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Grounds for hope for the climate change agenda ( George Soros says...UN Needs the Money )
Guardian (UK) ^ | Monday 13 December 2010 17.34 GMT | George Soros

Posted on 12/13/2010 1:13:02 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach

A new bottom-up approach holds better prospects for success than the cumbersome UN negotiations

Grounds for hope for the climate change agenda

A new bottom-up approach holds better prospects for success than the cumbersome UN negotiations

Cancun climate change badge 620 Grounds for hope for the climate change agenda

A new bottom-up approach holds better prospects for success than the cumbersome UN negotiations

The official communique from the Cancún climate change conference cannot disguise the fact that there will be no successor to the Kyoto protocol when it expires at the end of 2012. Japan, among others, has withdrawn its support for efforts simply to extend the Kyoto treaty.

This sounds like bad news, because it means that there will be no international price on carbon, and, without a market price, it is difficult to see how the reduction of carbon emissions can be efficiently organised. But appearances can be deceiving.

Even as the top-down approach to tackling climate change is breaking down, a new bottom-up approach is emerging. It holds out better prospects for success than the cumbersome United Nations negotiations.

Instead of a single price for carbon, this bottom-up approach is likely to produce a multiplicity of prices for carbon emissions. This is more appropriate to the task of reducing carbon emissions than a single price, because there is a multiplicity of sectors and methods, each of which produces a different cost curve.

The market price of anything is always equal to the marginal cost. When there is a single price, all the various cost curves are merged into one and low-cost projects enjoy large rents. This makes the cost of reducing carbon emissions much larger than it needs to be.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: globalscam; globalwarminghoax; marxist; soros; spookydude; un

1 posted on 12/13/2010 1:13:11 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: NormsRevenge; steelyourfaith; Grampa Dave; SierraWasp; tubebender; Carry_Okie; Brad's Gramma; ...

Not sure what is going on....A bottom up approach???


2 posted on 12/13/2010 1:15:25 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: All
Related thread:

Cancun in a nutshell: nothing achieved but it’s a Big PR Success (RE: The Global Money Scam )

3 posted on 12/13/2010 1:17:14 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Market pressure? Messing with the energy supply?


4 posted on 12/13/2010 1:21:45 PM PST by dhs12345
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From the comments:

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MattJames370

13 December 2010 5:53PM

George Soros has lost a fortune on climate change investments, and is desperate to recoup his money.

Individual countries such as Germany are making binding unilateral commitments that are not conditional on what other countries do, and "coalitions of the willing" are being formed to tackle particular sectors.

Countries such as Germany are giving themselves a competitive disadvantage. The coalition of the willing will get economically crushed by the coalition of the un-willing.

The general is telling you his army has been destroyed, but the good news is that a few bands of lightly armed partisans are hiding in the hills.


5 posted on 12/13/2010 1:22:02 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
I'm supposed to care that the UN wants money? I hate the UN.
I would pay good money to see it destroyed on PPV.
6 posted on 12/13/2010 1:22:42 PM PST by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/28/08 and why?)
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Related story at the Guardian:

Cancún agreement rescues UN credibility but falls short of saving planet

7 posted on 12/13/2010 1:24:35 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
UN needs the money

Then fork it over, George.

8 posted on 12/13/2010 1:24:35 PM PST by windsorknot
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To: TigersEye

Me Too!


9 posted on 12/13/2010 1:25:48 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; Normandy; Whenifhow; TenthAmendmentChampion; Clive; scripter; Darnright; ...
Thanx Ernest_at_the_Beach !

 


Beam me to Planet Gore !

10 posted on 12/13/2010 1:26:03 PM PST by steelyourfaith (ObamaCare Death Panels: a Final Solution to the looming Social Security crisis ?)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Bottom up approaches basically means violence from the left.


11 posted on 12/13/2010 1:33:39 PM PST by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: steelyourfaith
Ever heard of the Redd agency?

Thanks to Google found this:

Agency in international climate negotiations

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Author(s): Schroeder, Heike.

Reference: Agency in international climate negotiations: the case of indigenous peoples and avoided deforestation. International Environmental Agreements: Politics, Law and Economics, 10 (4): 317-332. 2010.
Type: Articles
Abstract:

This article examines the agency of indigenous peoples in designing a mechanism for reducing emissions from deforestation and forest degradation (REDD) under the emerging post-2012 agreement to the United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change. It investigates whether indigenous peoples have agency in international negotiations and specifically the REDD design process and if so, how they have obtained it. Agency refers to the ability of actors to prescribe behaviour and to substantively participate in and/or set their own rules related to the interactions between humans and their natural environment. The aim of this study is to gain understanding of what role non-nation state actors, particularly indigenous peoples, play in shaping the REDD design process under the climate convention and what is shaping their agency. A special emphasis is placed on indigenous peoples as they may be highly vulnerable to the impacts from both climate change and certain policy responses. The article finds that, through REDD, indigenous peoples and forest community alliances are emerging in the climate regime but their agency in designing a mechanism on forest protection in a post-2012 climate regime remains indirect and weak. They are being consulted and invited to provide input, but they are not able to directly participate and ensure that their views and concerns are reflected in the outcome on REDD.

Keywords: Agency; Avoided deforestation; Earth system governance; Indigenous peoples; REDD; United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change (UNFCCC)

Link:
Associated Analytical Problems: Agency
Associated Crosscutting Themes: Power
Associated Flagship Activities: Climate System

12 posted on 12/13/2010 1:36:22 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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The above is from a website....


13 posted on 12/13/2010 1:37:55 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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And we have :

Welcome at the website of the Earth System Governance Project.

14 posted on 12/13/2010 1:40:44 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Carry_Okie

fyi


15 posted on 12/13/2010 1:42:34 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Thanx ! Never heard of REDD before.
16 posted on 12/13/2010 1:43:54 PM PST by steelyourfaith (ObamaCare Death Panels: a Final Solution to the looming Social Security crisis ?)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I think I was able to translate that ESG gibberish. Basically it says “we have appointed ourselves to use really poor rural people in third world countries as PR props for our agenda of sucking trillions of dollars from industrialized nations into our own pockets. We will leave them no choice but to leave the forests and jungles completely or stay there in a condition more primitive than when us evil white men first found them. But we will convince them that they did it for a good purpose.”


17 posted on 12/13/2010 2:02:26 PM PST by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/28/08 and why?)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Do we have names for members of the treasonous U.S. “delegation”?
18 posted on 12/13/2010 2:18:25 PM PST by BenLurkin (This post is not a statement of fact. It is merely a personal opinion -- or humor -- or both)
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Well i would start with B***s,,...and add some description to that....!


19 posted on 12/13/2010 2:27:40 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Soros can donate all his money to that sinkhole, governments should leave the taxpayers alone.


20 posted on 12/13/2010 2:28:16 PM PST by GeronL (#7 top poster at CC, friend to all, nicest guy ever, +96/-14, ignored by 1 sockpuppet.. oh & BANNED)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

sfl


21 posted on 12/13/2010 2:41:30 PM PST by phockthis
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
George Soros has lost a fortune on climate change investments,

Well ain't that sweet!

22 posted on 12/13/2010 2:51:48 PM PST by SouthTexas (WE are the Wave)
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To: TigersEye

*I’m supposed to care that the UN wants money? I hate the UN.
I would pay good money to see it destroyed on PPV.*

It would be great if the UN went broke!
Think of the misery that would end and the lives saved!

What an ugly zit on the world.
I hope it goes away quickly


23 posted on 12/13/2010 2:52:40 PM PST by PATRIOT1876 (The only crimes that are 100% preventable are crimes committed by illegal aliens)
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To: TigersEye
I'm supposed to care that the UN wants money? I hate the UN. I would pay good money to see it destroyed on PPV.

Along with Soros.

24 posted on 12/13/2010 3:40:47 PM PST by Marathoner (Repeal the 17th amendment, and the 16th for good measure.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

“The general is telling you his army has been destroyed, but the good news is that a few bands of lightly armed partisans are hiding in the hills.”

What a pleasant scene. When do we loose the hounds and go get ‘em?


25 posted on 12/13/2010 4:44:31 PM PST by sergeantdave
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

What we are looking at is 007’s Spectra’s Dr. No. One percent control 90% of the wealth.


26 posted on 12/13/2010 5:15:45 PM PST by Paul Pierett (Paul Pierett)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Something devious. New ways must be found to get at our money.


27 posted on 12/13/2010 7:14:46 PM PST by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned....)
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