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Why wouldn't the NHS save our child?
Daily Mail UK ^ | December 14, 2010

Posted on 12/14/2010 6:57:43 AM PST by rightwingintelligentsia

Ruby's parents raised £170,000 for lifesaving cancer treatment in America - then learnt the NHS could have treated her all along. Shockingly, it's a story being repeated across Britain...

To see Ruby Owen smiling in her parents’ loving embrace, you would never guess the ­gruelling sacrifices her family made to save the chubby three-year-old from a brain tumour that the NHS had given up trying to treat. Her father, Martin, had to abandon his ­thriving fire-alarm business to raise nearly £170,000 to take Ruby to the U.S. for specialist radiotherapy this summer. The family did everything from shaking tins outside football grounds to having sponsored chest waxes.

The Owens then uprooted from their home in the Midlands to spend three months in ­Indiana while Ruby received proton-therapy to destroy the tumour threatening her life.

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Last year, Ruby’s British doctors had told the family there was nothing more they could do for her. The good news is that since receiving the U.S. treatment, Ruby’s latest scan shows she is clear of cancer.

Ruby is just one of a number of cancer-stricken children who have been effectively abandoned by the NHS, leaving their parents to strive against the odds to raise huge sums to fund life-saving specialist care abroad.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: healthcare

1 posted on 12/14/2010 6:57:48 AM PST by rightwingintelligentsia
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To: rightwingintelligentsia
Ruby’s British doctors had told the family there was nothing more they could do for her.

Which was true, since they had no more money..................

2 posted on 12/14/2010 7:06:26 AM PST by Red Badger (Whenever these vermin call you an “idiot”, you can be sure that you are doing to something right.)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

Everyone who comes into this country from another country with socialized medicine should be required to sign a release of information so statistics can be verified.

“Nevertheless, children often miss out: ­parents say their youngsters get labelled as too ill to receive specialist care in clinical trials for fear of making the treatment’s success rates look too low, or the families simply live in the wrong postcode to get funds for treatment overseas.

Instead, these parents are told there is ­nothing more that the NHS can do.”

So, what ZIP CODE do you live in? This isn’t only a money game - its a numbers game. So the statistics are rigged. Anyone SHOCKED?


3 posted on 12/14/2010 7:10:24 AM PST by huldah1776
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

A big part ofthis debate is that the US was the safety valve for particularly Canadian but in this case UK government health care. But Obama and the Dims want to step in and fix that.


4 posted on 12/14/2010 7:10:59 AM PST by JLS (Democrats: People who won't even let you enjoy an unseasonably warm winter day.)
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To: Red Badger

They were lucky to get this treatment before Obamacare, (and perhaps Romneycare), kicks in.


5 posted on 12/14/2010 7:12:27 AM PST by barb-tex (What else did you expect from the likes of 0? BTW, What ever happened to Rhodesia?, Oh, yes, Zimbabw)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia
Why? Because when people give up their freedom in exchange for being “taken care of” they abdicate decision-making authority to others.

It's the difference between an animal living in the wild that has to depend on itself, or an animal in a zoo that is fed and watered but can be neutered or euthanized at will.

6 posted on 12/14/2010 7:12:41 AM PST by cvq3842
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To: JLS
A big part ofthis debate is that the US was the safety valve for particularly Canadian but in this case UK government health care. But Obama and the Dims want to step in and fix that.

Not to worry: if all else fails there are always Indian reservations.

7 posted on 12/14/2010 7:13:01 AM PST by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: huldah1776

And the left laughed at the notion of death panels. What’s this, if not a death panel in action?


8 posted on 12/14/2010 7:17:01 AM PST by Oberon (Big Brutha Be Watchin'.)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

After the US goes single payer, where will people go? Switzerland, maybe?

The Brits voted for this mess, over and over again. If you put the government in charge, this is what you are predictably going to get. Socialized medicine will deliver substandard care to the vast majority, but the small minority that requires extreme care will just be left to die.


9 posted on 12/14/2010 7:19:23 AM PST by Haiku Guy (What we've got here is ... failure to communicate.)
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To: barb-tex

Now, I believe it’s “IF” it kicks in................


10 posted on 12/14/2010 7:24:35 AM PST by Red Badger (Whenever these vermin call you an “idiot”, you can be sure that you are doing to something right.)
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To: Oberon
And the left laughed at the notion of death panels. What’s this, if not a death panel in action?

A glimpse into one possible future of The United Socialist States of Amerika under the 0bama Regime's vision ...

11 posted on 12/14/2010 7:35:44 AM PST by The Sons of Liberty (Psalm 109:8 Let his days be few and let another take his office. - Mene, Mene, Tekel, Upharsin)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

Yes, cutting-edge, “expensive” treatments will be rationed if not eliminated. But the other effect that I think the public is missing is that medicine will stagnate. You won’t see advancements in care.

Years ago, I read the history of pediatric cardiac congenital defect repairs. In the 1920s & 1930s, these kids were dying in the OR. Now, the holes in their heart are being repaired on an outpatient basis. In my last ICU job, I worked in a Transplant ICU where our small bowel recipients had a marginal survival rate. 6 years later, those patients are leading relatively normal lives & their rejection/complication rate has been halved! We have to remember that the more we do something, the better we get at doing it. If cancer patients (for example) aren’t receiving care, how does the dumbass pulic ever think there will be a cure? DUH!!!

I can’t stand all the ding dongs I meet who think we have a “right” to “free health care”. WAKE UP, DUMMIES!!! (not you FReepers, of course....I mean all the tools staring at MTV who run out & vote without a clue).


12 posted on 12/14/2010 8:01:21 AM PST by surroundedbyblue
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To: The Sons of Liberty
Under 14 and over 65, take an asprin and have some morphine.

There is no reason whatsoever why a state run system would insure an (expense). Now if you were in your 30's (reciept generating) and paying into the system with payroll tax, income tax, and not collecting social security, then you get treatment. They have not been too shy of showing us the age versus cost curve on healthcare.

13 posted on 12/14/2010 8:07:11 AM PST by blackdog
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To: The Sons of Liberty

Slaves to the plantation. It’s simple math. If you have a drain on the books, you cull it.


14 posted on 12/14/2010 8:09:26 AM PST by blackdog
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To: Haiku Guy

“After the US goes single payer, where will people go? Switzerland, maybe?”

I’m a nurse anesthetist. Many drs & nurses I know are conservatives. It’s my hope that we can all band together & start a private health system similar to ones found in countries like Australia. It would be tough & I don’t know how we would make it work, BUT that’s my hope. Single payer would be a disaster for everyone, not just professionally, but as potential consumers of care as well. We have a moral obligation, IMO, to try every means possible to circumvent the public option.


15 posted on 12/14/2010 8:10:40 AM PST by surroundedbyblue
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

Actually the move in Europe for elective surgery has been towards India itself. Remember the little mini-panic about the superbug a couple of people came back with? India could well develop quite a trade in surgery tourism, if they match USA standards of care.

I have heard that Costa Rica has gained some dental trade this way. I could see lots of US MDs setting up in places like Costa Rica for the future US medical tourist trade.


16 posted on 12/14/2010 8:18:20 AM PST by JLS (Democrats: People who won't even let you enjoy an unseasonably warm winter day.)
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To: JLS

Actually I was referring to “native American” reservations, which are a bit closer to home. If they can run gambling enterprises, why not medical facilities?


17 posted on 12/14/2010 8:48:20 AM PST by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: blackdog
Exactly! But I've got news for those who would sit on MY DEATH PANEL. -

"I'm coming, and Hell's coming with me!"

18 posted on 12/14/2010 11:03:11 AM PST by The Sons of Liberty (Psalm 109:8 Let his days be few and let another take his office. - Mene, Mene, Tekel, Upharsin)
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