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One Republican, Unhappy With His Party's Position on Carbon, Prepares a New Agenda (RINO ALERT)
The New York Times ^ | 2010-12-15 | Evan Lehmann

Posted on 12/14/2010 11:27:15 PM PST by rabscuttle385

Sen. Lindsey Graham is concerned that the Republican Party faces political dangers by resisting efforts to reduce carbon dioxide and other air pollution. That assertion seems to challenge GOP campaigns this year, in which candidates often rejected the science behind climate change.

Graham, a Republican from South Carolina, is designing an agenda for next year featuring a clean energy standard for utilities, which rewards increased nuclear and renewable power alike. Similar ideas have failed because they tended to dilute incentives for wind and solar. But under an increasingly conservative Congress, many advocates see that outcome as a potential victory, under reduced expectations.

For Graham, it might mark another opportunity to insert himself in the center of the energy debate. He says it's urgent to begin a speedy national transition to clean technology. He points to jobs, jobs, jobs. He predicts new energy mandates can be tailored to help businesses compete with China and not harm them economically.

Politics is not far from the calculation, either. Graham shrugged off the notion that he might feel a conservative backlash in 2014, when he's up for re-election, by pushing forward with an agenda that counts clean air as a central objective.

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1 posted on 12/14/2010 11:27:22 PM PST by rabscuttle385
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2 posted on 12/14/2010 11:30:01 PM PST by rabscuttle385 (Live Free or Die)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

fyi


3 posted on 12/14/2010 11:32:38 PM PST by rabscuttle385 (Live Free or Die)
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To: rabscuttle385

This article can also be accessed if you copy and paste the entire address below into your web browser.
http://www.lvrj.com/opinion/real-shocker-110959024.html


4 posted on 12/14/2010 11:34:11 PM PST by Ev Reeman
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To: rabscuttle385

I read this yesterday. Published: December 14, 2010

FWIW - More important and pressing issues going on right now in the lameduck congress.


5 posted on 12/14/2010 11:34:21 PM PST by onyx (If you truly support Sarah Palin and want on her busy ping list, let me know!)
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To: rabscuttle385

6 posted on 12/14/2010 11:35:18 PM PST by Bratch
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To: rabscuttle385

boot Mr. Grahamnesty out of the RINO party before he takes it down with him


7 posted on 12/14/2010 11:35:56 PM PST by Enchante (12/10/10: Obama just abdicated his Presidency to Bill Clinton at the Tax Policy Press Conference!)
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To: rabscuttle385

Government by Regulations Instead of Laws and Treaties
by Phyllis Schlafly
December 3, 2010

Phyllis Schlafly
Republicans are assuming that Cap-and-trade (a.k.a. Cap-and-tax) is dead because Senator Majority Leader Harry Reid lacks the votes to bring up the House-passed bill and because this issue proved a loser in the 2010 House races. Like the famous Mark Twain saying, its death may be exaggerated.
The Senate’s environmentalism expert, Jim Inhofe (R-OK), warns us that the Obama Administration is trying to implement Cap-and-trade anyway by bureaucratic regulations. Directives issued by the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) are coming down the pike to increase energy costs and kill jobs.
Last May, the EPA issued what it called a tailoring rule to govern new power plants, oil refineries and factories that yearly emit 100,000 tons or more of carbon dioxide, methane, nitrous oxide, hydrofluorocarbons, perfluorocarbons, or sulfur hexafluoride. Inhofe reports that this tailoring rule will further reduce our manufacturing base and especially hurt the poor and elderly.
Inhofe predicts that the EPA standards planned for commercial and industrial boilers will cost 798,000 jobs. He also warns about the harmful effects on jobs caused by new rules on ozone emissions.
Since Obama moved into the White House, the EPA has proposed or finalized 29 major regulations and 172 major policy rules. The EPA is, for the first time, simultaneously toughening the regulations on all six major traditional pollutants such as ozone and sulfur dioxide.
Before Climategate exposed the politics behind the “science” of global warming, a 5-4 Supreme Court ordered the EPA to consider regulating emissions based on that unsubstantiated and now largely discredited theory.
Despite a long record of supporting Obama stimulus and spending legislation, the expected chair of the House Energy and Commerce Committee, Rep. Fred Upton (R-MI), says “we are not going to allow this administration to regulate what they have been unable to legislate.”
Opposition to EPA’s new rules is remarkably bipartisan. Seventeen Democrats signed a letter to EPA Director Lisa Jackson opposing the new rules.
Senator Joe Manchin (D-WV) was elected after running a TV ad showing himself firing a rifle to put a bullet through a copy of the cap-and-trade bill, and he promised to fight EPA attempts to curb greenhouse gas emissions from coal-fired power plants. He may have a difficult task because EPA Director Jackson is plotting to force mass retirements of the coal plants that provide half of U.S. electricity.
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EPA’s aggressive overregulation is forcing the electric industry to choose between continuing to operate while taking on major capital costs of complying with heavy new burdens, or closing down and building new plants that use more expensive sources such as natural gas. The public will surely end up paying higher electric rates (a.k.a. a big tax increase).
The ObamaCare law was deviously designed to take decision-making away from our elected representatives and give it to 15 “expert” members of the Obama-appointed Independent Payment Advisory Board. Many provisions of this law prohibit Congress from repealing or changing decisions of the “experts.”
The Obama Administration is using administrative regulations to implement what is known as Card Check, which even the Democratic Congress refuses to legislate. Obama’s recess appointee to the National Labor Relations Board, Craig Becker, has lined up a 3-to-2 Board majority to repeal the rule that requires secret ballots in unionization elections.
Currently, a secret ballot of workers is mandated in order to unionize a company. Becker’s new regulation will eliminate that workers’ right and make them subject to coercion and bullying to induce them to vote Yes on a card visible to union bosses.
The Obama Administration is also toying with a plan to substitute administrative regulations for treaties. Several years ago, the Council on Foreign Relations fingered the treaty provision of the U.S. Constitution as its most objectionable section, and now an ex-Clinton Administration State Department bureaucrat, James P. Rubin, has floated a New York Times op-ed suggesting that treaties are not “worth the trouble anymore” and we should substitute domestic regulations.
The globalists find it inconvenient that our Constitution requires a two-thirds Senate vote for treaty ratification. Horrors! That, they say, causes “international frustration” with America.
This frustration broke into print because there are not enough Senate votes to ratify the New START Treaty that Obama signed with Russia. Rubin’s solution is to ditch the ratification process and substitute executive agreements and pronouncements.
Rubin reminds us that after it became clear the Senate was not going to ratify a climate-change treaty, Obama just used EPA regulations, and so we can do likewise with arms-control treaties. Let’s just ignore the Constitution and let Obama bureaucrats make all important decisions.


8 posted on 12/14/2010 11:36:10 PM PST by Ev Reeman
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To: rabscuttle385

The issue is not “other pollution” boy that idiot Graham just finalized it for me. He is a certifiable kook worrying about “carbon” as a villain. It’s really enough to make your head explode. China is about to overtake us economically and these fools will let it become the number one carbon “polluter” because it’s a developing country and then we are supposed to pay them not to pollute! Graham is a dope and I hope you realize he is doing this as a front man for Gingrich, who was trying to get on the global warming bandwagon as of two years ago.


9 posted on 12/14/2010 11:37:32 PM PST by Williams (It's the policies, stupid.)
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To: Williams

Graham should be ashamed for buying into this carbon baloney.

Gingrich has fallen far from his days in Washington when he introduced the Contract with America.

Gingrich does not stand a chance of being elected president if he decides to run. He has become a RINO just like Graham.

As far as presidential prospects and timber are concerned, I also think Palin should not run either. She would do better what she has been doing since leaving the governorship, that is, stumping for true conservative candidates in locsl and national elections.

Marco Rubio would make an excellent choice as a vice presidential candidate.

Competitive GOP candidates for president include Paul Ryan, Mitch Daniels, Mike Huckabee, Jim Demint and Mitt Romney.


10 posted on 12/14/2010 11:48:02 PM PST by Ev Reeman
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To: rabscuttle385
He predicts new energy mandates can be tailored to help businesses compete with China and not harm them economically.

See liberals know full well the RHINOS are wolves dressed in sheep clothing. Isn't he the only remaining member in Congress that participated in the impeachment of bjClinton? There is some kind of mental disorder in people who view their purpose to 'create' NEW mandates and then claim to help compete with communists controlled economies... Surreal...

11 posted on 12/14/2010 11:50:52 PM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: rabscuttle385
Similar ideas have failed because they tended to dilute incentives for wind and solar

One nuclear reactor covering a few hundred acres generates as much power as 25 square MILES of windmills at current output levels.

Democrats and journalists are technical Luddites and don't grasp this obvious fact. What is inexcusable is that there are Republicans like Grahamnesty who still fall for this windmill/solar cell BS, all of which, BTW, are made in China.

12 posted on 12/15/2010 12:10:23 AM PST by oldbill
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To: rabscuttle385

Shut up Lindsay and crawl back underneath your rock.


13 posted on 12/15/2010 12:16:19 AM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: rabscuttle385

Screw you Lindsey. You made the list of dorks we are going to get rid of when your term comes up.


14 posted on 12/15/2010 12:32:54 AM PST by Vendome
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To: rabscuttle385
Sen. Lindsey Graham is concerned that the Republican Party faces political dangers by resisting efforts to reduce carbon dioxide...

Well now Little Lindsey, remember talking involves breathing and breathing releases carbon dioxide to the atmosphere. So, you'd be doing everyone a great favor if you'd just shut the %(^# up.

15 posted on 12/15/2010 12:46:47 AM PST by Barnacle (God help us.)
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To: rabscuttle385

Which of our overlords is paying him?


16 posted on 12/15/2010 12:55:08 AM PST by Stentor ( "All cults of personality begin as high drama and end as low comedy.")
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To: Ev Reeman

Now why would anybody want to do that?


17 posted on 12/15/2010 1:15:11 AM PST by ratsreek
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To: rabscuttle385

Long past due for congressional random drug screening and mental health evaluations.


18 posted on 12/15/2010 1:19:26 AM PST by SpaceBar
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To: rabscuttle385

The CO2 Scam is dead, Linseed. Get into the 21st Century before the first decade is over.


19 posted on 12/15/2010 1:23:04 AM PST by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/28/08 and why?)
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To: rabscuttle385

AIDS Dementia.


20 posted on 12/15/2010 1:42:02 AM PST by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: rabscuttle385
Sen. Lindsey Graham is concerned that the Republican Party faces political dangers by resisting efforts to reduce carbon dioxide and other air pollution.

Somebody should ask Senator Graham why he hates trees.

He seems intent on starving them.

21 posted on 12/15/2010 1:52:45 AM PST by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance on Parade)
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To: okie01

He must work for GE.


22 posted on 12/15/2010 1:54:02 AM PST by screaminsunshine (Americanism vs Communism)
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To: rabscuttle385

We can reduce the amount of carbon dioxide significantly if these two would stop breathing.


23 posted on 12/15/2010 2:02:39 AM PST by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners)
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To: Ev Reeman
“The Obama Administration is also toying with a plan to substitute administrative regulations for treaties. Several years ago”

In 1993 the Senate backed away from ratifying the UN'S radical Convention on Biological Diversity. Clinton used executive orders to and statutory powers already in place to implement the provisions of this treaty.

Do some research on Sustainable Development, Smart Growth and Agenda 21. All government policy today, all right from a treaty that the U.S. Senate would not even vote on.

24 posted on 12/15/2010 2:14:57 AM PST by Captain7seas (FIRE JANE LUBCHENCO FROM NOAA)
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To: rabscuttle385

I do not know why South Carolina puts up with this POS
RINO politician.
He is, without a doubt, about as low as they come.


25 posted on 12/15/2010 2:21:29 AM PST by AlexW
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To: rabscuttle385

Can we replace her, PLEASE?


26 posted on 12/15/2010 2:25:58 AM PST by Recovering_Democrat
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To: steelyourfaith; Ernest_at_the_Beach

ping


27 posted on 12/15/2010 3:54:15 AM PST by Beowulf
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28 posted on 12/15/2010 4:23:04 AM PST by mirkwood (Palin-Bolton 2012)
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To: rabscuttle385

LOL. The lower left caption should read: DEATH.

CO2 is the stuff of life, morons.


29 posted on 12/15/2010 4:33:12 AM PST by 1010RD (First Do No Harm)
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To: Beowulf; meyer; Normandy; Whenifhow; TenthAmendmentChampion; Clive; scripter; Darnright; WL-law; ...
Thanx Beowulf !

 


Beam me to Planet Gore !

30 posted on 12/15/2010 4:33:45 AM PST by steelyourfaith (ObamaCare Death Panels: a Final Solution to the looming Social Security crisis ?)
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To: Ev Reeman
"EPA’s aggressive overregulation is forcing the electric industry to choose between continuing to operate while taking on major capital costs of complying with heavy new burdens, or closing down and building new plants that use more expensive sources such as natural gas."

I think you will find that natural gas is not any longer a "more expensive source". Development of horizontal drilling and its benefit of making shale gas practical have changed the equation significantly. If a fossil fuel is used, natural gas is the best choice.

31 posted on 12/15/2010 4:37:46 AM PST by Wonder Warthog
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To: rabscuttle385

They make Forest Gump look like a genius.


32 posted on 12/15/2010 5:17:08 AM PST by A Strict Constructionist (Oligarchy...never vote for the Ivy League candidate.)
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To: rabscuttle385
Obviously Ms Lindsey, you have heavily invested in carbon credits...IDIOT!

Don't you realize there is a lot of shuttin up to be done? And you are just the one to do it.

33 posted on 12/15/2010 5:23:01 AM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate Republicans Freed the Slaves Month)
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To: Ev Reeman

Graham and Gingrich are so close o the forest they cannot see the trees.


34 posted on 12/15/2010 5:23:43 AM PST by chainsaw ( 'You know that your landing gear is up and locked when it takes full power to taxi to the terminal)
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To: rabscuttle385

Gramnisty is history in 12


35 posted on 12/15/2010 5:29:24 AM PST by G-Man 1 (-- get)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER
Yep, Lindsey,

36 posted on 12/15/2010 5:34:56 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a (de)humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: Ev Reeman

Great article by Phyllis Schlafly. It shows the problem with all those lovely agencies under the executive branch - EPA, FDA, DHS, Dept of Education, etc. If congress had any spine, they would cut all their funding by 90%!


37 posted on 12/15/2010 5:35:59 AM PST by algernonpj (He who pays the piper . . .)
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To: rabscuttle385
"Sen. Lindsey Graham is concerned that the Republican Party faces political dangers by resisting efforts to reduce carbon dioxide and other air pollution."

Graham is no RINO...I don't understand how he can be so concerned that the Republican Party faces political dangers for not buying into a shakedown socialistic agenda on worldwide scale?!



I tell ya', the Republican Party had best start focusing on what is best for United States of America and stop cowering to the left's corrupt and atheistic socialist intentions, or they will absolutely be facing political dangers...of extinction.



Look at this record and tell me where you see a RINO?

Graham OnTheIssues




38 posted on 12/15/2010 5:48:34 AM PST by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51. Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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To: jacknhoo

GOOBER and his pro amnesty stances taken with McLAME.
This CARBON Bull****

Looks like a RINO to me ... Or ..
we can just put him in the same category as RON PAUL...

Looks good on paper but they’re still KOOKS!!!


39 posted on 12/15/2010 6:51:52 AM PST by gwilhelm56 (Mr. Al NotSoSharp... your RACE CARD has been Declined...it's Over the LIMIT!!)
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To: Wonder Warthog

“I think you will find that natural gas is not any longer a “more expensive source”. Development of horizontal drilling and its benefit of making shale gas practical have changed the equation significantly. If a fossil fuel is used, natural gas is the best choice.”

The government is trying to regulate coal fired power plants out of business. If natural gas is cheaper then let the market decide. It is a matter of supply and demand. At current usage rates this country has several hundred years of coal that can be extracted economically from the ground.

Where I live we had an electric generation plant that our public utilities spent around a hundred million dollars trying to comply with EPA regulations. It was designed to burn garbage, wood chips, and other solid fuel. The EPA classified it as an incinerator not a power generation plant and pulled it’s license. The whole place was dismantled. I used to work next door to it. It burned the fuel at such a high temperature and had so many filters for particulate that you couldn’t even tell when it was running... there was no visible “polution” at all. They were turning garbage into electricity and the EPA shut them down.


40 posted on 12/15/2010 7:52:41 AM PST by fireman15 (Check your facts before making ignorant statements.)
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To: rabscuttle385
Here's a tip, Lindsey:
Start reducing your own carbon dioxide output by shutting up. Oh, yeah, and have a nice day.

You have a great day, rabs!

41 posted on 12/15/2010 7:57:37 AM PST by MyIndianNameIsSwimsWithSharks (There are no friends in politics. We are all sharks circling, waiting for blood in the water.)
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To: rabscuttle385

someone must have some very incriminating pictures of Gramnesty.


42 posted on 12/15/2010 8:40:07 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: fireman15
"The government is trying to regulate coal fired power plants out of business. If natural gas is cheaper then let the market decide. It is a matter of supply and demand. At current usage rates this country has several hundred years of coal that can be extracted economically from the ground."

Yes, but the market was originally distorted in the other direction when then-President Jimmy Carter forbad the use of natural gas to supply electricity. Back then, there was thought to be an approaching shortage of natural gas.

Natural gas plants are WAY cheaper, more reliable, cleaner, and more efficient than coal plants (nat. gas plants can be "combined cycle" gas-turbine/steam turbine units....coal is limited to steam-turbines).

With horizontal drilling, we probably have as much or more future available supply in natural gas as with coal. And a great deal of that supply is located in the Northeast.

On a "pure market" basis, coal simply can't compete.

Note....I've got no problem with coal as an energy source, either for electricity generation or, via. liquefaction, for vehicle fuels. Just pointing out the facts of the matter.

43 posted on 12/15/2010 8:40:54 AM PST by Wonder Warthog
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To: rabscuttle385
Gramham and his buddy mcCain need to go to reeducation Camp....and read this...FR Thread:

Little Ice Age And Expanding Arctic Ice -“Climate Forecasts Will Have To Be Thrown In The Dustbin”

44 posted on 12/15/2010 11:02:22 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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