be an American problem on newly released tapes chronicling President Nixon’s obsession with disparaging Jews and other minorities.

Kissinger’s remarks come after a meeting between the two men and former prime minister Golda Meir on March 1, 1973, in which Meir pleads for US pressure on the Soviet Union to release its Jews.

The men dismiss her plea after Meir leaves.

“The emigration of Jews from the Soviet Union is not an objective of American foreign policy,” The New York Times on Saturday quoted Kissinger, then secretary of state, as saying on the tapes. “And if they put Jews into gas chambers in the Soviet Union, it is not an American concern. Maybe a humanitarian concern.”

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To: Nachum

Henry Kissinger is a vile excuse for a human being, an exemplar of the RINOcrat foreign “realpolitik” that kept the Soviet Union in business for seventy years.


51 posted on 12/11/2010 8:58:06 PM PST by Carry_Okie (The environment is too complex and too important to manage by central planning.)
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To: Nachum

I never have liked or trusted Kissinger. Even back in the day when I was a clueless Democrat, I thought the man was evil. Still do.


52 posted on 12/11/2010 9:10:23 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Nachum

Kissinger would be right. Why would the gassing of Jews in the former Soviet Union be an American problem? I would think that it would be a Jewish problem. What does America owe the Jews living in the former Soviet Union? Maybe I am missing something here, but America is not obligated to anyone but its own citizens.


53 posted on 12/11/2010 9:11:54 PM PST by Nosterrex
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To: Nachum
...chronicling President Nixon’s obsession with disparaging Jews and other minorities... Sad - caught a speech by Ben Stein, who worked in the Nixon White House, at the Nixon Library on C-Span not long ago. Stein, who is Jewish, gave a rousing and heart-felt defense of Nixon and his accomplishments, and addressed specifically Nixon's supposed anti-semitism, pointing out that Nixon had appointed numerous Jews to high positions and worked closely with them, including strangely the Dr. Kissinger used to wallop Nixon in this story. Stein said that Nixon's anti-Jewish comments arose usually out of frustration and were no worse than much else he heard in all circles at the time. Eventually when the Nixon-haters are all dead and gone this sort of obsession with continued smears of the man will be gone too - but it sure is taking a long time.......
54 posted on 12/11/2010 9:42:27 PM PST by Intolerant in NJ
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To: Intolerant in NJ

Nixon was the man they loved to hate.


55 posted on 12/11/2010 9:46:44 PM PST by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Spitzensparkin1
Please....

Did you actually read that article before you posted it?

"Soros is quite close to the circles of George Bush in the U.S. intelligence community and finance."

"Col. Oliver North’s Contra drugs-for-weapons network during the late 1980."

On June 8, 1993 the chairman of the U.S. House of Representatives’ Committee on Banking, Rep. Henry Gonzalez

(D-Tex.), made a speech charging that the U.S. government, under the previous Bush and Reagan administrations, had
systematically refused to prosecute the BCCI, and that the Department of Justice had repeatedly refused to cooperate
with Congressional investigations of both the BCCI scandal and what Gonzalez claims is the closely related scandal of
the Atlanta, Georgia Banca Nationale del Lavoro, which was alleged to have secured billions in loans from
the Bush administration to Saddam Hussein, just prior to the Gulf War of 1990-91

NOT one word of the DNC and SOROS.

Propaganda.

56 posted on 12/11/2010 9:51:39 PM PST by DaveTesla (You can fool some of the people some of the time......)
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To: All; potlatch
Nixon replies: “I know. We can’t blow up the world because of it,” which puts things into context.

They agree treatment of Jews in USSR may be a humanitarian concern, particularly if the Soviets turned to gas chambers.

However, is it something the US should risk nuclear annihilation over?

It's the harsh reality of the Cold War era.

When Saddam used mustard, VX and sarin gases on the Kurdish people, murdering thousands, was Iraq swiftly invaded by the int'l community and Saddam deposed, tried and convicted? No. It took about 25 years.

Don't pretend you're not overreacting to these words from Kissinger because it's about Jews and gas chambers. The same calculus would necessarily take place regarding WASPS or any group.

57 posted on 12/11/2010 9:51:50 PM PST by newzjunkey (expired "Bush tax cut" = Obama Tax Increase)
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To: Nachum

It reveals how little Kissenger understands America.


58 posted on 12/11/2010 10:05:55 PM PST by PaleoBob
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To: Nachum

Lets face it with the creation of Israel, Jews went off the deep end, divisions amongst Jews became more acute, just look at the Ashkenazim vs Sephradim clash in Israel. IMHO Jews were more united and better people prior to 1948.


59 posted on 12/11/2010 10:51:24 PM PST by Eddie Quist
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To: Spitzensparkin1

If you want to contact the moderators, put their name in the To: space in your post. They don’t read everything posted unless directly addressed.


60 posted on 12/11/2010 10:53:08 PM PST by Lucius Cornelius Sulla ('“Our own government has become our enemy' - Sheriff Paul Babeu)
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To: Nachum

Thank you God that Ronald Reagan did not subscribe to the attitudes of Nixon or Kissinger! We wouldn’t ahve Natan Sharansky!


61 posted on 12/11/2010 10:55:11 PM PST by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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To: jjotto; SJackson; muawiyah; forkinsocket; Nachum

jjotto wrote:”Kissinger is considered a sage because he believed in the inevitable triumph of socialism (not that he believed it would be a good thing). He saw himself as helping to ease the transition of America into just another socialist state.”

Ok, I found this:

“Today Americans would be outraged if U.N. troops entered Los Angeles to restore order; tomorrow they will be grateful. This is especially true if they were told there was an outside threat from beyond, whether real or promulgated, that threatened our very existence. It is then that all peoples of the world will plead with world leaders to deliver them from this evil. The one thing every man fears is the unknown. When presented with this scenario, individual rights will be willingly relinquished for the guarantee of their well being granted to them by their world government.”

http://quotes.liberty-tree.ca/quote/henry_kissinger_quote_2d8b

Can you give more info on Kissinger and “inevitable socialism”?

PS - I found this at the bottom of the article on Kissingers “gas” quote linked above to Jpost:

“Six months later, during the Yom Kippur War, Nixon rejected Kissinger’s advice to delay an arms airlift to Israel as a means of setting the stage for an Egypt confident enough to pursue peace; Nixon, among other reasons, cited Israel’s urgent need.”

The Quaker helped Israel, while the jino turned his back...


62 posted on 12/11/2010 11:26:00 PM PST by Yehuda (Land of the free, THANKS TO THE BRAVE!)
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To: Nachum

For a bit of perspective, I’d like to present part of the late Yitzhak Rabin’s comment on recent US presidents:

“Reagan was good, Carter was terrible, but Nixon...that man saved Israel.”

Just as at Peking, Nixon proved able to alter old perceptions to new realities. In this case, earlier anti-Semitic tendencies were overridden in the need to save Israel during the Yom Kippur War. While there was much to genuinely dislike about Nixon, he had the strength of character to do what his reason told him needed to be done.


63 posted on 12/11/2010 11:45:25 PM PST by tanuki (O-voters: wanted Uberman, got Underdog....)
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To: Nachum
Kissinger, Soros.......... soilent green. A Christmas wish for this holiday season!
64 posted on 12/12/2010 4:13:21 AM PST by ronnie raygun (V)
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To: wally_bert

good one :)


65 posted on 12/12/2010 5:50:17 AM PST by samtheman
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To: Intolerant in NJ
It's penicillin ~ that's why those critics are living on into the future.

Without it they'd mostly be dead and gone by now ~ like normal people in the good old days.

Dementia may well explain why they've moved on to create a cottage industry criticizing the Palin kids.

Todd should be encouraged to send them brand new very sharp stainless steel ULUs to play with. You flip one of those things around a few times without training and you'll be short members.

66 posted on 12/12/2010 5:50:17 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: DaveTesla

It needs updating. This article was published in 1996.


67 posted on 12/12/2010 6:23:42 AM PST by Natural Born 54 (FUBO x 10)
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68 posted on 12/12/2010 6:40:20 AM PST by SJackson (In wine there is wisdom, In beer there is freedom, In water there is bacteria.)
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To: samtheman

This man is from Kissinger’s generation, born in January of 1926. He served in the Marines in WWII, is in the country music hall of fame and is STILL PERFORMING as he approaches his eighty fifth birthday.

A real American hero in my book.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mCrAvgzt9Ng

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYD5js6p91c&feature=fvst


69 posted on 12/12/2010 6:58:32 AM PST by RipSawyer (I wanna help Sarah cook some caribou steaks!)
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To: bareford101

He always was a cold-blooded bastard.

Henry the K was the man who once said, “The military is composed of stupid animals who are only useful for implementing foreign policy.”

Of course there is this memorable quote about Henry by one Lyndon Larouche, of all people: “Kissinger has the morals of a Bulgarian pederast.”


70 posted on 12/12/2010 7:01:58 AM PST by Scanian
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To: ZULU

Many years ago, back in the seventies IIRC, I was up late one night with a case of insomnia and happened to see some preacher on TV who seemed to have about a third grade education. He was going through the most convoluted illustration you can imagine to prove that Henry Kissinger is the anti-christ. It was akin to some of Farakhan’s insanity but he made Farakhan sound like a doctor of philosophy. He never did state a conclusion, posing it instead as a question, “Is Henry Kissinger the anti-christ?” He left no doubt as to what his own conclusion was. I wish I had a video of that, it was surreal. Meanwhile Kissinger himself seems bent on proving that he would have to develop a conscience before moving UP to being the anti-christ.


71 posted on 12/12/2010 7:10:12 AM PST by RipSawyer (I wanna help Sarah cook some caribou steaks!)
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To: Nachum

Henry Kissinger - the messenger boy of the New World Order.


72 posted on 12/12/2010 7:20:32 AM PST by RoadTest (Religion is a substitute for the relationship God wants with you.)
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To: RoadTest

Yeah, and he can take his message and stuff it.


73 posted on 12/12/2010 7:51:53 AM PST by Natural Born 54 (FUBO x 10)
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To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide
If someone put Henry Kissinger in a gas chamber, it would be about 40 years late.

No kidding!! One of the most evil men to ever live, and that's before I even knew about this latest quote.

74 posted on 12/12/2010 8:06:53 AM PST by Borax Queen
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To: DaveTesla
Yes, I did read the whole article and I know it is not referenced and may NOT be 100% but it has some good information about Soros and Kissinger that may not be common knowledge. As for the Bush and North comments, they are from a speech by Gonzalez, nothing more.

Feel free to post about DNC and Soros all you want.

75 posted on 12/12/2010 8:52:28 AM PST by Spitzensparkin1 (Arrest and deport all illegal aliens. Americans demand our jobs back! Whooorah, Arizona!)
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To: Natural Born 54; Spitzensparkin1
Updating?

Oliver North was not trading drugs with the Sandinistas.

That was Roger Clinton and
Barry Seal.

It was DNC Lead Attorney Richard Ben-Veniste who just happened to be Barry Seal's attorney who bragged to
the WSJ that he had dumped Roger Clintons drug running partner in Arkansas into George H. Bush's lap.

The article is propaganda and more to the point BS.

76 posted on 12/12/2010 9:02:43 AM PST by DaveTesla (You can fool some of the people some of the time......)
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To: Nachum

“maybe”?


77 posted on 12/12/2010 9:07:31 AM PST by Eleutheria5 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7XrRyqses5U)
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To: muawiyah
Thanks for providing the context of the times for Kissinger's remarks.

BTW, people who don't think Nixon was Conservative enough to meet our modern standards, just remember that the pukes who are attacking the Palin children are the same crowd who attacked Nixon.

Yes, it's that same snotty "we're proud to be on the enemies list" crowd that sees Palin and her family as hopelessly gauche, and not worthy of the Beltway.

There are times when I feel a Bastille Moment coming on and darkly wish to see some aristocratic heads roll.

78 posted on 12/12/2010 9:20:09 AM PST by happygrl
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To: Spitzensparkin1
“may NOT be 100”

Read it again.
It is a hit piece on Margret Thatcher, George Bush,
Oliver North and even Ronald Reagan.

Democrats accusing conservatives of what their doing.

Some of us know better.
Communist propaganda.

79 posted on 12/12/2010 9:23:01 AM PST by DaveTesla (You can fool some of the people some of the time......)
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To: DaveTesla

Ok. Some of that happened at a time in my life when I wasn’t able to pay enough attention to such things. Thanks for the correction. Makes me wonder how much of the article is factual.


80 posted on 12/12/2010 1:36:15 PM PST by Natural Born 54 (FUBO x 10)
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To: newzjunkey
[Don't pretend you're not overreacting to these words from Kissinger because it's about Jews and gas chambers]

I'm not pretending anything and I'm not a Jew.
I would react the same way to anyone who said, “If they put Jews [or anyone] into gas chambers in the Soviet Union, it is not an American concern”.

It's not only an American concern, it's a humanitarian concern.

81 posted on 12/12/2010 2:31:04 PM PST by potlatch ( Life must be lived forward but can only be seen looking backward. - Soren Kierkegaard)
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To: Sawdring
"Some say they based Dr. Strangelove on Henry Kissinger..."

Unlikeley. Dr. Strangelove was released in 1964. At that time, Kissinger had only been a Harvard prof and had served as a campaign adviser to Nelson Rockefeller's failed bids for the GOP presidential nomination.

Kissinger didn't rise to national prominence until 1968 when Nixon made him National Security Adviser. You're probably right abouth Kahn, and also W. von Braun and other German scientists we imported following WWII.

82 posted on 12/12/2010 2:42:41 PM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: ZULU

>>I hate him even more now after a statement like this.<<

Hatred is such a heavy load to carry. It will slow you down. Just learn from his statements and carry on your good life.


83 posted on 12/12/2010 3:51:35 PM PST by B4Ranch (Do NOT remain seated until this ride comes to a full and complete stop! We're going the wrong way!)
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To: Nachum
For what it's worth - Here .......
84 posted on 12/26/2010 9:35:32 PM PST by Intolerant in NJ
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