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Russia's too thin 'designer' uniform leads to pneumonia and flu
Telegraph ^ | 12/16/10 | Andrew Osborn

Posted on 12/16/2010 6:30:58 AM PST by TigerLikesRooster

Russia's too thin 'designer' uniform leads to pneumonia and flu

The Russian army's expensive new "designer" uniform has been criticised for being too thin after hundreds of young conscripts in Siberia kitted out in it fell ill with pneumonia and flu.

By Andrew Osborn, Moscow 6:00AM GMT 16 Dec 2010

Parents of the sick conscripts blamed the army's new uniform which was created, amid much fanfare, by the flamboyant Moscow fashion designer Valentin Yudashkin.

Mr Yudashkin, who is famous in Russia for dressing Kremlin wives, won a multi-million pound tender to give the Red Army's successor a fashion makeover in 2007 after soldiers complained that their old uniforms made them look like they were serving in a poor developing country's army.

But parents said that the uniforms, which were debuted at a grand Red Square military parade in 2008, had put fashion before practicality.

"On the street they (our boys) literally felt naked," a relative of one of the soldiers told the government daily newspaper Rossiiskaya Gazeta.

"They gave our lads army boots made from fake leather with cardboard inner soles, socks, and light clothing clearly not suitable for winter."

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: cold; fashion; militaryuniform; russia
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So they know now how Germans troops felt on Eastern front in WWII.
1 posted on 12/16/2010 6:31:06 AM PST by TigerLikesRooster
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Lol.


2 posted on 12/16/2010 6:35:15 AM PST by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Long time ago, I read a study from the Rockefeller Institute. They wet and chilled volunteers and the data indicated that the wet, chilly people caught no more colds, flu, etc. than the dry, warm control group. Gotta hit the books again.


3 posted on 12/16/2010 6:36:16 AM PST by Silentgypsy
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Poo!
Pneumonia and flu are caused by bacteria and virus, not thin uniforms.................


4 posted on 12/16/2010 6:36:16 AM PST by Red Badger (Whenever these vermin call you an “idiot”, you can be sure that you are doing to something right.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
It does look thin.


5 posted on 12/16/2010 6:36:23 AM PST by Lazamataz (Only 21 days of Democrat fascism left!)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

The new uniforms are contaminated with pathogenic bacteria and viruses?


6 posted on 12/16/2010 6:36:54 AM PST by exDemMom (Now that I've finally accepted that I'm living a bad hair life, I'm more at peace with the world.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
So much for the L'Empereur line. Toss out the Napoleonic retro look and return to a nice heavy Siberian overcoat.
7 posted on 12/16/2010 6:37:05 AM PST by KarlInOhio (All monopolies are detestable, but the worst of all is the monopoly of education. -Frederic Bastiat)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

That whole “germ theory” thing is a capitalist trick! They aren’t gonna fall for that one!


8 posted on 12/16/2010 6:40:48 AM PST by ClearCase_guy
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To: Red Badger
Pneumonia and flu are caused by bacteria and virus, not thin uniforms.................

True enough, but can't being cold and/or wet for an extended period reduce the effectiveness of the immune system?

9 posted on 12/16/2010 6:40:48 AM PST by luvbach1 (Stop Barry now. He can't help himself.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Wow, they aren’t making Russians like they used to! Where have all the stone soup eaters gone?


10 posted on 12/16/2010 6:43:24 AM PST by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (Criminals are looting the country in broad daylight & all we do is whine and type.)
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To: Red Badger

That’s what I thought. Stressors can play a role in susceptibility, though, and maybe the cold was enough of a stressor to compromise immunocompetence.


11 posted on 12/16/2010 6:45:26 AM PST by Silentgypsy
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To: 668 - Neighbor of the Beast

Maybe those Spetsnaz cats aren’t the norm?


12 posted on 12/16/2010 6:48:01 AM PST by Silentgypsy
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To: 668 - Neighbor of the Beast
"They gave our lads army boots made from fake leather with cardboard inner soles, socks, and light clothing clearly not suitable for winter."

Ivan's gone with the Metro Sexual look.

13 posted on 12/16/2010 6:48:29 AM PST by ImJustAnotherOkie (zerogottago)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
Russia's too thin 'designer' uniform leads to pneumonia and flu:

Red Army to Switch to All-Weather Burkhas

14 posted on 12/16/2010 6:48:54 AM PST by bunkerhill7
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To: Red Badger
Pneumonia and flu are caused by bacteria and virus, not thin uniforms.................

Thin uniforms, more reason to be indoors with others or huddle in groups around heat sources, thus more likely to come into contact with those who may already be sick and perpetuate the cycle.

Now, where's my grant money?

15 posted on 12/16/2010 6:50:57 AM PST by IYAS9YAS (Liberalism can be summed up thusly: someone craps their pants and we all have to wear diapers)
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To: Lazamataz
Yes, very thin...


16 posted on 12/16/2010 6:50:57 AM PST by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: Silentgypsy
Long time ago, I read a study from the Rockefeller Institute. They wet and chilled volunteers and the data indicated that the wet, chilly people caught no more colds, flu, etc. than the dry, warm control group. Gotta hit the books again.

I always have a problem giving credence to studies that directly contradict my personal experiences and hundreds of years of accepted common wisdom.

17 posted on 12/16/2010 6:51:31 AM PST by SampleMan (If all of the people currently oppressed shared a common geography, bullets would already be flying.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

They could have used Edna Mode.

18 posted on 12/16/2010 6:51:41 AM PST by dfwgator (Welcome to the Gator Nation Will Muschamp)
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To: bunkerhill7

At least put some ear muffs on those hats.

Frostbitten ears are uncomfortable.


19 posted on 12/16/2010 6:52:37 AM PST by Venturer
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To: TigerLikesRooster

The second half of the article is hillarious.


20 posted on 12/16/2010 6:54:50 AM PST by Pan_Yan
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To: TigerLikesRooster
The second half of the article is hilarious.
21 posted on 12/16/2010 6:54:59 AM PST by Pan_Yan
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To: Red Badger
Pneumonia and flu are caused by bacteria and virus, not thin uniforms.................

And getting chilled decreases your bodies ability to resist them.

22 posted on 12/16/2010 6:55:59 AM PST by SampleMan (If all of the people currently oppressed shared a common geography, bullets would already be flying.)
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To: exDemMom
The new uniforms are contaminated with pathogenic bacteria and viruses?

They're made from old reusable shopping bags

Green grocery bags can carry countless bacteria

23 posted on 12/16/2010 6:59:40 AM PST by KosmicKitty (WARNING: Hormonally crazed woman ahead!!)
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To: Yo-Yo
Catch your death of cold.


24 posted on 12/16/2010 7:00:34 AM PST by Lazamataz (Only 20 days of Democrat fascism left!)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

This is not uncommon for the Russians. Look at the career of Vladimir Sukhomlinov:

(born Aug. 4 [Aug. 16, New Style], 1848—died Feb. 2, 1926, Berlin, Ger.) Russian general and minister of war who was largely responsible for Russia’s premature and unprepared entry into World War I.

Sukhomlinov took part in the Russo-Turkish war as a cavalry commander (1877–78) and was head of the officers’ cavalry school in St. Petersburg from 1886 to 1897, being promoted to general in 1898. He was Russian war minister from 1909 to 1915, and it was under him that the Russian orders for mobilization were given at the outbreak of World War I. At the time of Austria’s ultimatum to Serbia, Sukhomlinov assured the government of the combat readiness of Russian troops. The partial mobilization soon revealed the demoralized and unequipped state of the nation’s armed forces. As the war progressed, Russian combat operations were increasingly hampered by shortages of arms, ammunition, and other war matériel, but Sukhomlinov continued to insist that the army was adequately supplied. In June 1915 the thoroughly discredited Sukhomlinov was dismissed and replaced by the able General A.A. Polivanov.

Despite Sukhomlinov’s close ties with the tsar, public sentiment ran high and charges of malfeasance, corruption, and treason were brought against him by the Duma. He was arrested in April 1916, freed in October at the tsar’s instigation, and rearrested after the Revolution by the provisional government. At his trial in the autumn of 1917, he was found guilty and sentenced to life imprisonment at hard labour. He was freed by an amnesty granted by the Bolsheviks and went to Finland and later to Germany, where he composed his memoirs, Erinnerungen, published in 1924.

http://www.history.com/topics/vladimir-aleksandrovich-sukhomlinov


25 posted on 12/16/2010 7:02:18 AM PST by henkster (A broken government does not merit full faith and credit.)
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To: Yo-Yo
Get whooping cough.....


26 posted on 12/16/2010 7:03:28 AM PST by Lazamataz (Only 20 days of Democrat fascism left!)
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To: Lazamataz
Don't look around ...
Oh, no ---
Der Kommissar's in town ...
Oh, oh ---
27 posted on 12/16/2010 7:05:46 AM PST by BlueLancer (I'm getting a fine tootsy-frootsying right here...)
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To: Yo-Yo
Get pneumonia.....


28 posted on 12/16/2010 7:06:14 AM PST by Lazamataz (Only 20 days of Democrat fascism left!)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

good thing for them they were not so fashion conscious at Stalingrad


29 posted on 12/16/2010 7:07:30 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Silentgypsy

I have seen the study before but I don’t believe it. maybe it depends on how long a person stays wet and chilled. I know that several times I have been severely chilled, I have gotten sick. One notable time I was caught out in 20 below weather unprepared and I ended up with the flu within a couple of days.


30 posted on 12/16/2010 7:13:51 AM PST by Ditter
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To: TigerLikesRooster
Mr Yudashkin, who is famous in Russia for dressing Kremlin wives, won a multi-million pound tender to give the Red Army's successor a fashion makeover in 2007 after soldiers complained that their old uniforms made them look like they were serving in a poor developing country's army.

Sounds like it is politics as usual the world over doesn't it? Award the contract to someone you know and to he** with the troops.

31 posted on 12/16/2010 7:19:39 AM PST by calex59
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Old Russian saying:

They pretend to pay us.

We pretend to work.


32 posted on 12/16/2010 7:20:56 AM PST by ridesthemiles
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To: TigerLikesRooster

They need red suspenders on bright green checkerboard slacks, paisley shirt and purple overcoat!

If you’re going to fight, CLASH!


33 posted on 12/16/2010 7:22:51 AM PST by Mr. K ('Profiling' you is worse than grabbing your balls)
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To: Ditter

Common sense also rules in this instance. If cold and wet doesn’t help bring on flu and pnem. then why is it there are more cases in the winter?


34 posted on 12/16/2010 7:27:04 AM PST by calex59
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To: Yo-Yo

Undress Blues?


35 posted on 12/16/2010 7:30:00 AM PST by Waverunner (I'd like to welcome our new overlords, say hello to my little friend)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
But he and his subordinates suggested that the conscripts had fallen ill only because their commanding officers had behaved irresponsibly and made them stand guard and work in sub-zero temperatures that no uniform could withstand for long periods.

The new uniforms had been tested and found fit for Russia's harsh winters, they added.

Concerns have previously been raised about the fact that many Russian officers and soldiers are too fat to comfortably fit into the new uniforms.
36 posted on 12/16/2010 7:30:55 AM PST by aruanan
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To: TigerLikesRooster
Perhaps a traditional fur uniform...

37 posted on 12/16/2010 7:32:07 AM PST by Waverunner (I'd like to welcome our new overlords, say hello to my little friend)
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To: dfwgator
They could have used Edna Mode.

But it breathes like Egyptian cotton.

38 posted on 12/16/2010 7:36:11 AM PST by AT7Saluki (No cejar, no ceder)
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To: calex59

If cold and wet doesn’t help bring on flu and pnem. then why is it there are more cases in the winter?
....................

Because people are indoors, in contact with each other, in buildings and climate conditions which nurture these bugs on surfaces, in the ducting, and in the air. You can’t catch a cold running outside without a coat; in fact, bugs are less likely to be floating around surviving out in the cold.


39 posted on 12/16/2010 7:39:12 AM PST by lurk
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To: TigerLikesRooster
This one looks nice though...
40 posted on 12/16/2010 7:39:54 AM PST by fruser1
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To: Lazamataz

Oh, baby!


41 posted on 12/16/2010 7:41:52 AM PST by Allegra (I painted fuchsia stripes on my elbows.)
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To: Allegra
By the way, that's me modeling the new uniform.

Seriously.

42 posted on 12/16/2010 7:46:08 AM PST by Lazamataz (Only 20 days of Democrat fascism left!)
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To: lurk
While cold doesn't actually cause colds, flu ect(any idiot knows that especially an old idiot like me)the lower resistance does help bring on disease. Cold weather does make germs more inactive but it doesn't kill them and in fact makes it easier to spread them as they are carried from warm place to warm place without danger to themselves.

The fact that cold does make germs inactive is borne out by the low amount of colds caught in an artic environment.

43 posted on 12/16/2010 7:48:51 AM PST by calex59
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To: TigerLikesRooster
From what I could tell, those are pretty slick dress uniforms and not BDU or other utility type gear. I can't see any troops wearing these in any other situation other than formal, much less as winter or foul weather gear.

The folks blaming the uniforms for elevated pneumonia and such are probably full of BS. Heck, I doubt if conscripts are even issued this uniform on any general basis.

Opinion!

44 posted on 12/16/2010 7:49:41 AM PST by Hootowl99
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To: TigerLikesRooster

45 posted on 12/16/2010 7:49:41 AM PST by paulycy (Demand Constitutionality. Save America From Bankruptcy.)
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To: calex59

The fact that cold does make germs inactive is borne out by the low amount of colds caught in an artic environment.

Or is it that there just are not so many people in the Artic environments


46 posted on 12/16/2010 7:55:45 AM PST by Chickensoup (I am no longer Republican or Democrat, I am Conservative.)
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To: paulycy

Zardoz!


47 posted on 12/16/2010 8:03:35 AM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (NASA? Muslims? Muslims will want to go to the moon only when Israel sets up shop there.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Ironic they now have the same problems the Germans had in WWII: snazzy uniforms that couldn’t stand up to the Russian winter.


48 posted on 12/16/2010 8:08:53 AM PST by DesScorp
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To: Chickensoup

Correlation does not equal causation, as this entire article may demonstrate.


49 posted on 12/16/2010 8:28:43 AM PST by dagogo redux (A whiff of primitive spirits in the air, harbingers of an impending descent into the feral.)
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To: Lazamataz
Those last three pics are far superior to your first pic for two reasons:

1) The model in your first pic is more appropriate for a DADT thread, and

B) The uniform in your first pic was USMC, when the thread was about Russian uniforms.

You admirably and fully compensated for the first image with your last three postings.

My eyes thank you!

50 posted on 12/16/2010 9:48:01 AM PST by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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