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Climate Change: It's the Sun, Stupid
American Thinker ^ | December 14, 2010 | Randall Hoven

Posted on 12/15/2010 6:52:31 AM PST by Puzzleman

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The science "consensus" has not only collapsed, it has raised the white flag and confessed that the skeptics were right all along. I think we can stick a fork in the climate change agenda. A few nuts will continue to wander the streets, mumbling to themselves and each other. But as a significant political agenda, I think it's over. I sure hope it is.

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: climate; nasa; sun
The author thinks the "global warming" mess is over. He says, and I agree, "I sure hope it is."
1 posted on 12/15/2010 6:52:36 AM PST by Puzzleman
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To: Puzzleman
Here's a simple question: If man is to blame for Global Warming, what caused the glaciers that formed The Great Lakes, Yosemite National Park, Lake Tahoe, Glacier National Park, etc. to melt?

In other words, which of those treasures would they like to see revert to its pre-Global Warming state?

2 posted on 12/15/2010 6:55:18 AM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: Puzzleman
As recent as 90,000 years ago, much of North America was under a mile of glacial ice.

If it wasn't for Global Warming, there'd be no such thing as Canada.

Wait a minute. That's not a very good argument.

3 posted on 12/15/2010 6:56:59 AM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: Puzzleman
Good comment there by “Eileen:”
Question for the Global Warming doomsayers: If the earth suddenly started cooling and we feared the onset of another ice age, do you think we could fend it off by driving our cars more and using more electricity in our homes? (Or in that case would the cooling somehow be a man-made crisis requiring massive government programs to interfere in our lives and transfer wealth to the “underprivileged.”)

4 posted on 12/15/2010 6:59:12 AM PST by cartan
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To: Puzzleman

When the Soviet Union collasped, the communists moved to the “environmental” movement as a vehicle to exert their control over people and re-distribute the wealth.

Owlgore has no fear his new beachfront home will be covered in water when the oceans rise.

A nice link in the article to NASA statement admitting the sun controls all weather patterns. Does anyone have a date when yhis was posted?

http://science.nasa.gov/earth-science/big-questions/what-are-the-primary-causes-of-the-earth-system-variability/


5 posted on 12/15/2010 7:01:37 AM PST by newfreep (Palin/DeMint 2012 - Bolton: Secy of State)
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To: Puzzleman
Sorry, but the article needs to be read in whole, not selectively edited as was done by the American Thinker, much to their discredit.

Here is a link to the article that the American Thinker lifted the quote from.

6 posted on 12/15/2010 7:01:37 AM PST by Michael.SF. (Current count of friends/family who have abandoned Obama: 11)
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To: Puzzleman; Whenifhow; scripter; SolitaryMan; mmanager; markomalley; Dr. Bogus Pachysandra; ...
 


Beam me to Planet Gore !

7 posted on 12/15/2010 7:03:26 AM PST by steelyourfaith (ObamaCare Death Panels: a Final Solution to the looming Social Security crisis ?)
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To: Puzzleman

I think it’s over, too. For once, the “instant gratification/no long term memory” aspect of the American public has come back to bite the global warming crowd in the rectum. They raised cries of alarm that we were all doomed...and then nothing happened. People became quickly bored or indifferent to their cries because...nothing happened. Oh, sure, the alarmists said all the doom was going to happen in the next 20-100 years, but the “Dancing with the Stars” mentality of Americans requires manifestation of predictions in a one-half hour TV episode, or at most within the confines of a regular TV season. It just didn’t happen.

And yes, I know weather is not climate. But I’ve been around long enough to know weather and climate cycles, and can remember the “doomsday” predictions of a generation ago. Back in the 1970’s, they were predicting the “coming Ice Age” and yes, it WAS cold back then. I remember -20 temperatures and people driving trucks up and down the river (which hasn’t happened since). Then it got warm...and you know what? It’s COLD now. It’s really cold and it’s here at least 3 weeks earlier than normal.

Whether the climate alarmists want to admit it, the warm period is over and we are heading back into a cold cycle. All driven by a 20 or 40 year solar cycle. Their window has closed, people are cold, and just plain don’t care any more.

And to Algore’s crowd all I can say is: Well boo frickety hoo.


8 posted on 12/15/2010 7:06:12 AM PST by henkster (A broken government does not merit full faith and credit.)
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To: newfreep
“When the Soviet Union collapsed, the communists moved to the “environmental” movement as a vehicle to exert their control over people and re-distribute the wealth.”

All the drama can be explained using this single sentence.

9 posted on 12/15/2010 7:12:48 AM PST by ryan71 (Dear spell check - No, I will not capitalize the "m" in moslem!)
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To: newfreep
“When the Soviet Union collapsed, the communists moved to the “environmental” movement as a vehicle to exert their control over people and re-distribute the wealth.”

All the drama can be explained using this single sentence.

10 posted on 12/15/2010 7:12:48 AM PST by ryan71 (Dear spell check - No, I will not capitalize the "m" in moslem!)
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To: Michael.SF.; newfreep

From the article at your links;

“”However, a new force for change has arisen: humans. After the industrial revolution, humans introduced increasing amounts of greenhouse gases into the atmosphere, and changed the surface of the landscape to an extent great enough to influence climate on local and global scales. By driving up carbon dioxide levels in the atmosphere (by about 30 percent), humans have increased its capacity to trap warmth near the surface.”


11 posted on 12/15/2010 7:18:39 AM PST by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: Puzzleman

Gore was testing American’ readiness for socialism with the global warming campaign. Socialism & lifestyle changes for a “one world” cause both require blind trust of politicians.


12 posted on 12/15/2010 7:23:40 AM PST by LurkedLongEnough
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To: Texas Eagle

Look up “Interglacial” - it’s cyclic.

Pray for GW.


13 posted on 12/15/2010 7:25:56 AM PST by NY.SS-Bar9 (Life is hardly more than a fraction of a second. Such a little time to prepare oneself for eternity!)
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To: Puzzleman

So what will the next global crisis be? They’ve done overpopulation, ice age, pollution, ozone, and AGW. So what’s next? They have to have something. You can’t get everyone to surrender their sovereignty without some crisis.

There are a few odd ball theories that never caught one, like electromagnetic wave killing us all, but I don’t think they can resurrect them.

We need to hang AGW around the Left/Greens neck for the next 50 years. Its not enough to defeat it. We need to use that defeat to castrate the Enviro-Leftists.


14 posted on 12/15/2010 7:26:04 AM PST by SampleMan (If all of the people currently oppressed shared a common geography, bullets would already be flying.)
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To: newfreep
When the Soviet Union collasped, the communists moved to the “environmental” movement as a vehicle to exert their control over people and re-distribute the wealth.

Before '89 actually. The KGB was fully engaged in promoting the Green Revolution during the 70's. If bore fruit for them as the core of the anti-nuke, anti-American, rallies in the 1980's.

After the USSR collapsed and the communists slid further into the green mantle. It was a way of disguising who they were.

15 posted on 12/15/2010 7:30:22 AM PST by SampleMan (If all of the people currently oppressed shared a common geography, bullets would already be flying.)
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To: Puzzleman


CANCUN



16 posted on 12/15/2010 7:31:56 AM PST by FrankR (The Evil Are Powerless If The Good Are Unafraid! - R. Reagan)
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To: Puzzleman

Communists, marxists, Maoists and assorted leftists can never be defeated. They will constantly reappear in some new form, just when you think you have them vanquished. If “climate change” is finally killed, those whose gravy train is threatened will find some new radical left agenda to rally behind, just to keep the money coming.


17 posted on 12/15/2010 7:37:39 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: Puzzleman
My tag...


18 posted on 12/15/2010 7:39:13 AM PST by WVKayaker (Faith makes the discords of the present become the harmonies of the future - Robert Collyer)
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

Thank you.


19 posted on 12/15/2010 7:41:24 AM PST by Michael.SF. (Current count of friends/family who have abandoned Obama: 11)
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To: SampleMan
So what will the next global crisis be?

Apparantly, it will be another greenhouse gas (or liquid, or solid). So-called DiHydrogen Oxide. As evidence, consider articles and youtubes from COP15 of delegates flocking to sign the petition to ban it.

20 posted on 12/15/2010 7:45:58 AM PST by C210N (0bama, Making the US safe for Global Marxism)
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To: Puzzleman

I’ll believe it is over when I see the cap and trade scams end and the closing of the “Carbon Offsets” markets.

As long as there is big money to be made, the Climate Change hoaxes and scams will be hard to kill.


21 posted on 12/15/2010 7:50:28 AM PST by Iron Munro (Those who claim you owe them a living are cannibals seeking to survive by consuming you.)
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To: Texas Eagle
As recent as 90,000 years ago, much of North America was under a mile of glacial ice. If it wasn't for Global Warming, there'd be no such thing as Canada. Wait a minute. That's not a very good argument.

LOL! There are glacial striations on the hills in JACKSBORO TEXAS!

I always point out that the dinosaurs would not have survived even one single winter. The earth is normally very, very cold and getting colder.

Build those 200 nuclear power plants real soon now...save Canada!

22 posted on 12/15/2010 8:00:45 AM PST by Huebolt (It's not over until there is not ONE DEMOCRAT HOLDING OFFICE ANYWHERE. Not even a dog catcher!)
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To: Iron Munro
I’ll believe it is over when I see the cap and trade scams end and the closing of the “Carbon Offsets” markets. As long as there is big money to be made, the Climate Change hoaxes and scams will be hard to kill.

BTW: Do not let the hoaxers hide behind "climate change". Call them what they were so PROUD to be called at the start:

GLOBAL WARMING ALARMISTS ! !

23 posted on 12/15/2010 8:09:15 AM PST by Huebolt (It's not over until there is not ONE DEMOCRAT HOLDING OFFICE ANYWHERE. Not even a dog catcher!)
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To: SampleMan
So what will the next global crisis be?

Maybe another global pandemic like the super deadly swine flu.

24 posted on 12/15/2010 8:39:33 AM PST by existtoexcel
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To: Texas Eagle

The continental glacier retreat started only 18,000 years ago.


25 posted on 12/15/2010 8:45:52 AM PST by BigBobber
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To: SampleMan
Before '89 actually.

It was a LONG time before that. Communo-fascists have always seen green regulation as a way to control people. The most destructive environmental treaty we have on the books was ratified in 1941. Lenin used the excuse of environmentalism to starve 22 million Kulaks in his works, "On Land" and "On Forests" in 1917.

26 posted on 12/15/2010 9:14:33 AM PST by Carry_Okie (The environment is too complex and too important to manage by central planning.)
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To: Puzzleman
*A few nuts will continue to wander the streets, mumbling to themselves and each other*

...and post vicious flaming comments about how anyone denys their science of insanity is crazy because, you know, all the really truly true scientists still believe in AGW and they have a consensus. It doesn't matter if 95% of the scientists finally agree that it's a hoax, the 5% that are expecting fat grants and are hoping to convince a few more politicians and sell off all their carbon credits before they lose the house.

I had a true believer say a couple days ago that 2010 was the hottest year ever! I wonder if he makes a pilgrimage every year to Man-Bear-Pig’s mansion to breathe the warm air coming from the exhaust of Gore's air conditioner as a religious act?

27 posted on 12/15/2010 10:15:29 AM PST by PATRIOT1876 (The only crimes that are 100% preventable are crimes committed by illegal aliens)
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To: cartan
*Question for the Global Warming doomsayers: If the earth suddenly started cooling and we feared the onset of another ice age, do you think we could fend it off by driving our cars more and using more electricity in our homes? (Or in that case would the cooling somehow be a man-made crisis requiring massive government programs to interfere in our lives and transfer wealth to the “underprivileged.”)*

The answer that they would choose is whatever gives the government the most control over people's lives is always the best answer

28 posted on 12/15/2010 10:17:17 AM PST by PATRIOT1876 (The only crimes that are 100% preventable are crimes committed by illegal aliens)
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To: SampleMan
SampleMan said: "So what will the next global crisis be?"

How about energy and food shortages requiring government rationing? We can't have the rich people eating all the food and burning all the oil.

29 posted on 12/15/2010 10:22:17 AM PST by William Tell
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