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More US soldiers killed in Afghanistan during 2 years of Obama’s compared to 8 years under Bush
iCasualties.org ^ | 12/12/10

Posted on 12/13/2010 3:24:47 AM PST by Evil Slayer

http://icasualties.org/oef/

(Excerpt) Read more at icasualties.org ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: bush; obama; roe; wot
Obama's rules of engagement and definance of this nation and it's military is disgraceful to the point of treason.
1 posted on 12/13/2010 3:24:53 AM PST by Evil Slayer
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To: Evil Slayer

It is so curious that the major networks no longer run nightly bios of fallen soldiers! Remember when they ran a daily list of names of the dead? It could have been a very noble thing except that it was so obviously a political attack on GWB!


2 posted on 12/13/2010 3:28:45 AM PST by REPANDPROUDOFIT (General, sir, it is perfectly ok to call me "ma'am"!)
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To: Evil Slayer

ROE, from the head Muslim


3 posted on 12/13/2010 3:30:59 AM PST by Doogle ((USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: Evil Slayer

We’ve paid a zilion dollars for weapons that could have ended wars inc. Iraq and Afghanistan but nobody will use them . Instead we send our young over there with one hand tied behind their backs to die for what exactly ? Better start building another Vietnam-like memorial with the names of the dead on it . We haven’t won a war since 1945 , really . Think about it .


4 posted on 12/13/2010 3:31:45 AM PST by sushiman
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To: FR_addict

ping


5 posted on 12/13/2010 3:34:39 AM PST by Evil Slayer (Onward, Christian soldiers, marching as to war)
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To: Evil Slayer

“3 times as many U.S. soldiers killed under Obama‘s 2 year watch as were under Bush’s entire 8 years”

My God, is it really THAT bad? I had no idea.
Under Bush, we were reminded of every single death.

The sad part is that there are many Obots out there that
will say “It’s a good thing”.


6 posted on 12/13/2010 3:37:50 AM PST by AlexW
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To: Evil Slayer

The headline is false.


7 posted on 12/13/2010 3:40:16 AM PST by deks ("...the battle of our time is the battle of liberty against the overreach of the federal government")
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To: Evil Slayer
This is from the article:

   Year   US  UK  Other Total
   2001  12   0   0     12
   2002  49   3   18    70              
   2003  48   0   10    58
   2004  52   1   7     60
   2005  99   1   31    131
   2006  98   39  54    191
   2007  117  42  73    232
   2008  155  51  89    295
   2009  317  108 96    521
   2010  486  101 105   692
   Total 1433 346   483 2262

8 posted on 12/13/2010 3:43:58 AM PST by palmer (Cooperating with Obama = helping him extend the depression and implement socialism.)
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To: deks
Is the article filled with 'false' statistics as well?

http://icasualties.org/oef/

If this headline is false, can you direct us FREEPERS to the truth regarding the number of U.S. casualties since 2009 relative to the period 2001 - 2008?

Thank you.

9 posted on 12/13/2010 3:47:08 AM PST by wmileo
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To: wmileo

You figure it out. (clue...Iraq)


10 posted on 12/13/2010 3:50:42 AM PST by deks ("...the battle of our time is the battle of liberty against the overreach of the federal government")
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To: REPANDPROUDOFIT
"It is so curious that the major networks no longer run nightly bios of fallen soldiers!"

I think there's something even more sinister behind this than solely the Media that tried to damage Bush now protecting Obama.

I am convinced that, many/most anti-American press were more concerned amount soldiers dieing in Bush's effort to win a war, than dieing in a war they know Obama has no intention of winning. American victory has always been unthinkable for the 5th column.

11 posted on 12/13/2010 3:50:56 AM PST by drpix
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To: REPANDPROUDOFIT
CORRECTION:

that, many/most anti-American press = that many/most in the anti-American press

12 posted on 12/13/2010 3:53:36 AM PST by drpix
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To: palmer
3 times as many U.S. soldiers killed under Obama‘s 2 year watch as were under Bush's entire 8 years

This is from the article:

   Year   US  UK  Other Total
   2001  12   0   0     12
   2002  49   3   18    70              
   2003  48   0   10    58
   2004  52   1   7     60
   2005  99   1   31    131
   2006  98   39  54    191
   2007  117  42  73    232
   2008  155  51  89    295
   2009  317  108 96    521
   2010  486  101 105   692
   Total 1433 346   483 2262


2001-2008 total for the U.S. is 630. 2009-2010 total is 803. That's a little less than 30% greater, not three times greater. The average for Barry is 401/year, for Bush, about 79. So you could say average yearly deaths under Obama is about 5 times higher than average yearly U.S. deaths under Bush or that Barry's first two years were 16 times higher than Bush's first two years or that Barry's second year is about 10 times higher than Bush's second year or that Barry's second year is about 3 times higher than Bush's last year.
13 posted on 12/13/2010 3:56:26 AM PST by aruanan
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To: Evil Slayer

The stats are only for the Afghanistan War
If you use the Iraq war then it reverses.
Obama is an evil scourge on this Nation but let’s deal with him with a little honesty less we become just like him.


14 posted on 12/13/2010 4:13:38 AM PST by SECURE AMERICA
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To: aruanan
about 3 times higher than Bush's last year

Thanks for pointing that out. I should have said that instead of "entire 8 years". I picked up the headline from another source prior to posting the article.

It still is a very high causality rate compared to the last year of Bush's watch. I still believe it has more to do with the new rules of engagement rather than the larger number of troops over there since Obama took office.

15 posted on 12/13/2010 4:15:39 AM PST by Evil Slayer (Onward, Christian soldiers, marching as to war)
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To: wmileo
Problem is, the statistics in the article don't even support the title. As pointed out in post 13, they don't add up. Also, they are not stating specificity to Afghanistan in the headline. Misleading and demonstrably false data doesn't help in the argument against the obvious ineptitude of the current CiC.
16 posted on 12/13/2010 4:19:49 AM PST by edpc (It's Kräusened)
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To: wmileo

Re: 3 times as many U.S. soldiers killed under Obama‘s 2 year watch as were under Bush’s entire 8 years

Please forgive me. I like to include links in my comments...a link to information is one of the best things on Free Republic, but I was getting some breakfast. I’ll post the links that I have found.

I saw that a figure of 1400+ killed could not include Iraq (and remembered when the media made an event of reaching 3,000 killed in Iraq.

The page linked to the headline is Operation Enduring Freedom(Afghanistan), and also we went into Iraq in 2003.


17 posted on 12/13/2010 4:21:12 AM PST by deks ("...the battle of our time is the battle of liberty against the overreach of the federal government")
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To: Evil Slayer

Well duh, Muslim POTUS don’t want to be targeted by pissed off Moslems.
I bet there will be many a new law wrote to prevent this from happening again.

All possible future Presidential nominees must be vetted for any and all Islamic sympathizing or beliefs. No wonder Obama has had associates hiding his past so much.


18 posted on 12/13/2010 4:22:27 AM PST by Eye of Unk (If your enemy is quick to anger, seek to irritate him. Sun Tzu, The Art of War.)
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To: Evil Slayer

Obama should be arrested, tried for treason and brought to justice by a jury of the families of those killed by his ROE.


19 posted on 12/13/2010 4:22:36 AM PST by thethirddegree
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To: Evil Slayer

It isn’t hard to notice how the media covers for him by saying “NATO troops”.

Almost all the time they are American troops.


20 posted on 12/13/2010 4:25:28 AM PST by dforest
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To: Evil Slayer; Admin Moderator

“I picked up the headline from another source prior to posting the article.”
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I know someone who can fix that for you.


21 posted on 12/13/2010 4:25:33 AM PST by Repeal The 17th
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To: All

The Department of Defense page for Military Casualty Information.

http://siadapp.dmdc.osd.mil/personnel/CASUALTY/castop.htm


22 posted on 12/13/2010 4:25:43 AM PST by deks ("...the battle of our time is the battle of liberty against the overreach of the federal government")
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To: Evil Slayer
3 times as many U.S. soldiers killed under Obama‘s 2 year watch as were under Bush's entire 8 years

There were over 4200 soldiers killed in Iraq and over 600 killed in Afghanistan while Bush was president. The totals for Obama are 208 and 803. I think the headline is incorrect.

23 posted on 12/13/2010 4:29:56 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: All

FATALITIES AS OF: December 10, 2010, 10 a.m. EST

http://www.defense.gov/news/casualty.pdf


24 posted on 12/13/2010 4:33:52 AM PST by deks ("...the battle of our time is the battle of liberty against the overreach of the federal government")
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To: palmer

These look like Afghanistan only statistics.


25 posted on 12/13/2010 4:34:36 AM PST by Dark Wing
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To: Evil Slayer

Correct headline should read:

More US soldiers killed in Afghanistan during 2 years of Obama’s compared to 8 years under Bush.

(apprx. 800 vs apprx 630)


26 posted on 12/13/2010 4:34:37 AM PST by icwhatudo ("laws requiring compulsory abortion could be ustained under the constitution"-Obama official)
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To: Evil Slayer

True.


27 posted on 12/13/2010 4:54:42 AM PST by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.8)
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To: Evil Slayer

3 times the number in 2 years... means 12 times the rate of getting American killed.

and yes, the press use to name the names nightly while pushing to be able to photograph the flag draped coffins returning.

where are those photos now? where are the nightly recounts?

what about the number of injured?

if you were to hate America... and found yourself in the top spot... and had the ability to undermine and kill American troops...


28 posted on 12/13/2010 6:32:17 AM PST by sten
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To: Evil Slayer

Soooooo,
Why aren’t the libs and code pink harassing the “magic Negro” every minute of every day like they did Bush?


29 posted on 12/13/2010 6:33:57 AM PST by Joe Boucher ((FUBO))
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To: Evil Slayer
Ask questions first, and shoot later. Can't have a round in the chamber when patrolling. Miranda rights for the enemy? Let terror suspects go if they can't be brought in for questioning within 48 hours? If they shoot at you and then drop their guns and run you can't shoot them? In other words, how do you lose a war without trying?...Put the democrats in charge, that's how.
30 posted on 12/13/2010 6:38:21 AM PST by broken_arrow1 (I regret that I have but one life to give for my country - Nathan Hale "Patriot")
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To: Evil Slayer
Where are they?


31 posted on 12/13/2010 6:57:47 AM PST by shiva
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To: indylindy

You said....It isn’t hard to notice how the media covers for him by saying “NATO troops”.

I heard on the radio yesterday “six NATO troops killed”, and I thought to myself - NATO troops...from what country?

Yes, the media is covering for Obama.


32 posted on 12/13/2010 7:52:55 AM PST by deks ("...the battle of our time is the battle of liberty against the overreach of the federal government")
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To: deks

This morning on Drudge he had it as US troops.

I wasn’t surprised. Even FOX plays that game.


33 posted on 12/13/2010 7:55:57 AM PST by dforest
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To: Evil Slayer; All; kristinn

When will ABC’s Nightline do a special?


34 posted on 12/13/2010 7:58:15 AM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: Evil Slayer

“I picked up the headline from another source prior to posting the article”.

Then you should have used a link to that source to avoid confusion.


35 posted on 12/13/2010 8:47:46 AM PST by Admin Moderator
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To: Evil Slayer

When General McChrystal went to President Obama to turn in his resignation, Barack bitterly said “You’ll probably intend to piss on my grave someday.” The General replied, “No, Sir, once I’m out of this man’s Army, I’m not standing in line for anything ever again!”


36 posted on 12/13/2010 11:47:47 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet ("You don't have a soul. You are a Soul. You have a body." CS Lewis)
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