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Bandits in Cop Cars; But Napolitano Isnít Listening, Arizona Sheriff Says
CNSNews ^ | December 16, 2010 | Susan Jones

Posted on 12/16/2010 11:08:34 AM PST by jazusamo

Paul Babeu

Pinal County Sheriff Paul Babeu.
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(CNSNews.com) - Paul Babeu, the sheriff of Pinal County, Arizona, says give him half an hour, and he could tell President Obama how to secure the U.S. border with Mexico -- if only the president and other administration officials would listen to him.

Babeu joked that he must be on the White House “do not call” list, even though he’s the president of the Sheriff’s Association for the State of Arizona.

In an interview with Fox News on Thursday, Babeu lamented the murder of a U.S. Border Patrol agent on Tuesday at the hands of “bandits” – illegal aliens in the U.S. who steal from cartel members who sneak drugs into the United States.

It’s an ongoing problem, Babeu said: “We had just this past weekend other bandits that are using what appear to be a police car – with lights and sirens, red and blue lights, push bumper, spotlights – that are stopping vehicles, trying to steal drugs from cartel members -- in my county.”

Yet Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano doesn’t talk to him, Babeu said – “because we have a different opinion than her about the reality of what our country is facing.”

Babeu knows exactly what he would tell Napolitano and the president – if they would listen to him or accept his invitation to “come see what we’re facing.”

“We need 6, 000 armed soldiers,” Babeu said. “We need to build and complete the double barrier fences that he suspended – stopped the construction; and then, a novel concept – we need to enforce the law. You come into America, you’re breaking America’s laws – you’re apprechended then you’re formally deported. You come back into our country illegally, you’re going to prison.  Those three things…will secure our borders,” Babeu told Fox News.

As things stand now, neither President Obama nor Janet Napolitano has spoken to Babeu, despite his efforts to get them on the phone – or to visit Pinal County in person.

He said Napolitano’s visit to Arizona today and tomorrow does not signal that the administration is taking the danger any more seriously: “Here we’ve heard nothing except that the border’s more secure than ever, unprecedented resources…”

On Tuesday, in a conference call with border sheriffs and police chiefs that did not include Babeu, Napolitano reviewed what the Homeland Security Department has done to boost border security in the past year.

It’s not enough, Babeu argues.

As CNSNews.com has reported, Napolitano's conference call came on the same day that Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry was murdered near Nogales, Arizona.

Pinal County is in south-central Arizona, about 70 miles from the U.S. Mexico border, but it is along the drug corridor leading from Mexico to Phoenix.

Also see:
Sheriff Babeu: It’s ‘An Outrage’ Obama Stopped Building Border Fence (Aug. 26, 2010)
Arizona Sheriff Says Cops Are Being Killed by Illegal Aliens; Joins Call for U.S. Troops at Border (Apr. 20, 2010)
Arizona Sheriff: ‘Our Own Government Has Become Our Enemy’ (Aug. 1, 2010)
Arizona Now Has ‘Whopping 30’ National Guard Troops and 15 Billboard Signs Warning Citizens About Drug Cartels (Sept. 1, 2010)



TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: aliens; babeu; bandits; bigsis; border; crimaliens; drugcartels; drugs; fence; illegals; mexicans; napolitano; obama; sis; sovereignty
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It's criminal that Obama and Napolitano ignore Sheriffs that are in the middle of the fight to protect Americans.
1 posted on 12/16/2010 11:08:37 AM PST by jazusamo
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2 posted on 12/16/2010 11:11:12 AM PST by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: jazusamo

Why would Janet ‘Big Sis’ Napolitano and the Obama Administration listen to anyone. To hear them tell it ... they have ALL the answers.

It is a shame that they haven’t a CLUE as to the proper questions to ask.


3 posted on 12/16/2010 11:15:17 AM PST by K-oneTexas (I'm not a judge and there ain't enough of me to be a jury. (Zell Miller, A National Party No More))
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To: Nachum

“Paul Babeu, the sheriff of Pinal County, Arizona, says give him half an hour, and he could tell President Obama how to secure the U.S. border with Mexico”

Is it the law or policy stopping this sheriff from doing his job? If law he should help change it, if policy then the failure is his fault.

It’s his border, he is on the ground, he is in charge and defines the policy.


4 posted on 12/16/2010 11:15:36 AM PST by edcoil ("The only winning move is not to play")
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To: jazusamo
Paul Babeu, the sheriff of Pinal County, Arizona...... the man who will some day take over for Joe Arpio.
5 posted on 12/16/2010 11:16:26 AM PST by umgud
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To: jazusamo

Really...why Arizona residents bother to pay Federal taxes...I can’t imagine.

South Korean sleep tight on their borders due to the US Military and US Taxpayer...why can’t Arizonans?


6 posted on 12/16/2010 11:20:21 AM PST by mo
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To: jazusamo

Some Ranger patrols in this canyon would clear up turf disputes real quick.


7 posted on 12/16/2010 11:22:08 AM PST by WOBBLY BOB ( "I don't want the majority if we don't stand for something"- Jim Demint)
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To: jazusamo

Obama needs to be impeached, tried for treason and brought to justice for the harm he has done to America.


8 posted on 12/16/2010 11:23:04 AM PST by thethirddegree
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To: umgud
the man who will some day take over for Joe Arpio.

Yes, and he's a worthy man indeed.

9 posted on 12/16/2010 11:23:12 AM PST by jazusamo (His [Obama's] political base---the young, the left and the thoughtless: Thomas Sowell)
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To: edcoil
Is it the law or policy stopping this sheriff from doing his job? If law he should help change it, if policy then the failure is his fault. It’s his border, he is on the ground, he is in charge and defines the policy.

He says it needs the fence completed and 6000 armed men to hold the US border. He has no authority over the fence and he has no budget for 6000 armed men.

10 posted on 12/16/2010 11:23:16 AM PST by SeeSac
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To: SeeSac

If we have a proper fence, why 6,000 men


11 posted on 12/16/2010 11:24:49 AM PST by edcoil ("The only winning move is not to play")
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To: edcoil

if we have a border-long minefield, a lot less men would be needed.


12 posted on 12/16/2010 11:26:39 AM PST by WOBBLY BOB ( "I don't want the majority if we don't stand for something"- Jim Demint)
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To: thethirddegree
I have a dream!

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BE STILL MY HEART!


13 posted on 12/16/2010 11:26:57 AM PST by Dick Bachert (11/2 was a good start. Onward to '12. U Pubbies be strong or next time we send in the libertarians!)
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To: edcoil

“Is it the law or policy stopping this sheriff from doing his job? If law he should help change it, if policy then the failure is his fault.”

What the hell are you talking about? All of the sheriffs in the border counties of Az are doing their job. They are out manned and out gunned by the smugglers. Have you not been paying attention? The border sheriffs have all been screaming about this. Babeu has been front and center on this issue from day one. He has had deputies shot by these animals. He needs the damn federal govt to start doing it’s job.


14 posted on 12/16/2010 11:27:10 AM PST by sean327 (God created all men equal, then some become Marines!)
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To: jazusamo
You come into America, you’re breaking America’s laws – you’re apprechended (sic) then you’re formally deported. You come back into our country illegally, you’re going to prison.

This will NEVER work.

You know why?

It's common sense.

Democrats legislated Common Sense out of existance about 40 years ago...

15 posted on 12/16/2010 11:29:04 AM PST by NorCoGOP (OBAMA: Living proof that hope is not a plan.)
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To: edcoil

Sure.

He should build the fence, launch his UV’s, put his 6,000 deputies to work...

You have it all figured out.


16 posted on 12/16/2010 11:29:58 AM PST by old curmudgeon
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To: Dick Bachert

Great pic! Now we need one with Obamabitch and his Bubba


17 posted on 12/16/2010 11:29:58 AM PST by thethirddegree
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To: jazusamo

Like Clinton’s women, our border states are being sacrificed to the political agenda of the left.


18 posted on 12/16/2010 11:32:25 AM PST by Spok (Clueless, classless, clown...and our president.)
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To: NorCoGOP

You’re right...Until we get a president and enough people on the Hill that don’t hate America to put some common sense back into legislation it won’t change.


19 posted on 12/16/2010 11:35:24 AM PST by jazusamo (His [Obama's] political base---the young, the left and the thoughtless: Thomas Sowell)
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To: old curmudgeon; edcoil

Pinal County, Arizona isn’t even on the Mexican border.

The county to the south, Pima, is being run by illegal aliens already from what I can tell.


20 posted on 12/16/2010 11:37:30 AM PST by donna (Synonyms: Feminism, Marxism, Communism, Socialism, Fascism, Islamism, Darwinism)
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To: edcoil

A fence is worthless without armed men to stop it from being destroyed.But a fence is still useful;troops used concertina wire to slow the hostiles so they can then be shot.It is difficult to do much when you are entangled in barb or razor wire.


21 posted on 12/16/2010 11:39:19 AM PST by hoosierham (Waddaya mean Freedom isn't free ?;will you take a credit card?)
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To: jazusamo

Perhaps-Shoot/burry/shut-up, would work best.


22 posted on 12/16/2010 11:47:02 AM PST by JamesA (You don't have to be big to stand tall)
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To: donna

OK, so the only thing that really changes is that he can’t build a wall.

So all he has to do is field his 6,000 mean and his UV’s and win the war single handedly.

Wonder how many deputies he actually has? Maybe 150 or so?

Most of the rural sheriff departments operate with a pretty small crew.


23 posted on 12/16/2010 11:48:01 AM PST by old curmudgeon
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To: jazusamo

When will folks stop giving this administration the benefit of the doubt?

Obama has no interest in “fixing” anything in America.
His only goal is to buy as many votes as possible, so as to implement and maintain his socialist agenda.


24 posted on 12/16/2010 11:49:02 AM PST by G Larry (When you're right, avoid compromise!)
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To: WOBBLY BOB
"if we have a border-long minefield, a lot less men would be needed."

Indeed, and the coyotes can clean up the mess.

25 posted on 12/16/2010 11:49:25 AM PST by Mich Patriot
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To: sean327
"What the hell are you talking about? All of the sheriffs in the border counties of Az are doing their job. They are out manned and out gunned by the smugglers. Have you not been paying attention? The border sheriffs have all been screaming about this. Babeu has been front and center on this issue from day one. He has had deputies shot by these animals. He needs the damn federal govt to start doing it’s job."

Hope you don't mind, but your response was so perfect, I just wanted to repost it.

26 posted on 12/16/2010 11:51:00 AM PST by Mich Patriot
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To: G Larry

Yep, it’s his administration and the Dems that want those votes.


27 posted on 12/16/2010 11:52:57 AM PST by jazusamo (His [Obama's] political base---the young, the left and the thoughtless: Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo

Paul Babeu, the sheriff of Pinal County, Arizona, says give him half an hour, and he could tell President Obama how to secure the U.S. border with Mexico.
“We need 6, 000 armed soldiers,” Babeu said.”

I can do it in under 30 seconds:
Dozen rednecks, 24 cases of beer, $2.00 bounty per ear.


28 posted on 12/16/2010 12:02:49 PM PST by rickb308 (Nothing good ever came from someone yelling Allah Snackbar)
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To: donna

I just looked up the department numbers.

The county is divided into three regions, A, B and C.

48 men with 12 supervisors in A. 37 men and 1 super in B and not posted for C.

It would stand to reason that C would have something like 40 men so his total force including supervisors would be 140 men and women.

With that mighty force, he is supposed to whip all of the banditos in Mexico when even the Mexican army can’t do it.

You just have to feel sorry for the sheriff. He has a hell of a job and no support.

I wonder what would happen if the sheriffs along the border would deputize every able bodied man and woman in their jurisdictions and get donations for some sort of .50 caliber weapon for each deputy....

And turn them loose to clean the place up.


29 posted on 12/16/2010 12:02:51 PM PST by old curmudgeon
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To: old curmudgeon

And, the 340,000 citizens of Pinal County can foot the bill for the whole country!


30 posted on 12/16/2010 12:05:06 PM PST by donna (Synonyms: Feminism, Marxism, Communism, Socialism, Fascism, Islamism, Darwinism)
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To: old curmudgeon

Sheriff Arpaio in Maricopa County is fighting the battle and the “powers that be” are trying to bring him down with all kinds of investigations.

I think there is just too much drug money for bribes for Arizona to last much longer.


31 posted on 12/16/2010 12:11:29 PM PST by donna (Synonyms: Feminism, Marxism, Communism, Socialism, Fascism, Islam ism, Darwinism)
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To: K-oneTexas

“Why would Janet ‘Big Cyst’ Napolitano”

There! Fixed it!


32 posted on 12/16/2010 12:13:01 PM PST by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: jazusamo

This is terrible. However, there is light at the end of this very long and very dark tunnel: we only have to tolerate this for two more years. No matter who is elected in 2012, he or she will close the borders.


33 posted on 12/16/2010 12:14:17 PM PST by ottbmare (off-the-track Thoroughbred mare)
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To: WOBBLY BOB
...if we have a border-long minefield, a lot less men would be needed.

Careful! A couple of years ago I advocated mining the border and was threatened with banning or suspension by a Mod for doing so.

34 posted on 12/16/2010 12:20:51 PM PST by JimRed (Excising a cancer before it kills us waters the Tree of Liberty too! TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; 7.62 x 51mm; ..

Ping!


35 posted on 12/16/2010 12:32:36 PM PST by HiJinx (I can see Mexico from the back porch...)
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To: JimRed

They seem to work well in Turkey,Greece,ROK,and Israel.
(Saw it 1st-hand while stationed on the DMZ.)

I guess they’re all ‘uncivilized’ nations.


36 posted on 12/16/2010 12:33:39 PM PST by WOBBLY BOB ( "I don't want the majority if we don't stand for something"- Jim Demint)
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To: jazusamo

BTT!

Wake up America!


37 posted on 12/16/2010 12:34:35 PM PST by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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To: jazusamo

This is not a new problem. The GOP had all 3 Houses for several years. What did they do? Not much. One of the many reasons I do not call myself Republican anymore. (I call myself “a limited-government independent”.)


38 posted on 12/16/2010 12:37:46 PM PST by Teacher317 (really?)
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To: jazusamo
Babeu lamented the murder of a U.S. Border Patrol agent on Tuesday at the hands of “bandits” – illegal aliens in the U.S. who steal from cartel members who sneak drugs into the United States.

LOL. The state run media described the killers as 'bandits who prey on illegal aliens'.

Its safest to assume they are always lying, any occasional truth telling on their part must be unintentional.

39 posted on 12/16/2010 12:37:58 PM PST by skeeter
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To: jazusamo
It's criminal that Obama and Napolitano ignore Sheriffs that are in the middle of the fight to protect Americans.

Obama and Napolitano are continuing the Bush policy.

40 posted on 12/16/2010 12:42:35 PM PST by Labyrinthos
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To: edcoil
“Is it the law or policy stopping this sheriff from doing his job? If law he should help change it, if policy then the failure is his fault.”

My guess is it is the law and not policy since it is pretty hard to control the border when the county line is seventy (70) miles from the border. Pinal County is NOT on the border. One County and one Indian reservation in between. As for changing the law, have you heard of SB1070? Babeu is a big proponent. Sorry but your facts are wrong.

41 posted on 12/16/2010 12:44:04 PM PST by Tupelo
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To: jazusamo
I believe the American people are being told little to nothing regarding our southern border. I believe there is a cover-up at the federal and national media level which offers so little truth, that we may as well be listening to a foreign news source which is UN or Communist funded.

I have strong opinions when I heard, what I hear, which is small amounts of information regarding what is actually taking place. This reminds me of how little has been shared with Americans in relation to 911. The only way Americans can be fooled is withhold information from the American public. They (politicians and media) make it easy to make the public think they are here to inform and help our nation survive. Yet truth be told the majority of politicians and national media work to bury this nation.

I believe the Pinal County Sheriff Paul Babeu is a person of honor, who is being ignored by the politicians who control Americans along the border regions, forcing the LE of the border regions to face being removed and possible federal charges if they (the LEs) attempt to do what is right and proper for this nation's citizens, by serving, protecting and defending.

This attitude by politicians, judges, lawyers to protect those who are invading this nation drives a wedge between LE and those who protect the invaders and our nation's citizens. I believe this is by design. Not a conspiracy but by design, NTL. Law Enforcement is frustrated, and I do not blame them. When you do your job correctly and the politicians, judges, and lawyers work to undo the good work done by our LEOs, wouldn't you be frustrated too?

There are good and bad in LE, but the overwhelming majority try to uphold their oaths to the public. Can anyone think the majority of our politicians, judges, and lawyers uphold their oaths to the citizens of this nation?

I apologize for the rant. Sometimes things need saying. I realize everyone here is informed, yet there are too many who remain uninformed. I pray there are solutions. Any thoughts of what can be done legally? And I will agree, maybe there is no legal solutions, except the ones contained within our Declaration of Independence and Constitution. I pray though, there will be another way. God, could you pick up the phone?

42 posted on 12/16/2010 12:51:35 PM PST by no-to-illegals (Please God, Bless and Protect Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: skeeter

Yep, I picked up on that too. She probably got that from the sheriff and figured maybe he knew what he was talking about.


43 posted on 12/16/2010 12:54:59 PM PST by jazusamo (His [Obama's] political base---the young, the left and the thoughtless: Thomas Sowell)
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To: Labyrinthos

Yep, but it’s still criminal.


44 posted on 12/16/2010 12:56:18 PM PST by jazusamo (His [Obama's] political base---the young, the left and the thoughtless: Thomas Sowell)
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To: skeeter

“The state run media described the killers as ‘bandits who prey on illegal aliens’.”

Riiight. That car had several hundred pounds of marijauna in it. But the driver was probably here illegal, so the media can say they didn’t lie.
Except by omission.


45 posted on 12/16/2010 12:56:56 PM PST by Tupelo
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To: AuntB

Good to see you back!


46 posted on 12/16/2010 12:58:37 PM PST by no-to-illegals (Please God, Bless and Protect Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: hoosierham
A fence is worthless without armed men to stop it from being destroyed.

Depends on the fence...

This fence is in Israel. Maybe we could pay them to give us some lessons. Nah, that would make too much sense.

47 posted on 12/16/2010 1:00:06 PM PST by upchuck (When excerpting please use the entire 300 words we are allowed. No more one or two sentence posts!)
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To: jazusamo

Get a CLUE, sheriff. Hussein is going to do NOTHING to annoy 40 million future democrat voters and welfare recipients.


48 posted on 12/16/2010 1:00:06 PM PST by Oldpuppymax
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To: upchuck
Our technical people also have equipment, which is helping, in the area. The real problem is (imho), there are too many crossing illegally and thus far the politicians have impeded the efforts, by LE, to employ our military effectively.
49 posted on 12/16/2010 1:06:26 PM PST by no-to-illegals (Please God, Bless and Protect Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: no-to-illegals

Very well said. The few that do uphold their oaths like Babeu and Arpaio and there are many others have to fight the powers that be as well as the criminals. Look at the fiasco of the Holder/Obama fight against AZ 1070, they should be congratulating the governor, legislators and the people for enacting it but no, the turkeys in Washington have an agenda.

Hopefully the present makeup of SCOTUS will shoot down Obama on this if it gets to them . If we lose a conservative on the court before it gets to them we’re in trouble.

I thought it was a great rant. :-)


50 posted on 12/16/2010 1:09:30 PM PST by jazusamo (His [Obama's] political base---the young, the left and the thoughtless: Thomas Sowell)
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