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Kosovo PM Hashim Thaci's crimes 'known to the West'
The Australian ^ | December 18, 2010 | The Times

Posted on 12/17/2010 6:22:49 AM PST by Ravnagora

WESTERN leaders have been accused of turning a blind eye to murders, drug running and organ trafficking in Kosovo.

The West elevated a man it knew to be a criminal boss to the rank of European statesman.

Although Western intelligence agencies warned that Hashim Thaci ran an organised crime network in the late 1990s, Western political leaders backed his Kosovo Liberation Army, according to a report published by the Council of Europe.

The report, adopted unanimously by the council's 47 member states, will add to pressure for an independent criminal inquiry into Mr Thaci, now Kosovo's Prime Minister. It also places an embarrassing spotlight on the actions of the NATO members who intervened in Kosovo in 1999 as the country engaged in a war of independence with Slobodan Milosevic's Serbia.

Dick Marty, the Swiss senator who was the council's rapporteur for Kosovo, said the global community had shown a lack of determination to investigate the KLA. Without a witness protection scheme, the criminal rulers would never be brought to book, he said.

"What shocked me is that most of the facts illustrated in this report were known to numerous organisations, which until now have remained silent," Mr Marty said at a press conference.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: balkans; kosovo; thaci

1 posted on 12/17/2010 6:22:51 AM PST by Ravnagora
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To: Ravnagora

Sorry but haven´t you just posted the same story (just a slightly different headline) about 30 minutes ago?
Let me guess you are a serb and a little bit “obsessed” with the Kosovo. right?


2 posted on 12/17/2010 6:30:31 AM PST by darkside321
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To: joan; Smartass; zagor-te-nej; Lion in Winter; Honorary Serb; jb6; Incorrigible; DTA; vooch; ...

3 posted on 12/17/2010 6:41:59 AM PST by Ravnagora
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To: darkside321; Ravnagora

Serbs have the RIGHT to be “obsessed” with Kosovo, and all the evil that the mis-leaders of the West, in collusion with muslim savages, have visited upon them!!!!


4 posted on 12/17/2010 7:27:31 AM PST by Honorary Serb (Kosovo is Serbia! Free Srpska! Abolish ICTY!)
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To: Ravnagora; Honorary Serb
My favourite foreign minister - NOT - when asked about organ harvesting. (In French, but the over reaction says a lot, doesn't it?):

Kouchner's scandal in Kosovo, on organ harvesting

5 posted on 12/17/2010 7:50:52 AM PST by ScaniaBoy (Part of the Right Wing Research & Attack Machine)
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To: darkside321; Ravnagora; Honorary Serb
In the 1990's Christian Serbs were the early warning system to what lay in store for the West in the war against Islamic Terror.

But the West chose to align itself with Islamic Terror groups like the KLA and bomb the Serbs in what amounted to a combined 5th Crusade against Orthodox Christians.

Failing to realize how it fully embolden the global Jihadists,the West was attacked on 09-11-01. Ironically from the followers of the religion of "peace" it sought to appease in the Balkans.

Then still failing to fully understand the breadth and determination of the Global Jihad, Western and other democracies are still the Target of a unified Islamic terror assault which has it's roots in the Balkan wars of the 1990's.

6 posted on 12/17/2010 7:52:23 AM PST by gitmogrunt (Islamists Targeting Christians Anywhere and Everywhere.)
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To: Ravnagora; darkside321

Keep posting Rav don’t listen to the post nannies and numbnuts.
Julia Gorin also just posted; “I’m Not Done Talking about Dick Assholbrooke”....ha ha.


7 posted on 12/17/2010 7:52:23 AM PST by iopscusa (El Vaquero. (SC Lowcountry Cowboy))
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To: gitmogrunt

Yeah let me guess the serbs did nothing wrong did they?
You have been bombed for nothing right?
Not that serbia waged war against slowenia, croatia, bosnia.. in only 4 years!


8 posted on 12/17/2010 8:02:18 AM PST by darkside321
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To: darkside321

Everybody waged war against each other in those years. It’s been the same for the last 600 years.


9 posted on 12/17/2010 8:03:25 AM PST by dfwgator (Welcome to the Gator Nation Will Muschamp)
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To: darkside321

http://rpc.senate.gov/releases/1997/iran.htm


10 posted on 12/17/2010 8:06:52 AM PST by gitmogrunt (Smoke this Muzzy Lover.Islamists Targeting Christians Anywhere and Everywhere.)
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To: darkside321

http://thetrumpet.com/index.php?q=558.0.40.0


11 posted on 12/17/2010 8:08:35 AM PST by gitmogrunt (Smoke this Muzzy Lover.Islamists Targeting Christians Anywhere and Everywhere.)
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To: gitmogrunt

You can post me this propaganda for the whole day.
This does not impress me.
No one said that there have been no inocent victims on the serbian side too.
But face it the serbs have not been the saints like you try to picture them.
Because fact is you wouldn´t have been bombed if you wouldn´t have started all these wars (or if you have been located in africa because then no one would have cared this is true also). But when you start to wage your little wars in front of the EU and start to flood our countries with refugess because of that you don´t have to wonder when you get punished. This is how the world is run.
Oh and for your conspiracy about the evil germans (btw. i´m austrian) i guarantee you that nobody would have given a rats ass about yougoslavia (beside some tourists).
So like it or not. This was not revenge for something because of the simple fact NOBODY HERE cared about your country at all.
It was all about stopping you starting your little wars flooding our countries with refugees from this regiion (btw. refugees we are still not done deporting back).
And this is why you lost your teritories.
It´s not that we loved one side more then the other it just sucked to get overun from people of this region because of your “little” wars.


12 posted on 12/17/2010 8:19:24 AM PST by darkside321
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To: Honorary Serb

“...mis-leaders of the West, in collusion with muslim savages...”

The above is a very harsh and blunt assesment of the American Kosovo policy. It is also completely accurate.


13 posted on 12/17/2010 8:20:23 AM PST by Monterrosa-24 (...even more American than a French bikini and a Russian AK-47.)
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To: Ravnagora

Those who knew should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.


14 posted on 12/17/2010 8:33:12 AM PST by bayouranger (The 1st victim of islam is the person who practices the lie.)
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To: darkside321

There will be more stories, darkside321. Lots of the “same story” have been posted here on Free Republic, in different variations and from different sources regarding various topics of the day. Each one contains something worth knowing or considering.

You bet I’m “obsessed” about what happened in Kosovo, and not just a “little bit”.

What happened in Kosovo, on so many levels, was a crime against Serbs.

It hurts when the truth finally gets out and gets the widespread attention it deserves, doesn’t it?

All of us “obsessors” knew the truth a long time ago. Now the world will know.

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15 posted on 12/17/2010 9:09:03 AM PST by Ravnagora
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To: darkside321

You must be a noob on Balkan affairs because your posts are like a bunch of soundbites from the MSM.


16 posted on 12/17/2010 9:11:31 AM PST by montyspython
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To: darkside321
"Not that serbia waged war against slowenia, croatia, bosnia.. in only 4 years!"

This stupid statement alone says all we need to know regarding your knowledge of the subject matter. I'm afraid its not very impressive.

17 posted on 12/17/2010 9:18:01 AM PST by montyspython
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To: montyspython

You must be a noob on Balkan affairs because your posts are like a bunch of soundbites from the MSM.


Ok if you are such an expert then prove me that my statements are totally wrong?
Oh before i forget it did i mention that i was stationed as a soldier (behind my 12,7) in Kosovo “Camp Casablanca” (does this now make me one of those evil occupiers who just hates the serbs?) some years ago? ;-)


18 posted on 12/17/2010 9:22:36 AM PST by darkside321
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To: Ravnagora; darkside321
Darkside321 admitted he's an Austrian and a Veteran, so he seems to be brain-washed and biased regarding Kosovo.

The world knows the Austrian-German-Islamic alliance goes far back.

They are genocidal brothers in arms, and refugee makers going back to the Armenian-Greek Genocide of 1913-1922.

19 posted on 12/17/2010 9:47:28 AM PST by gitmogrunt (Islamists Targeting Christians Anywhere and Everywhere.)
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To: Ravnagora

Keep ‘em coming!!


20 posted on 12/17/2010 10:03:48 AM PST by Dragonfly
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To: gitmogrunt

Wow you guys are funny.
Yeah you got me before the military did send me there we have all been brainwashed 24/7.
Our mission shoot as much serbs as you can.
Steal what you can it´s time for revenge!!!

I mean get real i allready said that nobody (not even the soldiers) gave a rats ass about the kosovo.
As if i would have cared who owns it now?
(and as far as my government goes they are interested in a somehow safe Kosovo for only one reason so Austria can deport the refugees back there! This is all they have interesst send the people BACK and not to occupy it).

So sorry to disturb your daydreams about a German-Austrian-Mulsim?????? conspiration.
But reality is i was in the army my country did send me there. FULL STOP!
My main job was sitting behind “my” 12,7 (cal.50 machine gun) “turret” in an pandur APC to give fire support if needed. This or when we had no roadblock all we did was patroling the area. AGAIN FULL STOP!
This is all i cared (and believe it or not the other soldiers did just have as “much” political interesst in the situation there like me.
I mean get real i was soldier and not a god damn politican.
But ok never let reality get into your way!
Keep predending the serbs have be saints and the BAD BAD EVIL World just picket them for nothing if it helps.
This will not bring you back the kosovo anyway but if it helps you ok...
I mean who cares!
(At least i don´t if its for me you can have it as long as every other (just pleas don´t start to slaughter inocent people again). this has never and will never be important for me)
end of story!
So much for your conspiration theory.
And i guarantee you most people here think the same.
I mean serious most people would not be able to find the Kosovo on a blank map nor do they care. but ok i admit WE ALL want to steal it?????
I mean get real!


21 posted on 12/17/2010 10:26:12 AM PST by darkside321
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To: darkside321

Let’s start here, when did Serbia attack Slovenia? I would really like to know.


22 posted on 12/17/2010 10:42:36 AM PST by montyspython
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To: darkside321

Did I mention I had a few friends there working for the US government as translators and friends who served there as well? All talked about the blatant persecution of Serbs and the deplorable living conditions they were in while NATO bureaucrats ignored them.

We have an FR member here that was in Kosovo prior to the bombing who witnessed the blatant attempts to fabricate conflicts in order to contrive a reason to intervene.

What’s your point?


23 posted on 12/17/2010 10:50:49 AM PST by montyspython
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To: montyspython

Let’s start here, when did Serbia attack Slovenia? I would really like to know.


1991 (called the 10 days war) serbian troops did attack slowenia (they made it till the Austrian border “You know Austria borders slowenia). Bevore they have been “driven” back.
But ok i guess in your oppinion maybe this is a lie too.
I guess Austria deployed 10.000 soldiers (and killed 2 serbian soldiers because they once returned fire when some of their artillery shells started to impact a few meters on “our” side of the border) on the slowenian border just for fun.


24 posted on 12/17/2010 11:05:32 AM PST by darkside321
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To: darkside321
does this now make me one of those evil occupiers who just hates the serbs?) some years ago?

Let's put it this way.
I did seven years during Vietnam. 15 months in country and two 18 month tours off shore & closely involved. Had lots of issues with the "how" but never doubted the "why".
As I've said before in this forum; had I been in the Army when you were in the Army, and when some of my best service friends were involved as civilian contractors, and I'd received orders to where you went, I'd have refused and taken the CM that followed.
It's also pretty clear that you simply don't like Serbs very much. Those "little wars", and centuries of "little wars" in that region, weren't Serbian creations alone, that's why "Balkanization" translates to "an unstable collection of small states".
For practical purposes the Kosovo goat-roping was (a) Muslim versus Christian, (b) Former Nazi allies versus an imperfect state whose people rescued a pot load of downed allied fliers from those same Nazi allies, (c) the public and painful dissolution of an artificially united Yugoslavia, and (d) a "little war" that we, the USA and NATO, had no (bleeping) business getting into.
Your argument sounds more like resentment of non Serbian immigrants than an indictment of the Serbs.

So I guess the proper answer would be "maybe"...but that's up to you and those others who enabled Clinton, Germany, and (although you omitted them) Albania.

25 posted on 12/17/2010 11:22:08 AM PST by norton
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To: norton

You are correct the bombing of serbia was indeed a “European” idea! I never said something different.( btw there exists no regret here for doing this!)
Clinton was against this( at least it was no secret that he wanted the US to stay out)! But the europeans wanted to use nato for the bombing. So clinton was forced to agree on the bombing. This or Nato would have been dismanteled (Not a US interesst).
Just for example the first bombs dropped on Serbia where from spanish (not US) F16.
The bombing of serbia was definitely a war “EUROPE” wanted to be fought. I never said something different.


26 posted on 12/17/2010 11:38:19 AM PST by darkside321
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To: darkside321

Not even close to being correct.

Slovenian militia attacked an unarmed JNA barracks, you know what the JNA is correct? It was all over the news so please pay attention.

Once you figure that one out, why don’t you research who was in charge of the JNA.


27 posted on 12/17/2010 11:41:06 AM PST by montyspython
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To: darkside321
(they made it till the Austrian border “You know Austria borders slowenia)

Unless the Croatians were complicit in this exercise, Serbia attacking Slovenia was impossible. ("You know Serbia does not border Slovenia")

Any other nonsense you wish to produce?

28 posted on 12/17/2010 11:50:22 AM PST by montyspython
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To: darkside321
"Let’s start here, when did Serbia attack Slovenia? I would really like to know."

"1991 (called the 10 days war) serbian troops did attack slowenia (they made it till the Austrian border “You know Austria borders slowenia). Bevore they have been “driven” back. But ok i guess in your oppinion maybe this is a lie too. I guess Austria deployed 10.000 soldiers (and killed 2 serbian soldiers because they once returned fire when some of their artillery shells started to impact a few meters on “our” side of the border) on the slowenian border just for fun"

You don't even seem to know the difference between "a Yugoslav" and "a Serb".

When Slovenia declared independence 6/25/91, the President of Yugoslavia was Sejdo Bajramovic, a Kosovo Roma and immediately after that (6/30/91) it was Stjepan Mesic -- a Croat who later became the Prime Minister & eventually President of Croatia. The Army in 1991 was the JNA -- the Yugoslav National Army -- not some "Army of Serbia".

You just as well may have been shooting at a Croat, Bosnian Muslim, or a Slovene, as you were at "a Serb".

29 posted on 12/17/2010 11:53:49 AM PST by Bokababe (Save Christian Kosovo! http://www.savekosovo.org)
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To: Bokababe

Kind of makes one wonder the state of education in Austria, the underbelly of Germany.


30 posted on 12/17/2010 11:55:57 AM PST by montyspython
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To: Bokababe

Aren’t Austrians and Germans the same thing?


31 posted on 12/17/2010 12:03:34 PM PST by montyspython
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To: darkside321

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2010/10/geert-wilders-speech-in-berlin-yesterday.html


32 posted on 12/17/2010 12:44:50 PM PST by gitmogrunt (Bis Du Eine Dumkoff? Ha--ha--Probst!!Read This from Germany and WACH AUS!!!!!!)
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To: montyspython
Kind of makes one wonder the state of education in Austria, the underbelly of Germany.

Actually I think that it's more like ALL the people south of the Austrian border are simply "those Slavs that we used to rule" -- and "Serbs" have only differentiated themselves from that group by being Austria and Germany's eternal pain in the ass in effecting that rule -- costing them two World Wars.

It never once occurs to them (or even to the rest of the West) that they don't belong in the Balkans. It's not their home or their land. AndDrang Nach Osten will never bring them pride or profit, but rather only cause them more misery.

33 posted on 12/17/2010 12:54:45 PM PST by Bokababe (Save Christian Kosovo! http://www.savekosovo.org)
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To: darkside321; montyspython
Actually, Austrians got to feel a little "Muslim love" recently. They may have to give up yodeling in the vicinity of Muslims or be forced to pay a whopping fine!
34 posted on 12/17/2010 4:20:04 PM PST by Bokababe (Save Christian Kosovo! http://www.savekosovo.org)
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To: Ravnagora; darkside321; Monty Python; Bokababe

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1339150/Helmut-Griese-fined-700-Muslim-neighbours-claim-yodelling-mocks-prayer.html


35 posted on 12/17/2010 6:00:21 PM PST by gitmogrunt (Euro-Political Correctness Run Amuck-Austrian Looses in Court to Muslim-True Story!!!!!!!)
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