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When is twins too many? ^ | Dec. 10, 2010 | Tom Blackwell

Posted on 12/13/2010 7:49:43 PM PST by Free ThinkerNY

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To: antceecee

“but when I went to emergency they found I had another still there! Joy!”

That is a great story! Of course sad that you lost a child, but amazing that you still had a child.

When we went in for my wife’s first ultrasound the gal doing it paused, and then said something like “So, um. Has your doctor commented about how your pregnancy is going?” My wife told her the generic things.

“Well. Um - congratulations - you’re having twins!” Dad (me) promptly found the chair as he was fainting!

Several months later getting mom checked out 10 weeks before the due date as she had been having contractions (and had also been on bed rest for 12 weeks already).

Everything was good until I reminded the doctor “Weren’t you going to check her cervic?”

After she got her gloves back on and got my wife back in the chair “Oh. She’s at a 7.” Dad proceeded to faint again!

Funny what some folks will go through to give their unborn children the best chance at life that they can. (Oh - two girls at 3 lbs 2 oz. Doing great now at age 13!)

41 posted on 12/13/2010 8:29:21 PM PST by 21twelve ( You can go from boom to bust, from dreams to a bowl of dust ... another lost generation.)
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To: al baby

Thanks dude... or dudette... whichever applies :)

42 posted on 12/13/2010 8:30:14 PM PST by NeverForgetBataan (To the German Commander: h..........................NUTS !)
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To: PGR88

“Why not just wait until the kids are 3 or 4 years old, and eliminate the one twin who is not as smart or as pretty?”


There is a doctor or some philosophy guy or something that was/is out of Princeton that believes in this. I think it is up to the age of 18 months or 2 years.

43 posted on 12/13/2010 8:31:11 PM PST by 21twelve ( You can go from boom to bust, from dreams to a bowl of dust ... another lost generation.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY; devolve; ntnychik; PhilDragoo; dixiechick2000; Lady Jag

[A “reduction”?]

Dear God, I’m speechless.
I had twin girls when my older daughter was several years old. My twins together weighed 8lbs and one had to stay in the hospital for a month.

It was hard, they were on a 4 hour feeding schedule and by the time you were finished with both, it was almost time to start over.

What would I have told one of them later in life if I HAD KILLED HER TWIN SISTER?

44 posted on 12/13/2010 8:32:41 PM PST by potlatch ( Life must be lived forward but can only be seen looking backward. - Soren Kierkegaard)
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Was it easy? NO. Hell, no! But I cannot imagine having ‘reduced’ that pregnancy or not having both of these fine young men with us today.

Children are always a gift. Sometimes we just don't see or understand the gift. But even if one wants to be cold and practical about the utility of having children - remember this when you are 80 years old, and you will thank God you have two strong, responsible 40 year old sons, to help you and to care for you in your dotage.

45 posted on 12/13/2010 8:33:21 PM PST by PGR88
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To: Free ThinkerNY
"We’re both career people. If we were going to have three children two years apart, someone else was going to be raising our kids. ... All of a sudden our lives as we know them and as we like to lead them, are not going to happen.”

Treating the news that she is carrying another son or daughter as though she was just given news that she was diagnosed with malignant, incurable cancer. What is the matter with people?

46 posted on 12/13/2010 8:35:34 PM PST by Republican Wildcat
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To: 21twelve; PGR88

Oh. The guy’s name is Peter Singer, an “ethicist”. He was/is on an Obama heathcare board.:


In a 1995 article in the London Spectator entitled “Killing Babies Isn’t Always Wrong,” Singer said “That day had to come,” states Singer, “when Copernicus proved that the earth is not at the center of the universe. It is ridiculous to pretend that the old ethics make sense when plainly they do not. The notion that human life is sacred just because it’s human is medieval.”

Peter Singer was appointed by Obama as part of his Health Care Team...

47 posted on 12/13/2010 8:41:04 PM PST by 21twelve ( You can go from boom to bust, from dreams to a bowl of dust ... another lost generation.)
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To: 21twelve

God bless you!!

48 posted on 12/13/2010 8:42:59 PM PST by constitutiongirl ("Nietzsche was stupid and abnormal."---Leo Tolstoy)
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To: mlizzy
Exactly - she thinks having children is for herself and not about the children. She didn't want three, so she just randomly selected to have one of them killed as she didn't want to bothered by it...and it didn't bother her. She's still the mother of twins, but she paid to have one of them killed. She is the mother of a dead baby, the sibling of her other children...and it didn't bother one bit to do it. What poor children the other two are that they have a mother who values her career more than them and would have been content to kill them just as she did their brother or sister if she thought they would have gotten in the way.

I just didn’t feel I would be able to care for (twins) in a way that I wanted to.

Apparently she doesn't care for them at all if she was fine with killing them without blinking an eye. How did she decide which of the twins was deserving of keeping his/her life and which one should die for her "career"?

I cannot relate to such a lack of basic decency.

49 posted on 12/13/2010 8:43:19 PM PST by Republican Wildcat
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To: Free ThinkerNY

These selfish pigs should just kill all three. They’re not fit to be raising children. What they need is a puppy.

50 posted on 12/13/2010 8:47:16 PM PST by freedomfiter2 (Brutal acts of commission and yawning acts of omission both strengthen the hand of the devil.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
I've heard of these "reductions" in the cases of multiples (usually 3 or more) but had no idea anyone ever did them in the case of twins. Unspeakable.

I did find the comments following the article interesting. Almost entirely negative.

51 posted on 12/13/2010 8:47:22 PM PST by susannah59
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To: 21twelve

Wonderful... you were twice blessed! My darlin’ darlin’ (as my hubbie calls her) is 25 and still a JOY to me and her Dad.

52 posted on 12/13/2010 8:48:50 PM PST by antceecee (Bless us Father.. have mercy on us and protect us from evil.)
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To: NeverForgetBataan

Let me go check

53 posted on 12/13/2010 8:52:29 PM PST by al baby (Hi Mom REMEMBER FREE REPUBLIC IN YOUR WILL. I DID)
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To: thecodont

If three children were too many, how did they decide to have a second pregnancy when they already had a toddler at home? By their logic, can someone dispose of a colicky baby because its even less sleep than they expected?

54 posted on 12/13/2010 8:54:10 PM PST by tbw2 (Freeper sci-fi - "Sirat: Through the Fires of Hell" - on
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I cried when I found out about my twins.....It was scary territory. How could I love and care for two babies at the same time? (Pregnancy hormones always did make me a little crazy). And no, this was not how we "planned" it to be.

But never in my wildest of wild thoughts would it ever have occurred to me that any paltry life "plan" would supercede what God had in store for me. And while I couldn't imagine what I was going to do, 16 years later I can't imagine what I would have done without them.

55 posted on 12/13/2010 8:55:31 PM PST by Mygirlsmom (On Jan 1, 2011 all tax paying Americans will discover the news that they are indeed "RICH")
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To: potlatch


You are not adhering to the Obamanese philosophy potlatch!


56 posted on 12/13/2010 9:13:23 PM PST by devolve (. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 0ponzi Version 9.8 . . . . . . . . . . . . . .)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

And to think I used to wince when a vet did this to horses...

57 posted on 12/13/2010 9:19:18 PM PST by Amberdawn
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To: Amberdawn

I can understand waiting to have kids until you have the financial resources to raise them, but then when you are finally blessed with abort just murder.
My wife worked placing unwanted babies with adoptive parents...we now know many of those unwanted babies as adults and cannot imagine that the mother would have aborted them in todays world. God have mercy on our country..and our souls.

58 posted on 12/13/2010 9:22:43 PM PST by Oldexpat
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To: Mygirlsmom

When I found out I laughed!! One might say hysterically. The reason for the sonogram was that we’d thought I had a miscarriage .. then when tests came back, a tubal (THAT was scary) .. going for blood tests every other day was just an emotional roller coaster. So I said to my long-practicing OB, why can’t I have a sonogram? He’d been practicing so long, it hadn’t occurred to him ... so off we went. And life has never been the same!

By the time my twins were 1.5 years old, we went to their oldest cousin’s wedding. A poignant reminder of how quickly they grow. So I did the at-home mom thing, soccer team mom, Brownie mom, (Dad did Cub and Boy Scouts)PTA prez .. you name it! Never missed a field trip .. and now that they are grown, I am so very grateful for every minute of it. So, we couldn’t go to Pizza Hut every Friday like all their friends, big deal. I walked them to the bus, and picked them up every day. Stuff like that you just can’t get back.

When our daughter got married a few months ago, a MAJOR honor came my way .. she wanted BOTH parents to walk her down the aisle. The bridal party was her 2 brothers. She has plenty of girlfriends, but when it came down to it, her closest friends are those 2 brothers. Someone tell me what that’s worth!

59 posted on 12/13/2010 9:27:53 PM PST by EDINVA (5H3)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
She soon discovered another option: Doctors could “reduce” the pregnancy from twins to a singleton through a little-known procedure that eliminates selected fetuses — and has become increasingly common in the past two decades amid a boom in the number of multiple pregnancies.

Somehow that is more palatable than if they had selectively decided to kill their one year old.

So, they make a decision based on emotional attachment rather than moral responsibility. Watch out lady... Your husband might someday be feeling less than emotionally attached to you.

60 posted on 12/13/2010 9:38:14 PM PST by Barnacle (God help us.)
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