Skip to comments.Republican Tax Deal Proves They Haven't Learned Anything
Posted on 12/16/2010 6:06:07 AM PST by IbJensen
Nothing changes so much as it stays the same. The Democrats continue to be relentless in their determination to destroy this country, and Republicans, despite just coming off an historic electoral victory nationwide, still dont get it.
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It would be impossible to imagine under normal circumstances that Democrats in Congress, having gone through what they have for the past two years, do not yet have their facts straight. But nothing changes so much as it stays the same they still are mired in the rhetoric of the past, and apparently are determined to remain there.
Following the Republican deal with President Obama on the expiring Bush tax cuts, Socialist Senator Bernie Sanders (the only Democrat politician honest enough to identify his true political ideology) said:
Republican colleagues want huge tax breaks for the richest people in this country, but the reality is that the top one percent already today owns more wealth than the bottom 90 percent," he said. "How much more do they want? When is enough enough? You want it all?
Just for the record, lets put the facts on the table. I hate having to do this! The following facts should be burned into the consciousness of every single Republican in Congress by nowand elsewhere for that matter (forget the Democrats; theyve never been troubled by facts). Republicans should be smashing the airwaves with these facts. Yet we rarely even hear them from the supposedly smart ones. This is the absurd reality of politics in the 21st century, so here, once again, are the facts:
1. Nobody, but nobody is getting a tax cut by extending current law. We are simply maintaining the current tax structure. It gets us nothing and costs us nothing. Get that through your head because Obama has referred to tax cuts, Republicans have referred to tax cuts, and Sanders, cited above, has referred to tax cuts, as have many other Democrats. How is it that Republicans so easily fall into the Democrats lexicon trap? Nobody is getting a tax cut by extending Bush-era tax law! 2. Those of us who pay taxes already pay way too much. The embarrassingly mindless, simpering idiot we have for a Vice President, Mr. F-you Biden, demanded that the rich be patriotic be part of the deal. Democrats say so many stupid things, if Republicans just capitalized on one-tenth of them there would not be a Democrat in office. But Republicans still dont get it. So here it is. Pay attention!
* The top 1 percent of income earners pay about 40 percent of all income taxes. That is almost half of all income taxes collected in the US, Mr. Biden, you plagiarizing, knuckle-dragging half-wit! Exactly how patriotic do they need to be? * The top 1 percent of income earners pay about 40 percent of all income taxes. That is almost half of all income taxes collected in the US, Mr. Biden, you plagiarizing, knuckle-dragging half-wit! Exactly how patriotic do they need to be? * The top 5 percent of income earners pay about 60 percent of all income taxes. That is over half of all income taxes collected in the U.S. Mr. Sanders, you slimy, blood-sucking vampire! What do you want, more blood? * The top 10 percent of income earners pay about 70 percent of all income taxes. That is almost three-quarters of all income taxes, Democrats, you self-serving, corrupt parasites! Exactly how much of the deal do you want? Is there any left??? * The bottom half of income earners pay only 2.7 percent. How much more can we give them, you leeches?
See all of this and more in the table provided below by the Tax Foundation. How much do they get from the trial lawyer lobby for telling the truth, I wonder? Not much, I bet.
Now dont forget, these are just federal income taxes. Not included are payroll taxes, state income taxes, local taxes and everything else. Nor are the increasingly burdensome regulations government has foisted on We the Productive Class.
When all taxes are included, these tax rates about double. In other words, taxpayers work on average for an entire quarter each year just to pay taxes. Upper income groups work much longer. When cost of regulation is added, average Americans work over seven months of the year just to comply with the demands of government. How much longer do the rich work? Exactly how much skin do you want Democrats??
Now, the Republicans thought they got a good deal with Obama. What planet are they on? Since when has Obama negotiated on behalf of all the Democrats? Since when have Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid not demanded to have their pound of flesh? Who on earth goes into a negotiation with two thirds of the negotiating parties missing?? What witless moron would do that? Oh, whoops!
When the Hell are you going to learn?
So now, the deal that wasnt too good anyway turns out maybe not to be a deal after all. Big surprise! The Congressional leftists want their say, and what they are saying is that this is no deal without giving up tax cuts for the rich. But the rich are not getting a tax cut. They, along with everyone else, will be getting a tax increase if this deal doesnt go through.
Lies, lies, lies. Semantics, semantics, semantics. And since the mass media remains foursquare behind the Democrats, they can spin it however they want, because the Republicans are still either unwilling or incapable of articulating the facts.
Heres another bit of fraudulent spin. How many Democrats have you heard bemoaning the $700 billion in tax cuts that will go to millionaires and billionaires? Remember, they arent getting a tax cut. They will only be avoiding a tax increase. According to the Congressional Budget Office, the tax increase resulting from expiring Bush-era tax law would add about $400 billion in revenues to the federal treasury over five years, a paltry $80 billion per year, and most of that burden will fall on the middle class. There are two provisions that actually add to the deficit, both were proposed by Obama:
1. Extending unemployment benefits by 13 months; $56 billion; 2. Temporary payroll tax cuts of 2 percent; $112 billion over two years. This will save the average family about $20 per week. Oooh, cant wait.
While most Bush-era tax cuts remain in place, the death tax will come back at a punishing 35 percent rate for estates over $5 million. That is better than if cuts expire altogether, (55 percent for estates over $1 million), but why do we even have a death tax at all? It raises little revenue and is one of the most grossly unfair examples of double taxation on the books.
There is another problem with Obamas discussion on tax cuts. His rationale was that tax cuts will stimulate the economy and help ward off recession in 2011. Some witless pundits are saying that Obama is finally doing a Bill Clinton and moving to the center. Hey, maybe thats why he decided to let Clinton take over for a while. Of course to the extent he even moved to the center, Clinton was forcefully shoved there by Congressional Republicans.
Obama actually admits that tax cuts will help the middle class. And hed be right, if he were talking about significant cuts. But his $20 per week temporary payroll cut is just not going to do it, sorry. Instead, it is a deliberately false argument that sets us up for nationwide disappointment when neither tax cuts nor economic recovery appear.
Harry Reid backed Obamas mischaracterization of the tax bill. As quoted by Stephen Ohlemacher of the Associated Press:
This bill is not perfect, but it provides the economic boost middle-class families and small businesses in Nevada and across America need Middle-class families and small businesses will see their taxes go down.
No, they wont!
Remember, extending the current tax structure is not a tax cut. Allowing the Bush cuts to expire would be a tax increase and would make much things worse, but they are bad enough already.
So in 2011, when Obamas lousy economic policies continue to wreak havoc on the economy, he will then be able to blame the Republican tax cuts for the rich that he supported because America was being held hostage on unemployment benefits. It is merely a new twist on the same old tired Democrat class warfare rhetoric. Nothing changes so much as it stays the same. That is true for Republicans too, who apparently still dont get it!
Finally, the temporary extension was timed to make this an issue for the 2012 Presidential campaign. Because of the Democrats old media monopoly, this will play to their advantage no matter what happens.
The latest news suggests that Democrats will support this deal, now that a few sweeteners have been added. I will not hold my breath. House Democrats voiced their displeasure on Thursday, and while it was a non-binding vote, there were mumblings of a counter-proposal, no doubt restoring the death tax and higher taxes on higher income people.
So who really knows what will happen? What bugs me is the apparent gross negotiating incompetence of Congressional Republicans. Maybe I am all wrong and they engaged the Democrats with some grand Machiavellian plan, but this has all the hallmarks of a classic Democrat bait-and-switch game designed to force Republicans to accept more compromises while making them culpable for the end result.
The American people have been speaking loud and clear for the past two years, and put words into action this past November 2nd. We dont have to compromise with this corrupt, dishonest, self-serving swill. Note to Republicans: We won! Get used to it! And start earning the victory we gave you! Dont let them get away with this crap.
Hate to be the bearer of the bad news BUT until we get a real conservative(no RINOs) majority (over 60) in the US Senate we will not accomplish the start of the rollback of the Gov.
In all fairness, the new ones haven’t been seated yet and there are not enough GOPers to really prevent anything - although many of them are at least trying to make it difficult. There are, of course, the usual RINOs, but what do you expect from them?
The other thing is that the tax bill got rolling and then the Dems surged up and started nailing all sorts of other things to it in one last-ditch effort to get goodies and bring down the country. I think there are several GOP congress critters who are now saying that they are reconsidering their vote for the tax bill, simply because (as usual) it has morphed into something else.
You know the system in this country ~ a new Congress will begin as provided for in the 20th Amendment as follows:
1. The terms of the President and Vice President shall end at noon on the 20th day of January, and the terms of Senators and Representatives at noon on the 3d day of January, of the years in which such terms would have ended if this article had not been ratified; and the terms of their successors shall then begin.
2. The Congress shall assemble at least once in every year, and such meeting shall begin at noon on the 3d day of January, unless they shall by law appoint a different day.
The OLD CONGRESS which is dominated by Democrats and their running dog lackeys is still in business.
Politicians would be more likely to seek out a conservative base if it didn’t mean dealing with this type of sentiment.
Neither speaks well for those porking out this bill, and the Tea Party should be vetting primary challengers for the GOP porkers here.
A truly asinine statement. So you are saying what prevents the likes of Cornyn from seeking a conservative base is the fact that we don't want him porking up a tax bill with earmarks? Up yers. You're the type who would demand pro-lifers take it easy on Guiliani.
and the lack of hiring by CEO's.
What a rant.
But the only real bad thing in the compromise is the estate tax change, and frankly considering it’s only for $5 million and up, even I hardly care.
We had a significant victory here that should help us achieve permanent repeal in 2012.
Having visited both East Berlin and Cuba, I can say, and you all know, that much of what the progressives want will ruin this country. “The cost of freedom is eternal vigilance.” has never been truer than it is today.
Well, come January 5th the GOP will be out of excuses. They better get a spine and get working on the restoration of the Constitutional Republic.
My new congressman is actually my former one term congressman and he’s proven himself. In some 18 years in state and national politics he hasn’t become wealthy and only drew some $4 million in donations in his career (Aside from this year when he spent that much fighting union money).
In 16 years as a state senator he was a founding member of Michigan’s “NO” caucus due to his record of having never voted for a new tax or tax increase. In his two years in Nancy Pelosi’s house of representatives, he didn’t keep an apartment in Washington DC, he slept on a cot in his office. When gas was over $4 a gallon, he didn’t head for home during his summer break, he stayed in DC and demanded that speaker Pelosi return and deal with energy policy. One of the last things he did before the 08 election was vote no on the bank bailout both times. The NRCC stripped him of money and called the race a lost cause. He lost by a whopping 2%.
We the people of this district have chosen to return him to Washington in January and Washington had better listen. As for the voters of America, maybe its time to stop looking for stars and start looking for people who do the right thing quietly.
Politicians would be more likely to seek out a conservative base if it didnt mean dealing with this type of sentiment.
Nevermind, Rippin is a staffer for “Mike” McConnell...and we are a pain in the netheregion to these stuffy bureaucrats who can’t spell Republic.
We are past the point where elections will fix this thing.
We are entitled, as conservatives, to embrace fiscal responsibility, and the current omnibus spending bill is so incredibly pork-ridden that it is smokey-bacon-flavored. Also, that monstrosity funds Obamacare for a year -- something we vowed to defund. Finally, in 2006, when Republicans lost big, they didn't try to jam a spending bill down Democrats throats in the last weeks of the lame-duck. They punted to the Democrats.
If you guys cannot embrace conservative principles of -- at the BARE minimum -- fiscal restraint, or hopefully the higher embrace of freedom and individual liberties, then you are correct.
Then there is no point to reaching out to us.
Because at that point, you will be liberals.
You see, Democrats want to drive over the cliff at 90 miles an hour. Liberal Republicans argue it would be best if we drive over the cliff at 20 miles an hour. Conservative Republicans want to brake before the cliff, and the most conservative want to put the car in reverse.
and that’s BEFORE they cave to an even higher Death Tax even
How did you figure that out?
Did you notice that the article I was responding to attacked Republicans in the title and spent the next two pages complaining about positions espoused by Democrats and media types?
Did you actually read the article? How many Republican quotes did it address? What did the title say?
Have you ever heard the term ‘addressable market?’ Are you one? Think about it.
I'm delighted that the Republican leadership did step up and stop the OmniPork bill. I know they won't be able to with DADT, and -- especially inasmuch as 22 of 26 NATO countries have no noticable military degradation with homosexuals in it -- I guess I can live with DADT.
But, if you are a staffer, please know for your own self-interests alone, DREAM must go down. Second to your own self-interests, please note that we Tea Partiers are a force to be reckoned with, and it would be best if we ally.
I got attacked for making a point about how some conservatives respond to things and how no politician wants to have that group in his base using an article as an example.
We need to sell conservativism to politicians and they need to know how to appeal to that base and if it looks impossible forget it.
Holding firm principles is critical. Attacking the Rs in a lame duck for things said by Democrats is not is just nuts.
Besides, there's lots of articles out there. Any nut with a keyboard can type. It's not much to base your line of thought on.
Well excuse me for commenting on the article posted. Anyway, thank God about the pork bill and DREAM. Too bad about DADT and extending unemployment.