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Russia's Race Riots: Are Police Turning a Blind Eye?
The Time ^ | Dec 15, 2010 | Simon Shuster

Posted on 12/15/2010 4:29:38 AM PST by cunning_fish

Around dusk on Dec. 11, Moscow's police chief, Vladimir Kolokoltsev, arrived at the scene of a race riot that his troops had failed to quell. Mobs of skinheads had savagely beaten dozens of passersby that afternoon in the streets and on the subway, leaving blood on the ground and swastikas scrawled on the walls across from the Kremlin gates. As Kolokoltsev stood there, thousands of rioters were still chanting racist slogans and throwing bottles and flares at his men. He decided it was time to negotiate. For a police force not known for being shy with its truncheons, this was an unprecedented move, and it has solidified the growing belief among the Russian public that the authorities are either unable or unwilling to stop the recent wave of violence being perpetrated by the country's nationalists. "It was basically admitting defeat," says Evgeny Valyaev, the shaven-headed leader of supremacist group Russky Obraz, whose members took part in Saturday's riots. "They shouldn't have provoked us. That was their mistake. So Kolokoltsev was forced to negotiate with a man in a black mask," he told TIME in an interview Monday.

(Excerpt) Read more at time.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events; Russia; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: europe; illegals; imigration; immigration; islam; russia

1 posted on 12/15/2010 4:29:42 AM PST by cunning_fish
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2 posted on 12/15/2010 4:56:42 AM PST by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: fishtank

Are the Russian nationalists mad at immigrants, or muzzies or Jews or everyone that is not born in Russia?

Do politics enter into this?

And last but not least, does the pic have something to do with the riots or is it a symbol of how they elite party on while the peons riot?


3 posted on 12/15/2010 5:08:30 AM PST by winodog
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To: cunning_fish

Race riots occur all around th eworld. But, its only news when whites do the beating.


4 posted on 12/15/2010 5:13:21 AM PST by Cowboy Bob (Obama has demonstrated to the world the failure of Affirmative Action)
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To: cunning_fish

Truncheons,bottles thrown,clean shaven, Moscow police chief incapable, Russian nationalists,(note capitalization on noun it didn’t happen here but it occurs (to)too frequently in comments).This report I take it is from Time magazine ? No wonder they’re going under.
What is this about ? Who is the group rioting and why ?


5 posted on 12/15/2010 5:28:27 AM PST by mosesdapoet ("To punish a province Let it be ruled by a professor " Frederick The Great paraphrased)
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To: winodog

The Russians are not hampered by political correctness.
They are very aware of the ethnicity of each other. Each group has their own targets.
Living under tyranny and poverty breeds jealousy and suspician...I’ve seen old ladies, in Moscow, sorting through the refuse thrown out from open air markets, looking for something to eat. “I better get there first!”
It hardens people.


6 posted on 12/15/2010 5:29:03 AM PST by WestwardHo (Whom the gods would destroy, they first drive mad.)
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To: cunning_fish

If the Soviet dictators do not squash this, then they want it to happen, and they want it to happen because it gives them the means to acquire greater control over the people.

Make no mistake, communism in the Soviet Union did not die in the early 90’s, as much as we want to Give President Reagan credit for that.

The Soviet Communists went underground, split up among 11 of the 12 iron-curtain states (the 12th being Georgia, and look what the neo-Soviets did to them), to rebuild their economy while making the US put its guard down.

They will wait until America is in a very weakened state and then they will team with China, India, and Brazil to destroy us.


7 posted on 12/15/2010 5:44:08 AM PST by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Prepare for survival.)
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To: cunning_fish
Does this preview the future of Europe? Ignore the leftist establishment labels of racist & radicals and concentrate on the key, "nationalists." From the article:
At Saturday's rally, and at several previous ones calling for justice in the Sviridov case, the soccer fans made up the bulk of the crowd yelling racist chants.

"These soccer movements are undergoing a crisis," says Pavel Zyryanov, a member of the Russian parliament's committee on youth policy. "They have become a place where nationalists and radicals can organize ."

The European leftist PC regime has similarly repressed the white male's instinct to defend their nation, society and family. Were yesterday's "soccer thugs" merely repressed white male patriots? Are those instincts, for years channeled into meaningless soccer rivalries and riots, finding their way back to a more natural real world espression?

Do PC (or Soviet) regimes leave this as the only avenue remaining for those traditional males of western society to defend themselves and their society from those who would destroy them?

Hopefully, as long as Americans find political voice and power in movements like the Tea Party, talk radio & the internet we can make the required difference before we have to organize similarly.

8 posted on 12/15/2010 6:24:37 AM PST by drpix
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By 2050, America will be Venezuela of the north - going no where. A 3rd world ghetto from coast to coast.

Same in Europe, England, Canada and Australia. All because people were scared of being called a word. And all because people were consumed with living in the moment. People didn’t realize babies were the new warfare method of the 21st century for conquering land and territory.

Russia, at least the western half of Russia will still be intact. Russia will live on. :-/

As will China, Japan and the emerging power, India.


9 posted on 12/15/2010 6:39:52 AM PST by MrInvisible
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To: cunning_fish

Poorly written article. The Russian skinheads are beating what ethnic groups? The story does not say whom except to allude to people from the Caucasus. What people exactly and why?


10 posted on 12/15/2010 7:31:10 AM PST by driftless2 (For long-term happiness, learn how to play the accordion.)
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To: winodog

In fact Russian ‘racism’ is very different.

You can easily see Jews and a lot of Asians among rioters.

Russian society is both race and gender blind.

It is mostly cultural. They don’t like brown muslim people since they don’t mix with major population and setting troubles on their Southern border.

In this particular reason there were a few of violent crimes committed by muslim immigrants attracted attention nationwide in Russia. Authorities has failed to investigate it out of PC reason so the riots happen.


11 posted on 12/15/2010 7:41:44 AM PST by cunning_fish
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To: driftless2

Chechens


12 posted on 12/15/2010 7:47:52 AM PST by cunning_fish
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To: MrInvisible

“...babies....the new warfare method...”
Very well stated, Mr. Invisible. Beats all our ‘tech’ weapons.


13 posted on 12/15/2010 7:48:15 AM PST by STYRO (Barack Obama is a Muslim terrorist.)
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To: cunning_fish
Russia is a multi-ethnic empire. I doubt that they Russian Slavs are targeting Finnish peoples, but what of the rest? Most are peoples the Russians occupy. And we are not dealing with rational nationalism. They are double fools to use a swastika, given the goals of the Nazis.

Rational Russian Nationalists would call for a smaller, less diverse Russia.
14 posted on 12/15/2010 11:34:06 AM PST by rmlew (You want change? Vote for the most conservative electable in your state or district.)
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To: cunning_fish; winodog; mosesdapoet; WestwardHo; Ghost of Philip Marlowe; drpix; MrInvisible; ...

Russians have long had racism and regionalism down to a fine art. The various ethnicities of the empire are ranked on a long chain of being with ethnic Russians placing themselves on top and (I think) Siberian Chukchis on the bottom but Chechens are the principal object of recent hatred for obvious reasons.

Also Slavic Russians rank in the regional pecking order is determined by their distance from Moscow although Moscow and St. Petersburg Russians have always been locked in bitter rivalry. We got a refresher in just how racist Russkies actually are when Cosby’s son was killed by a Ukranian immigrant in the nineties and his wife spouted off that the kid must have learned his racism in the states (this comment launched a storm of better-informed ripostes from those in the know).

Westwardho is right that people who live with a boot on their necks have an especial need to have someone else to look down on.


15 posted on 12/15/2010 12:55:00 PM PST by sinanju
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To: sinanju

But you know what? Every group in the world is that way. Heck, the same ideas apply in Japan with signs on shops forbidding non-Japanese. The same caste ideas apply in India and elsewhere.

Throughout the world, everyone is playing with a full deck of cards, but Europe/England/Russians are supposed to play by rules that handicap them?

Self-preservation is more important than following some burned out hippie ideas of multi-culti utopia.

I’ve got kids and I want a bug out plan in case the US becomes too unlivable. With the leaders in DC willing to legalize all of Mexico and do their trusted traveler program, how much of a future do my kids really have in a LaRaza controlled US?


16 posted on 12/15/2010 1:01:31 PM PST by MrInvisible
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I’ve got kids and I want a bug out plan in case the US becomes too unlivable. With the leaders in DC willing to legalize all of Mexico and do their trusted traveler program, how much of a future do my kids really have in a LaRaza controlled US?

This is what perplexes me about us Americans. The overwhelming percentage of American have childen and yet as their country deteriorates around them they seem to pay little to no attention to the political situation. As long as their favorite TV shows come on, the weekends are filled with watching football games and the like, they're happy.

I am old. Also, I have no children and every day I give thanks for that on a number of levels. I think it likely that I'll be checking out before TSHTF, so I really have no dog in this fight, yet I am concerned about this wonderful country and what will happen to it. I think every Freeper shares this concern.

17 posted on 12/15/2010 3:41:51 PM PST by OldPossum
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To: driftless2
The story does not say whom except to allude to people from the Caucasus. What people exactly and why?

Much like the British press unhelpfully talks about troubles with "Asians".

The Northern Caucasus region includes Chechnia, Ingushetia, and other Muslim areas.

18 posted on 12/15/2010 3:50:59 PM PST by PapaBear3625 ("It is only when we've lost everything, that we are free to do anything" -- Fight Club)
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To: MrInvisible
I’ve got kids and I want a bug out plan in case the US becomes too unlivable. With the leaders in DC willing to legalize all of Mexico and do their trusted traveler program, how much of a future do my kids really have in a LaRaza controlled US?

Where would you go? I think the best hope is if a bunch of States would break off and leave the libs on their own. If that would happen, I'd go with the breakway States. Alternately, there is a side of me that wonders if there is a "General James Mattoon Scott" out there.
19 posted on 12/15/2010 5:22:48 PM PST by Nowhere Man (General James Mattoon Scott, where are you when we need you? We need a regime change.)
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To: sinanju
Russians have long had racism and regionalism down to a fine art. The various ethnicities of the empire are ranked on a long chain of being with ethnic Russians placing themselves on top and (I think) Siberian Chukchis on the bottom but Chechens are the principal object of recent hatred for obvious reasons.

Uzbeks

20 posted on 12/15/2010 5:26:11 PM PST by dfwgator (Welcome to the Gator Nation Will Muschamp)
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To: Nowhere Man

Where would I go? Maybe a quaint village in Switzerland or Czech or Austria. Even if TSHTF in Europe, I think those areas will stay the same, at least for the most part.

But if states broke away, like Texas for instance, that’s where I’d definitely prefer to be.


21 posted on 12/15/2010 8:58:54 PM PST by MrInvisible
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To: MrInvisible
Where would I go? Maybe a quaint village in Switzerland or Czech or Austria. Even if TSHTF in Europe, I think those areas will stay the same, at least for the most part.

But if states broke away, like Texas for instance, that’s where I’d definitely prefer to be.


Poland might not be bad either. I was just curious on where some would run to if they had to bail out. Texas wouldn't be a bad place if there was a breakup.
22 posted on 12/17/2010 8:33:06 PM PST by Nowhere Man (General James Mattoon Scott, where are you when we need you? We need a regime change.)
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To: cunning_fish

Vague story, no details, racist skinheads...

No, probably a bunch of fed up white guys beating on muslims that had raped some girls in town. Probably a more accurate story line.


23 posted on 12/17/2010 8:36:52 PM PST by Professional
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