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Taliban in Afghanistan may be rallying despite General Petraeus insistence enemy is worn out
NYDailyNews,com ^ | November 5th 2010 | Editors

Posted on 12/13/2010 4:41:57 AM PST by Robert Drobot

WASHINGTON — The American public aren’t the only ones feeling weary from nine years of war in Afghanistan - so are cave-dwelling Taliban leaders, according to Gen. David Petraeus' command in Kabul.

Petraeus’ NATO headquarters insists the enemy is getting worn out from living on the run or underground, even though forward commanders "downrange" and senior U.S. counterterror officials in Washington have told the Daily News that the Taliban are rallying in the face of the U.S. troop surge this year.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: enemy; political; taliban; war
WHAT HAS BEEN THE BODYBAG COUNT SINCE YOU TOOK OVER GENERAL ? HOW MANY MEN HAVE YOU RETURNED TO THE STATES WITHOUT LIMBS OR DISFIGURED ? YOU HAVE 100,OOO AMERICAN MEN ON THE GROUND IN AFGHANISTAN. HOW MANY WILL YOU LET DIE FOR THE SAKE OF PUBLIC RELATIONS GENERAL ? IF GENERAL PATTON WERE ALIVE HE'D KNOCK YOU ON YOUR ASS. YOU'RE NO GENERAL; YOUR'RE A POLITICAL KISS-ASS.
1 posted on 12/13/2010 4:42:05 AM PST by Robert Drobot
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To: Robert Drobot

So what dyou suggest he do?


2 posted on 12/13/2010 4:54:40 AM PST by ketelone
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Suicide bomber kills 6 [ American ] troops in Afghanistan

By Ernesto Londoño
Washington Post Foreign Service
Sunday, December 12, 2010; 2:58 PM

KABUL - Six U.S. troops were killed Sunday when a man rammed a minivan packed with explosives into a newly built military installation in Kandahar Province, U.S. and Afghan officials said.....The Obama administration, which authorized a 30,000-troop surge last year, is expecting an interagency report of the state of the war later this month. The assessment will be used to fine-tune the [ NINE YEAR OLD ] United States's counterinsurgency strategy in Afghanistan as the war enters its 10th year.

Fine tuning.....maybe it needs to include elimination of the current rules of engagement !!!

3 posted on 12/13/2010 5:07:41 AM PST by Robert Drobot (Qui tacet consentit)
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To: Robert Drobot

With the surge, more conficts were anticipated. So is it the rules of engagement since the Obama administration?

There was a recent article on FR that NATO military is routinely releasing captured combatants.


4 posted on 12/13/2010 5:08:34 AM PST by Incorrigible (If I lead, follow me; If I pause, push me; If I retreat, kill me.)
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To: Robert Drobot

That rant is BS. The general is not able to kill everything in sight and the world, much less America, will not tolerate the collateral casualties necessary to do as you desire.

The Taleban will never be destroyed. The best hope is to kill enough and the super radical leaders to force the majority into reintegration into the society.

The numbers of casualties is not large. That statement doesn’t matter if you are dead or maimed, but it is true. Compared to other campaigns the casualties are minimal and would be coveted by the President of Mexico’s war against the cartels.

We are there to disallow the country as a center of operations for Al Queda. That is still a solid reason for being there. When Al Queda support wanes or moves the reason will be gone. We can leave.

Regarding the corruption of Hamid Karzi. Is his administration more corrupt than that of Barack Obama? Of course not. Karzi is a piker when the value of stolen $$$ is compared.


5 posted on 12/13/2010 5:08:36 AM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. N.C. D.E. +12 .....( History is a process, not an event ))
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To: Robert Drobot

Petraeus is worthless,,,

His ROE orders are getting the troops KIA/WIA,,,

Many troops are killed for lack of fire support,,,

Mite hurt the wimmins and chuldruns!!!

AQ and tali forces depend on the dope trade for this war,,,

Kill the poppy fields/farmers and it’s Game Over!!!

Sure makes me wonder who is making all the money off

that dope???...


6 posted on 12/13/2010 5:23:07 AM PST by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: bert
The support that Al Qaeda receives from outside Afghanistan - support which America has not had the political will to interdict, under both Bush and Obama - ensures that they can stay there as long as they like.

Do you think that Americans will accept the current military status quo in Afghanistan for a generation?

Or two? Or three?

7 posted on 12/13/2010 5:43:44 AM PST by Notary Sojac (I've been ionized, but I'm okay now.)
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To: Robert Drobot

I’m not buying any of this. There is a major change going on
right now in the tide of war in Afghanistan favor of the USA.

Its because of the surge and the introduction of numerous
new technologies.

The USA is decapitating taliban leadership in Afghanistan and then taking them down in detail.

What’s left is on the other side of the border. Each time fresh taliban troops cross the border they enter an ever more hostile country.


8 posted on 12/13/2010 6:02:42 AM PST by ckilmer (Phi)
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To: bert

To be honest and forthright I’m not a Petraeus fan. Any General Officer who will sit still for the Marxist Onada’s ROE in Afghanistan is not my kind of general.

In addition, the entire WOT has persisted for far too long. This thing should have been over at least 8 years ago. And for that I blame the entire senior military leadership—past and present. To those who say soldiers must obey the orders of the political class I say you’re right. But these officers can refuse to play the political game by resigning. There are more than enough outlets to explain the reason for the resignation and thereby deny the pols political cover.

That said, it is impossible to stop every Muslim raghead homicide bomber. To infer from one—or even several homicide bombings—that that the Taliban, as a group, is reconstituting itself is like saying a single lightning strike foretells the end of the world.


9 posted on 12/13/2010 6:11:20 AM PST by dools0007world
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To: dools0007world

When the Taliban is armed with arms from past invaders, this tells the story, that is going to be difficult to impossible. Why don’t we just declare a victory and leave. Remember: IT’S OBAMA’S WAR! Pray for our poor country.


10 posted on 12/13/2010 7:26:05 AM PST by barb-tex (What else did you expect from the likes of 0? BTW, What ever happened to Rhodesia?, Oh, yes, Zimbabw)
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To: bert

The Taliban had the snot beat out of them by the Northern Alliance and just a few of our SF guys. It can be done, but not in the way we are doing it. With all of this “hearts and mind” crap, it has given Iran and Pakistan the upper hand.

This van ran through a check point manned by Afghani’s. I know y’all say they are corrupt, but I think they are more inept, remember they are illiterate. The driver should have been blown to bits before he got anywhere near the entrance!


11 posted on 12/13/2010 7:28:22 AM PST by panthermom
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To: Robert Drobot

Isn’t this the new installation that was built right next to the road. I don’t understand why competent military leaders do dumb stuff at our troops expense. Watch Restropo!


12 posted on 12/13/2010 7:36:42 AM PST by mcshot (The golfing dude's grandmother knows where he was born - ask her.)
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To: mcshot

Make that RESTREPO which is on Netflix watch now.


13 posted on 12/13/2010 7:52:39 AM PST by mcshot (The golfing dude's grandmother knows where he was born - ask her.)
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To: barb-tex

Leaving is not an option. Reasons:

A. It is and always has been about oil. If Afghanistan is ceded to the Taliban (1) Iran’s ablity to put pressure on Iraq and the other so-called moderate Arab states grows exponentially. (2) To the Muslim-Arab world our defeat in Afghanistan will be seen as weakness. Do you think this will diminish or increase the potential for terroism here in America and around the world?

B. The blood of our soldiers has been spilled in Afghanistan and Iraq. I’m willing to accept that as a condition of Mid-East oil dependence. For you to toss that sacrifice aside as though it is meaningless I find repugnant.

My son is a career American soldier. He’s been in the Army for almost 19 years. He’s been in harm’s way four times and is about to be deployed to a war zone for the fifth time. He’s been separated from his family (wife, son and daughter) six of his 19 years of service (including an unaccompanied tour of duty in Korea). There are thousands od soldiers—men and women—like him. And there are many thousands of parents, aunts, uncles, cousins etc. who must learn to live with the possibility that their loved one may not come home in one piece or alive.

I think your priorities are skewed, my friend.

The solution to extricating ourselves from the Mid-East is to be energy independent of it. It really is as simple as that. What’s more, technology has taken the pollution/wild-life threat arguments off the table. If we learned nothing from BP’s Gulf of Mexico oil spill it is this: (1) Oil has been leaking into the ocean naturally for thousands of years and nature has taken care of it. (2) Oil from leaking wells is containable and nature will assist in the clean-up. Also, spills of the Gulf magnitude are very rare occurances.


14 posted on 12/13/2010 10:08:28 AM PST by dools0007world
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To: dools0007world

Thanks for your son’s service.

RE: Oil - Cui Bono?

When America doesn’t drill her own, only our enemies benefit.

We need a sane energy policy.


15 posted on 12/13/2010 11:48:46 AM PST by 1010RD (First Do No Harm)
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