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America's New Mercenaries
Daily Beast ^ | 12-15-10 | Tim Shorrock

Posted on 12/16/2010 9:31:26 AM PST by WOBBLY BOB

As American commanders meet this week for the Afghanistan review, Obama is hiring military contractors at a rate that would make Bush blush.

(Excerpt) Read more at thedailybeast.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: afghanistan; blackwater; contractors; mercenaries; obama; wot

1 posted on 12/16/2010 9:31:28 AM PST by WOBBLY BOB
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To: WOBBLY BOB
Obama is hiring military contractors at a rate that would make Bush blush.

How many are going to be deployed domestically?
2 posted on 12/16/2010 9:40:45 AM PST by mrmeyer ("When brute force is on the march, compromise is the red carpet." Ayn Rand)
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To: WOBBLY BOB

This guy is about to be engulfed in helicopter dust.

I hate it when that happens.

3 posted on 12/16/2010 9:44:48 AM PST by Allegra (I painted fuchsia stripes on my elbows.)
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To: WOBBLY BOB
As American commanders meet this week for the Afghanistan review, Obama is hiring military contractors at a rate that would make Bush blush.

How else can we follow the path of Rome?

4 posted on 12/16/2010 9:48:17 AM PST by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: Allegra

Sh*thooks have a way of messing up a nice hairdo.


5 posted on 12/16/2010 9:48:17 AM PST by WOBBLY BOB ( "I don't want the majority if we don't stand for something"- Jim Demint)
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6 posted on 12/16/2010 9:53:40 AM PST by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: WOBBLY BOB

I hate how these guys are portrayed. They are American heros as surely as any other soldier. They all have military experience,,most in very elite units, doing extremely dangerous things. These “mercenaries” are our sons.

They SHOULD be paid the rates they get for what they do. Ill support our Blackwater (or whatever they are called now) guys getting 150k and up for their above high-level skill sets, because thats the market wage to attract them back.

1) I never see them work for the other side,, so it’s not just them being “mercenaries”, up for the highest bidder.

2) Soldiers are only revered if they bear extreme risks for the standard military pay scale, for patriotism ya know. But do you see a Lockheed exec, etc,,expected to work at an artifically low pay scale because it’s for the country? Do you see senators even refuse pay raises and donate it to wounded warriors?

Interesting, lots of “patriots” expect soldiers to do it for love of country,, just don’t expect the oligarchy to take a penny less than they possibly can, out of patriotism.


7 posted on 12/16/2010 9:54:03 AM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office)
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To: WOBBLY BOB

I wonder how many of these Afganistan-bound mercenaries are out-of-the-closet homosexuals?


8 posted on 12/16/2010 9:54:46 AM PST by Mobties (Let the markets work! Reduce the government footprint!)
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To: WOBBLY BOB

I wonder how many of these Afganistan-bound mercenaries are out-of-the-closet homosexuals


9 posted on 12/16/2010 9:54:52 AM PST by Mobties (Let the markets work! Reduce the government footprint!)
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To: Mobties

I’d make a wild-eyed guess that it’s darn near ZERO ...


10 posted on 12/16/2010 9:59:09 AM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: WOBBLY BOB

Remember how the Liberal Left whined ENDLESSLY about using mercenaries under Bush?

I wonder where that faked outrage is now??


11 posted on 12/16/2010 10:02:41 AM PST by tcrlaf (Obama White House=Tammany Hall on the National Mall)
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To: tcrlaf

I think now it will be claimed as creating jobs.


12 posted on 12/16/2010 10:05:52 AM PST by WOBBLY BOB ( "I don't want the majority if we don't stand for something"- Jim Demint)
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To: Mobties
"I wonder how many of these Afganistan-bound mercenaries are out-of-the-closet homosexuals"

Somewhere between few and none, I'd wager.

13 posted on 12/16/2010 10:07:21 AM PST by ronnyquest (Barack H. Obama is the Manchurian Candidate. What are you going to do about it?)
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To: DesertRhino

I don’t doubt their patriotism nor question their pay.

I just don’t think we belong in A-stan.(nor can we afford it even if we did belong there)

No amount of ‘mercs’ or whatever you want to call them will solve warring between dozens and dozens of various tribes.


14 posted on 12/16/2010 10:09:28 AM PST by WOBBLY BOB ( "I don't want the majority if we don't stand for something"- Jim Demint)
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To: DesertRhino
They SHOULD be paid the rates they get for what they do. Ill support our Blackwater (or whatever they are called now) guys getting 150k and up for their above high-level skill sets, because thats the market wage to attract them back.

Bingo.

It's also cost-effective. It's cheaper to pay a contractor a 6 figure salary than it is to put an E-1 Private on the ground.

On his very first day on the job, that Private costs us millions once you figure training costs, medical, dental, housing, food, VA benefits etc. for him AND his entire family if he's married.

Not to mention the fact that Big Army Joe Snuffy simply can't perform many of these specialized jobs - even if we wanted him to. That, of course, is not any reflection of his abilities, there's just no MOS for many such nuanced operations.

15 posted on 12/16/2010 10:10:14 AM PST by AAABEST (Et lux in tenebris lucet: et tenebrae eam non comprehenderunt)
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To: AAABEST

Yup...and we don’t care if he EVER ‘asks’, ‘tells’ or even thinks about it!!!


16 posted on 12/16/2010 10:24:03 AM PST by SMARTY (Conforming to non-conformity is conforming just the same.)
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To: WOBBLY BOB

Well Saudi money is all through the 6 US TV networks> All of TV and Hollywood support the islamist including Al Waleed’s Fox.


17 posted on 12/16/2010 10:24:37 AM PST by Frantzie
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Good thing we can’t drill here -is the EPA run by the Saudis?


18 posted on 12/16/2010 10:32:17 AM PST by WOBBLY BOB ( "I don't want the majority if we don't stand for something"- Jim Demint)
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To: AAABEST

Having been there and done that I can confirm they cannot do many of the “refined” tasks - as opposed to warfare. In fact I asked to be repatriated when I found this out in a very dangerous fashion AND discovered the high pay was not paid monthly as “salary” but as high back-end bonuses at the end of two years, so the actual pay was about $4,000 a month for a daily life threatening activity.

If you got killed your death benefit was a total of $40,000 to your heirs!

Lots of other mind boggling stupid stuff but that’s why we are writing a book.


19 posted on 12/16/2010 10:41:14 AM PST by FARS (Be healthy, happy and thrive)
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To: WOBBLY BOB

I would be environmental groups are backed by Saudi money. They own DC, London and other western capitals. The have the best law firms in DC and London on retainer.

The Dems keep putting petroleum, nat gas and coal filled lands on Federal Land to keep us energy serfs to the Saudis.

Americans have no clue what is going on. The havoc Pelosi , Reid and Obama are doing between now and the end of January means the 2010 elections were pretty meaningless.


20 posted on 12/16/2010 10:49:05 AM PST by Frantzie
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To: AAABEST
That, of course, is not any reflection of his abilities, there's just no MOS for many such nuanced operations.

Often overlooked point. Many contractors have developed some sort of highly specialized set of skills which is not found anywhere in the military, and isn't yet ready for transition to the military. These skills are extremely valuable "over there", and contractors are the only way to get them.

'nuff said.

21 posted on 12/16/2010 11:06:59 AM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: ArrogantBustard
Have a friend who worked 7-8 years mercs; red blooded American who is more conservative than most Freepers. He made alot of money and was able to set himself up in business when he got out. Once told me he really liked the work but as you age, you lose the sharpness, have to get out; young mans game.

I hunt with this guy every fall and he is a natural. I go out dummy around in the woods and kill junk here & there; my buddy does it consistently; second nature. We are both vets, but man I wouldn't want my friend hunting me down; he's awful good at killin everything I do believe. Boy he has all the high priced guns too, got me into buying the wildcat calibers too.

22 posted on 12/16/2010 12:19:20 PM PST by Eska
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To: WOBBLY BOB

The Romans have a lot to teach us here. They knew how to pit tribe against tribe to divide and rule. I personally would like the US to pick a few winners among the tribes, withdraw from Crapganistan, and fry any tribes that get out of line.


23 posted on 12/16/2010 1:04:25 PM PST by WMarshal (Where is the next Sam Adams?)
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