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Food Storage Shortage Risk Emerging (Prepper Ping!)
http://www.istockanalyst.com/article/viewarticle/articleid/4735570 ^ | December 10, 2010

Posted on 12/16/2010 3:08:07 PM PST by Red in Blue PA

Next, I called Mountain House. They report this current level of demand is 'unprecedented' in their history. On top of that, they feel they usually can anticipate spikes like this given macro events, but this time the arrival and intensity of the demand caught them by surprise. They've already stopped selling #10 cans on their own site, and are limiting inventory to their top dealers (like The Ready Store and Nitro-Pak).

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They're working overtime to meet demand as best they can, but I sensed they are concerned about their ability to do so if this spike doesn't abate soon. I asked both Mountain House and The Ready Store if the new demand was coming from a particular sector or new buyer (e.g. a military contract). Their answer was no; both observe that it's caused by a groundswell among general consumers who are increasingly concerned about the economy and future stability. Nitro-Pak's website statement appears to corroborate this.

So what does this mean? First off, what this is *not* is an all-out shortage. No one is thinks it's time to panic here. Perhaps this demand spike will dissipate soon. Unexpected surges in orders have happened before (though not of this magnitude), and things eventually returned to normal. Orders are still being filled, just more slowly than before.

But the combined suddenness, intensity, and unforeseen nature of the demand is unique and worth noting by the prudent individual. And if it persists - or increases - current prices and availability may be at risk. Hence this alert: if you've been planning to start or add to your food stores with pre-packaged offerings, you should consider accelerating your timeline.

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1 posted on 12/16/2010 3:08:10 PM PST by Red in Blue PA
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To: Red in Blue PA

That’s why its important to know how to do your own canning and drying.

Root crops that can stay in the ground over the winter are an often overlooked option.


2 posted on 12/16/2010 3:10:53 PM PST by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: Red in Blue PA

I’m not discounting that this is happening, but this looks very similar to what happened in the gun and ammo industry right after the 2008 election. Prices skyrocketed and widespread shortages ensued, now things are completely back to normal.


3 posted on 12/16/2010 3:11:29 PM PST by Obadiah (BHO -- out the door in 4!)
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To: Red in Blue PA
Glenn Beck and his echos?

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4 posted on 12/16/2010 3:11:55 PM PST by Cyber Ninja (Live and Let Live; is not working...)
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To: Obadiah

There is an important distinction to be made however. With guns and ammo, people were stocking up because they were genuinely afraid they would not be able to purchase them because of forthcoming regulations.

This is just food.


5 posted on 12/16/2010 3:13:20 PM PST by Red in Blue PA (Planning on using 911? Google "Brittany Zimmerman")
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To: Obadiah

They’re not back to normal — the price of primers spiked and has stayed high. For awhile you couldn’t get them at any price, but the price has stuck at around $35 a thousand when you could get them at a gun show before for around $20.


6 posted on 12/16/2010 3:14:35 PM PST by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: Red in Blue PA

Glad I stocked over the past two years.


7 posted on 12/16/2010 3:15:51 PM PST by ladyvet
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To: Cyber Ninja

Glenn Beck and his echos?


I think that’s part of it.

But I think some of it people are preparing for the coming inflation also. My friends are starting to see the future in their grocery bills. Others are asking me if I would invite them over for canning sessions.

This past summer we saw many new veg gardens in our area.

I’ve always been a fan of ‘victory gardens’. My main garden is now refered to as the ‘John Galt’ garden.


8 posted on 12/16/2010 3:19:23 PM PST by maine yankee
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To: Red in Blue PA

This is just food...

that Obama and his admin are now regulating, including personal gardens...


9 posted on 12/16/2010 3:23:51 PM PST by Freddd (CNN is down to Three Hundred Thousand viewers. But they worked for it.)
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To: Red in Blue PA

“With guns and ammo, people were stocking up because they were genuinely afraid they would not be able to purchase them because of forthcoming regulations.

This is just food.”

A lot of folks believe there will come a time when we can’t buy food either:

16And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
17And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
(Rev 13:16-17)


10 posted on 12/16/2010 3:28:20 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: Red in Blue PA

I do not see that 1 or 2 specialty freeze dried food producers indicate a food shortage, yet. Our grocery stores are in great shape on the shelf and I see scattered price increases, but no great earth shaking issue now.

IF S.510 which is tied into the latest legislation monstrosity that the “Lame-brained Lame Ducks” are forcing become law, than all bets are off. FDA takeover of food and some commie bureaucraps controling that will give us real hungry people. Hungry people do desperate things. Washington should think hard about what they ask for.

The results might be much worse than pitchforks and torches, or for that matter tar & feathers. Real hunger is a game changer, something that unnecessary can only happen with Statist actions.


11 posted on 12/16/2010 3:32:01 PM PST by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one.)
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To: Red in Blue PA
This is speculation, but I'd bet that the wealthy are stockpiling. Freeze dried foods are many times more expensive than ordinary dried foods like rice, pasta, grain, etc. Who can afford to stockpile freeze dried foods in large quantities? The wealthy.

P.S. I'm not interested in debating the meaning of "wealthy." My point is that monied persons, who are presumably better educated, probably see danger on the horizon. It's not just us poor crazies anymore.

12 posted on 12/16/2010 3:33:04 PM PST by matt1234 (0bama's bunker phase: Nov. 2010 - Jan. 2013)
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To: matt1234
This is speculation, but I'd bet that the wealthy are stockpiling.

There was a piece in USA Today a few months back about the wealthy buying underground bunkers at a record rate.
13 posted on 12/16/2010 3:35:12 PM PST by Red in Blue PA (Planning on using 911? Google "Brittany Zimmerman")
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To: Red in Blue PA

I’m not a fan of dehydrated “survival food”.
I stocked up at the grocery and club stores, enough for a good 6 months. We now only replace what we use. It’s amazing the cost of these replacement items, compared to what was spent last year stocking up. We saved a ton of money by stocking up, and are set for a good 6 months if SHTF.


14 posted on 12/16/2010 3:38:24 PM PST by Tagurit (Are your pigs fed, watered and ready to fly?)
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To: Texas Fossil
"Our grocery stores are in great shape on the shelf ..."

Wait 1-3 days if the SHTF.

15 posted on 12/16/2010 3:42:31 PM PST by JustaDumbBlonde (Don't wish doom on your enemies. Plan it.)
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To: Texas Fossil
Our grocery stores are in great shape on the shelf and I see scattered price increases

When TSHTF, the trampling you saw in stores on Black Friday will be a fond memory.
16 posted on 12/16/2010 3:44:03 PM PST by Red in Blue PA (Planning on using 911? Google "Brittany Zimmerman")
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To: Texas Fossil

We have a friend who owns a grocery store, he says the stores only have 2 weeks worth of merchandise they depend on truck deliveries in order to restock, once the two weeks worth is gone its gone.
When we have a snow storm warning the shelves in the grcery stores here empty out quickly the only reason you think your stores are in great shape is because they are receiving truck deliveries regularly.


17 posted on 12/16/2010 3:46:31 PM PST by okokie (Obama's not my mama)
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To: Red in Blue PA; Red_Devil 232; HungarianGypsy

FOOD PING


18 posted on 12/16/2010 3:51:02 PM PST by tubebender (If you can not read, this thread will tell you how to get help)
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To: Red in Blue PA

Back in ‘99 there was the Y2K boogeyman that no one was completely certain would or would not affect us. I didn’t know and when I saw .gov hedging their bets with food and supplies stored away in secure bunkers I figured I might as well lay in some extra stuff too.

Well, as we all know, Y2K was a fizzle that a few people used to try to tell me that I had been silly. I didn’t think so. Over the intervening years I’ve used some of that stuff and replaced much of it. Since it doesn’t take a fortune-teller to see that this country is probably in for some pretty rough times I’ve kicked myself in the rear and expanded my stores.

I’m too old to try to run away if things do go bad so I’ll just have to sit here, try to look like I’m as poor as everyone else and be prepared to shoot anyone who tries to steal my stuff. That’s not a very good choice and I’d like to be able to just invite the ‘golden horde’ in for coffee and cake but even a cursory study of similar situations in other times and places leads me to believe I’d better be ready to protect myself and my family.


19 posted on 12/16/2010 3:52:07 PM PST by oldfart (Obama nation = abomination. Think about it!)
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To: okokie
the only reason you think your stores are in great shape is because they are receiving truck deliveries regularly.

Correct. And most of the restocking effort is unnoticed because it happens at night when the store is closed.

20 posted on 12/16/2010 3:55:41 PM PST by matt1234 (0bama's bunker phase: Nov. 2010 - Jan. 2013)
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To: The Comedian

ping


21 posted on 12/16/2010 3:59:24 PM PST by null and void (We are now in day 693 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: Red in Blue PA

Innerestin’.


22 posted on 12/16/2010 3:59:41 PM PST by El Sordo (The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen.)
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To: Tagurit

Double it. At least double it.


23 posted on 12/16/2010 4:02:03 PM PST by null and void (We are now in day 693 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: ChocChipCookie

Ping.


24 posted on 12/16/2010 4:02:58 PM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: ladyvet

Stocking your pantry isn’t that difficult. Store what you eat, eat what you store. Rotate your food, eating the oldest first.

We mark the month and year of purchase on the cans, boxes and jars.

You don’t need to buy freeze dried food from a supplier. Stock up on the things you actually use when it is on sale.

And learning to can, dry and freeze your own is a very good thing to do. Here is a link to an article by Jackie Clay from Backwoods Home magazine, about building and stocking your own pantry. http://www.backwoodshome.com/articles2/clay125.html

It was by reading Jackie’s articles that I got the courage and knowledge to use a pressure canner, to can low acid foods like vegetables and meats. High acid foods are canned in a water bath, and I had been doing that for years.


25 posted on 12/16/2010 4:03:17 PM PST by passionfruit (When illegals become legal, even they won't do the work Americans won't do)
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To: ladyvet

Stocking your pantry isn’t that difficult. Store what you eat, eat what you store. Rotate your food, eating the oldest first.

We mark the month and year of purchase on the cans, boxes and jars.

You don’t need to buy freeze dried food from a supplier. Stock up on the things you actually use when it is on sale.

And learning to can, dry and freeze your own is a very good thing to do. Here is a link to an article by Jackie Clay from Backwoods Home magazine, about building and stocking your own pantry. http://www.backwoodshome.com/articles2/clay125.html

It was by reading Jackie’s articles that I got the courage and knowledge to use a pressure canner, to can low acid foods like vegetables and meats. High acid foods are canned in a water bath, and I had been doing that for years.


26 posted on 12/16/2010 4:03:17 PM PST by passionfruit (When illegals become legal, even they won't do the work Americans won't do)
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To: oldfart
Well, as we all know, Y2K was a fizzle...

Thank the legions of computer programmers, both PC and mainframe, who spent many a day fixing the programs to not crash when the century changed. A someone who worked a whole year on banking programs I can attest that without that work all hell would have happened.

It is an example of how we can address a problem, if we recognize it in advance and actually plan for it. Not the stupid stuff our government(s) does today.

27 posted on 12/16/2010 4:05:57 PM PST by ProudFossil
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To: okokie

JIT management...


28 posted on 12/16/2010 4:07:36 PM PST by EBH ( Whether you eat your bread or see it vanish into a looter's stomach, is an absolute.)
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To: passionfruit

That’s a great magazine, been reading it for the past couple of years. I bought all the supplies and books for canning but I have not had the courage to do it yet.

Can I mail you when I’m ready to try this next summer if I have questions?


29 posted on 12/16/2010 4:09:22 PM PST by ladyvet
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To: null and void
Yup, saw it on a duplicate thread.

Well, Michelle keeps saying American children are too fat.

That won't be a problem much longer.


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

30 posted on 12/16/2010 4:13:46 PM PST by The Comedian (Government: Saving people from freedom since time immemorial.)
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To: maine yankee

>>But I think some of it people are preparing for the coming inflation also.<<

Part of the Bernanke plan is to convince inflation is just around the corner, causing them to buy stuff.

It’s working with me. I buy a lot of junk silver.


31 posted on 12/16/2010 4:15:19 PM PST by RobRoy (The US Today: Revelation 18:4)
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To: passionfruit

We have done exactly as you say. We took money from investment profits and bought cases of canned goods, big bags of flour, sugar and brown rice. We bought what we normally consume.

We have very good cost records and are treating it as an investment rather than emergency stock. Given the anticipated inflation, the investment yield should be significant. It is portfolio allocation diversification


32 posted on 12/16/2010 4:15:30 PM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. N.C. D.E. +12 .....( History is a process, not an event ))
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To: Red in Blue PA

>>There was a piece in USA Today a few months back about the wealthy buying underground bunkers at a record rate.<<

I must confess, that if I were forced to stay in a suburban area, I’d seriously consider that. But I just bought a farm in rural Kentucky instead. And I can grow more than just mushrooms there. :)


33 posted on 12/16/2010 4:17:51 PM PST by RobRoy (The US Today: Revelation 18:4)
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To: JustaDumbBlonde

>>Wait 1-3 days if the SHTF.<<

I assume you mean HOURS.

http://www.grandpappy.info/honehour.htm


34 posted on 12/16/2010 4:18:58 PM PST by RobRoy (The US Today: Revelation 18:4)
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To: RobRoy

The downside (BIG downside) to this plan was that you needed to GET TO these bunkers in the first place at a specified location.

Not an easy task if everyone is hooping in their cars at the same time.

(Not to mention they cost about $5 million or so if memory serves)


35 posted on 12/16/2010 4:23:35 PM PST by Red in Blue PA (Planning on using 911? Google "Brittany Zimmerman")
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To: Red in Blue PA

The biggest “fear” I have, regarding my Kentucky property is that when the SHTF I am not there, and it would take multiple tanks of gas to get there (not possible).

It is not a real fear, however. It has been clear from the git-go that the Lord has something planned, regarding us and that property. Too many “coincidences”.


36 posted on 12/16/2010 4:26:35 PM PST by RobRoy (The US Today: Revelation 18:4)
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To: Obadiah

Ok, but why would this be happening with food? Someone out there is talking to family and friends and building a case... has anyone heard it? In short, what’s the word of mouth?


37 posted on 12/16/2010 4:26:43 PM PST by GOPJ (Sharpton wants Limbaugh off the air- if you don't hate liberals yet, you're not paying attention.)
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To: RobRoy

A link From that page:

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread490340/pg1


38 posted on 12/16/2010 4:27:28 PM PST by Red in Blue PA (Planning on using 911? Google "Brittany Zimmerman")
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To: Red in Blue PA

Yes, I actually read that a couple weeks ago. Very interesting stuff. And not really all that surprising if one understands human nature.

It actually brings up one of the basic differences between conservatives and liberals. Conservatives think that man is basically evil, hence our need for salvation to spend eternity in the presence of our Savior. Liberals think man is basically good and therefore believe a purely communist world of mutual love, respect, and sharing, unhindered by private property rights, etc. is the true utopia that evolution accidentally afforded us.

You can see the difference in the way both sides respond to events and government actions.


39 posted on 12/16/2010 4:32:37 PM PST by RobRoy (The US Today: Revelation 18:4)
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To: Red in Blue PA

I know there is no problem, because they are still using corn for fuel.

The Government wouldnt do that if there was a problem./s/


40 posted on 12/16/2010 4:34:59 PM PST by Venturer
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To: Venturer

41 posted on 12/16/2010 4:42:30 PM PST by Red in Blue PA (Planning on using 911? Google "Brittany Zimmerman")
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To: ladyvet

Absolutely!


42 posted on 12/16/2010 4:45:18 PM PST by passionfruit (When illegals become legal, even they won't do the work Americans won't do)
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To: passionfruit

One of my favorite magazines.


43 posted on 12/16/2010 4:48:44 PM PST by stickandrudder (Another Bitter-Clinger! God-Family-Tribe)
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To: GOPJ

“Ok, but why would this be happening with food? Someone out there is talking to family and friends and building a case... has anyone heard it? In short, what’s the word of mouth?”

The reasons mentioned already on the thread such as regulation of Food, FDA, and the coming “tough times” as Beck would say including the evidence of fascists.

But there have been many unusual floods around the globe and other natural disasters which is going to affect food production. Some people such as Gerald Celente and some articles even refer to it as the coming food shortage.

There is much more information in the article along with hypertext links.

http://www.istockanalyst.com/article/viewarticle/articleid/4735570

What Should I Do?

http://www.chrismartenson.com/page/what-should-i-do

What Should I Do?: The Basics of Resilience (Part 3 – Storing Food)

http://www.chrismartenson.com/blog/what-should-i-do-basics-resilience-part-3-storing-food/42765


44 posted on 12/16/2010 4:48:53 PM PST by Whenifhow
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To: cripplecreek

canning, drying, root crops that can overwinter

Excellent choices. A fall garden can extend the growing season even in more intemperate climates using cloches and row covers, plus plants like cabbage, onions, radishes, chard, beets, kale and others have two advantages-

They can grow long after tender plants like tomatoes and beans are done, and for those that care they are high in anti-oxidants as well as being good to eat.


45 posted on 12/16/2010 4:54:05 PM PST by handmade
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To: bert

Be careful with the brown rice and long term storage. It has a tendency to go rancid where as white rice, packed correctly can last 25 years or longer :)

Just a tip from a long time prepper!


46 posted on 12/16/2010 5:01:20 PM PST by eXe (Si vis pacem, para bellum)
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To: okokie; Red in Blue PA

HR2749/S.510 could cause what you prep for. I pray daily that the “lame ducks” will not pass this crap.

If they do, we must repeal it, even if it is over the veto of the Resident.

The sky is not falling yet. We could have a financial collapse, engineered by the Globalist B___ards who support Obozo. There is no reason that if that happens that things have to be that bad in Texas.

My family has farmed in Haskell County since the 1880’s. We have cattle, wheat storage, wild turkeys & hogs and can be totally self-sufficient if needed. That would not happen immediately. We have the ability to kill/process/package our own beef and game. (private butcher shop & smoking pit) We always have a garden & that may be larger this year, but still no panic.

I normally keep 50+ lbs. of flour, 15-20 lbs. of rice, and a fully pantry. That is not prepping, just what we normally do.

I sold “hard white winter wheat” to some of the Y2K crowd. They were really nice people and well educated, but they totally mis-calculated the outcome of that event.

The past does not predict the future, but I feel confident we will eat. And I have a lot of good neighbors.


47 posted on 12/16/2010 5:31:11 PM PST by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one.)
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To: handmade

I’m growing several pots of spinich on the sunporch now. I also have some broccoli and pepper plants out there. the broccoli and pepper won’t do a lot over the winter but they’ll take off for an early start in the spring.


48 posted on 12/16/2010 5:31:42 PM PST by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: okokie

By the way, we lived in Piedmont OK for 7 years and loved OK.

The people in TX and OK have a lot more in common than most will admit. (I am not a sports fan)

My daughter is an OU grad. (And not a leftie) She and her husband live in Hutto, TX.

Hang in there my FRiend.


49 posted on 12/16/2010 5:34:51 PM PST by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one.)
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To: okokie

And if there is a truck stike as back in the 70s those shelves are empty within a couple three days- you are right on track.


50 posted on 12/16/2010 5:57:02 PM PST by handmade
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