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Is This Our America Anymore?
Creators.com ^ | December 16, 2010 | Patrick J. Buchanan

Posted on 12/16/2010 5:04:13 PM PST by triumphant values

Buried in the Oct. 30 Washington Post was a bland headline: "Report Points to Faster Recovery in Jobs for Immigrants."

The story, however, contained social dynamite that explains the rage of Americans who are smeared as nativists and xenophobes for demanding a timeout on immigration.

In the April-May-June quarter, foreign-born workers in the U.S. gained 656,000 jobs. And native-born Americans lost 1.2 million.

From July 1, 2009, to June 30, 2010, foreign-born Hispanics gained 98,000 construction jobs. Native-born Hispanics lost 133,000. Black and white U.S. construction workers lost 511,000 jobs.

According to the Center for Immigration Studies, from Jan. 1, 2000, to Jan. 1, 2010, 13.1 million immigrants, legal and illegal, entered the United States, a decade in which America lost 1 million jobs.

From 2008 and 2009, the figures are startling. In 24 months, 2.4 million immigrants, legal and illegal, arrived, as U.S. citizens were losing 8.6 million jobs.

Query: Why are we importing a million-plus workers a year when 17 million Americans can't find work? Whose country is this?

Why do we not declare a moratorium on all immigration, until our unemployment rate falls to 6 or 5 percent? Charity begins at home. Ought we not take care of our own jobless first before we invite in strangers to take their jobs?

According to the Pew Hispanic Center, each year between 300,000 and 400,000 "anchor babies" are born to illegal aliens. These newborns are entitled to citizenship, free health care and education, welfare and food stamps

Their parents — almost all are poor or working class — rarely pay any state or federal income tax.

How long can we keep granting citizenship and full social welfare benefits to the children of people who break our laws and break into our country or overstay their visas? How long can we keep bringing in workers to take jobs when our unemployment rate hovers around 10 percent?

Again, according to the Pew Center, the number of anchor babies here now is about 4 million. Add to that 3 million to 4 million born each decade, and it will not be long before Colorado, Nevada, Arizona and Texas resemble California, which is on the brink of default.

If no action is taken, the Republican Party will soon be unable, even in wave elections, to win the presidency, as it won nothing and indeed lost state legislative seats in California in 2010.

The border will disappear, and America will be a geographical expression, not a country anymore.

Legal scholar William Quirk describes a new phenomenon in the invasion of America: "maternity tourism." Pregnant Asian women pay $15,000 to agents to ensure they are in the United States when their child is born so that they can return home secure in the knowledge he or she will be a U.S. citizen with the right to a U.S.-taxpayer subsidized education in college.

Though the nation has awakened to the threat to social cohesion and national solvency, Harry Reid is still attempting to ram through a lame-duck Senate an amnesty for illegal aliens up to age 30 who claim they were brought here before they were 16, have a high school diploma or GED and state that they intend to go to college within six years.

An estimated 2.1 million illegal aliens would be amnestied, put on a path to citizenship, and be eligible for student loans and more.

According to Alabama's Jeff Sessions, ranking Republican on the Senate Judiciary Committee:

"Aliens granted amnesty by the DREAM Act will have the legal right to petition for entry of their family members, including their adult brothers and sisters and the parents who illegally brought or sent them to the United States, once they become naturalized U.S. citizens. In less than a decade, this reality could easily double or triple the 2.1 million green cards that will be immediately distributed as a result of the DREAM Act."

Lawbreaking would be rewarded. Chain migration would continue. A permanent powerful magnet would be provided to all foreigners to sneak into the United States and be sure to bring the kids.

As Rep. Dana Rohrabacher argues, one effect of the DREAM Act will be to move illegals applying to college ahead of many Americans, as 80 percent of illegals are Hispanics and eligible for affirmative action.

U.S. soldiers coming home from Afghanistan will "sit in back," as Obama puts it, when competing against amnestied illegals.


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When Reid's bill passes, said Wong, "the young people of the DREAM Act movement will go on to accomplish and do great things. ... You will go on to become lawyers, teachers, doctors and members of the U.S. Congress to replace those old white men ... ."

If the DREAM Act passes, Wong is right about whose time has come and gone.

Imagine a white professor saying this about those of Asian or Mexican ethnicity.

1 posted on 12/16/2010 5:04:18 PM PST by triumphant values
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To: triumphant values

I was having a bad day with all the news of the day and now this article! Now Im about wits end. WTF?


2 posted on 12/16/2010 5:06:30 PM PST by GoCards (Why me? Why not me?)
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To: triumphant values

America: where ‘guest workers’ are a higher class of citizen than ‘mere peon*’.

*formerly known as Citizen.


3 posted on 12/16/2010 5:08:01 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: triumphant values

Why are we surprised? Obama said he was going to fundamentally change this country.


4 posted on 12/16/2010 5:09:50 PM PST by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannolis. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: triumphant values

No, it is not ours anymore and we have our government to thank. Our laws and our public policy favor and benefit foreigners and non-citizens to the detriment of American citizens. We are at the bottom of the government’s list of priorities, except when it comes to donating what we have earned to the big pile of tax revenue that the government turns around and gives to those who haven’t earned it. OUR GOVERNMENT NO LONGER SERVES OUR BEST INTERESTS. WE ARE NO LONGER REPRESENTED.


5 posted on 12/16/2010 5:12:45 PM PST by La Lydia
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To: Don Corleone

Buchanan was right in 1992 and he has been proven correct today regarding massive immigration from third world countries, both legal and illegal. I’m not confident the tide can even be reversed anymore.


6 posted on 12/16/2010 5:13:59 PM PST by Comparative Advantage
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To: Don Corleone

Every election, and every vote will save it. Less than that and we will lose it. We lost California.


7 posted on 12/16/2010 5:14:09 PM PST by stillfree? (NPR; TheNext Acorn.)
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To: La Lydia

You nailed it.


8 posted on 12/16/2010 5:14:59 PM PST by Inyo-Mono (Had God not driven man from the Garden of Eden the Sierra Club surely would have.)
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To: OneWingedShark
Face it, a great percentage of the problems in the US from finance to health issues begins with the word "illegals".

Sorry, I still don't get why it is tolerated.

9 posted on 12/16/2010 5:15:39 PM PST by AGreatPer (Voting for the crazy conservative gave us Ronald Reagan....Ann Coulter)
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To: stillfree?

California was lost when a judge overturned Prop 87. We have treasonous judges throughout this nation. We are probably sunk. At least I have the satisfaction of knowing that I will probably be dead by 2050, if not sooner.


10 posted on 12/16/2010 5:16:25 PM PST by Comparative Advantage
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To: Don Corleone
Why are we surprised? Obama said he was going to fundamentally change this country.

This has been going on since long before Obama, and will most likely continue long after he leaves office.

Gramsci called for a "long march through the institutions" and the Frankfurt school put it into practice. It was mostly complete by the end of the 1960s.

Everything from the Methodist church to the local school board, to the Pentagon is thoroughly infected with the liberal virus. I believe it to be of the autoimmune variety.

11 posted on 12/16/2010 5:17:31 PM PST by triumphant values (Never criticize that to your right.)
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To: triumphant values
What to do!?! Write more words, I guess.

12 posted on 12/16/2010 5:19:25 PM PST by I see my hands (How's that ballot box working out for you?)
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To: triumphant values

When a nation becomes a safety valve for the world’s problems, as America has become, one can only let off steam, as Americans do.


13 posted on 12/16/2010 5:19:36 PM PST by no-to-illegals (Please God, Bless and Protect Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: triumphant values

“You will go on to become lawyers, teachers, doctors and members of the U.S. Congress to replace those old white men ... .”

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Someone should investigate how we got to this point in our immigration policy. You can bet that the insiduous hand of the UN plays a significant role in this destruction of the West.

Why is it that there is only migration from 3rd world nations to the West and why is it that only the West has to lose its identity and accept that of its immigrants?


14 posted on 12/16/2010 5:21:13 PM PST by 353FMG
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To: 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; 7.62 x 51mm; ..

Ping!


15 posted on 12/16/2010 5:23:37 PM PST by HiJinx (I can see Mexico from the back porch...)
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To: Comparative Advantage

I think as the lot of Americans continues to deteriorate you will see a hardening of resolve; five years ago a law like Arizona’s would have been unthinkable. More states are passing them (so they don’t become banana republics filled with unproductive illegals producing only children and consuming everything in sight). Nobody even publicly defends them anymore, since it is now obvious that they weren’t let in to do work Americans wouldn’t do, but were to steal those jobs for much less compensation.


16 posted on 12/16/2010 5:24:12 PM PST by kearnyirish2
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To: triumphant values

There should be no work visas granted to any foreigner while unemployment is so high.


17 posted on 12/16/2010 5:24:13 PM PST by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: I see my hands
What to do!?! Write more words, I guess.

Yeah, pretty much. Innoculate your family and your immediate community as best you can, and ride it out.

I consider the Washington/New York axis occupied territory and try to shield me and mine from them as much as I can, financially, culturally and spiritually. It's the best I can do.

18 posted on 12/16/2010 5:24:57 PM PST by triumphant values (Never criticize that to your right.)
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To: triumphant values


Is This Our America Anymore?

Of course not.
We let in our sworn enemies, be they Muslims or Hispanics swearing
vengence on the Yankees.

As Reagan said (IIRC) a country without a border is not a country.


19 posted on 12/16/2010 5:30:55 PM PST by VOA
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To: AGreatPer

>Face it, a great percentage of the problems in the US from finance to health issues begins with the word “illegals”.
>Sorry, I still don’t get why it is tolerated.

What I don’t get is why we aren’t implementing a border-security policy which involves the phrase “interlocking fields of fire”...


20 posted on 12/16/2010 5:31:45 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: triumphant values

Americans are fed up. No surprise! Congress approval rating at 13%

Congress’s approval rating has dipped so low, it seems like the only people in the country who approve of the beleaguered pols are their moms, according to a new poll.

A mere 13 percent of Americans approve of the way Congress is handling its responsibilities, a historic low fueled by a deep drop of support among Democrats.

The Gallup poll of 1,019 people — taken between Friday and Sunday as President Obama and Congress hammered out a deal on the Bush tax cuts — found an overwhelming 83 percent of respondents disapproved of the way Congress was going about its business. Four percent had no opinion.
The previous lowest approval rating was 14 percent in July 2008, when the United States was dealing with a crashing economy and record-high gas prices.

The most significant drop was among disappointed Democrats, whose approval ratings plunged from 29 percent in November to 16 percent now.

The November survey was taken after the midterm elections, when the GOP won control of the House, leading pollsters to theorize that the drop in Democrats’ support stems from frustration over the deal to extend Bush tax cuts for the wealthy.

Just think what will happen if they pass the Dream Act.

Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/no_surprise_congress_approval_rating_8DfN7XDTqpy7COkLvPbOGN#ixzz18KMbe5q5


21 posted on 12/16/2010 5:33:28 PM PST by moonshinner_09
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To: triumphant values; All

Buchanan again raising many valid points and displaying a better understanding of economics than the tenured-government paid-university economists who have no clue of what is going on.

Of course, I expect this thread to be full of Liberal, Globalist, Open Borders, Free Trade Communist “Buchanan s—ks” posts. However, Buchanan has been right on the economics all along...and the supporters of tenured-government paid economists cannot challenge Buchanan anymore


22 posted on 12/16/2010 5:33:54 PM PST by UCFRoadWarrior (Whenever something is "Global"...it means its bad for America)
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To: triumphant values

My head just wants to explode

If anyone wants to know why they can’t get a job, show them this.

On top of this, the exporting of jobs offshore shrunk the total jobs available. Thank you nafta, walmart and the clintons


23 posted on 12/16/2010 5:34:58 PM PST by sten
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To: OneWingedShark

I suspect Americans do not desire to keep their country. The illegals protest in mass, Americans protest none to little.


24 posted on 12/16/2010 5:35:13 PM PST by no-to-illegals (Please God, Bless and Protect Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: triumphant values

This is why we’re screwed. This is why English-speaking men can’t locate work. As pro business as I am I’m not willing to sell fellow Americans out. I’ve heard all the arguments as to why this is happening too. But when there’s a booming Hispanic grocery store in EVERY small town then you just have to conclude that our businesses would rather hire a work-for-10 hour/pay for 6-hour illegal. We have chosen to succumb to this. How disgusting it is.


25 posted on 12/16/2010 5:35:46 PM PST by februus
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To: sten

you forgot Bush 1.


26 posted on 12/16/2010 5:36:10 PM PST by no-to-illegals (Please God, Bless and Protect Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: triumphant values
Oh, personally I'm Galting. If the S doesn't HTF within the next five months I should have self sufficiency in place.

When I asked "what to do?" i was making reference to the USA and the sad answer is more words.


27 posted on 12/16/2010 5:37:31 PM PST by I see my hands (How's that ballot box working out for you?)
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To: I see my hands

a once great land and a great people once only had words left ..... I think it was Rome.


28 posted on 12/16/2010 5:39:19 PM PST by no-to-illegals (Please God, Bless and Protect Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: 353FMG
Someone should investigate how we got to this point in our immigration policy. You can bet that the insiduous hand of the UN plays a significant role in this destruction of the West.

Well, that's certainly one of the more popular Conservative readings of the situation. But I have a slightly different one. Where is the UN headquartered? Where did Trotsky spend the winter of 1917? What have we seen over and over in the Wikileaks wires? Where did Soros set up shop?

I just read an article today that hundreds of millions of dollars for "reproductive planning" is being earmarked in the omnibus bill for distribution to foreign nations:

The omnibus also allocates $710 million for international family planning/reproductive health which provides funding to organizations that promote and perform abortion overseas.

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/omnibus-bill-includes-taxpayer-funded-abortions-dc_523462.html

Is it possible, just possible, that liberalism flows from the New York/Washington axis to much of the world and not the other way around?

I think a Trojan horse was rolled into this country a long time ago and we may have been focusing too much on the external.

29 posted on 12/16/2010 5:40:17 PM PST by triumphant values (Never criticize that to your right.)
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To: no-to-illegals
you forgot Bush 1.

And, Bush II... He wanted to create a "new America" - the same as "fundamentally changing" America...

THE "NEW AMERICAN"
..........<

We are now one of the largest Spanish-speaking nations in the world. We're a major source of Latin music, journalism and culture.

Just go to Miami, or San Antonio, Los Angeles, Chicago or West New York, New Jersey ... and close your eyes and listen. You could just as easily be in Santo Domingo or Santiago, or San Miguel de Allende.

For years our nation has debated this change -- some have praised it and others have resented it. By nominating me, my party has made a choice to welcome the new America.

Our future cannot be separated from the future of Latin America.

As I speak, we are celebrating the success of democracy in Mexico.

George Bush from a campaign speech in Miami, August 2000.

You can read the speech here.

Here is an excerpt of a good critique of that speech:

In equating our intimate historic bonds to our mother country and to Canada with our ties to Mexico, W. shows a staggering ignorance of the civilizational facts of life. The reason we are so close to Britain and Canada is that we share with them a common historical culture, language, literature, and legal system, as well as similar standards of behavior, expectations of public officials, and so on. My Bush Epiphany By Lawrence Auster

30 posted on 12/16/2010 5:53:37 PM PST by raybbr (Someone who invades another country is NOT an immigrant - illegal or otherwise.)
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To: raybbr

you are correct...my error...Thank You.


31 posted on 12/16/2010 5:55:40 PM PST by no-to-illegals (Please God, Bless and Protect Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: triumphant values

America is dead. Humans prefer slavery to freedom, even when the slave master (government) blatantly lies and defrauds them daily.


32 posted on 12/16/2010 5:55:52 PM PST by MichiganConservative (Terrorists don't commit genocide. That's what governments do.)
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To: februus
As pro business as I am I’m not willing to sell fellow Americans out.

That's because you're a patriot and don't worship at the altar of "The Market". There are some of us who realize a nation needs more than just cheap Ipods to continue to exist.

33 posted on 12/16/2010 5:58:00 PM PST by triumphant values (Never criticize that to your right.)
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To: triumphant values

“Our America?”
Remember that all Pat’s work is translated from German and his uncle died at Auschwitz.
Drum roll....
He fell out of the guard tower......


34 posted on 12/16/2010 6:06:05 PM PST by nkycincinnatikid
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To: nkycincinnatikid

I cannot help but be thankful Pat was never President, and Pat did advise Nixon. Maybe we need an IKE, or Harry.


35 posted on 12/16/2010 6:10:24 PM PST by no-to-illegals (Please God, Bless and Protect Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: februus
But when there’s a booming Hispanic grocery store in EVERY small town then you just have to conclude that our businesses would rather hire a work-for-10 hour/pay for 6-hour illegal.

And it's absolutely astonishing how quickly this took place. As late as the 1990s this problem was still localized to the Southwest and the Chicagoland area.

Now, just 15 years later, you can go to the most remote, hilltop town in North Carolina and come across a bustling fruteria.

36 posted on 12/16/2010 6:10:48 PM PST by triumphant values (Never criticize that to your right.)
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To: no-to-illegals

New Dealer Harry Truman over Pat? No thank you.


37 posted on 12/16/2010 6:17:05 PM PST by triumphant values (Never criticize that to your right.)
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To: 353FMG
Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965 (Hart-Celler Act abolished the National Origins Formula that had been in place in the United States since the Immigration Act of 1924. It was proposed by United States Representative Emanuel Celler of New York, co-sponsored by United States Senator Philip Hart of Michigan, and heavily supported by United States Senator Ted Kennedy of Massachusetts.
38 posted on 12/16/2010 6:17:22 PM PST by donna (Synonyms: Feminism, Marxism, Communism, Socialism, Fascism, Islam ism, Darwinism)
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To: no-to-illegals

Your idol Harrys folly with Stalin in Korea is still with us, be comforted. And Reagan, the Pope, and Kohl solved Europe after forty years.
I always Liked Ike, and unlike you, understand the impossible LBJ mess Nixon was willing to take on.


39 posted on 12/16/2010 6:22:24 PM PST by nkycincinnatikid
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To: triumphant values

The melting pot is a myth. It is insane to believe that the immigrants, illegal or otherwise are just going to give up the conditioning they received in their homeland.

I knew a guy that came from Yugoslavia by way of Germany. He’s a US citizen now. Total Leftist. Believes in socialized medicine, progressive income taxes, German-style education.

He votes.

We would be better off had he stayed in Germany.


40 posted on 12/16/2010 6:22:24 PM PST by MichiganConservative (Terrorists don't commit genocide. That's what governments do.)
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To: triumphant values
that was FDR you are thinking about...

Harry had the nerve to end WWII

41 posted on 12/16/2010 6:22:51 PM PST by no-to-illegals (Please God, Bless and Protect Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: nkycincinnatikid

Nixon did open up China and that worked out well.


42 posted on 12/16/2010 6:24:13 PM PST by no-to-illegals (Please God, Bless and Protect Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: no-to-illegals
that was FDR you are thinking about...

No, it's most certainly Truman I'm thinking about. Truman was a New Dealer who ran in 1948 on a nationalized health insurance platform.

43 posted on 12/16/2010 6:28:54 PM PST by triumphant values (Never criticize that to your right.)
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To: triumphant values

now are you thinking of Teddy, the one on Mt. Rushmore


44 posted on 12/16/2010 6:30:22 PM PST by no-to-illegals (Please God, Bless and Protect Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: triumphant values

When Reid's bill passes, said Wong , "the young people of the DREAM Act movement will go on to accomplish and do great things. ... You will go on to become lawyers, teachers, doctors and members of the U.S. Congress to replace those old white men ... ."

Kent Wong, Director of the "Center of Labor Research and Education" at UCLA See: http://www.labor.ucla.edu/

45 posted on 12/16/2010 6:31:23 PM PST by Aglooka (What's grazing fire?)
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To: OneWingedShark

What I don’t get is why black Americans are “OK” with third world illegals taking jobs that they could have.


46 posted on 12/16/2010 6:32:37 PM PST by boop ("Let's just say they'll be satisfied with LESS"... Ming the Merciless)
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To: MichiganConservative

No, I don’t consider Leftists Americans in any sense other than that is what’s on their passport.

They don’t buy into the creedal or philosophical basis for America. In fact, they’re often actively working to destroy America and all that made it what it was, just like the founder of their anti-human, anti-life belief system intended.


47 posted on 12/16/2010 6:33:14 PM PST by MichiganConservative (Terrorists don't commit genocide. That's what governments do.)
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To: MichiganConservative
mho....The problem in America today is, Who Can Americans Trust? I do not have all the answers. Nobody does. What is disturbing is Americans are still disagreeing with each other, while the enemy is busy and in agreement, America has to go. So what can Americans do, and Who can Americans trust. I do not believe that question can be answered until Americans can trust each other. Americans may not ever be able to trust each other again. So What Will Happen? I do not want to think about it.
48 posted on 12/16/2010 6:41:55 PM PST by no-to-illegals (Please God, Bless and Protect Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: no-to-illegals
now are you thinking of Teddy, the one on Mt. Rushmore

Alrighty then, troll on.

49 posted on 12/16/2010 6:43:36 PM PST by triumphant values (Never criticize that to your right.)
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To: triumphant values

That's because you're a patriot and don't worship at the altar of "The Market". There are some of us who realize a nation needs more than just cheap Ipods to continue to exist.

Exactly

50 posted on 12/16/2010 6:43:51 PM PST by Aglooka (What's grazing fire?)
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