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Can Conservatives Win Back the Arts? (American values are coming back into the culture)
National Review ^ | 12/17/2010 | Andrew Klavan

Posted on 12/17/2010 7:49:03 AM PST by SeekAndFind

Despite the Left’s best efforts, conservative and American values are coming back into the culture.

After years of declaiming against the Left’s domination of our culture, I’m startled and delighted to discover that the tide is beginning to turn. My fellow conservatives should take note and lend a hand.

For the last three decades or so, the usual conservative approach to the arts has been threefold: We complain about what’s being produced; we fret about the influence it will have; then we give up with a shrug.

We complain because it seems to us the anti-American Left has made of the arts its private fiefdom. Moviemakers produce film after film decrying the anti-Communist blacklists of the ’50s, all the while blacklisting and slandering conservative filmmakers and their points of view. Critics give prizes and praise to second-rate leftist works — from dreadful tripe such as The Color Purple in the ’80s to the recent slew of soporific and dishonest anti–War on Terror propaganda flicks such as In The Valley of Elah and Green Zone — while ignoring or attacking works with which they disagree. Public funding is available to display desecrated crucifixes as “art,” while art that might be offensive to Muslims — such as the novel Jewel of Medina or the TV satire South Park — is censored with barely a murmur.

We fret because we fear that ignorant people — especially the young — will take leftist art as truth, essentially giving the Left the power to rewrite history and reality in the American mind. Perhaps the next generation will come to believe that Oliver Stone’s absurd but well-made JFK tells the true story of the president’s assasination or that American operatives and soldiers routinely committed the sorts of atrocities depicted in Rendition or Redacted. As former ambassador Joseph Wilson boasted about the contrafactual heroic impression given of him and his wife, Valerie Plame, in the new film Fair Game: “For people who have short memories or don’t read, this is the only way they will remember the period.”

Finally, we shrug and give up because the matter does not seem urgent. Leftist arts may poison people’s minds over time, but jihadists want to kill us right now. Oliver Stone and Michael Moore may make hypocritical millions attacking capitalism, but politicians are dismantling free markets as we speak. And even if the arts are urgent, most of us aren’t artists or critics, so what can we do?

The complain-fret-shrug approach has become so habitual among conservatives that it blinds us to the astonishing change that’s been taking place. Despite the Left’s best efforts, conservative and American values are actually coming back into the culture.

We should ease off on the complaining. For the last few years, movies promoting the Western ideals of self-reliance, morality, and faith have scored at the box office — see The Incredibles (“If everyone is special, that means no one is”), The Blind Side (“Who would have thought we’d have a black son before we knew a Democrat?”), and Toy Story 3 (a takedown of the nanny state). They have also been more innovative and creative — 300, Gran Torino, No Country for Old Men — than the products of the desiccated and outmoded Left. Our best novelist (Tom Wolfe) and two greatest English-speaking playwrights (Tom Stoppard and David Mamet) are now all open about their political conservatism. And new top-notch mainstream TV shows (Justified, Blue Bloods) have arrived to offset the lefty Law and Order and Jon Stewart.

Equally important, an alternative critical infrastructure is starting to grow up in support of conservative culture. John Nolte at Andrew Breitbart’s Big Hollywood website has repeatedly put leftist Hollywood on the defensive by exposing their bias. And even as other newspapers shorten or delete their serious culture pages, the center-right Wall Street Journal has expanded its coverage with an excellent Saturday Review section.

We should stop fretting about the consequences of lefty art, too. The arts, to paraphrase Shakespeare, are the “abstract and brief chronicles of the time.” The conservative shift in their tone shows that the American consciousness has begun to digest the lessons of 9/11: that the Left’s relativistic multiculturalism is a lie; that freedom is better than slavery; and that therefore those systems that support freedom — constitutional democracy, capitalism, and enlightened religion — are better than those that don’t.

Lastly, we should not shrug and give up, because there’s a lot we can do to support and encourage this nascent phenomenon. A conservative community that has set up think tanks to consider governance, law, and economics needs to give thought and support to the culture, as well. Grants, conferences, and awards for artists who know the value of faith, morality, and liberty could counter the present cultural support system that helps almost exclusively the illiberal Left. And rather than allowing the monotonously left-wing PBS and NPR to monopolize highbrow cultural discussion, conservatives need to establish their own outlets to reclaim the elite and intellectual audience the way Fox News has reclaimed the rank and file.

Most of all, the ordinary consumer of culture needs to remember that word-of-mouth for good works that have been ignored or unfairly attacked by lefty critics can provide a powerful and effective counterbalance.

The fight for the culture may not always seem urgent, but it truly is. Arguments are won and lost in hearts and minds long before they’re ever decided at the polls. The arts not only reflect the conscience of the hour, they also shape the conscience of the age.

— Andrew Klavan’s latest novel is The Identity Man.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: arts; conservatives; culture; values

1 posted on 12/17/2010 7:49:07 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Just a few of the communist goals that come into play here.

20. Infiltrate the press. Get control of book-review assignments, editorial writing, policymaking positions.

21. Gain control of key positions in radio, TV, and motion pictures.

22. Continue discrediting American culture by degrading all forms of artistic expression. An American Communist cell was told to “eliminate all good sculpture from parks and buildings, substitute shapeless, awkward and meaningless forms.”

23. Control art critics and directors of art museums. “Our plan is to promote ugliness, repulsive, meaningless art.”

24. Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them “censorship” and a violation of free speech and free press.

25. Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio, and TV.

26. Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as “normal, natural, healthy.”


2 posted on 12/17/2010 7:52:54 AM PST by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: SeekAndFind
“American values are coming back into the culture”

I believe, American WOMEN are key to any cultural changes whether positive or negative.

3 posted on 12/17/2010 7:54:19 AM PST by SMARTY (Conforming to non-conformity is conforming just the same.)
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To: SMARTY

How about the MEN ?


4 posted on 12/17/2010 7:58:02 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SMARTY

Both men and women. Much of what women do is what men want and vice versa. In my great grandmother’s day, few women were looking for a bad boy.


5 posted on 12/17/2010 8:02:34 AM PST by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: SeekAndFind

I’d be happy to see non-politicized arts and film.


6 posted on 12/17/2010 8:04:32 AM PST by Weird Tolkienish Figure
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To: SeekAndFind

I was thinking that, as consumers, women make up a larger group and can successfully boycott anything (MSM, trends, ideas, politicians, etc.) which is incompatible with wholesome family life, schools, children.

Men could do so as well, but I think women would be more effective at it.

Spending decisions in families are usually commanded (at least guided) by women so they would be better ‘cultural dissidents’. In a capitalist system, dollars talk and consumers are powerful.

Also, women in an open society like ours, are free to choose the kind and quality of their domestic arrangements....for example, when to marry, to whom, etc. These are choices almost wholly controlled by women.

It IS possible to resurrect the preference for child rearing WITHIN wedlock, and that would be a giant step forward


7 posted on 12/17/2010 8:08:16 AM PST by SMARTY (Conforming to non-conformity is conforming just the same.)
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To: SeekAndFind

In November 2010, I outed myself...... I declared to the world I am an artist. My days as a working engineer are past. I offered my works in silver for sale.

I have endured years of lefties in classes and forums and galleries. I spent two weeks in a School taking a metals course taught by a tenured San Francisco lesbian come back to her mountain roots.

I endured the presentation of a woman who made he reputation pumping air between two cherry red steel plates welded together. She delivered the presentation at the forge dressed chic ly in all black Carharts and a single string of pearls. She travels the world demonstrating this skill.

I endured the whining of a Fine Arts masters degree resident artist who although a very accomplished woodworker was complaining bitterly because after 4 years of undergraduate fine arts work and two years of Masters study and three years as a resident artist, she was being cast off into the real world. The real world that placed no value at all on her artistic vision of a dialogue between lines and dots drawn with an HB pencil on egg tempra painted door and window frames. She could not find a job and was being kicked out of the school.

On a tour of the glass studios, I heard the department chair ask “ what is the difference between a large Domino’s Pepperoni pizza and a journeyman glass artist? The pizza will feed a family of four”

I am discovering what they all learned..... artists starve


8 posted on 12/17/2010 8:08:51 AM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. N.C. D.E. +12 .....( History is a process, not an event ))
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To: SMARTY

I agree with you. It seems just a few years ago that Dan Quayle was the target of the venom of the left-wing media for suggesting that celebrating single motherhood via “Murphy Brown” was not a good thing for the culture. Now, the very weird Angelina Jolie is so much the ubericon that she can sell the photos of her new babies for $4 and $5 million.

And trailing along behind Angelina and her unorthodox family is Brad Pitt - the man who dumped America’s sweetheart to become a sperm donor and diaper bag carrier.


9 posted on 12/17/2010 8:09:52 AM PST by chickadee
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To: bert

Unless you are pulling my leg, I say you can always go back to being an engineer.

You can still be an artist ( AS A HOBBY ).

Unless like MichaelAngelo, you find a rich patron to subsidize what you do.

:)


10 posted on 12/17/2010 8:12:55 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Keep taxpayer money and government patronage and promotion out of the arts and let the “artists” go where they will.

That is, as long as they do not infringe or intrude on the freedom, the property and the rights of others.


11 posted on 12/17/2010 8:13:25 AM PST by Iron Munro (Those who claim you owe them a living are cannibals seeking to survive by consuming you.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Nothing like a good old flick for American values. Here’s “A Tree Grows In Brooklyn,” part 1 (the rest are there too).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZkBPH2F-UTc


12 posted on 12/17/2010 8:13:42 AM PST by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (Criminals are looting the country in broad daylight.)
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To: bert

Good for you. Glad you came out on the right side.


13 posted on 12/17/2010 8:15:26 AM PST by BenKenobi
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To: SMARTY

You make a wonderful point here - that the right should use its purchasing power to influence the culture. I have been doing this for some time and try to encourage others to do so as well. Don’t go to films that star know GOP hater, George Clooney. Anytime you can see the product for free, go ahead, but don’t help to make people like this richer.

I see ads on TV which offend me - such as the “lame parents” Toyota ad - I won’t buy a Toyota because of it. I won’t buy the products of firms that advertise themselves as “being green”. I don’t disagree with sensible environmental conservatism, but I do disagree with corporations supporting the leftist agenda with their advertising dollars.


14 posted on 12/17/2010 8:15:59 AM PST by chickadee
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To: SeekAndFind

I think the issue is that the anti-war and pro-commie movies are made with the intention of being anti-war or pro-commie. Most movies that reflect American values set out to tell a good story and have the values show up, but I don’t think they set out to make a “pro-America” movie. Has some parallels with the free market.

The line from The Incredibles is cool, but without seeing the movie, I don’t know if it was a “pro-West” movie, or just a superhero movie that has ideals I agree with. However, the quote from the Blind Side is probably a slight at Republicans as one of the overwhelming themes is the family who takes in the black kid is morally better than the family’s “Republican” friends. Also, how can you live in Memphis and not meet a Democrat or a black guy before you turn 40?

I also like the show Justified, but one of the bad guys uses Christianity as a front for bombing and making money. I don’t think we should worry about lib programming, just watch what you like. But just because a movie or song has a line in it that fits with your belief system doesn’t mean the movie reflects your beliefs.


15 posted on 12/17/2010 8:16:53 AM PST by Raider Sam (They're on our left, right, front, and back. They aint gettin away this time!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Hollywood is ***t and so is ALL of TV. They all supported the coup and there is tons of Saudi money sloshing around for Islamification just like what happened in the UK.


16 posted on 12/17/2010 8:18:27 AM PST by Frantzie
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To: SeekAndFind

Your response is emblamatic of the ignorance and philistinism that characterize the conservative movement, and part of the reason that the left has total control of arts and culture.


17 posted on 12/17/2010 8:21:43 AM PST by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: bert
To get brutally Clintonian, I feel your pain.

I, too, had to endure a slew of artistically challenged "teachers" when I attended college, but my field was (and is) the literary arts.

I remember the first day of an advanced poetry writing class. My female professor told everyone to close their eyes, get down on the carpet, and "feel" the earth on their bellies (to get in touch with their inner muse, I guess).

While everyone had their eyes closed, I took that time to quietly grab my notebook and skulk out the door.

I didn't pass the class... lol...

18 posted on 12/17/2010 8:22:35 AM PST by Flycatcher (God speaks to us, through the supernal lightness of birds, in a special type of poetry.)
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To: bert

Not clear from what you wrote if you are an artisan or an artist.


19 posted on 12/17/2010 8:23:17 AM PST by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: SeekAndFind

——you can always go back to being an engineer.-—

At 68, it’ll be tough


20 posted on 12/17/2010 8:24:00 AM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. N.C. D.E. +12 .....( History is a process, not an event ))
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To: chickadee
Yup.. and that is what we all ought to be doing!!

Most of the time we can make a clear and significant point. Withholding dollars IS withholding approval and vice versa!!

If the economy continues as it is (and nothing suggests a quick fix) our dollars will speak even more loudly.

This kind of cultural dissidence should be routine for Conservatives. In America, there is a long laundry list of people, products, politicians, programming, etc. whose continued financial ‘well being’ may be directly, immediately and permanently diminished by this kind of Conservative cultural ‘expression’.

21 posted on 12/17/2010 8:24:06 AM PST by SMARTY (Conforming to non-conformity is conforming just the same.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Don’t count on it. As more and more lives are broken, they pass their misery on to the next generation. The insanity is only going to increase as time goes on. The banality, the hatred, and the ugliness will be reflected in everything. As we stand, almost nothing good remains in our culture.

The only thing that can stop the trend is a rapid and total annihilation of the leftist plague.


22 posted on 12/17/2010 8:25:44 AM PST by Soothesayer (smallpox is not a person)
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To: kabumpo

.....artisan or an artist.....

Both. The artist part is hard. The artisan part has been learned.

Creativity and design from the thin air is for me difficult


23 posted on 12/17/2010 8:26:35 AM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. N.C. D.E. +12 .....( History is a process, not an event ))
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To: SeekAndFind

Defund public art, which shouldn’t be paid for by taxpayer largess anyway, and a lot of the offensive garbage dries up.


24 posted on 12/17/2010 8:27:57 AM PST by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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To: SMARTY

You are absolutely correct women are very influential to their homes and to society in general. We see many examples of this in the bible. Women need stand up to the wrong they see in society. We must educate younger women to truth.


25 posted on 12/17/2010 8:29:09 AM PST by ThisLittleLightofMine
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To: SMARTY

You are absolutely correct women are very influential to their homes and to society in general. We see many examples of this in the bible. Women need stand up to the wrong they see in society. We must educate younger women to truth.


26 posted on 12/17/2010 8:29:14 AM PST by ThisLittleLightofMine
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To: SeekAndFind
Amen, Bro.

The most significant thing Klavan says is what he doesn't say. And that is, taxpayers shouldn't foot the bill for the advancement of the arts whether they be Conservative or Anti-American in nature.

27 posted on 12/17/2010 8:30:27 AM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: chickadee
You make a wonderful point here - that the right should use its purchasing power to influence the culture. I have been doing this for some time and try to encourage others to do so as well. Don’t go to films that star know GOP hater, George Clooney. Anytime you can see the product for free, go ahead, but don’t help to make people like this richer.

What you say is so true. The real problem we have is that we--conservative Americans--are providing the left with the funds to destroy us. God forbid we do without the Elton John CD or taking our kids to see the latest Disney junk.
28 posted on 12/17/2010 8:30:54 AM PST by Antoninus (Fair warning: If Romney's the GOP nominee in 2012, I'm looking for a new party.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Anyone attempting to create classical-style art would be arrested on child porn charges (for depicting the Cherubs) or “hate crime” (for depicting Christianity in public).

Anyone putting a crucifix in a bottle of urine or making a collage out of freshly murdered infants will be hailed as a hero and a visionary.

This is the wave of the future: darkness, cruelty, murder, theft, ugliness, ignorance, and spite

Art cannot stop the wave. The things who make up half the population are not human beings. They are a humanoid viral agent who exist only to consume and destroy. The worst part is that they are capable of breeding humans. The only force that can stop these vermin is death not love.


29 posted on 12/17/2010 8:32:29 AM PST by Soothesayer (smallpox is not a person)
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To: Weird Tolkienish Figure
"I’d be happy to see non-politicized arts and film."

Certainly some examples of artistic expression (in which I include literature, music, visual arts, etc.) are far more politicized than others, but IMHO, they can never be made completely apolitical. In as much as a person's politics, like their religious beliefs, are an expression of their weltanschauung, so too will an (effective) artist's belief system be reflected to some degree in their oeuvre.

30 posted on 12/17/2010 8:37:21 AM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: ThisLittleLightofMine
Young women who are old enough to marry/bear children ought to make better choices for themselves and their children. Did I say ‘better choices’? I mean -they ought to make the VERY BEST choices that are within their power... and in America THAT is a great deal even for women who are NOT wealthy.

It is one thing to settle for less than you deserve FOR YOURSELF... but to voluntarily choose less than the best for your child is selfish and unpardonable. If this means waiting to have a family UNTIL you can support one, then THAT is what you do. That alone would be a step in the right direction.

I am sure I will be attacked here for that statement.

31 posted on 12/17/2010 8:37:35 AM PST by SMARTY (Conforming to non-conformity is conforming just the same.)
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To: SMARTY

Unfortunately, my crusade has fallen mostly on deaf ears. And I have heard conservative talk show hots defend not using dollar power to take back the culture by saying that if they did, then they could never listen to music or go to the movies. Duh.

With the left dominating music and film, throwing our own money at them to help bury us and our beliefs seems like exactly the wrong thing to do. If conservatives are not willing to discomfort themselves in small ways (foregoing some music and films), they surely will not fight in big ways.


32 posted on 12/17/2010 8:40:36 AM PST by chickadee
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To: SeekAndFind

Who knew it Toy Story 3 was about taking down the nanny state. I thought it was about a bunch of toys on another adventure!


33 posted on 12/17/2010 8:45:52 AM PST by carton253 (Ask me about The Stainless Banner - a free e-zine dedicated to the armies of the Confederacy.)
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To: chickadee
Technology makes it possible to enjoy music w/o condoning/supporting Liberal ideas.

Also, we grew up on books and right now I would choose a good book over ANY film.

Children, we know full well, are GREATLY influenced by example. (Don't believe it? Just look at all the negative stuff they pick up WAY too easily from TV-They could pick up POSITIVE stuff just as easily, if it is presented to them). So, if your home example is TV 24/7, then THAT is what the children will demand... and just TRY withholding it from them!!

There are all sorts of ways around subsidizing BS Liberal musicians, actors, Hollywood producers, MSM, etc.

NO ONE has a gun to your head forcing you to ‘consume’ this stuff. NO ONE!!!!

34 posted on 12/17/2010 8:50:12 AM PST by SMARTY (Conforming to non-conformity is conforming just the same.)
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To: Raider Sam

Last movie I saw was ‘Patton’. Have done well without supporting the pit for societies’ low life wrapped in glitter. I have friends that constantly tell me of the great movies they have been watching and yet I can’t detect a bit of enhancement in their lives by making millionaires out of people who enjoy the sleezy world of ‘me’. .


35 posted on 12/17/2010 8:51:01 AM PST by noinfringers2
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To: Raider Sam

Last movie I saw was ‘Patton’. Have done well without supporting the pit for societies’ low life wrapped in glitter. I have friends that constantly tell me of the great movies they have been watching and yet I can’t detect a bit of enhancement in their lives by making millionaires out of people who enjoy the sleezy world of ‘me’. .


36 posted on 12/17/2010 8:51:04 AM PST by noinfringers2
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To: kabumpo

RE: Your response is emblamatic of the ignorance and philistinism that characterize the conservative movement, and part of the reason that the left has total control of arts and culture.


Surely you are not suggesting that government should continue funding the arts are you ?

My response was to suggest that PRIVATE and WEALTHY patrons or citizens who appreciate use their money to fund the arts they appreciate. Read Post #10 again.


37 posted on 12/17/2010 8:54:01 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SMARTY
I believe, American WOMEN are key to any cultural changes whether positive or negative.

That's true for any culture, at any time.

38 posted on 12/17/2010 9:02:15 AM PST by r9etb
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To: noinfringers2

I usually dont go out, I wait until I can get the DVD or blu ray. I just got Inception and I really liked it. I also think they did a good job with Friday Night Lights. And Black Hawk Down is probably the best war movie since before Vietnam. It has some great lines, but at the end, one of the main characters says when he goes home, people ask “why do you do it? You think you’re some kind of hero?” and he doesnt tell them anything, because they can never understand. Its about the men. That is one of the most powerful moments in cinema in my opinion.

Also, I like to get comedies that werent blockbusters like Lone Star State of Mind or Outside Providence because they tend to have better jokes, not just “dude, I go laid” crap. But, for the most part, you probably havent missed much. Im 26 and I enjoy Airplane!, Blazing Saddles, The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance, The Sting, and The Magnificent Seven much more than modern shows. They just had deeper stories back then.


39 posted on 12/17/2010 9:06:10 AM PST by Raider Sam (They're on our left, right, front, and back. They aint gettin away this time!)
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To: bert
I am discovering what they all learned..... artists starve

My son has starved in New York city for years, but now I think that he is on the verge of making it, he has done a show in Miami, and has something regular going on there, and currently is appearing in a documentary on artists, and the articles and interviews in his home of New York city are getting more frequent and closer together.

I am proud of him, proud of his Art degree from Cooper Union, and I am most proud, (although I dare not tell him), that he succumbed to my pressure to pull a hitch in the Army (it is still my private victory that he was combat arms in the 10th Mountain).

40 posted on 12/17/2010 9:10:15 AM PST by ansel12 (Lonnie, little by little the look of the country changes, because of the men we admire.)
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To: r9etb

Absolutely!


41 posted on 12/17/2010 9:15:01 AM PST by SMARTY (Conforming to non-conformity is conforming just the same.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Despite the author's optimism I'm guessing that the answer is basically "no", at least for the fine arts. There has always been an element of "a bas les bourgeois" in the gaggle of paint-spattered wretches who are the artists - it's mostly, I think, a reaction to rejection. Really groundbreaking artists are seldom appreciated in their lifetimes and the rest, like any other human endeavor, are 85% crap.

The popular arts will be driven by the market - that's what makes them "popular" - and, to be perfectly honest, what succeeds tends to validate the feeling mentioned above on the part of artists who rightfully consider their work better than schlock but are not rewarded for it. Government funding in particular is a horrible suppressor of artistic quality, a sort of Godwin's Law - politics in these days of rampant democratic socialism is, after all, popular culture by definition. Government art funding is misdirected by the ignorant and incompetent toward the superficially unusual in the futile hope that there will be a diamond in the dung; if not, the dung will be declared diamondiferous by our betters and we'll just have to pretend we believe it. We've paid for it, after all. Meanwhile the real geniuses starve or learn a trade to support their habit as they always have. I can't state with any authority that it's good or bad, but that's where great art appears to come from.

42 posted on 12/17/2010 9:20:23 AM PST by Billthedrill
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To: SeekAndFind

Andrew is optimistic and has some reason for it. However, can we ask if Hollywood will ever be anything but leftist (it was since the 50s with its screen writers), will the universities be anything else but bastions of modish leftist thinking and indoctrination, will the leftist inheritance from the baby boomers die with the baby boomers or will the boomers spawn new generations of followers, are secularism and atheism (two approved “religions” of the left) making new advances, winning new converts with ad campaigns?

Hard to say. Fiscal conservationism is back but will people still be liberal in their thinking and values in regard to abortion, gay marriage, stem cell, etc.? Will television change its liberalization (and vulgarization) of the public or will the pendulum start to swing the other way? In other words, will Ed Sullivan’s Topo Gigio make a comeback or will it be Team America’s sex puppetry taken to even newer levels of perversity?

Personally, I believe the left will push its views because it believes its at the forefront of culture. It conservatism can stop the left it will have to offer something the public wants.


43 posted on 12/17/2010 9:28:28 AM PST by Blind Eye Jones
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To: Weird Tolkienish Figure

“I’d be happy to see non-politicized arts and film.”

Truth and beauty can still be found, they’re just not as popular as they once were. The left hasn’t burned classical art and literature...yet.


44 posted on 12/17/2010 9:36:18 AM PST by Spok (Obama: clueless, classless, clown.)
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To: bert
It's a cultural thing - art, news, music, literature - lots of it is basically free now. How can one lone musician compete within a meritocracy that moves a few hundred superstars into positions to sell millions of copies of a single album?

Art reproductions and third world crafts are the same. Can one local artist compete? Too many people are becoming disposable and useless in this culture - bodes badly - won't hold in the long run.

45 posted on 12/17/2010 9:44:38 AM PST by GOPJ (Sharpton wants Limbaugh off the air- if you don't hate liberals yet, you're not paying attention.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Representational art is returning in popularity too.


46 posted on 12/17/2010 9:51:34 AM PST by ottbmare (off-the-track Thoroughbred mare)
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To: SeekAndFind

No, I wasnt suggesting that the govt fund the arts. Nothing I have ever said or written in my entire life could ever lend itself to that interpretation. Perhaps you didnt realize how dismissive, condescending and, again, philistine your comment about having art as a hobby was. As well as clueless. Your reference to Michaelangelo was ridiculous. That was more than 500 years sgo, in an entirely different society and culture. Much of his work was sponsored by the pope.


47 posted on 12/17/2010 11:12:16 AM PST by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: SeekAndFind
I'll tell you something...I don't let the queers who have taken over the fashion industry tell me how to dress what's in and what's out...THANK GOD for thrifty shops with decent modest clothing. I simply love the 50’s and shop around in those store for some wonderful vintage clothing! "EVERYTHING OLD IS NEW AGAIN"!!
48 posted on 12/17/2010 12:21:16 PM PST by RoseofTexas
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