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World Net Daily fabricates a "Missile" Contrail tale
Faith, Reason, and Health ^ | 12/12/2010 | Dr. Brian Kopp

Posted on 12/12/2010 10:47:16 AM PST by Brian Kopp DPM

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To: Rokke

I’m searching for it now. Someone said he took 57 pics on a thread about three weeks ago or more. No one ever questioned it then or any of the dozen times I’ve mentioned since. Every night I do three hours of research for you guys who do none.


541 posted on 12/16/2010 8:54:34 PM PST by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/28/08 and why?)
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To: TigersEye

The difference between your research and our research apparently, is that we actually produce something. Good luck on the Warren search. I already looked.


542 posted on 12/16/2010 8:59:08 PM PST by Rokke (www.therightreasons.net)
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To: Rokke

What do you mean “we?” Others have produced a lot on both side. You haven’t produced a thing. Other than the little yellow helicopter.


543 posted on 12/16/2010 9:30:26 PM PST by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/28/08 and why?)
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To: TigersEye; TXnMA
That little yellow helicopter wasn't mine. TXnMA did that. But I have posted so many pictures and videos of missile launches that Finny dedicated several posts to accusing me of trying to distract everyone away from the Leyvas video (you can follow her lead and check my posting history for that). I also posted all the photos explaining the lines of sight from the LAX camera and the Leyvas video that you don't understand. And just a few posts ago, I provided the actual DoD statement on the contrail. Most recently, I pointed out to you that Warren only took 12 pictures. So in a sense, I'm even doing work for you.
544 posted on 12/16/2010 9:36:13 PM PST by Rokke (www.therightreasons.net)
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To: Rokke

Why would anyone take 12 pics of an ordinary airplane contrail? If you can work in an answer between all of your “research?” ROTFLOL


545 posted on 12/16/2010 9:38:47 PM PST by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/28/08 and why?)
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To: Rokke

Thanks for admitting that you haven’t posted anything that hasn’t been posted fifty times before you did.


546 posted on 12/16/2010 9:40:37 PM PST by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/28/08 and why?)
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To: TigersEye
That's easy. It wasn't an ordinary airplane contrail. It was interesting. Different. The sunset made it even more interesting. But it remains...an airplane contrail. And 12 pictures of anything by someone with a photography hobby isn't extraordinary. Especially not in the digital age.

But one thing 12 pictures aren't...is 57. Or even 50. Keeeeeep lookin.

547 posted on 12/16/2010 9:44:13 PM PST by Rokke (www.therightreasons.net)
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To: TigersEye
"Thanks for admitting that you haven’t posted anything that hasn’t been posted fifty times before you did."

I think you're getting your numbers confused with your bogus Warren photo count. But while you're researching, please point out anywhere someone else depicted the line of site from LAX or Long Beach Harbor to UPS902. I'll be satisfied with one. Not fifty.

548 posted on 12/16/2010 9:47:04 PM PST by Rokke (www.therightreasons.net)
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To: Rokke
That little yellow helicopter wasn't mine. TXnMA did that.

Yet you took credit for it here.

You lied about me last night and tonight you just lie. Or then you lied. Who knows?

" How much original material have you posted to this subject? Any?" - TE

We're discussing it right now and have been for multiple posts. The line of sight diagrams from LAX and Long Beach harbor. - Rokke

That's it for you.

549 posted on 12/16/2010 10:52:16 PM PST by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/28/08 and why?)
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To: Rokke
I can copy and paste too...see? :o)

Inquiries made by the Northeast Intelligence Network has so far verified the following:

- There were no warning or advisories to aircraft or air traffic controllers. According to one supervisory ATC from LAX interviewed today, “this was totally unexpected.”

- No U.S. missile tests were scheduled or conducted at that time and location, according to a Pentagon contact;
–Pentagon source 9 November 2010 1510 hours ET

- “This was not an accidental launch. The methods required to launch a missile of this size and presumed type is too complex and involves more than one person, that’s all I can say.”
– Pentagon source; 9 November 2010; 1510 hours ET

–”Oh yes, they know exactly where it came from and what type of missile it was, but are not saying. There are a lot of meetings taking place right now inside the ring [a reference to the Pentagon].”
– Pentagon source; 9 November 2010; 1510 hours ET

–”China, Russia, Iran, France are four countries that have the capabilities for this type type of launch. And of course, we do too. But it was not us. There’s scuttlebut about a cargo ship and China, but that’s all it is, scuttlebut.”
– Pentagon source; 9 November 2010; 1510 hours ET

550 posted on 12/16/2010 11:57:50 PM PST by Niteflyr ("The number one goal in life is to parent yourself" Carl Jung)
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To: Finny
Speaking for myself, my posts pretty much form the start on this haven’t been to “debate” with the people pushing the contrail, but to give lurkers a wider view.

OK..:o) I'll clarify that a little...was wondering why those who think it was nothing are still on these threads posting wildly...as soon as I was convinced it was nothing I'd have no reason to be here.

551 posted on 12/17/2010 12:04:00 AM PST by Niteflyr ("The number one goal in life is to parent yourself" Carl Jung)
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To: TigersEye
"You lied about me last night and tonight you just lie. Or then you lied. Who knows?"

I've tried, but I can't compensate for your lack of intelligence. That does not make me a liar. You have never understood what a line of sight is. That makes you ignorant of that topic, which apparently frustrates you. Here is the post where I explained the lines of sight to UPS902... Post #290. I posted it to TXnMA and started with "I extended your plotted line of site from the Leyvas video to the approximate location of the UPS902 flight path. Not surprisingly, it intersects almost exactly the lat/long of where Flightaware says UPS902 was at 5:15." He responded with "BRAVO!! Triangulation -- I knew you would figure out a way do it with the materials and tools at hand! My new tagline honors you! Is there any direction the "missle [sic] folks" can turn now to prop up their mania?"

TXnMA obviously gets it. You don't. My response to his last question now would be, "Yeah, they won't get it and accuse everyone who does of being a liar."

Now I won't call you a liar for repeatedly posting about 50 Warren photographs. You were mistaken. That is a trend for you, but you'll never admit.

552 posted on 12/17/2010 7:33:30 AM PST by Rokke (www.therightreasons.net)
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To: Niteflyr
"I can copy and paste too...see? :o) "

Bravo. But there is a difference between posting legitimate sources (the official DoD statement delivered by its official spokesman)like I did, and posting comments from an unknown person from an unknown source. Where did you get your quotes? Who is "Pentagon source"? For all anyone knows, it could be the parking lot attendent for Pentagon Lot C.

There is a difference between being ignorant and being willfully ignorant. I believe you are the latter. That makes you a perfect candidate for conspiracies like this. And a wet dream for "news" sources like The National Enquirer, WND and CBS news.

553 posted on 12/17/2010 7:40:33 AM PST by Rokke (www.therightreasons.net)
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To: TigersEye

Now, now TigerEye. Jane’s reversed their initial missile assessment.


554 posted on 12/17/2010 8:28:40 PM PST by Tommyjo
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To: Tommyjo

So far no one has produced that statement. Would you do that please?


555 posted on 12/17/2010 8:31:22 PM PST by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/28/08 and why?)
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To: TigersEye

I’ve already provided you and others with the links in other threads. Remember the Air Forces Monthly thread with the poster Mercurius who has a subscription?

Mercurius wrote

The Jane’s account of the event has now gone up online on the Jane’s Missiles & Rockets website, and they are accepting the airliner-contrail explanation.

Apparently the initial short section of the recording their editor had seen did look like a missile, but a longer-duration version that later emerged convinced them it was an aircraft contrail.

Jane’s allowed 169 words of the 523 word article on the events of 8th November to be published freeview online. The rest is visible with a very expensive subscription. Mercurius posting on the subject via Air Forces Monthly magazine forum provides the subscription details.


556 posted on 12/17/2010 8:46:22 PM PST by Tommyjo
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To: Tommyjo
I’ve already provided you and others with the links in other threads.

Not to me you haven't.

Remember the Air Forces Monthly thread with the poster Mercurius who has a subscription?

I have never heard of that thread or that poster.

Pretty much what I expected from you. Nothing.

557 posted on 12/17/2010 8:52:37 PM PST by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/28/08 and why?)
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To: TigersEye

Do you even read the threads that you post to? This is a typical response from you. Most people following this story have read and followed every thread on the subject. Jane’s Rocket and Missiles dropped the assessment. Live with it. You are clinging onto initial statements that were dumped by Janes weeks ago.


558 posted on 12/17/2010 9:03:25 PM PST by Tommyjo
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To: TXnMA

There is nothing to say to you...the obvious is there for anyone to see...it had the trajectory and contrail of a missile, not a plane for heaven sakes..yikes!


559 posted on 12/17/2010 9:34:54 PM PST by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo in laughter")
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To: Tommyjo
Do you even read the threads that you post to?

I have read every thread on the subject. I put keywords on every one of them too. There is no thread with that title so if there is one I never saw it.

This is a typical response from you.

That is a typical condescending remark. Typical of you and typical of most con-trailers. It would have been ten times as easy for you to post a link to the statement than the empty posts you spent your time on tonight. Usually that's a sure sign you're just blowing smoke.

560 posted on 12/17/2010 10:15:48 PM PST by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/28/08 and why?)
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