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GOPíS CHANCES TO UNSEAT BOB CASEY? GOOD LUCK
Philadelphia Magazine ^ | 14 Dec 2010 | Chris Freind

Posted on 12/14/2010 3:26:01 PM PST by grace522

You would think that with Pennsylvania’s Republican roots, which have run especially deep over the last several decades, freshman Democratic senator Bob Casey would be vulnerable in 2012.

You would be wrong, and the reason is simple civics. Incumbents don’t lose unless they’re challenged by viable, first-tier candidates, as the Senate elections in Nevada and Alaska proved. And, as of now, there are none to challenge Casey. Whether that changes in the next year is anyone’s guess, but the mere fact that the GOP finds itself in this position speaks volumes about how it builds its “bench.” Translation: it doesn’t.

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Pennsylvania’s Republican power was on full display when Ronald Reagan chose three cabinet officials not just from the same state, but the same county! Montgomery County produced Drew Lewis (who fired the striking air traffic controllers), Alexander Haig, and Richard Schweiker. Since then, it’s been all downhill for the Montco GOP, with infighting and strife resulting in minority status in the state’s third largest county.

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TOPICS: Editorial; Politics/Elections; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: casey; corbett; pa2012; senate
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The PA GOP had a big win in Nov due primarily because of the Tea Party and other grassroots organizations. They are doing a terrible job building the party. The Tea Party cease fire on the PA GOP will only last so long.
1 posted on 12/14/2010 3:26:03 PM PST by grace522
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To: Tribune7

Let’s find a tea party candidate.


2 posted on 12/14/2010 3:31:16 PM PST by Temple Owl (Excelsior! Onward and upward.)
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To: grace522

I am thinking it won’t matter. I am thinking the Federal Mess is unfixable at this point and it will be up to 34 states to call a con-con.


3 posted on 12/14/2010 3:31:29 PM PST by screaminsunshine (Americanism vs Communism)
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To: grace522

Ex-Gov. Mark Schweiker should run.


4 posted on 12/14/2010 3:33:32 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Amber Lamps !"~~)
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To: grace522

2, 3, 4.....


5 posted on 12/14/2010 3:34:28 PM PST by HonestConservative (http://www.freedomradiorocks.com)
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To: grace522

Santorum


6 posted on 12/14/2010 3:39:50 PM PST by Renegade
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To: grace522

Weldon


7 posted on 12/14/2010 3:40:24 PM PST by Renegade
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To: grace522

Stupid article. The PA GOP doesn’t have a “bench” yet 12 of the 19 US representatives are Republicans, along with the vast majority of its state senators and a majority of its state house representatives. The PA GOP has been bad at registering new voters and that has turned Montgomery County competitive for the Dems where it used to be solid GOP country. But I’d bet that a good challenger will arise to challenge Casey.


8 posted on 12/14/2010 3:40:47 PM PST by Opinionated Blowhard
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To: screaminsunshine

Is it a fed mess or electorate mess? I would say its the later.


9 posted on 12/14/2010 3:41:09 PM PST by 556x45
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To: Renegade

hurl.


10 posted on 12/14/2010 3:44:45 PM PST by HonestConservative (http://www.freedomradiorocks.com)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

No big news that some MSMediot does not think any GOP candidates will be top shelf. What matters is what kind of year is it, who you nominate and how good a campaign they run. Casey was elected in 2006 a bad year for the GOP.

Heck Santorum might be able to beat him next go around.


11 posted on 12/14/2010 3:45:17 PM PST by JLS (Democrats: People who won't even let you enjoy an unseasonably warm winter day.)
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To: Opinionated Blowhard

I’ve got some ideas, but must keep my powder, and theirs, dry.


12 posted on 12/14/2010 3:45:58 PM PST by HonestConservative (http://www.freedomradiorocks.com)
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To: JLS

Santorum wants to be president and secondly he lost his own seat because of his support for Specter.

I doubt that he will be able to rise to either occassion.


13 posted on 12/14/2010 3:47:45 PM PST by HonestConservative (http://www.freedomradiorocks.com)
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To: screaminsunshine

Padding the tax bill with billions in ethanol subsidies and other special-interest giveaways was surely evidence that you are right. It will take a lot more than new faces and bright promises to fix this ungodly mess.


14 posted on 12/14/2010 3:50:02 PM PST by madprof98 ("moritur et ridet" - salvianus)
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To: JLS

Santorum jumped the shark. First with Specter and with his embrace of the execrable Slick Willard.


15 posted on 12/14/2010 3:52:53 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Amber Lamps !"~~)
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To: HonestConservative

PA is looking to clean house of Demorats . he has name recognition if nothing else . Weldon was “set up by W”(Able-Danger )and left out to dry .


16 posted on 12/14/2010 3:57:14 PM PST by Renegade
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To: madprof98

Former Gov. Mark Schweiker needs to run! I know the guy who runs the Schuylkill County Republicans-—where I live-— and he’s saying the same thing. He’d be our best bet.


17 posted on 12/14/2010 3:57:24 PM PST by bjcoop
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To: grace522

Glen Meakam


18 posted on 12/14/2010 3:58:10 PM PST by surroundedbyblue
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To: Renegade

Name recognition is not necessarily the most important quality. If you are catching that I am not a fan of Ricky’s, you’d be correct.


19 posted on 12/14/2010 4:02:17 PM PST by HonestConservative (http://www.freedomradiorocks.com)
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To: grace522

Casey, Bob Casey, I seem to recall the name. I am a PA resident. Do we have a senator by that name. hmmm going to have to check on that. You say his name is Casey /sarcasm


20 posted on 12/14/2010 4:16:38 PM PST by cork
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To: Temple Owl

“Let’s find a tea party candidate.”

Perhaps you wrote that in jest. It seems that the GOP tried that in Nevada. What did they get?


21 posted on 12/14/2010 4:19:24 PM PST by OldPossum
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To: OldPossum

Oh, yes, they also tried that in Alaska. How did that work out?


22 posted on 12/14/2010 4:20:19 PM PST by OldPossum
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To: screaminsunshine

“it will be up to 34 states to call a con-con.”

You don’t want a constitutional convention. You want a state’s convention where this question is voted on: Shall the federal government be abolished?

Yes or no?

A state’s convention solves big problems while a constitutional convention can only chip away at the big problems.


23 posted on 12/14/2010 4:20:19 PM PST by sergeantdave
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To: sergeantdave
No. The Federal Government shall be restrained. The Structure shall be destroyed and the Citizens shall be Sovereign again.
24 posted on 12/14/2010 4:22:21 PM PST by screaminsunshine (Americanism vs Communism)
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To: sergeantdave

On second thought what are you saying?


25 posted on 12/14/2010 4:25:14 PM PST by screaminsunshine (Americanism vs Communism)
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To: Owl_Eagle; brityank; Physicist; WhyisaTexasgirlinPA; GOPJ; abner; baseballmom; Mo1; Ciexyz; ...

ping


26 posted on 12/14/2010 4:33:23 PM PST by Tribune7 (The Democrat Party is not a political organization but a religious cult.)
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To: grace522

Santorum NO. Weldon NO. Schwieker Maybe. He would be pretty strong in SE Pa.

Bob Casey is a doofus. He is boring, dull, and impossible to listen to. He has one thing, exactly one thing, going for him his name. That’s IT.

A line of attack that would be effective would be to simply say: “His name shouldn’t matter. His support of Obama’s leftist policies are what matters. By any name he is wrong for PA.”


27 posted on 12/14/2010 4:33:52 PM PST by LeonardFMason
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To: grace522

If we get a candidate like Schweiker or someone strong in the Philly suburbs we have a shot. It has to be someone from the Mainline type suburbs who connects with the suburban Independent women. This will offset the votes in the City of Philly so not so much ahead from Philly and suburbs by time they count votes of rural Pennsylvania


28 posted on 12/14/2010 4:41:21 PM PST by GoMonster (GO)
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To: HonestConservative

Guess you’re right ! Who was Barack Hussain Obama before 2008? However, I will take any Pubbie over Casey! Being a PA resident, my vote will count in PA 2012 election.


29 posted on 12/14/2010 4:42:39 PM PST by Renegade
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To: Renegade

So will mine!


30 posted on 12/14/2010 4:44:40 PM PST by HonestConservative (http://www.freedomradiorocks.com)
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To: grace522

This is exactly the wrong thinking. Angle came very close to unseating Reid what hurt her in the end was his ground game, plus he was able to make a strong showing among Hispanics. I personally don’t doubt a good degree of funny business occurred in NV but that is something we have to face as reality. The important take away is that money and ads alone can’t counter what a superior ground game can produce. Sharron Angle for a so called “Fringe Candidate” performed better than McCain and she mopped the floor with Reid in their last Debate. I don’t think that is half bad myself. Winning is what matters but one does not produce ‘top tier candidates’ by magic. If we want to defeat Bob Casey we need to get started now.

The problem with the GOP is that they constantly look for a rich money laden blank slate candidate even though there is no evidence that such candidates lose any less handily. I think we have good examples of how to counter the media and run solid conservative campaigns even with ‘flawed’ candidates coming out of 2010. Marco Rubio, Pat Toomey, and Ron Johnson won even though they were considered Tea Party candidates. All hold fiscal and social views very much in line with Sharron Angle, Ken Buck, and Joe Miller. Rubio’s campaign in particular which I am very familiar with grew steadily with work from grass roots dissatisfaction with Charlie Crist from nothing to a power house. No one thought he had a chance in the beginning. He had little money and nascent support but he worked tirelessly and won people over without alienating them.

The key race I think should be looked out particularly closely is the FL Governor’s race. Rick Scott had more baggage than anyone and he was unabashedly conservative, he had taken on both the Clinton and Obama administration over health care and had faced an onslaught by the Clinton administration which led to his lose of his position at HCA a company he had built over allegations which were eventually settled over medicare billing irregularities. How did he win? One might say it was the money but one would be wrong. Meg Whitman spent 160 million and was trounced by an elderly Democrat retread and though Florida and California Democrats are much different the key difference with the Rick Scott race was a laser like focus on the issues and an uplifting simple conservative message in “let’s get to work”. Linda McMahon was another candidate who wasted a lot of money. Money makes a key difference but we need to get it through our heads that hard work and clear conservative message is how we win and with that we will not win every time but districts and states can be shifted. Look at Allen West who won in a district that has in the past had a Democrat advantage and voted for Gore, Kerry, and Obama.


31 posted on 12/14/2010 4:48:32 PM PST by Maelstorm (Better to keep your enemy in your sights than in your camp expecting him to guard your back.)
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To: GoMonster

First lets take care of business and get rid of Gleason as Republican chair.

This will give good talented brave men a shot that they will otherwise not have.


32 posted on 12/14/2010 4:48:43 PM PST by HonestConservative (http://www.freedomradiorocks.com)
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To: OldPossum

They actually tried it in many places this year and it occassionally worked.


33 posted on 12/14/2010 4:50:49 PM PST by HonestConservative (http://www.freedomradiorocks.com)
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To: grace522

btt


34 posted on 12/14/2010 5:05:57 PM PST by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: HonestConservative

Hi HC! I agree 100% w/you...little Ricky needs to stay in whatever think tank he is in...with the lid tightly secured.

might I throw my congresscritter, Tim Murphy, into the this thread’s fray. He is very conservative, pro-life, and prior to office, he was (and still is) a psychologist. And Casey always seems befuddled, confused, and grasping for reality. Perfect match up!


35 posted on 12/14/2010 5:07:10 PM PST by PennsylvaniaMom ('We are coming out of our trance, we are coming out of our nightmare...' <3Michele Bachmann)
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To: screaminsunshine

Simply noting the difference between a constitutional convention and a state’s convention.

A state’s convention back in 1783 established the federal government, and a state’s convention today can abolish that federal government.


36 posted on 12/14/2010 7:08:05 PM PST by sergeantdave
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To: grace522

Here are some names that are floating around as possibilities:

PA John Moran Businessman
PA Jake Corman State Sen.
PA Kim Ward State Sen.
PA Mark Schweiker Ex. Gov.
PA Charlie Dent U.S. Rep-PA-15


37 posted on 12/14/2010 7:27:44 PM PST by randita
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To: LeonardFMason

Exactly. Does Bob Casey do Townhall Meetings? Has he ever done one? I don’t think so and the reason is simple: He’s as dumb as a box of rocks. He makes Dan Onorato look like Mr. Charisma by comparison.


38 posted on 12/14/2010 7:45:56 PM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: LeonardFMason

Exactly. Does Bob Casey do Townhall Meetings? Has he ever done one? I don’t think so and the reason is simple: He’s as dumb as a box of rocks. He makes Dan Onorato look like Mr. Charisma by comparison.


39 posted on 12/14/2010 7:46:15 PM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: grace522

” Incumbents don’t lose unless they’re challenged by viable, first-tier candidates”

Oh really?

Then how did Casey beat Santorum?
And Sestak beat Specter?

Just another liberal ranting on and exposing his ignorance and wishful thinking.


40 posted on 12/14/2010 8:15:23 PM PST by oldbill
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To: randita
Jake Corman? I don't think so - he's my state senator, and too rino for me. He doesn't seem to understand that property rights are fundamental to our economic system. If I see him this year doing things like defunding DCNR-DEP, or at least restraining their regulatory ability to shut down business (and other uses of private property), then maybe I'll reconsider.
41 posted on 12/14/2010 9:04:41 PM PST by Kay Ludlow (Government actions ALWAYS have unintended consequences...)
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To: Opinionated Blowhard
"PA GOP has been bad at registering new voters and that has turned Montgomery County competitive for the Dems where it used to be solid GOP country."

We've also had some significant demographic changes in Montco. The population of upscale liberals has grown quite a bit in recent years. I think the Montco GOP has shed quite a bit of its complacency recently. It's not an easy county for us. Plenty of work to be done.

42 posted on 12/14/2010 9:06:13 PM PST by Think free or die
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To: Vigilanteman
"Does Bob Casey do Townhall Meetings? Has he ever done one? I don’t think so and the reason is simple: He’s as dumb as a box of rocks."

I had occasion to speak with Sen Casey while in DC at one of our 2009 protests. I found it rather disturbing. He repeated talking points and platitudes and would not engage in anything resembling conversation. To his credit, he can speak in complete sentences without using a teleprompter, but he doesn't come across as having any independent thoughts or forming conclusions based on any sort of analysis. He had nice shiny shoes and a nice suit though . . . he looked the part.

43 posted on 12/14/2010 9:12:04 PM PST by Think free or die
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To: grace522

Pro-lifers need to check out Casey’s “pro-life” record. Not so great for someone who claims to be pro-life.


44 posted on 12/14/2010 9:46:00 PM PST by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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To: oldbill
Actually, oldbill, Mr. Friend's position on most issues are conservative.

Like many writers he is given to sensationalize some issues and also tends to be too negative.

However, he is correct. Unseating Casey will not prove easy, as conservatives who voted for Santorum against Casey (despite their anger with him) warned, and will likely require a first tier candidate.

Unfortunately, the two examples you gave to disprove Mr. Friend's point, aren't persuasive.

Conservatives helped Casey beat Santorum. Had Casey ran as a pro-choicer instead of a pro-lifer, Santorum would in all probability, be in office today. Specter horribly weakened his own strength by his change of party and his challenger Sestak WAS a viable, first-tier candidate.

45 posted on 12/15/2010 6:08:39 AM PST by TAdams8591
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To: grace522
"The PA GOP had a big win in Nov due primarily because of the Tea Party and other grassroots organizations."

During a recent panel discussion, Tea Party organizers unanimously agreed, the Republican Party would have won without the Tea Party, but the win wouldn't have been as big, a fairer and more accurate assessment.

46 posted on 12/15/2010 6:13:23 AM PST by TAdams8591
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To: Sun

Casey’s vote FOR Obamacare, is one of the “blotches” on his pro-life record and one of the many negative consequences of conservative support for his candidacy over Santorum’s. It is unlikely, most of those conservatives, would ever admit to to their error.


47 posted on 12/15/2010 6:22:01 AM PST by TAdams8591
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To: Think free or die
I'm curious as to how you got an audience with Bob Casey, Jr. Was it one on one, or were you part of a group which was perceived as friendly by his handlers?

I notice that whenever he travels in the Commonwealth, his handlers are careful to ensure that he doesn't interact with average citizens, at least beyond the photo-ops and superficial pleasantries.

I'd be surprised if it was any different in DC. For all Specter's faults, I do give him credit for not being afraid of his constituents.

48 posted on 12/15/2010 8:44:26 AM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: TAdams8591
Toomey could not have won without the TEA Party support. The margin was a lot narrower than it should have been. In large part because the ass-hat GOP chair Gleason tried relentlessly to recruit a name candidate to run against Toomey and wrote him off in the beginning as too conservative to be electable.
49 posted on 12/15/2010 8:49:49 AM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Vigilanteman
The comment was a statement on the victory of the Republican Party in general. Without the Tea Party Movement, it would have been big, not as big, a general consensus among Tea Party organizers on a recent local panel, which is a more accurate statement.

Toomey may have been one of the losses incurred without the Tea Party and John Runyan, in NJ, may have been another.

Another point to consider regarding the power of the Tea Party, is most of the "Tea Party" candidates supported by most Tea Party groups across the country, lost in the primary. That should change as the movement becomes more politically mature.

It's important to avoid over or under-estimating the Tea Party influence, in order to set more realistic goals, and operate more effectively, IMHO.

50 posted on 12/15/2010 9:50:44 AM PST by TAdams8591
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