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Boehner faces historic decision on 2010 tax-cut Christmas tree
Washington Examiner.com ^ | December 12,1012 | Hugh Hewitt

Posted on 12/13/2010 8:37:36 AM PST by Hojczyk

Boehner is a tough, wily and underestimated son of Ohio, one of 12 children, a product of Catholic schools, a Bishop Moeller Crusader through and through.

He is said to be loyal to his friends and to the traditions of the House, and last week he promoted three long-serving Republicans to the leadership of three committees where various sets of reformers had hoped to see new faces for a new era.

Tea Party activists are outraged and, worse by far, the Pledge to America that Boehner and his colleagues promulgated on a House Web site as binding on the Republicans of the current House seems to be in shreds because of the "tax deal" that turned into a Christmas tree with ethanol and windmills under its branches.

Now Boehner faces a choice. He can in good conscience declare that the deal he agreed to has been buried under a mountain of pork and that, upon further reflection, he ought not to have gone along with it in the first place because of the explicit, specific provisions in the Pledge to America he captained and is now in a position to advance.

Boehner can make a stand as memorable as the one he took on Feb. 13, 2009, when he dropped 1,100 pages of an unread stimulus bill on the floor of the House and denounced the process that produced in near-secrecy such a deficit-driving monster.

There are enormous risks to that course. Markets could be unsettled and even sell off for a few days. The president will denounce Boehner as untrustworthy, and the Washington Post, the New York Times and Politico will repeat the charge without examination of the White House's capitulation to the spending frenzy demanded by Democrats as an additional bit of blackmail necessary to

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TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bipartisanship; boehner; crying; cuts; deal; earmarks; ethanol; extension; pork; porkulus; tax; taxes; tree

1 posted on 12/13/2010 8:37:38 AM PST by Hojczyk
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To: Hojczyk

If he does not scuttle the entitlement/tax bill, the republican party will be competing with a 3rd party in 2012.

It is almost a certainty.

We should rename it “The Christmas Tree Bill.”


2 posted on 12/13/2010 8:43:09 AM PST by old curmudgeon
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To: Hojczyk

He’s too busy crying on 60 minutes.


3 posted on 12/13/2010 8:44:13 AM PST by neodad (USS Vincennes (CG 49) "Freedom's Fortress")
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To: Hojczyk

Don’t hold your breath, That “Pledge” was purely symbolic!


4 posted on 12/13/2010 8:45:38 AM PST by mongo141
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To: old curmudgeon

I just called Boehner’s DC office to comment on the Tax bill that is full of pork and not what the message sent on November 2nd was about . It became immediately clear that his staffer didn’t want to hear anything I had to say. He cut me off and hung up.

Give it a try yourself at 202-225-3121 ask for Boehner’s office.


5 posted on 12/13/2010 8:46:26 AM PST by ExTexasRedhead
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To: Hojczyk

No deal. Wait until January when our guys get in office.


6 posted on 12/13/2010 8:50:04 AM PST by RedMDer (Forward with Confidence!)
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To: mongo141

The “Pledge To America” expired at midnight, Nov.2, 2010.


7 posted on 12/13/2010 8:52:00 AM PST by Roccus (OUR GOVERNMENT IS COMPRISED OF BUFFOONS, TRAITORS, CRIMINALS AND IDIOTS!!!!!!!)
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To: Hojczyk

Kill the bill!


9 posted on 12/13/2010 8:55:17 AM PST by grobdriver (Proud Member, Party Of No! No Socialism - No Fascism - Nobama - No Way!)
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To: RedMDer

This lame duck business is for the birds anyway. After an election, it seems lunacy to let the old crew that has been soundly rejected to stay on for another three months or so to do whatever they please.


10 posted on 12/13/2010 8:55:54 AM PST by Twinkie (Doing nothing is the most tiring job there is; you can't quit and rest . .)
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To: Hojczyk

Ok all of you boehner supporters... boehner was shown on a clip on abc this morning, where he was crying again... this time in favor of the dream act. Through tears and broken voice he sobbed that we must find a way to allow these illegal children to become citizens... so that they to could have the same chance at the American dream that he had growing up. That is not the man we need as Speaker and I hope his dimrat ways out him and that he loses the vote for his most cherished dream... because his dream will destroy our dream.

LLS


11 posted on 12/13/2010 8:57:19 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (WOLVERINES!)
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To: Hojczyk
BOEHNER Knees
12 posted on 12/13/2010 8:57:31 AM PST by FrankR (The Evil Are Powerless If The Good Are Unafraid! - R. Reagan)
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To: LibLieSlayer
Through tears and broken voice he sobbed that we must find a way to allow these illegal children to become citizens...

It's become abundantly clear that this man is unstable.

13 posted on 12/13/2010 9:04:50 AM PST by Prokopton
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To: Hojczyk

He had nothing to do with the tsunami that swept DC in November, and the 80+ new Republicans should not be bound to vote for the old war horse as Speaker. There needs to be someone who is not tied to Washington’s ways. The newbies need to stick together and tell the dinosaurs what’s what.


14 posted on 12/13/2010 9:08:09 AM PST by Defiant (There is no line on the march towards marxism that Democrats won't cross. Democrat=CPUSA)
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To: Twinkie

Yep. Just creates a bigger mess to me cleaned up later.


15 posted on 12/13/2010 9:08:22 AM PST by RedMDer (Forward with Confidence!)
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To: old curmudgeon
"If he does not scuttle the entitlement/tax bill, the republican party will be competing with a 3rd party in 2012."

Sir, that statement is as true as the day is long.

There are millions of us that will scuttle the GOP if they sign on to this spending. Millions.

Enough to ensure the loss of the WH, 10 Senate Seats and and 100 house seats.

We'll do it, too.

16 posted on 12/13/2010 9:10:51 AM PST by Mariner (USS Tarawa, VQ3, USS Benjamin Stoddert, NAVCAMS WestPac, 7th Fleet, Navcommsta Puget Sound)
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To: old curmudgeon

I believe you are right. And if this goes through (and the Dream Act also appears to be on the verge of passage), the Republicans are toast and the next two years will be spent in the construction of a new political party.


17 posted on 12/13/2010 9:13:18 AM PST by Melchior
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To: Defiant
There needs to be someone who is not tied to Washington’s ways. The newbies need to stick together and tell the dinosaurs what’s what.


Just wanted to be sure you (we) were heard.

18 posted on 12/13/2010 9:14:44 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: grobdriver

19 posted on 12/13/2010 9:14:44 AM PST by New Jersey Realist (Congress doesn't care a damn about "we the people")
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To: FrankR

Boner has been a pu$$y moderate rino all along. He raised his voice 2 or 3 times before the election in the face of a full fledged COMMUNIST COUP. What a hero /s

Such nutless POS we have for Repubikan ‘Leadership’

What good is a taxcut when our currency is worthless.....you boneheaded dem bootlickers.

I WANT Bachmann for Speaker of the House.


20 posted on 12/13/2010 9:16:36 AM PST by Electric Graffiti (I'm armed and Amish.)
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To: Hojczyk
...because of the "tax deal" that turned into a Christmas tree with ethanol and windmills under its branches.

And what makes you think Boehner didn't know about that ahead of time?

21 posted on 12/13/2010 9:18:14 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: Hojczyk

Ethanol is the Ultimate Earmark. If the GOP goes along with this, as I think it surely will, it will be interesting to see how many self-described fiscal conservatives try to rationalize this obvious betrayal.


22 posted on 12/13/2010 9:25:20 AM PST by madprof98 ("moritur et ridet" - salvianus)
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To: RedMDer

Who is on our RINO hunting list? Let’s get ready now...


23 posted on 12/13/2010 9:32:56 AM PST by Mr. K ('Profiling' is much worse than grabbing your balls)
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To: old curmudgeon

Yeah!

That third party will be the Chinese Communist party!


24 posted on 12/13/2010 9:36:24 AM PST by MontaniSemperLiberi (Moutaineers are Always Free)
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To: madprof98

Ag subsidies are less than 0.5% of the budget. It may be an earmark, but chasing straws and ignoring the strangling and ever-growing entitlements is not going to help with fiscal stability. People recieving handouts for sitting still should be the target for cuts, not people producing valuable products.


25 posted on 12/13/2010 9:39:46 AM PST by Neoliberalnot ((Read "The Grey Book" for an alternative to corruption in DC))
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To: Melchior

No, us Americans are toast and the next forty years will be spent in the construction of a new political party.


26 posted on 12/13/2010 9:42:09 AM PST by B4Ranch (Do NOT remain seated until this ride comes to a full and complete stop! We're going the wrong way!)
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To: Hojczyk

Ethanol is the last straw. It is symbolic of everything that is wrong with our regulatory system. For a while, the environmentalists were fooled into supporting it, but I don’t know any who support it now.

It wrecks engines.

I don’t care if there are more expensive boondoggles. This is one of the worst. If Boehner allows it he is toast.

And there’s a second problem with this. If he allows himself to be run over by a bunch of lame duck losers, he will never win another battle in congress. An effective party requires strong, smart leadership.

First the put the light bulb destroyer in charge of energy, then they put the king of pork in charge of pork. And now this. No, it won’t fly.


27 posted on 12/13/2010 9:50:31 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius.)
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To: Prokopton

Amen!

LLS


28 posted on 12/13/2010 10:05:34 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (WOLVERINES!)
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To: Neoliberalnot

If the government has to subsidize it we don’t need it!!!


29 posted on 12/13/2010 10:20:27 AM PST by ontap
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To: B4Ranch

“Us” [sic] Americans are not toast. The way things are going there will be a Tea Party national political convention held in March-April of 2012. The Republican Convention will be an afterthought.


30 posted on 12/13/2010 10:29:56 AM PST by Melchior
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To: Melchior

That would require that all the Tea Party groups join hands and vote together. I don’t think that is likely to happen.


31 posted on 12/13/2010 10:56:55 AM PST by B4Ranch (Do NOT remain seated until this ride comes to a full and complete stop! We're going the wrong way!)
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To: ontap

Agreed, but not until all government subsidies are eliminated can I support your assertion. No check of any kind should come from government except to those that earn it. That is where we differ. I favor eliminating support for all that are not making a contribution.


32 posted on 12/13/2010 11:24:08 AM PST by Neoliberalnot ((Read "The Grey Book" for an alternative to corruption in DC))
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To: Mr. K
Who is on our RINO hunting list?

It's like wackamole. They keep popping up. Right now I'm closely following a really good conservative candidate, Charles Lollar. He ran against Steny and is still running. He is a USMC veteran and he is regrouping for another operation to knock the weasle Steny out of congress.

33 posted on 12/13/2010 4:12:38 PM PST by RedMDer (Forward with Confidence!)
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To: knarf

That’s quite a megaphone you gave me. Now if I could only find my soapbox...


34 posted on 12/13/2010 11:04:58 PM PST by Defiant (There is no line on the march towards marxism that Democrats won't cross. Democrat=CPUSA)
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To: Neoliberalnot

What in my post suggests I don’t agree with what you just posted?


35 posted on 12/15/2010 9:37:59 AM PST by ontap
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To: ontap

Farmers work very hard in a high-stress, high risk occupation. They do not receive government checks without making significant contributions in taxes and in support of society by raising cheap food and providing the nation’s #1 export—agricultural products. The receivers of entitlement checks to those who do nothing is where my strongest objections reside—farmers are not in this category.


36 posted on 12/15/2010 9:54:18 AM PST by Neoliberalnot ((Read "The Grey Book" for an alternative to corruption in DC))
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To: Neoliberalnot

I agree but farmers should not be paid NOT to grow something.


37 posted on 12/16/2010 12:15:19 PM PST by ontap
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To: ontap

I am guessing you don’t farm. I ask you to consider what is our nation’s most valuable resource—topsoil. Largely because of agribusiness, the US is a world power and is responsible for more than 20% of the trade in global agriculture products. Trust me, the conservation reserve program which allows topsoil to be regenerated is not a bad investment in the our nations future.


38 posted on 12/16/2010 1:45:04 PM PST by Neoliberalnot ((Read "The Grey Book" for an alternative to corruption in DC))
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