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Calif. regulators OK major greenhouse gas rules (state launching into a "historic adventure")
AP on Yahoo ^ | 12/16/10 | Jason Dearan - ap

Posted on 12/16/2010 7:52:38 PM PST by NormsRevenge

SACRAMENTO, Calif. – California regulators on Thursday approved the first system in the nation to give polluting companies such as utilities and refineries financial incentives to emit fewer greenhouse gases.

The Air Resources Board voted 9-1 to pass the key piece of California's 2006 climate law — called AB32 — with the hope that other states will follow the lead of the world's eighth largest economy. State officials also are discussing plans to link the new system with similar ones under way or being planned in Canada, Europe and Asia.

California is launching into a "historic adventure," said Mary Nichols, chairwoman of the state's air quality board.

"We're inventing this," she said. "There is still going to be quite a bit of action needed before it becomes operational."

California is trying to "fill the vacuum created by the failure of Congress to pass any kind of climate or energy legislation for many years now," said Nichols.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: ab32; arnoldlegacy; california; capandtrade; carb; globalhoax; globalwarming; greenhousegas; ournewrulers; overlords; regulators; swine
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1 posted on 12/16/2010 7:52:41 PM PST by NormsRevenge
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To: steelyourfaith

Ping.


2 posted on 12/16/2010 7:53:35 PM PST by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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Is that aRnold de SchwarzenKennedy I hear cheeering?

Yes, Virginia, Elections do have consequences.


3 posted on 12/16/2010 7:54:08 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed .. Monthly Donor Onboard .. Obama: Epic Fail or Bust!!!)
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To: NormsRevenge

If you want instruction on how to fail as a government, just look to California. California is dead, and the Greenies are nailing down the coffin lid.


4 posted on 12/16/2010 7:55:12 PM PST by popdonnelly (Class warfare is Obama's thing.)
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To: calcowgirl

cough

It’s like a scene out of The Jerk

The new air regs are here The new air regs are here!!


5 posted on 12/16/2010 7:55:29 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed .. Monthly Donor Onboard .. Obama: Epic Fail or Bust!!!)
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To: popdonnelly

I’d give ya 9 to 1 odds on that. ;-) the vote was 9-1


6 posted on 12/16/2010 7:56:47 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed .. Monthly Donor Onboard .. Obama: Epic Fail or Bust!!!)
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To: NormsRevenge

Any state(s) that blows this bs off and encourages industry to come will be the one I’d bank on. Unfortunately it’s not going to be mine (Washington).


7 posted on 12/16/2010 8:00:35 PM PST by Conservateacher
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To: NormsRevenge
Most of the rest of the country WILL NOT follow California- off the side of a cliff. California already has 12.5% unemployment and with the full implementation of AB32 it will go MUCH higher. Californians had the opportunity to stop AB32 with Prop 23 but they were too stupid to pass it. So now unemployment will go higher and the average idiot will wonder what happened.

The problem in California is Californians. Too stupid for self government.
8 posted on 12/16/2010 8:00:57 PM PST by truthguy (Good intentions are not enough.)
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To: NormsRevenge
As California takes those tentative first steps into becoming what it was always meant to be ~ a catch and release fisherman's paradise.

I can see the little sailboats and dories now as they push off from the quaint spalled concrete piers strategically located up and down the once teeming shores.

Off in the distance you can just make out the abandoned Encina power plant tower near the ruins of the abandoned Marie Calendar pie shop.

They say that further up the way Canadian wolves have come all the way down and are making a home underneath the old floor slab at Angelos.

9 posted on 12/16/2010 8:01:33 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: NormsRevenge

Watching the left going merrily about their delusional way is like going down to the park and listening to the “park people” talk to the trees.


10 posted on 12/16/2010 8:02:05 PM PST by noiseman (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Businesses all over the world are fighting to open up shop in California. NOT!

There was a post yesterday about why people are leaving CA. The comments on the original article were almost 100% from people who have left over the past 20 years and never looked back. And are much happier in their new homes and states.

My wife and I are counting the days til we can get out of CA. Now we’ll have to pay lots more for our already-overpriced energy, fight for far fewer available jobs, AND pay higher taxes for a new battalion of regulators to be hired in Sacramento.

The state is on the verge of financial armageddon and probably going into federal receivership. Yet the nincompoops in Sacto still foist this crap on us.

I wonder how far the various states and nation have to fall before we hit rock bottom.


11 posted on 12/16/2010 8:03:58 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: NormsRevenge

We will leave the moment we are able....to damn near anywhere but Kaleephornya.....hell, I’d even consider Russia.


12 posted on 12/16/2010 8:05:04 PM PST by stboz
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To: Army Air Corps

The eighth largest economy in the world is fiscally and morally bankrupt, but too stupid to realize it.

They’ve set an excellent example for other states to follow.

Run away from California.


13 posted on 12/16/2010 8:14:10 PM PST by upchuck (When excerpting please use the entire 300 words we are allowed. No more one or two sentence posts!)
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To: stboz
"We will leave the moment we are able....to damn near anywhere but Kaleephornya....."

Be careful if you're thinking of running here to Colorado. We apparently decided on November 2 to ignore what was happening in the rest of the country and follow California over the cliff. We're in better shape than California at the moment, but many of the same pathologies are alive and well here.

On the other hand, we do have Michelle Malkin now so that's a major plus.

14 posted on 12/16/2010 8:14:56 PM PST by noiseman (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.)
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To: NormsRevenge
The Pale God of Kalifornia is surrounded by his neolithic worshipers after promising to show them the secret of low-carbon fire...


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

15 posted on 12/16/2010 8:16:11 PM PST by The Comedian (Government: Saving people from freedom since time immemorial.)
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To: noiseman
There is far more real, hard scientific evidence that increased atmospheric CO2 concentrations are stimulating crop growth enough to offset the decline in crop growth caused by the current Global COOLING. This high level of CO2 may be preventing world wide famine caused by the recent global cooling
16 posted on 12/16/2010 8:20:13 PM PST by rdcbn
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To: muawiyah
They say that further up the way Canadian wolves have come all the way down and are making a home underneath the old floor slab at Angelos.

Stretch that into a book of post-Apocalyptic poetry, and sign me up for several copies.

Kudos.


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

17 posted on 12/16/2010 8:21:00 PM PST by The Comedian (Government: Saving people from freedom since time immemorial.)
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To: NormsRevenge
I really feel sorry for you people in “The Peoples Republic of California” your so called public servants are about as stupid as they come! Can any of these people walk and do anything at the same time?
Really what is a “Greenhouse Gas”? What is the reason for that term? Could it have something to do with plant life and all vegetation using carbon dioxide to produce “OXEGEN” where does plant life thrive, in a greenhouse! That little but important gas needed to sustain the life of your public servants, this will eventually be used against us here in Wyoming as with everything else that comes out of your state.
18 posted on 12/16/2010 8:23:58 PM PST by CowboyConservative
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To: muawiyah

40 years ago as a Boy Scout I got to camp and hike in the Sierras, in the Redwoods, in the Pinnacles, Yosemite, etc.

Back on the coast we road dirt bikes to our heart’s delight.

I thought California was the coolest place on the planet.

So did a lot of other weirdos. The present condition is the fruit of unmitigated hipness.


19 posted on 12/16/2010 8:38:20 PM PST by One Name
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To: NormsRevenge

I suppose one of the greenhouse gasses is dihydrogen monoxide.


20 posted on 12/16/2010 8:38:22 PM PST by anoldafvet (Bread lines or Assembly lines, your vote, your choice)
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To: CowboyConservative
"Really what is a “Greenhouse Gas”? What is the reason for that term?"

Think for a moment about how the global warming zealots quietly ditched the factually precise term "carbon dioxide" for the more suggestive "carbon". Carbon dioxide, while accurately describing the particular gas in question, is simply not scary-sounding enough. It doesn't sound like a pollutant, which the left would have us believe it is. We are all familiar with it in our daily lives, whether via our own breathing or the bubbles in our soda pop. And we have never witnessed it doing anything nefarious.

The term "carbon" on the other hand elicits images of black soot and sounds much more like a dirty pollutant. Never mind the fact that this image has no connection to the alleged role "carbon" plays in the global warming myth. It is obvious that the left chose to use "carbon" solely because of its propaganda value and not because it in any way accurately describes the gas being referenced.

This, in my mind, is all that anyone needs to know about the global warming debate to conclude that at best the left has a very serious credibility problem on the issue. If the theory is just based upon dispassionate science, then why the need for deception and propaganda?

21 posted on 12/16/2010 8:39:56 PM PST by noiseman (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Does that cough come before or after the gag?

These scum will continue to waste taxpayer money “inventing” “historic adventures” until they’ve killed the goose.


22 posted on 12/16/2010 8:53:31 PM PST by calcowgirl (“Controlling carbon is a bureaucrat’s dream. If you control carbon, you control life” —Lindzen)
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To: NormsRevenge
Is that aRnold de SchwarzenKennedy I hear cheeering?

He counts it as his highest achievement -- his legacy
(along with massive indebtedness to build bikepaths)

Rah, rah, rah! Where's FO to lead the cheers?

23 posted on 12/16/2010 8:54:56 PM PST by calcowgirl (“Controlling carbon is a bureaucrat’s dream. If you control carbon, you control life” —Lindzen)
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To: One Name
The present condition is the fruit of unmitigated hipness.

More like the hip of unmitigated fruitness.

24 posted on 12/16/2010 9:01:47 PM PST by Carry_Okie (The environment is too complex and too important to manage by central planning.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Will the last business to leave California please turn out the lights?


25 posted on 12/16/2010 9:06:13 PM PST by tommythev (No Dick Dale in the R&R HOF? for shame!)
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To: calcowgirl
Rah, rah, rah! Where's FO to lead the cheers?

There's be no joy there. All we'd hear about is how we didn't vote for Prop 76 and killed Arnold's mo... it's the legislature's fault.... the base won't support "electable" Republicans... Conservatives abandoned Carly and Meg... It would be never-ending.

26 posted on 12/16/2010 9:06:33 PM PST by Carry_Okie (The environment is too complex and too important to manage by central planning.)
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To: Carry_Okie

Well there is that, too.

We were an hour south of SF and were fortunately spared.

The sexual revolution had already begun though...


27 posted on 12/16/2010 9:14:45 PM PST by One Name
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To: noiseman
Credibility means nothing to the left wing, they have none to bargain with in the first place. This is nothing more than a money making scam and that alone. The Federal legislation creates a new form of currency called “carbon credits” that will be traded just like the dollar of whats left of it.
28 posted on 12/16/2010 9:30:18 PM PST by CowboyConservative
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To: truthguy

Prop. 23 was killed by saying Big Oil supported it. The Greenies want to pay $500 per month in electricity.

It is a bizarre place, I want OUT.


29 posted on 12/16/2010 9:58:34 PM PST by wac3rd (Somewhere in Hell, Ted Kennedy snickers....)
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To: Army Air Corps; meyer; Normandy; Whenifhow; TenthAmendmentChampion; Clive; scripter; Darnright; ...
Thanx Army Air Corps !

 


Beam me to Planet Gore !

30 posted on 12/17/2010 3:13:16 AM PST by steelyourfaith (ObamaCare Death Panels: a Final Solution to the looming Social Security crisis ?)
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To: NormsRevenge

“The world’s 8th largest economy”

Not for long.


31 posted on 12/17/2010 3:16:03 AM PST by Jim Noble (It's the tyranny, stupid!)
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To: NormsRevenge

Gosh.

This should help attract companies and jobs!

Even more than the grocery bag tax.

Who could possibly resist bringing their company, to such a forward thinking state, where government is so involved and knows best.

(/s)


32 posted on 12/17/2010 3:20:55 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network (McCarthy Was Right)
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To: The Comedian
What's most disturbing is it is so easy to make this stuff up ~ how about the one where the Aurox at the Wild Animal Park finally trampled and gored the last keeper, then broke down one of the gates enabling all the animals to wander off out into the hills to live on tangerines and peacocks.

The lion pride headed straight to LA smelling the spoor of helpless game humans over a hundred miles away.

Alas, this was not post-apocalyptic ~ this was a mere 6 months after the failure of the levees along the Sacramento. Arnold had warned them, but they didn't listen. Oh, he was lost in a tragic waterskiing incident at Lake Meade ~ it was just horrid. Without water in the bottom he backed his boat right over a cliff ~ fell 180 feet!

33 posted on 12/17/2010 5:49:23 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: Jim Noble

Before aRnie and the dems energy re-de-regulation and all this renewable madness,, we were #5 or 6. the unions deserve heaps of coal in their stockings as well.

The SS California steams on into the night, ignoring the dangers of the ice field all around.. tossing carbon credits to appease those niggardly souls in search of wealth and fame,, but instead, only finding infamy and shame.


34 posted on 12/17/2010 9:35:14 AM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed .. Monthly Donor Onboard .. Obama: Epic Fail or Bust!!!)
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To: truthguy
The problem in California is Californians. Too stupid for self government.

Necessary but not sufficient. The other part of the equation is socialist America-haters that want to destroy this country and poured vast amounts of money into the propaganda campaign (e.g. CO2 "pollution" causes asthma)

35 posted on 12/17/2010 5:23:10 PM PST by palmer (Cooperating with Obama = helping him extend the depression and implement socialism.)
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