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Jerry Brown: California Budget Is "Much Worse Than I Thought -- We've Been Living In Fantasy Land"
Business Insider ^ | 12/15/2010 | Gus Lubin

Posted on 12/15/2010 7:51:18 AM PST by SeekAndFind

You know it's a bad sign when the outgoing California governor announces a fiscal emergency and everyone ignores him.

Now incoming governor Jerry Brown has realized how screwed the state is and he's announcing his own budget emergency, according to the LAT.

He said last night: "I'm going to try to get the budget agreements done within about 60 days. I don't think we have a lot of time to waste... It will be a very tough budget, but it will be transparent... We've been living in fantasy land. It is much worse than I thought. I'm shocked."

Hear that, last year's $20 billion budget cuts amounted to living in fantasy land.

Brown implied he would apply major cuts to the education system and other programs. He also refused to rule out new taxes. And it's got to add up to at least $29 billion in cuts.

(Excerpt) Read more at businessinsider.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: broke; budget; ca; cabudget; california; debt; deficit; jerrybrown; kalifornian; moonbeam; pork; spending
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1 posted on 12/15/2010 7:51:27 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Couple-a tokes and ole Jerry will take care of the problem...not to worry


2 posted on 12/15/2010 7:52:54 AM PST by choctaw man (Good ole Andrew Jackson, or You're the Reason God Made Oklahoma...)
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To: SeekAndFind
We've been living in fantasy land

Shazzam! You mean we really gotta pay for all this stuff?

3 posted on 12/15/2010 7:53:02 AM PST by Thermalseeker (If I print money it's counterfeiting. If the Fed prints money it's quantitative easing?)
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To: SeekAndFind

A tad slow on the uptake,aren’t we,Jerry???


4 posted on 12/15/2010 7:53:02 AM PST by gimme1ibertee ("In a time of universal deceit,telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act"-George Orwell)
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To: SeekAndFind
We've Been Living In Fantasy Land

Hey Gov. Moonbeam, how else do you think you were elected?

5 posted on 12/15/2010 7:53:03 AM PST by The Sons of Liberty (Psalm 109:8 Let his days be few and let another take his office. - Mene, Mene, Tekel, Upharsin)
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To: SeekAndFind

Also, See here :

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-1215-brown-education-20101215,0,4915210.story

TITLE : Brown wants to fast-track budget agreement within 60 days

EXCERPT :

At a forum in L.A., the incoming governor says the fiscal mess is ‘much worse’ than he thought; he does not say whether his plan would contain only spending cuts or include new taxes.


6 posted on 12/15/2010 7:53:10 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Don’t worry! Only the evil rich people will pay the increased taxes! /s


7 posted on 12/15/2010 7:54:19 AM PST by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: SeekAndFind
I guess he wasn't paying attention.

What is it with the Democrats? They run for office saying "This place is a mess! Get me in there! I can fix it!" and when they get in there they say "Whoa! This is too much. I can't do this."

Obama is the poster boy for this, but he's not alone.

The bottomline is that government intrusion is a bottomless pit of trouble. The only way to "fix" it is to do a whole lot less. But they try to fix the hole by digging deeper.

8 posted on 12/15/2010 7:54:38 AM PST by ClearCase_guy
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To: SeekAndFind

Well, at least he has the cut spending part right.

Ending entitlement programs for illegal immigrants and closing the border will also do wonders. As far as education cuts go, getting the illegal aliens out of the system is gonna have to be the first thing to get the axe. Sorry illegals, the gravy train is over...

Think Jerry has the stones to do that??

Me either.


9 posted on 12/15/2010 7:54:38 AM PST by Danae (Anail nathrach, orth' bhais's bethad, do chel denmha)
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To: SeekAndFind

ARNOLD!!!!! What the heck have you done for eight years? I thought he was going to be really good when he first started and then just petered out very quickly.


10 posted on 12/15/2010 7:54:50 AM PST by napscoordinator
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To: SeekAndFind

Yeah, Moonbeam, millions of ordinary Americans who, unlike you, have their heads screwed on, have known this for years. We’ve been keeping it a secret just so we could see your reaction when you figured it out. Pffft.


11 posted on 12/15/2010 7:55:00 AM PST by Steely Tom (Obama goes on long after the thrill of Obama is gone)
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To: SeekAndFind

He may have a tough time getting bailed out by the new congress....


12 posted on 12/15/2010 7:55:55 AM PST by screaminsunshine (Americanism vs Communism)
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To: SeekAndFind
LOL, when winning is losing. All those glorious progressive causes to spend money on....and not a cent to do it, LOL!

Mike

13 posted on 12/15/2010 7:56:30 AM PST by MichaelP (It's the end of the world as they know it, and I'm so glad!)
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14 posted on 12/15/2010 7:56:40 AM PST by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians)
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To: pnh102

RE: Only the evil rich people will pay the increased taxes! /s

I fully expect California to file for bankrupcy in the near future.

They will then come to Washington DC begging for a bailout to prevent an EU-like implosion (remember, California’s economy is much bigger than Greece or Ireland ).

In which case EVERYONE PAYS !! (That means tax payers of other states ).


15 posted on 12/15/2010 7:56:48 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: napscoordinator

Arnold ran as a conservative and governed as a liberal ... that’s what happened.


16 posted on 12/15/2010 7:57:06 AM PST by Jackson57
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To: SeekAndFind

It’s your problem now, Jerry.
Your party did this.
You must now either act like an adult and solve it in a serious way or continue to kick the can down the road, only the end of the road is a cliff..................


17 posted on 12/15/2010 7:57:14 AM PST by Red Badger (Whenever these vermin call you an “idiot”, you can be sure that you are doing to something right.)
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To: SeekAndFind

how much are all them illegal immagrants costing ya jerry?


18 posted on 12/15/2010 7:57:17 AM PST by camle (keep an open mind and someone will fill it full of something for you)
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To: SeekAndFind
Sherlock
19 posted on 12/15/2010 7:58:36 AM PST by verga (I am not an apologist, I just play one on Television)
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To: SeekAndFind

Pure BS.

Even I hate the budget forecasts for the State and knew how awful it is.

At some point, we have to realize that Democrats are liars and thieves. ALL OF THEM! The ones who you think are OK, do not call out the criminals, so they are just as guilty.


20 posted on 12/15/2010 7:58:56 AM PST by whitedog57
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To: SeekAndFind

Woah, there is gambling in this casino!


21 posted on 12/15/2010 7:59:09 AM PST by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: SeekAndFind

police, fire and scrool unions and their salaries and pensions

have decimated the state.


22 posted on 12/15/2010 7:59:24 AM PST by ken21 (who runs the gop?)
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To: napscoordinator

RE: ARNOLD!!!!! What the heck have you done for eight years?

When Gray Davis was recalled and several people came out to run for California governor, I thought that the one with the best policy proposals was from (now Congressman) Tom McClintock.

Unfortunately, the Governator’s star power overwhelmed McClintock. The Golden State (no more ) has suffered the consequences ever since.


23 posted on 12/15/2010 7:59:34 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind
Fantasy Land...All I can say is..NO FRIGGIN KIDDING!!!!

Those of us stuck here have been saying this for years. Does anyone expect anything different when this state has been run by Dems for years??. This should be fun to watch, damn shame I'll have to go through it.
24 posted on 12/15/2010 7:59:57 AM PST by glaseatr (Father of a Marine, Uncle of SGT Adam Estep. A Co. 2/5 Cav. KIA Thurs April 29, 2004 Baghdad Iraq)
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To: SeekAndFind

LIAR


25 posted on 12/15/2010 8:00:14 AM PST by boomop1
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To: choctaw man
Couple-a tokes and ole Jerry will take care of the problem...not to worry

In fact, Moonbeam's unedited quote was, "We've been living in fantasy land. It is much worse than I thought. I'm shocked. Dude."

26 posted on 12/15/2010 8:00:18 AM PST by Zakeet (Always trust in the five G's: God, Gold, Guns, Grub, and the Government screwing up)
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To: whitedog57

I meant, I HAVE the budget forecasts. If I knew how to post Excel spreadsheets, I would.


27 posted on 12/15/2010 8:00:32 AM PST by whitedog57
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To: napscoordinator

Arnold’s proposals were voted down by the stupid people who bought the union ads, that’s when he folded and went along with the dems.


28 posted on 12/15/2010 8:00:48 AM PST by psjones (u)
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To: SeekAndFind

Good grief- where the hell has he been living for the last eight years? I hope for the people of California he’s developed some brass over the years.


29 posted on 12/15/2010 8:00:54 AM PST by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: Danae

Some conservative pundits thought Jerry Brown was the only one capable of fixing California. The Democrat legislature wouldn’t have cooperated with Meg Whitman, but Jerry can work the party from within. It sounds plausible, but I’m not holding my breath. If Jerry can reign in California so that the rest of us don’t have to bail it out, more power to him.


30 posted on 12/15/2010 8:01:18 AM PST by CitizenUSA (Consider me a "Domestic Extremist" for believing, "Land of the Free, Home of the Brave!")
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To: napscoordinator

His election was all about his fame and name. People bought into the Terminator and thought he was going to solve CA’s problems, he had no experience or background. He was not a Reagan. who gave thoughtful conservative answers to questions. He was Ah-nold, the actor.
Besides that...he’s married to a Kennedy.


31 posted on 12/15/2010 8:01:34 AM PST by kalee (The offences we give, we write in the dust; Those we take, we engrave in marble. J Huett 1658)
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To: whitedog57

RE: Even I hate the budget forecasts for the State and knew how awful it is.

BTW, how did the economy and budget of OAKLAND ( Jerry Brown’s city ) do when he was Mayor ?

The policies put in place in Oakland could be a precursor of what California expects under Brown.


32 posted on 12/15/2010 8:01:47 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

He will install an “exit tax.” If ya wanna get out, ya have to pay!


33 posted on 12/15/2010 8:02:01 AM PST by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: SeekAndFind
I fully expect California to file for bankrupcy in the near future.

A State can not file under Chapter 9.

34 posted on 12/15/2010 8:02:27 AM PST by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Pigs, pigs flying outside my window.


35 posted on 12/15/2010 8:02:40 AM PST by Free Vulcan (The battle isn't over. Hold their feet to the fire.)
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To: CitizenUSA

RE: If Jerry can reign in California so that the rest of us don’t have to bail it out, more power to him.

How did he do as mayor of Oakland?


36 posted on 12/15/2010 8:02:40 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind
"Much Worse Than I Thought -- We've Been Living In Fantasy Land"

And Jerry's the Queen of Hearts.

Now, CA taxpayer, how would you like to have your head hacked off?

37 posted on 12/15/2010 8:03:09 AM PST by skeeter
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RE: A State can not file under Chapter 9.

What about DEFAULTING on their debts and then begging the rest of the 49 states to rescue them?


38 posted on 12/15/2010 8:03:41 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Yeah, Jerry. We’re so far beyond hosed, we’ve decided to look to you to get back to hosed. We can’t even catch a bus back to hosed.


39 posted on 12/15/2010 8:04:30 AM PST by Attention Surplus Disorder ("Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit smoking" - Barack Hussein Obama)
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

RE: He will install an “exit tax.” If ya wanna get out, ya have to pay!

FROM HOTEL CALIFORNIA : “You can check out anytime you like, but YOU CAN NEVER LEAVE” ( air guitar ...)


40 posted on 12/15/2010 8:04:58 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: Free Vulcan

Yes, but those pigs are just flying by on the way to DC where they will demand more food from our troughs.


41 posted on 12/15/2010 8:05:17 AM PST by kalee (The offences we give, we write in the dust; Those we take, we engrave in marble. J Huett 1658)
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Unfortunately, the Governator’s star power overwhelmed McClintock.

Even the FR knitting club went for Arnold. I still remember them chuckling about McClintock's crazy eye.

Not this site's proudest moment.

42 posted on 12/15/2010 8:06:46 AM PST by skeeter
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To: Danae
Ending entitlement programs for illegal immigrants and closing the border will also do wonders. As far as education cuts go, getting the illegal aliens out of the system is gonna have to be the first thing to get the axe. Sorry illegals, the gravy train is over...

A state report said last week that California graduates 55,000 illegals a year from high school.
So lets do the math.. 55,000 x $7,000 per year x 12 grades = $4.62 Billion a year on educating children that are in this state illegally. Not bad.
43 posted on 12/15/2010 8:07:06 AM PST by glaseatr (Father of a Marine, Uncle of SGT Adam Estep. A Co. 2/5 Cav. KIA Thurs April 29, 2004 Baghdad Iraq)
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To: Zakeet
We've been living in fantasy land. It is much worse than I thought. I'm shocked. Dude."


44 posted on 12/15/2010 8:07:09 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: Jackson57

Arnold NEVER ran as a conservative. Never. He made it crystal clear he was a social liberal.


45 posted on 12/15/2010 8:09:19 AM PST by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (TSA apologists deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. END the TSA.)
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To: whitedog57
At some point, we have to realize that Democrats are liars and thieves.

At some point, we have to realize that all Democrats and most Republicans are liars and thieves.

There, that's fixed......

46 posted on 12/15/2010 8:12:20 AM PST by Thermalseeker (If I print money it's counterfeiting. If the Fed prints money it's quantitative easing?)
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To: glaseatr
For YEARS our state deficit roughly equalled the amount being spent on illegal immigrants.

But watch - they'll attempt to balance the budget by lawing off police & firemen & closing libraries.

Illegals will come out of any budget fight completely unscathed.

47 posted on 12/15/2010 8:12:30 AM PST by skeeter
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To: SeekAndFind

“California: Jerry Brown Is “Much Worse Than We Thought — We’ve Been Living In Fantasy Land”

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

There, fixed that.


48 posted on 12/15/2010 8:14:26 AM PST by dagogo redux (A whiff of primitive spirits in the air, harbingers of an impending descent into the feral.)
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To: psjones
Arnold’s proposals were voted down by the stupid people who bought the union ads, that’s when he folded and went along with the dems.

Arnold didn't fold. He was touting his big-spending enviro-whacko agenda before he was even elected
(if you read the fine print of his policy proposals as opposed to the Hollywood headlines.)

And his proposals wouldn't have done anything to reduce spending or curb the deficit.
They were a fraud just like he is.

49 posted on 12/15/2010 8:14:48 AM PST by calcowgirl (“Controlling carbon is a bureaucrat’s dream. If you control carbon, you control life” —Lindzen)
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To: SeekAndFind

State Legislature: “What a surprise this is. We had no idea. No one warned us.” /s


50 posted on 12/15/2010 8:16:24 AM PST by Joan Kerrey
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