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(Dead) Would-be robber IDd as Covington man
www.rockdalecitizen.com ^ | 12/14/10 | Alena Parker

Posted on 12/14/2010 5:02:05 AM PST by Bulldawg Fan

CONYERS,GA — A would-be robber who was shot and killed by his intended victim was a resident of Covington, according to the Rockdale County Sheriff’s Office.

No criminal charges will be filed against the man who fatally shot the suspect, identified as Yuhanna Abdulah Williams, 30, in an apparent robbery attempt Saturday in the parking lot of a Salem Road grocery store.

The victim was carrying a gun in his holster and shot Williams, one of two assailants, during the struggle that occurred about 8 p.m. Saturday outside the Ingles grocery store, located at 2455 Salem Road.

The Rockdale County Sheriff’s Office responded to the shooting after a deputy was flagged down by a group of people yelling that a person had been shot in the parking lot, according to RCSO reports released today.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: amish; merrychristmas
Yuhanna Abdulah Williams? Let's not blame the Amish any more, this guy may have been Morman or Southern Baptist or something....

Merry Christmas, the law abiding citizen made a joyful noise of the season and went home to his family. I love a heartwarming story at Christmas time.

1 posted on 12/14/2010 5:02:09 AM PST by Bulldawg Fan
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To: Bulldawg Fan

The cleansing of the gene pool continues. This one sounds like a two-fer—muslim and amish.


2 posted on 12/14/2010 5:04:18 AM PST by thethirddegree
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To: Bulldawg Fan

Bringing slaves to this country was a really bad idea.


3 posted on 12/14/2010 5:11:13 AM PST by ratsreek
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To: Bulldawg Fan

Bringing slaves to this country was a really bad idea.


4 posted on 12/14/2010 5:11:13 AM PST by ratsreek
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To: Bulldawg Fan

I would be interested in how long old Abdulah had been a resident of Covington.


5 posted on 12/14/2010 5:18:59 AM PST by doodad
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To: ratsreek

REALLY bad, probably the worst mistake we ever made.


6 posted on 12/14/2010 5:25:08 AM PST by Bulldawg Fan (Victory is the last thing leftists and their fellow Defeatists want.)
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To: Bulldawg Fan

Another attempted robbery attempt that went well.


7 posted on 12/14/2010 5:26:31 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (Socialists are to economics what circle squarers are to math; undaunted by reason or derision.)
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To: ratsreek
Bringing slaves to this country was a really bad idea.

It seems so in hindsight. Slavery is the original sin of America, it stains our Constitution and we are living with the consequences. We need to deal with it like adults. We should treat people as individuals and judge them by their deeds, not their skin color.

8 posted on 12/14/2010 5:30:21 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (Socialists are to economics what circle squarers are to math; undaunted by reason or derision.)
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To: Bulldawg Fan
I expect the deceased in this instance was probably more your garden-variety thug than your devout Muslim.

I have known African-American mothers in the South who named their children Muslim-sounding names while themselves knowing little or nothing about Islam.

It's also entirely possible that the deceased here was given a different name at birth and "converted" to Islam; it does frequently happen in prison. In that case, he was still probably about 90% garden-variety street thug.

In any case, my sympathies are entirely with the young man who was forced to defend himself. I am happy he had the means and ability to do so, but sorry he was forced to use them.

9 posted on 12/14/2010 5:45:03 AM PST by susannah59
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To: susannah59

The dead guy was 30 years old so no doubt he had spent time in prison where he may have taken a Muslim name. Regardless, the name is once again available for any takers.


10 posted on 12/14/2010 5:50:09 AM PST by Bulldawg Fan (Victory is the last thing leftists and their fellow Defeatists want.)
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To: Bulldawg Fan

Give this man an FR medal for courage and valor!


11 posted on 12/14/2010 5:56:10 AM PST by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: Bulldawg Fan

12 posted on 12/14/2010 5:57:47 AM PST by Mich Patriot
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

Their deeds are a reflection of their culture. Their culture is a choice.


13 posted on 12/14/2010 6:19:18 AM PST by ratsreek
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To: Bulldawg Fan

so no doubt he had spent time in prison where he may have taken a Muslim name.
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Kind of believe the people in this circumstance (converts etc) do the whole routine.

Remember, it wasn’t Kareem Abdul Alcindor....

Think the reasoning being they are/were dumping their ‘slave’ name such as Smith, Jones, Jefferson etc etc...


14 posted on 12/14/2010 6:26:46 AM PST by xrmusn ((6/98))
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets
Certainly slavery was a horrid institution, but if you believe that slavery has anything to do with the current state of blacks in America, you're of the type of mindset that can justify reparations.

I would proffer that the dysfunction in much of the black community is more the result of LBJ's great society than anything else.

15 posted on 12/14/2010 6:27:30 AM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: susannah59
I looked at the location on google maps. It is an upscale shopping center, well lit etc.

The robbers might have been watching an ATM machine and picked their victim that way. Otherwise, one would think they'd go after a female...grab the purse and run.

16 posted on 12/14/2010 6:33:09 AM PST by Huebolt (It's not over until there is not ONE DEMOCRAT HOLDING OFFICE ANYWHERE. Not even a dog catcher!)
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To: Bulldawg Fan; All

Good thing the victim didn’t live in New York. Right now he’d be facing two or more years in prison and a felony conviction. See:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2642385/posts


17 posted on 12/14/2010 6:35:14 AM PST by libstripper (uite eff)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

I think this is a more typical scenario for a civilian. When we are told that a head shot is difficult to make during a running gun battle with ranges measured in yards, like in a practical pistol match, it is true for cops and troops who might encounter this situation. But for us civilians, a street confrontation is more likely to be a mugging and the shot may be measured in inches not feet but certainly no more than a very few feet.
In that situation a head shot is not out of the question because the civilian is usually looking at one of two things, either the attackers eyes or his weapon. So you might as well shoot at what you are looking at, as you would during a period of extreme stress.
A LEO, when approaching a threat, will scan the area for other threats, look at the subjects hands and movements, clothes, etc. looking for weapons or contraband and be positioning himself for a possible violent encounter. PLUS, he has been trained to look for the front sight and aim at center of mass while distancing himself from the threat and looking for cover. AND his weapon will be readily available.
For a civilian, I am reminded of the movie, “Body Heat”, where the lover, upon hearing the young daughter enter the house, jumps naked out of the window and stands, momentarily, in front of the girl. When asked to describe the man, the LEO said the young girl seemed to think he was bald, had only one eye and was about 6 inches tall.
What attracts the attention of civilians is not the same as what a LEO will be looking at, we will be staring at the Bad Guys eyes or his great big gun or knife. So a head shot, at 3 feet, is not out of the question, while falling backwards, struggling and screaming. Body shots are made when the shot is taken from inside the pocket or purse because there is no time to get the gun out.
So I say to practice what you are going to do in a real world situation, shoot at his eyes, multiple times. I swing a 2 liter bottle on a string and shoot as it passes and I shoot at floating marshmallows in the rapids.


18 posted on 12/14/2010 6:35:45 AM PST by TxDas (This above all, to thine ownself be true.)
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To: ratsreek

Bringing slaves to this country was a really bad idea.
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That is kind of a broadbrush statement.

Are you suggesting the ‘Indentured Servants’ were any better off than slaves?
Probably the ‘only’ difference being that they could presumably get out of their ‘contract’ when it was fulfilled, which on occasion didn’t happen.
Granted it was easier for the Indentured Servants to blend in with the ‘regular folk’ if they should happen to escape.

Would kind of figure the ‘African Slaves’ were brought in when the ‘Irish, English etc ‘slave market’ dried up or was basically stamped down’.

Do a little research on ‘Indentured Servants’ and you will see where I am ‘coming from’.


19 posted on 12/14/2010 6:36:32 AM PST by xrmusn ((6/98))
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To: doodad

Guy from Covington keeps a hunting cabin here along the Yukon, good respectable guy; I’d figure Covington must be a good place to call home. Find it hard to believe Abdulah could call Covington home also.


20 posted on 12/14/2010 6:48:07 AM PST by Eska
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets
Score another point for civilization!
21 posted on 12/14/2010 6:48:39 AM PST by PATRIOT1876 (The only crimes that are 100% preventable are crimes committed by illegal aliens)
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To: Joe 6-pack

I said we need to deal with it like adults. I am vehemently opposed to reparations for any number of reasons. I think blacks in this country are pampered and indulged far too much. I agree, the Great Society was a disaster for America and for black America particularly.


22 posted on 12/14/2010 6:57:38 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (Socialists are to economics what circle squarers are to math; undaunted by reason or derision.)
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To: TxDas
Ambrose Bierce has an interesting account of D-Day, where one American second lieutenant, an Army Ranger, parachuted in before the invasion with (I believe) the 101st AB Division. Anyway, he managed to infiltrate a German battalion HQ area on the night after the landing. The battalion had been ordered to the beachhead the night of June 6. The battalion commander ordered his company commanders to a meeting at battalion HQ. The LT interrupts their meeting ordering them to surrender. They make a break for it. A guard station with an MG30 opens up on him. He dispatches the machine gun nest with two rounds, and then proceeds to kill the fleeing battalion commander, executive officer and all the company commanders with head shots from an M1. The entire battalion is decapitated on the night of the invasion and will not be available to meet it.

Not bad shooting at night and under fire. And, of course, he escaped. The surviving Germans must have thought there was a least a platoon out there.

23 posted on 12/14/2010 7:10:26 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (Socialists are to economics what circle squarers are to math; undaunted by reason or derision.)
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To: Bulldawg Fan

If we had only known they would be this much trouble
We would have picked that Damn cotton ourselves!


24 posted on 12/14/2010 7:21:12 AM PST by shoff (Cuomo is going to change the NY state motto from Excelsior to elixir (cause we bought it)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

Thanks, great story. However a short correction.
Ambrose Bierce is one of my favorite authors, especially the “Devil’s Dictionary”, and provides many great one liners. But he was a Civil War hero and was probably killed by Poncho Villa’s men in Vera Cruz in 1913. (Ambrose Gwinnett Bierce (June 24, 1842 – after 1913) was an American editorialist, journalist, short story writer, fabulist and satirist.)

I am sure you are referring to another great writer and patriot, Stephen E. Ambrose (1936-2002)who wrote, “The Band of Brothers” and other great books. His son wrote, “The Pacific” and is not 1/2 the writer his Dad was.

There are some other great stories about an officer that took his Colt Woodsman .22LR target pistol to Europe and his troops were stunned at how many Germans he whacked, presumably in the head, during house to house combat. They said he was a cool as if he was at the target range.

My favorite Bierce quote is, “Faith is belief without evidence spoken by one without knowledge of things without parallel.”


25 posted on 12/14/2010 7:50:39 AM PST by TxDas (This above all, to thine ownself be true.)
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To: TxDas

Duh: should be Stephen Ambrose. I’m a big Ambrose Bierce fan as well. I liked the haunting story “An Occurrence at Owl Creek Bridge”.


26 posted on 12/14/2010 8:23:16 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (Socialists are to economics what circle squarers are to math; undaunted by reason or derision.)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets
We should treat people as individuals and judge them by their deeds, not their skin color.

Amen! And wouldn't it be nice if they* would return the favor?

*They referring ONLY to those who hate us for not being them. They are no better than those of us who are of that mind set.

27 posted on 12/14/2010 9:20:10 AM PST by JimRed (Excising a cancer before it kills us waters the Tree of Liberty too! TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: shoff

We should have told the Northern slave traders to peddle their product elsewhere.


28 posted on 12/14/2010 9:30:33 AM PST by seemoAR
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To: JimRed
Treat them as they treat you. Judge them by their deeds, not the deeds of other people whom they may superficially resemble. For your own sake.
29 posted on 12/14/2010 9:33:18 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (Socialists are to economics what circle squarers are to math; undaunted by reason or derision.)
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To: Huebolt

I live here, its not an upscale shopping center, just an Ingles grocery store and a few eating places.

The whole area has seen a large influx of black residents in the past 15 years and with them came many of the problems they tried to leave.


30 posted on 12/14/2010 12:37:36 PM PST by Bulldawg Fan (Victory is the last thing leftists and their fellow Defeatists want.)
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To: seemoAR

Yes, we have been paying a steep price for their services ever since.


31 posted on 12/14/2010 12:40:52 PM PST by Bulldawg Fan (Victory is the last thing leftists and their fellow Defeatists want.)
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To: xrmusn

None of that had anything whatsoever to do with my point that you clearly missed. Here’s a hint: consider the ethnicity of our prison population.


32 posted on 12/14/2010 5:15:33 PM PST by ratsreek
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To: ratsreek

....my point that you clearly missed. Here’s a hint: consider the ethnicity of our prison population....
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I completely understand and ‘get’ your point.

What I am saying is that you implied all slaves posed a problem for the present.

I was merely pointing out that all slaves were not delivered to US from the African Continent.

I kind of got ‘carried away’ because too many people refuse to admit the indentured Irish etal were actually slaves.

Probably afraid ‘they’ will have to pay reparations and you know the Jackson/Sharpton crowd will not stand for that.


33 posted on 12/14/2010 9:08:50 PM PST by xrmusn ((6/98))
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To: xrmusn

I implied no such thing. Look, when we talk about slavery in this country, everyone knows whom we’re talking about. It ain’t the Irish, the Amish, or the Aztecs. It was significant and memorable because there was a hellish war fought over it that brought the death of some 600,000, a constitutional amendment, a presidential assassination, and ceaseless reparative legislation and supreme court precedent have evolved from it.

At any rate, my point was clearly NOT about slavery per se.


34 posted on 12/15/2010 12:29:56 AM PST by ratsreek
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To: ratsreek

Slavery, like nooses and racism is a “black thing”. No one else can be a slave, be hung, or be the object of “racism”.


35 posted on 12/15/2010 4:58:09 AM PST by seemoAR
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