Skip to comments.Stockholm bomber: family blame Britain for radicalisation
Posted on 12/13/2010 3:25:55 PM PST by Berlin_Freeper
Taimur Abdulwahab al-Abdaly showed little interest in religion as he was growing up in Sweden, channelling his energies into sport and partying.
But after he began attending Bedfordshire University in Luton everything changed as he became a strict Muslim with increasingly extremist views, even naming his baby son Osama in honour of the al-Qaeda mastermind Osama bin Laden.
On Saturday he blew himself up in a street full of Christmas shoppers in Swedens first suicide attack, after recording a message which promised to kill your children, daughters, brothers and sisters
(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...
Is this real? Is this Europe...
"... Abdulwahab travelled to Syria two years ago, where it is believed he was trained in explosive techniques.
If Muzlims living in Western countries travel to the Middle East, Pakistan, Yemen, Somalia, etc., they should never be allowed to return to the West, and they should be required to live out their lives in Muzlim countries.
No it’s not. It is reasonable and self-preserving.
“...after recording a message which promised to kill your children, daughters, brothers and sisters
And the only person he managed to off was...himself. Good job, moron.
“If the United States wants seriously to eradicate terrorism, the first capital that should be pounded with cruise missiles is London,” Colonel Gaddafi said on the Arabic satellite news channel al-Jazeera.
“It is the shelter of terrorism,” he added, referring to charges that Islamic militants suspected of violence are protected by Britain’s policies on political asylum.
Works for me!
HOW DARE EUROPEAN SOCIALIST SOCIETIES AND THEIR DOCTRINE OF ENCOURAGING THE IGNORANT TO FREELY EXPRESS ANTICHRISTIAN BIGOTRY FORCE SOME OF MY FAMILY MEMBERS TO BECOME MURDERING SUICIDAL ASSHOLES!?!?!?
Exactly. England didn’t do it, Islam did. Apparently, this guy even got kicked out of the notorious Luton mosque in England (a radical mosque that’s under surveillance and doesn’t want to attract attention to itself).
But Islam is a violent terrorist cult and always has been, and until it is wiped off the face of the earth, it always will be.
"with increasingly extremist views, even naming his baby son Osama in honour of the al-Qaeda mastermind Osama bin Laden. . ."then surely they'll identify all the imams who influenced their impressionable son. And once the imam's and mosque members who had so much influence over their gullible son, this outraged family will assist the Queen's service in prosecuting, convicting and then support the deportation of all these influential pious evil-doers. . .Right? When citizens of the UK witness Luton being cleansed of the terrorist influence with the aid of this family, then we'll begin to believe ever evasive existence of the moderate muslim. Until then, pound sand.
That’s kind of the point...
Makes you think......how is it that these suicide bombers have gotten so amaturish since 9/11 to the point where they can barely blow up themselves let alone anything or anyone else, where 9/11 was a perfectly detailed run that was flawless in it’s execution. Sounds like they had some help?
I agree. Realistic pragmatism is the best approach. You must articulate your point from an intellectual perspective though, or it will get lost in the noise, and never see the light of day.
How can you articulate your point intellectually? Say this person was born in Europe. When a lib asks you the question why they should be treated any differently from a 10-100th generation european, what do you say, and how do you say it such that you show that your view comes from a heart of compassion and care about our world (which you MUST)?
Don't give obama any ideas.
First I would explain how I love being condescended to.
Islam is to blame. Just like the Oregon bomber who wanted to take out Christians at a tree lighting ceremony.
I think partly:
1) We've somewhat culled the herd.
2) Prior to 9/11, with the fine Gorelick 'wall' in place, wannabe terrorists could practice all they want without fear of detection. Now they tend to be a little 'rushed' in their evil endeavors.
3) The Good Lord still provides HIS protection. I can't say we merit it, but HIS protective and restraining hand is still present...
Sweden meets the Satanic cult of Islam, act one. The trinity of hate, lies and death pour forth from the heart of the beast of Islam.
Condescending? Perceiving useful and genuine discussion as some kind of threat will get you nowhere. Get over it.
You, and others like you on this board, are never going to achieve anything with simple unnuanced statements of what you consider to be right.
An intellectually nuanced case can be made for what you said before. Clearly you must think so, or it would not be your opinion. That case can be stated many ways. I was trying to encourage you to state it your own way, since I have heard my version many times. I thought I might get something out of it.
First I would explain how I love being condescended to. You are insufferable.
Get over yourself. The point of this board is the advancement of conservative thought, not for the same old “we should send them back” posted 15 times on these threads.
What’s insufferable is when people perceive any attempt to raise the bar as an attack.
That would be “inthufferable.”
Would you please just leave me alone and find some junior high school student who is interested in your pontifications, since that is the age level you address? You are overbearing and presumptuous. I feel sorry for your family.
I am with you 100%, I want to see that happen in Canada too.
How nasty and uncalled for! I pray for peace for you.
You started it, and I pray that you will stop posting to me.
well, jumping on since I live in Europe. There should be no discrimination based on race. However, Islime is not a race, but a violent creed, just as nutzis are banned in Germany, so too should Moslems be banned in Europe as a whole. There — I don’t care if they are descended from completely Aryan Europeans or whatever, if they are follower of Mo, out they go — they can live in that paradise called SAudia.
Delphi written all over this one. Either Delphi, or maybe he's just a freakin' jerk. :)
La Lydia, who is also a (relative) n00b, is someone who I have come to respect, and I would stand by this poster without fail.
You, Masshole, have done little but belittle.
Get over it.
You wouldn’t happen to know a Gilbert V Wilkes IV from Vancouvar BC would you?
Taimur Abdulwahab al-Abdaly = Arabic for “Sharpton?”
Islam is not a race.
Islam is a violent socio-political cult based off of nihilism and violence towards all who do not follow it, and especially women.
And yes, I can prove the point with quotes straight from the Quran.
I agree with all that. The “that’s racist” kid is usually, if not always, posted in sarcasm.
No, but I enjoy Mark Steyn. He’s Canadian, so I guess there’s a link there.
The dynamics between the more radical terror groups like Al Qaeda and the more “patient” Muslim brotherghood groups are interesting.
The Luton mosque seems to be more in the brotherhood camp. Patience. No terror. Let us conquer Europe in 50 years through immigration and birthrates.
IMHO their best and most rational strategy. Like picking a fruit when it’s ripe. But, some hotheads want to speed up the progress by violent jihad. Some times these groups seems to act in opposition... I.e. brotherhood types like Tariq Ramadan are upset at the “terrorists” because they might upset the long term plan - i.e. wake up the western people to the threat.
At other times Ramadan and other muslim brotherhood types seems to use the terrorists as a leverage in a “good cop, bad cop” manner. i.e. give in to our “reasonable” demands otherwise some hotheads we cannot control might act out...
Got to be hard for the western intel agencies to figure this all out. I hope they at least are working on it.
I think you are right.
They are increasingly forced to operate in isolated cells, forced to rely on bomb making information from internet sources etc.
Though as the saying goes. We have to be lucky every time, they have to be lucky once.
I agree with your posts.
I would also add, that a better discussion would probably be had by addressing the points at hand, and ignoring perceived sleights. Sleights are hard enough to discern in real-life, let alone the internet.
I know. I insulted half of the “internetz” last week :-P
Have a nice weekend.